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12:34 AM
Anyone who can help? I have half an hour left.
 
12:50 AM
@KendallFrey apple computers aren't vulnerable I have heard
 
@William Clearly you don't know anything about how that device works
 
@KendallFrey unless this is different then the one posted the other day apple has prevention built into its hardware
it is irrelevant how the device works
 
What is the other one?
 
give me a sec
 
This device doesn't depend on software at all. If it is connected to a powered USB port, it can fry whatever the port is attached to
 
12:53 AM
 
@William Yep, same concept. I need proof of any claims of being able to handle such a device.
 
it says so in the article
buy one and test it yourself then
 
jesus christ no
zdnet said that the device maker said that Apple "voluntarily" protected its hardware.
 
lol hahaha
 
12:55 AM
That's not proof
 
vs involuntary whatever that means
if mashable is any better of a source mashable.com/2016/08/29/usb-killer-purchase/#h1wYaupTWmqj
@KendallFrey
> USB Killer says that 95% of hardware is vulnerable to this attack, but that does not include Apple.
 
mashable says that USB Killer says...
see where this is going?
 
I'm going to contact USB Killer myself and see what the say justf for you
@KendallFrey
 
William says USB Killer says...
You need to learn scientific skepticism
 
Kendall says William says USB Killer says...
 
1:06 AM
Simon says you need something better to do
 
my parents don't really have anything for me to do
in college
I contacted the USB Killer people for you hope you are happy
 
Okay so this may be the wrong place for this question but if I have an ajax application that works in a page as a new feed with new content added and I want to add a page view to my google tracker everytime the application gets updates is that possible using analytics.js?
 
If you don't decide what to do, you'll never get anywhere in life.
 
@KendallFrey I'm not really smart enough to do much of anything
> NO SALE TO MINORS
Our products are specialised test devices that generate high voltage. They are not toys, and are not available to users under 18 years of age (or applicable legal age based on the customer's geographical location)
 
I might open a question but I thought someone might be able to just tell me if it's possible
 
1:10 AM
@lix so you want to know when you updated the site yoursef.
 
@William no I'm looking to send off a virtual pageview to a google analytics tracker when ajax goes to the server for new information
 
hmm use a #hashid is the best idea
 
All my research around SPA showed that you could do it when the URL changes but my application doesn't modify the URL at any point
 
@lix then it needs to
I don't think there is a way around that issue
 
Ohh so essentially append "#foo"
and it'll count a pageview to that url
 
1:13 AM
@lix or unique tokens yeah
 
Would that log page views to the page tracker or create lots of separate urls with separate pageviews?
 
@lix you can tell analytics to record a virtual page: mjau-mjau.com/blog/ajax-universal-analytics
William doesn't know what he's talking about.
 
I'm just telling him a way that works
 
You should be upating your url, but for a different reason. Usability.
 
and a way I have done it
 
1:15 AM
You don't use # anymore.
 
we have html5 history api, or polyfills that translate to # for you.
 
@William google does a LOT of things others should not
 
for a "standard" google doesn't even follow
 
they serve a ridiculous amount of users
 
1:16 AM
google must have a good reason
 
Like eat babies.
google uses proper urls most places, so this is just one high-profile counter-example
 
So if I added virtual pageviews for the same url using ga send it would keep accepting them?
 
like the cloud console, all html5 history.
 
the entire "google search does this" argument is lost unless you are in the position to serve billions of requests and face the challenges and unique problems they do
 
@lix or a made-up url if you need to track the different updates.
(or maybe it has another way to do that. I don't know GA)
 
1:18 AM
I guarantee lix's site is the next google
 
Google has excellent documentation, btw: developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection/… analytics.js Event tracking
 
@Luggage Cool, It's mostly for marketing metrics as sadly the lovely ajax application I'm making would mean users arent refreshing bumping the numbers up
@William no need to be so hostile, I appreciate you adding to the answer.
 
we are just havin gfun
 
;-)
Is there a way to like upvote or something In chat
I feel like this has been more productive than posting a question lmao
 
usually is
 
1:23 AM
star it but you can't star your own psots
 
no need to star to say ty. it just clogs the sidebar.
 
Ahh my bad :/
 
to say thanks send $5 to Luggage@inter.net
 
Is that a real email?
 
1:25 AM
how do you email money
 
no
ever heard of paypal?
 
sending fivedollar.png right over boys
 
@William put it in the cdrom
no coins
 
fuck my computer doesn't have a cdrom
 
also bitcoin.
 
1:25 AM
Is it back compatible to floppy drive @rlemon
 
not the new bills
 
You can try. The rule is, if it fits in the slot, it's compatible.
 
we also have interact e-transfer
costs $1, but you can literally email money
 
does it accept $2 bills then?
most vending machines don't
 
who's getting rid of $2 bills?
 
1:27 AM
See this is where the British monetary system is superior
 
bartering chickens?
 
@lix tea is not a monetary system
2
 
hahaha
and pattys are @rlemon
 
fucking finally
I found some free software that can create what I need
thanks so much for your help @rlemon
 
what software
 
1:29 AM
cool, I helped :D
 
@rlemon Yeah, a lot
 
That app and website need some updating.
 
looks complicated but have fun
 
I've tried about 5 different freeware apps and none of them were decent
 
yeah the older the site the more cool the software
 
1:30 AM
@Luggage it fucking works, that's all I care about
 
yea, just talking about appearance. I'm allowed to be shallow.
 
where the fuck is chinese.stackexchange.com
 
I should send them an email asking if they'd like me to update there website for $20
 
I can play spectrograms directly on my LED strip, I wonder what that looks like
 
1:31 AM
something is wrong with my internet it must have went out for a sec
 
Well, I crashed it
 
sounds like a game of KSP
 
Only you
and people with too many mods
 
I'm talking about the ships
 
1:38 AM
Guys and Girls i hope you dont mind a simple question
 
we prefer them
 
I have been thinking about this for a long time now , and asking
Do i need a college degree to have a programming job?
 
no
 
I have a programming job, and no college degree
 
1:40 AM
same
 
Oh , well i am a C++ Dev , more in the low development area
 
I was offered a full-time programming job before I graduated high school
 
But i guess i can do JS
 
doesn't matter
 
@KendallFrey Really?
 
1:40 AM
Yes
I suppose I'm lucky
 
Can you explain me how i can do that?
 
@KendallFrey uhh same, but it was for shit pay
 
How i can show my skills at this stage of me?
 
like $8/hr
but that was > minimum wage at the time so...
 
@Dsafds You need to find programming and learning fun. Fun enough to do when you're not getting paid. Fun enough to do it instead of sleeping, sometimes.
@rlemon same
 
1:41 AM
for a lot of programming jobs it's more about who you know when your trying to get your foot in the door
 
I still don't get paid much
 
I make enough
 
@KendallFrey I do it for fun.. I have worked on many projects. some of them posted in github github.com/amanuel2
 
That's an excellent start
 
My Love For Programming Is Priceless
 
1:42 AM
Start looking for jobs you can apply to
 
I wrote a small utility to fix a customer's access database while working a phone support job, and was then offered a position in programming as a noob.
 
@KendallFrey Well , as of right now
 
as someone that used to do hiring, some open source involvement to look at could get someone with 0 years paid experience to be considered.
as long as some corporate hr jerk doesn't throw the resume away
 
yeah but rlemon and kendall are smart cookies
 
@Luggage what about involvement in private personal projects not that big (~100k lines)
or is it all about open source stuff?
 
1:46 AM
yea, especially if the source is available
ohh, private.
 
yeah
this summer I coded my own cms
 
It's meaningful experience as far as being able to do things, but as far a resume, you got none.
 
what if I sold the software?
 
well, then, of course
 
This is going to sound a little crazy
 
1:48 AM
@KendallFrey I am more of a AngularJS Programmer , as you can see One of the projects i have done in Javascript ng-forum , and Os Dev Learner
 
but the software I wrote has been used by a fairly big website
 
But My Projects as of now arent really professional . Thats what i am aiming to do now
 
We worship the one true view, React, around here.
 
@lix That'd look good on your resume
 
@William I'm not smart, I just really really want to know more things.
 
1:48 AM
I'm not sure how I would even explain it to an employer without sounding like some generic student
 
@Dsafds but they're so fucking cool :D
 
method.gg
 
i think i flagged your post by accident sorry
 
My summers work :o
 
@littlepootis Yeah the reason i said that is someone telling my I program like a child lol here : workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/76068/…
Like i said my programs arent really readble now , i am just improving my skills not trying to get any collaborators
 
1:50 AM
> you program like a 15-year old
 
But i 100% Have the ability to write 100% Readble code .. Its just that i am more concerned on learning as of now
 
Thank you, captain obvious
 
I code at a 10th grade level.
I comment at a third grade level.
 
After i learn about Operating Systems In More Depth Right now working on floppy disk controllers , I will start producing Pure Authentic Readble Code
@Luggage Do you have a job , if i may ask?
 
floppy disk controllers? did I miss something or are you from the past?
 
1:53 AM
They're easy, probably
 
do the floppy disk controllers accept coins and cash?
 
@Dsafds I do contracting at the moment, and have for about 2 years
 
Really noob question, but I've been looking to use some sort of database, but I'm not sure how they work. I've looked at PostgreSQL, but I have multiple questions; where are they hosted? Can I use my hosting package? And where do MongoDB databases exist? Thanks, and apologies for my ignorance
 
Guys i have learned writing ATA Drivers which are similar to Floppy Disk Controllers because they both have volatile memory
 
except for a few months where I took a normal job, then hated it and left
 
1:54 AM
@Luggage You are in Maryland to ?! :D
 
Alright, my neopixels need to come quickly
hnnnnngh
 
I am in MD...
 
@lix Programming Something Modern is actually preety hard , ill have to start from the bottom and then ill work my self up to be right in this era
 
Actually it's easier if you start with what we have now
 
@KendallFrey no
 
1:56 AM
@Dsafds first real c programming I ever did was on mbed boards, so I feel you.
 
meh. you don't have to go in chronological order, but all experience is helpful
 
@KendallFrey "Hell no"
 
hell... yes?
 
@lix Wow Awesome ! :D
 
hell affirmative
 
1:57 AM
@KendallFrey notnreally. It's not worth it, no. Unless you're working for realz
 
learning floppy controllers seems humorously useless. They are never gonna come back into style.
 
Well, they will, but only ironically, slightly, and briefly.
 
@Luggage it's tens of times easier than working with the other devices. If your emukator can emulate one, and you're just learning, why bother with something like a USB controller?
 
I bought a notebook for work that my son clearly doesn't respect. https://t.co/BGNU4YfZNK
 
why bother with the one type of controller you'll encounter in the wild?
 
1:59 AM
This kid is GOING PLACES
 
@Luggage wut? But he's juat.. learning..
He will probably implement one later on.
 
4 mins ago, by Luggage
meh. you don't have to go in chronological order, but all experience is helpful
 
@Luggage Its for knowledge. I have to start from the bottom
 
All experience is also impossible in a domain like OS development
 
any experience
 
2:01 AM
Its not good to start from the Top. OS Development varies from Javascript Development
 
true that they are different, but not true that you must learn close-to-the-cpu before high-level
 
Step 1: Learn things that are helpful right now.
Step 2: Learn things that will be useful in the near future.
Step 3: Learn things that won't be useful but will improve your problem solving, critical thinking, and understanding of things that are useful to you.
 
@KendallFrey Im going places?
 
but I'm not saying you should learn what I think you should.. just that it's not a strict order.
 
@Dsafds I meant the artist from the tweet
 
2:03 AM
@KendallFrey That's.. not always true.
 
How can it not be true? It's a simple list of priorities.
 
@littlepootis Educate me
 
Let me put it this way: Learning things that are actually relevant today is so fucking hard
 
maybe for you
 
@littlepootis In what way? I learn useful things all the time.
 
2:04 AM
you mean like convolutional neural networks or angular 2.0?
 
@KendallFrey And Going through my point of view , you should learn the past controllers , drivers , and such . . . to Go and learn about the more modern ones
 
So, you choose something easier, something that lets you focus on the task, and not on the nuances of architecture or device
 
@littlepootis Exactly
 
Just learn what you enjoy and/or need for now.
even if it's floppy contorllers.
 
Learning JavaScript is a whole heck of a lot easier than learning OS development.
 
2:05 AM
the experience over time is the real value
 
Source: I've learned a bit of both
OS dev is a lot of fun though
 
hey guys, any ideas why this is always black?
window.getComputedStyle(document.querySelector('h1'))['background-color']
 
make a bare-metal node/v8.
 
@Luggage Time honestly is priceless . As you go on , you get more and more experience .
 
@SuperUberDuper because once an element goes black, it never goes back
2
 
2:07 AM
@SuperUberDuper Is querySelector actually finding an element?
 
yeah
i have no black style on the h1
 
use the Elements tab in chrome dev console to see where it's coming from.
 
try it)
 
oh, it's not black, it's black transparent
"rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)"
 
ohh, on this page?
 
2:10 AM
@david dammit that got me
 
on any page probably
 
*most pages
 
oh yeah it's targeting the h1, for some reason i thought it was targeting the viewport
i sit in my seat corrected
 
Oh i thought it said you dont have the potential to be a good coder
 
2:42 AM
hey guys, do you know how I can find GPS coordinates based on a city name without hitting an external API ? thanks
 
@user3382714 you need a database
 
is there no existing module ?
 
Even if there is, you need a database
whether that's a database contained inside another library, a database in your code, or a database on disk
The information has to come from somewhere
 
or a really impressive way of hashing the city name
 
like a trie ? ;)
 
2:48 AM
@david You still need a large amount of data
If your hash algorithm doesn't use a large external resource, it will itself be a large algorithm
 
yep I got it from here
it's 300mb uncompressed. thanks guys
 
3:06 AM
I'm bored so I made elon tusk
user image
4
 
Wes
ahaha
 
I say we should trade blows!
 
@rlemon redd it
 
3:33 AM
 
4:11 AM
Hello
 
5:03 AM
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Q: Slider display only current active

Pure Rhymer Organization (I put this image so that I can elaborate my question) I have this slider this is my script var q = jQuery(".slides .flex-active-slide"); var e = jQuery(q).next("li").find("img").attr("src"); var y = jQuery(q).last().find("img").attr("src"); if(jQuery(q).first()){ jQuery(".prev-thumb")...

help pls
 
@PureRhymerOrganization Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
5:22 AM
@Mr_Green ping

Sorry, it seems that my mail server is not responding. Please try again later! on http://www.uxrim.com/contact/
 
@SagarNaliyapara yeah I haven't implemented backend part
github doesn't provide that
there are some api's but they asking for credit info
 
how can i contact you through email?
 
@feedmeaddiction - twitter
I will implement that mail part soon
thanks for reminding me :)
 
6:22 AM
What is electron-download? How does it work?
I still cant install electron normally via npm so I'm looking for other options
 
have you checked nw.js? "They" say it is better
never used electron or nw.js though
 
Yeah I checked it , but it doesnt have a major version
And issues take longer to resolve
 
6:42 AM
greetings, programs! :)
and good morning
if anyone is bored, feel free to grill me on stackoverflow.com/questions/39510407/… i'll just be over here bashing my head against the wall >.<
 
anyone worked with XMPP and strophe JS ?
 
user3119231
6:58 AM
good morning from Germany! (08:58)
 
good morning from Cologne :)
 
and good morning from Copenhagen, Denmark! :)
 
Morning from Zagreb!
Any investors(gamblers) here?
 
i'm all tapped out with a recent investment in a cycling project. sorry!
 
user3119231
@Paran0a Please just ask your question, don't ask to ask.
 
user3119231
7:06 AM
Btw is there a way to force an answer to be marked as? I mean, it cannot be, that I answer questions and most of them don't have an answer...
 
who would be qualified to say that a answer fit´s for the guy who ask´s
 
user3119231
because he commented with "works, thank you soo much xoxo"
 
ah ok
 
Even got a kiss , why complain
 
hate this guys
would someone like the feature to create surveys in chatrooms? Thought about this yesterday and in some situation it could be fun
 
user3119231
 
user3119231
We can have surveys - Someone asks something, you star it, then everyone responds
 
hey guys, it is possible to optimize a little bit my jQuery code by writing those actions only on one click event ?
for example these are my functions
$('.uiDialogElem').click(function(){
$(".clemCont").dialog("open");
});
$(".ui-dialog").on("click",".elem",function() {
$('.elemCont').dialog( "close" );
current.text($(this).text());
});
$(".element").on("click",".other_element",function() {
//do the actions here
});
so instead of adding 3 times that click even to write in only one function
 
@Maurize this is why i mostly don´t answer Q for guys under 100rep
yeah but this is no real survey ;)
but i give u an upvote
:P
 
VOTE MANIPULATION
CALLING FBI
 
nooo is my last working day, tomorrow i´m in ibiza
call next week
don´t want to chill there in handcuffs
girls don´t like, or do they? * I´m a bad boy*
 
7:23 AM
SPYHARD
@elsololobo good thing I have 102 rep! :D
 
haha
 
but you still do not answer my SO questions! :P
 
and i know you so i would kick you in your ass if you don´t accept my answer :P
 
gotta give me answers first :P
 
not my topic bud ;)
 
7:28 AM
aww.. I see how it is...
hangout in a JS chat and not answer JS questions ... tsk tsk... i'm with @Paran0a CALLING FBI FOR IMPERSONATING A DEVELOPER
 
<3
i´m a wolf what did you expect
 
downtrodden on the mice community!
 
hrm we'd better stop here or people think the chat was taken over by Furries >.<
 
haha :)
and i have to work, stop distracting me!
 
7:34 AM
i am currently still bashing my head against the wall regarding Babel transpiling to ES5... it's EVIL
 
user3119231
@elsololobo ...
 
yeah for a minute i forgot my principles, but can´t be undo anymore :/
hope you can live with it
 
7:49 AM
GM INDIA.
 
@Cerbrus it seems you have no tolerance for seeing one human being being kind and mindful of the state of mind of another. And that is where is begins and ends. — Yvette 27 mins ago
She's getting on my nerves.
 
8:08 AM
give her flowers and call it a day
 
@Cerbrus Why would you even post in a comment thread after it has accumulated thousands of comments already?
Like, what kind of communication do you expect? :P
 
8:23 AM
@thefourtheye wow dude github.com/nodejs/node/issues/8558
 
user3119231
my coworker just asked, why I don't simply use a framework/library for my project... I don't know what to say.
 
ugh,.
 
@Maurize If you don't know the answer to that question, then maybe you should use a framework/library
I heard jQuery is good
 
user3119231
Very funny. I sent him the link to vanilla-js.com
 
vanillajs is a joke, you should have better arguments than that if someone asks you why you don't use publicly available, free, tested, proven code
 
user3119231
8:37 AM
You don't say
 
user3119231
Is clearer.
 
Except for the jQuery part
 
user3119231
It's about the operations/second - Is an important part for the project.
 
So you should have told him that the libraries you evaluated did not meet your performance expectations, so you implemented more performant code yourself
 
user3119231
8:39 AM
I don't need to tell him because it's my project. He only asked (more like a joke)
 
user3119231
I won't use jquery. I won't, I won't. I would rather quit my job.
 
I just downlaoded electron from github.com/electron/electron/releases , so how do I use it now?T_T
 
I mean , what do I actually do with this folder now? I unpached the zip and what now ,
 
Build it.
 
8:55 AM
@Paran0a why not just use npm to manage it?
 
I cant install electron via npm, I have no idea why
 
@Paran0a what happens when you run npm install electron?
or what does it say?
 
I've tried pretty much every solution that I could find
 
@bitten electron-prebuilt
 
@BenFortune yep, my bad ^^
 
8:58 AM
Downloading electron-v1.4.0-win32-x64.zip
Error: read ECONNRESET
 
"It is too late to edit this message" :(
@Paran0a i was wrong, the package name is electron-prebuilt
 
It was named prebuilt
but they got the rights for the name "electron"
as far as I know
 

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