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8:07 PM
@rlemon yeah
I can't decide if I'm more or less emotional than I used to be
I used to be the most awkward and shy kid
Now I'm just like fuck it, it doesn't really matter.
 
"man up" gets ingrained at a young age
 
@Waxi /s or no?
 
I miss MoonOwl
 
no, Waxi is openly misogynistic
 
ahhh.. alright
 
8:14 PM
they've been kicked for it a number of times but just don't... stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
...
 
@KendallFrey yeah, that sounds like a bit of anxiety too which is also something i know a lot of my friend's find trouble expressing or talking about
nice thread
 
@Waxi you should stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
8:16 PM
@bitten I do get anxiety and depression sometimes
 
ah, hah, i thought cap was going crazy.
 
@KendallFrey which is okay (it's not nice, but it's okay)
 
Last night I was particularly depressed
 
I get anxiety, not sure if I could call it depression (having seen a manic depressive person)
just sometimes get very anxious
 
as in, so bored that everything I could have been doing was boring.
 
8:18 PM
usually a few beers solves it though
 
I'm depressed because I got beat up in the PHP room and because I'm not happy with my skillset.
 
@Waxi I suspect you don't know what "depressed" is
 
@Waxi pls /s
 
How come my depression is not the same as your depression?
 
@Waxi if you're going to be misogynistic and dismiss mental illness, I'm going to kick you. Last warning.
 
8:19 PM
@ssube nahh gone
there are easier ways to dismiss him, let everyone see his crap
(via flags)
 
@Waxi depression is not the same as shame, sadness, or anger.
 
@waxi That's a good argument! Here's another: When you're constantly belligerent with your children, his self confidence and perception of himself will erode and he'll resent you, want to become a woman at age 7 to fight your grasp on him or he tries to kill himself because he has no self worth and someone on facebook called him a fatty. That's the result of being too tough on them.
See what I did there?
 
@KendallFrey it's a tricky mood to manage, i'm still learning
 
@Zirak he'll be back in a few hours to read that.
 
8:21 PM
he's not gone
just can't reply
 
just kick first next time, please
warning about kicking is only slightly more effective than warning about warning
"I shall taunt you again"
 
@Shog9 fair enough. I've gotten flack for instakicking trolls before, hence the warning.
 
In all seriousness, there's a great write up on depression (the illness) here: hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2013/05/depression-part-two.html it's from the gal who drew the alot monster and the "X all the things" meme.
 
to avoid the "were they really a troll or were you being angry?" followup
 
@rlemon i don't really know but i would say just someone else is affected more strongly than you, that it doesn't belittle your own feelings
 
8:23 PM
@KendallFrey where's all the disgust?
 
@bitten my father was/is manic depressive (tmk there is no 'cure', but you can get meds) and I saw what the dark road looks like, which is probably why I have a hard time seeing mild depression as depression and not just anxiety
but I wouldn't dismiss it in others
 
@rlemon i meant more in yourself
 
yea and I'm totally aware of that (the non dismissal), but anxiety and depression share a lot of the same feelings I think
 
I guess this might be a good time to talk about where I was for the past month or so
 
Jail?
 
8:25 PM
my whole family is super duper bipolar (genetically), which was entertaining. The new meds they're coming out with now are pretty good, apparently
 
In the hospital
 
doing okay (now)?
 
yeah
 
good to hear
 
@Shmiddty self-loathing
 
8:26 PM
I failed to commit suicide
 
:(
well we're all glad you're a failure?
 
*shrug*
 
no jokes, would hate to see you go that way. you getting things sorted now?
 
@rlemon yeah that's true. although i often feel like i have anxities about things (public speaking) which leads to fear/butterflies, and depressive moods are more when i just feel empty
 
@Shmiddty Been there, hope you're okay mate
 
8:29 PM
that's how i'm learning to look at it anyway
@Shmiddty sorry to hear it ^^
 
@Shmiddty It's good that you're getting help now!
 
yea man, we're all here (on hangouts) if you ever wanna chat
or just get hammered and make fun of Perl developers
 
What's your self-upkeep now? Therapy, meds, maybe group therapy, should we shut the fuck up about it?
 
tbh, nothing has really changed
I was already seeing a therapist
I tried to OD
now I'm on different meds
and they gave me a bunch of seizures
 
the question is not tagged jQuery, nor jQuery-UI, this would require the use of two rather bloated libraries. — rlemon 19 secs ago
 
8:31 PM
Yikes
 
@Shmiddty not nice
 
I was in a psych ward for 2 or 3 weeks
the only positive is that I met a cute girl
 
i've never met you buut i wish you all the best for working through it
 
but she's also crazy, so...
 
haha
 
8:32 PM
@Shmiddty maybe the best positive, heh
 
@ssube yeah, classic technique: tie up anyone who knows what to do with bureaucracy, then keep doing what you're doing until there's nothing left to save.
 
they say crazy attracts crazy
 
@Shmiddty my girlfriend's meds are both mood stabilizer and anticonvulsant, so that might be an actual thing
 
Just stop the bleeding first, then make things better.
 
@rlemon LOL
 
8:33 PM
@ssube no, I mean they treated me with ECT
the intentionally induced seizures
 
oh, "they" the doctors not "they" the meds
 
with electricity
yes that
 
@Shmiddty my gf's sister did that to battle her anorexia
she described it as a "brain massage"
 
It's the weirdest thing
 
8:34 PM
did nothing for her eating disorder
 
@Shog9 not sure who's getting tied up, but I'm in
 
did nothing for me, but the dr swears otherwise
 
AFAIK it has mixed results, but the science behind it is that if your brain fires some neurons wrong, then we need to fire the right ones and it'll help reverse some processes. Weird shit.
 
@Zirak run enough current through it once to establish the path, so everything else follows?
 
8:36 PM
it's supposed to trigger healing
 
@Zirak i heard that also, like physiotherapyfor the brain
 
@ssube Maybe? Like if you're wired up just a tad wrong, it tries to wire you a bit differently.
 
I still don't have telekinesis, though.
 
@Shmiddty sue them for malpractice?
 
You can't kill us with your brain?
 
8:37 PM
heh
 
@Zirak depends on how hard you throw
if you freeze it first it works way better
 
@Shmiddty be honest, after the first session you sat down and for a good half hour tried to move shit with your mind?
 
@ssube You'll need a friend to help with that, though
 
because I know that is the first thing I'd do
 
@rlemon who hasn't done that?
electroshock or no
 
8:38 PM
Maybe telekinesis isn't your power, maybe you can predict the future
 
hell, I do that weekly.
 
@rlemon ex-lax is much better at that particular task
 
@Zirak I mean, if I fire a gun, that action was initiated from the brain.
 
But you need some form of catalyst
 
@Zirak I think that's my case
 
8:38 PM
I always try to mind bend things to me before I get up
 
one time I was taking a nap and had a dream about somebody from work, then woke up 2 minutes before they called me
them being attractive was probably unrelated
 
@Shmiddty They say people kill people, not brains. Only floating brains kill people.
 
This is all a simulation anyways
 
I had a dream as a kid that I was telekinetic and to this day I swear to god I could fly down the stairs without getting hurt and move cups with my mind -- dreams and memories are all merging in my old age
 
you're all programs or users
 
8:40 PM
@rlemon Tell that story enough times and your mind will fill the gaps, so for all intensive purposes you actually did float down there
 
omg guise I just edited a mod's post
 
@Zirak -_-
 
Tell your grandkids (or random kids in the part) and you'll be a hero
 
if I go missing, tell the populace
 
@Zirak begins shaking
"all intensive purposes"
 
8:41 PM
@Zirak ohh I know it will.
 
@Zirak nothing in history starts with "random kids in the park" and ends with "be a hero"
 
you know that triggers me
 
my memory of such events is vivid
 
I can move things with my mind. I think about the object moving, then my hands move it.
 
too vivid for a 25 year old dream
 
8:41 PM
-1
A: Is there any way to follow an user?

NealWith a car. Perhaps motor or bicycle?

Too creepy?
 
@KendallFrey Just for you
 
@rlemon maybe it actually happens, at night
 
I'm not that crazy
 
Programmer at day, object mover at night
 
I saw a movie last night about aliens that come in the night. It was pretty good.
 
8:42 PM
@rlemon My oldest memory involves seeing myself in third person. Either it was a dream, or my mind has taken some serious creative liberties.
 
But yeah, Stranger Things was pretty good
 
@KendallFrey i've had that too!
 
it spooked me a few times but wasn't 5*
 
or.. i have that too
@Shmiddty soo good
 
8:42 PM
@ssube phrasing
 
@KendallFrey my legit oldest memory is 95% made up, but I've verified with my mother the underlying situations were real.
 
@KendallFrey I mean, there may well be a porn parody.
 
@KendallFrey my memory is sitting on a chair at the end of a room with 2 policemen standing next to me, but my memory is from looking from the other end of the room
 
@bitten reflection
 
@ssube Porn parody of @rlemon's earliest childhood memory?
3
 
8:44 PM
@rlemon the view is a bit elevated though
 
I'd watch that
 
out-of-body memories are pretty common
@Zirak I... you... uh... noplz
 
rule 34 guise
 
Mine is of a roller coaster, with people screaming around me, and me crying. I stood up on the seat and turned around.
I was like 1 or 2 years old at the time
 
@ssube but we're still special though right?
@KendallFrey that's so young
so has stranger things kicked off the 80s again more so than drive did?
just wondering because the 80s has to come back soon
 
8:45 PM
Is this legal es6: pastebin.com/MbFzME6K ? And will it work okay after transpilation with babel? I am expecting that the function will be "hoisted"
 
@brcolow Did you try it?
 
and hackerman is/was pretty popular so i feel like it's coming
 
And no.
 
@bitten I'm debating whether to watch The Neon Demon this weekend
 
I did try it using babel and then executing the code with chrome
it seemed to work
 
8:46 PM
cause I loved Drive
 
@Zirak earliest childhood memory... uhh.. shit I honestly would have to say it was in like grade 1? I broke my arm
I remember that day very well
 
@bitten if you liked Drive, check out Final Girl
 
similar strong color, minimal dialogue art film
 
earliest childhood memory: my father screaming at my mother. I was in a crib
 
8:46 PM
@rlemon oohh yeeahh tell me all about your broken arm
 
nowhere near as minimal as drive, but
 
@ssube i liked Drive's soundtrack more than drive if i'm honest, but i'll check it out
 
earliest memory was not 100% real, I was 1 years old and we moved to a new house and I remember riding under the picnic table in the back of the pickup truck... apparently I was in the cab not the back, but they did haul the picnic table that way. and I remember the smell when we entered the house (mom said it was bleach)
 
@KendallFrey hey step back Chris, i see you
 
@bitten Why don't you have a seat right over there
 
8:47 PM
I am trying to organize the code in that way...where the default exported function executes other functions, and the default export is at the top of the page for readability (as it is the "main" function)... should I just move the export to the bottom instead?
 
@KendallFrey you set me up!
 
What are you doing here?
 
@brcolow I'd put the other functions in other files, tbh
@KendallFrey Sitting, like you said to.
 
@Zirak we had a game called "slidey jump jump" which involved you running and sliding on the ice on the tarmac then when you hit the edge jumping as far as you can down the big hill (which SHOULD be covered in nice soft snow)
 
The problem with that is I have the transcript of your chat with <name>
 
8:48 PM
well one day I ran and slid and jumped and it wasn't snow I landed on but chunk of ice
 
Why do I know all Chris Hansen's lines
 
@KendallFrey damn good question
either you are chansen or you've spent a lot of time talking to him
 
Okay but if instead of using other files...if I just switch the order..it is okay?
 
@KendallFrey i guess so you know what they are going to say to you when they catch you?
 
@Zirak No, you tell me about the time you got a seatbelt autographed
 
@brcolow it's ok either way, so long as the variable isn't called before it's set
functions are hoisted, assignment is not
 
hi all
 
@brcolow That is fine.
@AbhiAdr lo
 
[ctrl-f javascript] => 0 results except in the sidebar
 
@KendallFrey ...that's a reference I don't remember
 
8:50 PM
@david neat
 
@brcolow either one will work, because the file is fully loaded and initialized before you have a chance to call it.
 
Neal says it is not okay either way? ssube you say it is?
That's what I thought as well...which is why I am asking :)
 
@Zirak It's one of the funniest things I've ever heard, from back in the TeamSpeak days. Someone (I think it was you) was talking about getting a CD autographed, and someone misunderstood and thought you said seatbelt.
 
is there a way to encrypt json string and pass it to server visa versa with php ?
 
I am super new to javascript and even newer to es6...not asking just for asking's sake but to clarify how hoisting works
 
8:52 PM
@AbhiAdr you want to encrypt it with php?
 
@KendallFrey I remember something like that!
YES!
 
@towc that glitch maze thing is amazing
 
You said something like "Yeah I went out to the car and ripped out the seatbelt and carried it back inside for him to autograph"
oh it was glorious
 
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@KendallFrey Have you ever tried to rip out a seatbelt..... lol i don't believe it for a second
 
8:53 PM
@brcolow declarations move all the way up
assignments do not move
 
Zirak isn't normal
 
@HatterisMad This was deadpan sarcasm from Zirak
 
he can rip seatbelts
 
user2620028
@KendallFrey same
 
8:54 PM
@rlemon well no, but he can lick your elbow and get away with it
 
that's because I'm wearing a horse mask and he's mistaking me for someone else
 
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@rlemon I have actually had that happen to me before :(
 
@rlemon encrypt from JavaScript and send it to php server decrypt over there visa versa is it possibl ?
 
btw, I licked @BenjaminGruenbaum some time ago
 
lmao
 
8:54 PM
He didn't notice
 
Did ... nice
 
Hey fellas quick question, Is it possible to attach a timestamp to a sessionsStorage item and have it be deleted if it gets to old? Just a yes or no answer works.
 
nnnnnnice
 
Did you tell him?
 
@Zirak lol
 
8:55 PM
@ErikMcFarland absolutely, you just need to store JSON in the item.
 
@KendallFrey Nope! Not until he sees this message
But by now his elbow's dry
 
It doesn't have TTL built in, but you can easily store {ttl: 30000, start: 12342, value: ...}
 
A job well done
 
then if Date.now() > start + ttl...
 
indeed
 
user2620028
8:56 PM
i wonder what just idle observers in the room this happened in think about you @zirak
 
@david thanks! Do you have eye cancer yet?
 
@AbhiAdr you can attempt client side encryption, but it isn't going to be 100% secure
 
@ssube thank you much appreciated!!
 
@ErikMcFarland just make sure you use epoch time for the start and seconds for the ttl
 
@towc once i hit the 'always at the furtherest point' i had to stop, i have work to do!
 
@HatterisMad "What an impeccable person, I'd name him my sole heir and send my finest pair of swimming goggles his way at once!"
 
user2620028
I am lost
 
@towc you also seem to be building it depth first which means 'furthest' is REALLY far away
 
@Zirak god I love you
 
8:58 PM
@david yup :3
 
@rlemon okey
 
furtherest was better
 
@ssube duly noted! thanks again!
 
Zirak can't be represented
 
@KevinB i got up at 5:30 am don't judge me v.v
 
8:59 PM
@towc like the opposite of god. We can write his name but we can't show his face.
 
What if Zirak was one of us
just a slob like one of us
just a stranger on the bus
trying to make his wayyyy home
 
@ssube How is that the opposite?
That's the opposite of opposite
 
!!afk things and that cucumber
 

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