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2:01 PM
@SterlingArcher @VeronicaDeane reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/4oahp0/so_close_yet_so_far_nsfw/… woa! dudes from my city. Don't often see Reddit content about Kitchener
 
Can't click, nsfw
 
he's doing atlas stones, big rock falls on his chest. only suffered 'scratches and bruises'
walked away
 
I didn't see the 'walked away' part
 
@BenFortune lemme grab my tmux conf and I'll gist it
 
2:08 PM
@SomeKittens That was my issue, lol. Thanks for following up, the Mediacom T2 department called me yesterday, but I haven't gotten around to calling them back, I'm gonna do so tonight.
 
@ssube Much <3
@rlemon fuck that made me cringe
 
@jAndy the videos always end too soon
yea even with a tag, idk if that is appropriate
:/
 
@Luggage nice!
 
@rlemon The cake is a lie?
I made the boo boo go away.
 
user6225166
2:11 PM
who have used chorme dev tool for js
 
user6225166
?
 
@GNACBetombo Literally everyone in here
 
user6225166
i have seen a guy usine IE8 for debuggin js. i was astonished
 
@GNACBetombo how come? some clients still need ie8 support ^^
 
@ssube Thanks man
 
2:17 PM
@bitten drop those clients.
A few people still think the earth is flat, too.
 
youtube.com/watch?v=aaGX4JdtQi8 8/10 better than the original
 
@BenFortune that's what it ends up like
 
@Luggage There's plenty of corporate companies that use IE 8 still.
 
you can tear the terminals off into a tab <3
I just have Atom fullscreen on one monitor now
 
@Luggage mainly government
 
2:20 PM
@Megaplex They shouldn't.
 
@ssube is that Windows?
 
and large companies
 
@ssube That looks so good
 
@BenFortune use set -g mouse on; this will let you use the mouse wheel to scroll history (bit of a PITA with the keys)
 
@littlepootis it all works on windows, but that's centos
if you have git bash, terminal-plus will use that
 
2:20 PM
All I am saying is that IE8 is bad, old, there are legit reasons to avoid it and as long as I have the power to choose where I work, I prefer to work with newer tech. Less stress, better for my career, etc.
 
MS dropped support for pre-Edge browsers this January
 
@FilipDupanović once you've replaced c-b, everything is better
 
I am reasonable enough to support IE9. It's WAY better than 8. Even 9 is old, but not as unreasonable.
 
brackets aren't too far from the hjkl rh-home, so c-a [ for history is not bad
 
2:22 PM
@Luggage Well, one of our clients is a fortune 10 company, and guess what? They use IE 8.
 
@ssube yeah, I'm on c-b so it's like 3 keys just to enter scrolling mode
 
They should be able to upgrade if they are so rich
@Megaplex ie8 is old enough they should be scrambling to update any software holding them back. IF upgrading is painful this year it'll be more so next year.
 
@FilipDupanović you should look at the conf in my gist. It's partially from a blog post I found, but edited to make all the shortcuts waaaaay better.
 
@Luggage The problem isn't money. It's their IT department is god awful, and makes any sort of setup a pain in the ass.
 
Maybe no one has the balls to call them on their bullshit.
"Listen.. we gotta talk. Everyone is laughing at you for being in IE8.."
 
2:24 PM
If MS doesn't support them, why should we?
 
Have an IE8ntervention.
 
@BenFortune that's our policy
 
I think MS still supports IE 11, right?
ie11 is 'fine'.
 
@Luggage Every time I've been in a meeting they're involved in I've mentioned that they need to update....everything. Hell, it took me six months to get an access point installed there for our unit to talk to because they wouldn't let it directly access their wifi.
Spoiler, several engineers there already have units accessing their wifi directly.
 
> <json:string name="state">NY</json:string>
 
2:27 PM
@Megaplex Where there's policy, there will be violations.
 
IT doesn't follow rules for normies.
 
@SterlingArcher LOL:
 
that's super true
we (ops) have a second VPN in case the main one is down that nobody else gets to use
 
@ssube When I was at tech school we set up a private WoW server so that the instructors and handful of the students who got done with their assignments ahead of time could play. Then the support guys found out and threw a fit, so we had to "take it down".
 
2:36 PM
@Megaplex university IT support; you were probably the first distraction other than porn that they had for ages, except for that other time when a student was caught watching porn on laboratory computers
 
how do i get regex if i have string like this "<span class="listing_item_basic_price">0,1352 €</span>" and i need only 0.1352 ?
 
@FilipDupanović Tech school is what they call your job training in the Air Force. Not university.
 
so how can i do it ?
 
2:38 PM
@SterlingArcher hahah
 
user6225166
is atom good as note pad?
 
it's a little bit better than notepad.
 
awe
i use notepad++ its gr8 and also nice cmnds
 
@Luggage lol
 
@GNACBetombo it is at least as good as notepad
you could even argue that it's better
 
2:40 PM
simple math problem because my brain isnt working...
 
@Phoenix You should start by stop vamping. You're asking questions that we've partially answered once already, or you could easily google.
@Loktar 42
 
to calculate a percent, lets say the total is 147, and I want to know the % of 1
so it would be 1/147 * 100 right?
 
@Loktar You own Valve, you can afford whatever it is
 
@Loktar Yep
 
or is the *100 not needed?
 
2:40 PM
@Loktar yeah it's needed
 
ok that's what I thought..
 
so you want to find out which percent 1 represents?
 
but they wanted to write me a bug
 
@Loktar The *100 gives you the actual %.
 
saying it should be 0.006
and that should be rounded down to 0
but I'm like no... its 0.6 and rounded to 1
 
2:41 PM
that's not a percentage then
 
well if it's in decimal then you wouldn't need to * 100
 
you usually don't *100
only if you want to display as a %
if you want to math, don't
 
yeah that's what I'm doing, displayign as a %
 
but often your output is in readable format, so * 100
 
it's for a chart
 
2:42 PM
@Loktar then yeah, go forth and * 100
>tfw helping someone with math
 
ty :)
 
you can also x / 1.47
 
np, if you got a bit more advanced i may have to pass it over, heh
 
lol
 
it's too early for math
 
2:43 PM
idk I was just second guessing myself with this bug
 
I suggest you use jQuery
 
@bitten "go forth" reminded me of this:
 
lol
 
@VeronicaDeane hahaha
 
I'd rather have the toaster.
 
2:43 PM
does @VeronicaDeane have anything to do with @SterlingArcher or...?
 
@ssube yeah this, but if you want it to be readable as a programmer than maybe * 100 is best
 
Who wants to live forever?
!!afk standup
 
@towc He saved me from those clowns
 
@towc It's Kendall.
 
oh -_-
right
 
2:44 PM
Also, I want to know, how does "well" get 7 stars?
 
thanks @Luggage
 
user6225166
@ssube seyously i think i'll swap to it. XD if it is good as you said
 
@VeronicaDeane you jelly?
 
of... what?
 
of the 7 stars on one word
 
2:45 PM
who would I be jealous of...?
 
u k u wanem
 
@GNACBetombo it's much better than notepad (of any flavor)
 
@ssube even strawberry?
 
you could argue for days if vim, atom, sublime, vscode, etc are better than each other
 
tabs > spaces
 
2:46 PM
but they all beat the hell out of notepad, npp, emacs, IDEA, *storm, netbeans, and that lot
 
dreamweaver
 
frontpage
 
eclipse
 
codA
 
doesn't photoshop output html now too
 
2:47 PM
MSWord "Save as HTML Document"
 
technically, it did since slices
 
notepad
 
if notepad retained indentation it would be pretty decent actually
 
No it wouldn't.
 
At my old job my sister had to use photoshop to update an address for something. I gave her a hard time about that.
 
2:48 PM
it only has 1-step undo, which is kind of brutal
 
notepad can't handle plain newlines, even.
 
@Luggage no weight, simple, to the point. MUCH better than the joke list we just produced
 
@rlemon wordpad would be a better choice to build on
 
@FilipDupanović I'd rather type bash escape sequences than RTF ones
 
wordpad isn't even a text editor
 
2:50 PM
oh save as unicode text and set the font to courier and enjoy the buffer
 
aaaand it's gone. Your code, it's gone.
the only good editor windows ships with is the DOS prompt one
 
@FilipDupanović How to get killed by your colleagues for Dummies
 
@littlepootis the death ray will be deflected by an Atom plugin as soon as it recovers from accidentally previewing a 2 MB file
 
Even though you can just install a better editor, notepad really should be better.
 
@FilipDupanović that will take about 2 seconds
 
2:53 PM
just a few mininal features.
 
user6225166
why note pad ++ and not atom
 
atom is decent at loading big files. Not as good as less, but still pretty good.
 
user6225166
?
 
@GNACBetombo npp has been around a lot longer and some people are still living in 2002
 
notepad++ and atom are both workable. I use atom, but notepad++ is a solid general purpose text editor.
 
2:54 PM
@rlemon indentation + \n
 
My friend uses this as a Notepad replacement.
 
@littlepootis heh, I think I used that briefly when I was a kid and screwing around with replacing parts of windows
I had that custom theme and start button and replaced notepad and explorer
 
geany.org is fantastic on every platform but windows
on windows it is meh
 
@towc we banged after I saved her from a forklift incident and kicked her lawyer in the ribs
 
makes sense
 
2:57 PM
My coworker does crossfit
Im surprised I didn't know until just now
It makes sense, he's (no homo) pretty jacked
 
chasing ocelots all day is pretty good exercise
 
@SterlingArcher jacking off another guy is kinda homo
 
Not if you say no homo
Then it's just a prank bro
 
@ssube I use it
 
lel you came
 
2:58 PM
It's just great, even in 2016
 
But he's gonna send me some good (safe) crossfit workouts that should help me out :D
 
he's trying to pull you to the dark side, bro
 
safe and crossfit?
I didn't think those existed together
 
yeah, somethings fishy here
 
also, @SterlingArcher send him this youtube.com/watch?v=zS8VJAsgWQA
 
2:59 PM
@SterlingArcher you're basically doing just "normal" workouts there... just under time pressure
I don't really see the point tbh
 
From what he's shown me, he only does the crossfit stuff that doesn't strain your joints with crazy shit
Glorified interval training basically
 
so, he does normal workouts? super sets?
 
I love some interval training every now and then
 
@ssube I was being sarcastic. I can laugh now because we're past 1.0.0 and the buffers got rewritten like three times, but for a very long time I would occasionally run Sublime, open up a tall shrinkwrap and cry
 
but all the time, every time? nah
 
3:01 PM
I guess? Iunno he'll do like box jumps with a squat bar but not crazy
 
@FilipDupanović well yeah, sublime sucks :P
 
> he'll do like box jumps with a squat bar but not crazy
 
Either way, whatever he does works cause he's like 40 and he's ripped
 
RIP
 
@SterlingArcher wait, are you serious or still quoting archer?
 
3:01 PM
but it's super fast :'( (compared to Atom)
 
that is crazy
 
@rlemon I mean like it will be light weights, not 300lbs lol
 
@SterlingArcher Cocaine makes you thin as well. wouldn't recommend it as a weight loss plan
 
I do box jumps with a bandicoot
 
@rlemon I mean....
 
3:02 PM
@SterlingArcher jumping onto a platform with any bar is kinda stupid
 
The Rick James workout works wonders
 
If nobody gets my reference, you're all plebs
 
@ndugger pleb
 
you're gonna fall backwards onto the bar and snap your neck and we'll all be like "lol, remember when he died"
do you really want that, @SterlingArcher?
 
You don't get it? That makes me sad
no get now I fell sad
 
user6225166
3:03 PM
i think the power of notpad is its having a rich set of plugins. but i never used atom and don't know if it worth a shot
 
@SterlingArcher bro, what are you doing tonight?
 
Regardless, it will be good to have body resistance workouts again. I'm too weak for weights I need to build my strength
 
hangouts, and I'll show you my supersets
 
@rlemon work, gym, food, passout lol
My typical weekday now
 
well you need to make time for a hangouts soon
 
3:03 PM
I think my knee is ready for real running. :)
 
I do. We haven't hungedout in a while
 
@GNACBetombo come to the dark side atom.io/packages/activate-power-mode
 
@ndugger I got the Crash Bandicoot reference bro. It's cool.
 
user6225166
try when go back home. it sound interesing XD
 
3:04 PM
We should do a hangout Monday, so I can show off my new computer (minus the gfx card, since that's not coming for weeks)
 
@Luggage well shit
 
@SterlingArcher well then, open that schedule and slot you in some lemon time
or do I need to make a Tinder account and ask you on a date?
 
@rlemon run it under the android emulator so you can pretend to be right next to him
you'll get matched right away probably
 
Make sure you name yourself Yuu.
 
I would love to match @rlemon on tinder lol
 
3:09 PM
@SterlingArcher we'd match because my bio would be "who needs love when your meme game is this dank"
 
@ssube and io.js is back (not really)
 
Mine is "My servers never go down, but I do."
 
@SterlingArcher my KVM pulls out, but I don't
2
 
My hips don't lie, but I do.
 
3:11 PM
I don't support IPMI, so you'll need a physical connection.
 
You turn my floppy into a hard drive.
 
@Luggage damn
 
Yoo
 
Either my fitbit's HR sensor is getting shotty, or my resting heart rate really is down to 56bpm... I don't believe it.
 
3:14 PM
oh lol ok
 
@ndugger Depends, with you running regularly it could be heading in that direction.
Runners tend to have crazy low RPR.
 
I haven't ran in almost a week, because of my knee, but I'm still lifting and toying with other cardio
 
@Luggage hahaha
 
@ndugger Cardio's cardio. It all helps with your blood pressure and heart rate.
 
Hi guys, can you help me please ?
I'm writting a script (for SE) that modifies the text in a question when we are writting it. The changes appear in the 'textarea' but the preview is not updated.
I have to make a manual change to the "textarea" to update the preview.
How can I update it using JS ?
 
3:16 PM
@Lordofdark try kicking off the focus/blur events or onChange for the text area
 
With running, I'm able to get my heart rate higher and I burn more calories. Elliptical is a weird alien motion. I'm gonna try doing the exercise bike instead until my knee gets better
 
the preview probably updates based on something like that, but your fake changes aren't causing the normal user-input events
 
@ndugger swimming
if there is a pool near you get a membership
 
@rlemon can't because of my chronic wound near my tailbone.
I haven't been able to swim in years because of it
I used to swim laps before it happened
 
@ssube Ok thanks :) I've been trying this without success, but if this is what I should do I'll keep trying
 
3:19 PM
@Lordofdark it's mostly a guess on my part. Have you looked at the DOM or source to see what events they're working with?
 
element.blur() or element.focus don't work
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Do you know why bluebird was chosen as the name of the promise library? I'm curious and didn't see it mentioned on their website.
 
Does SE already include jQuery? Maybe $(theTextArea).change(); :)
 
@TylerH Petka was looking for a name and a lot of the good ones were taken
 
So no symbolism or reference to pop culture, hmm
Bummer :-)
 
3:26 PM
            c.addEvent(e, "input", t),
            e.onpaste = t,
            e.ondrop = t,
            c.addEvent(e, "keypress", t),
            c.addEvent(e, "keydown", t)
@Lordofdark registers the events
 
I love swimming. I can tread water for days lol
 
Should all my events in react use an "event" object as the argument, even if they don't line up to a normal DOM event?
 
@Luggage does Event get subclassed for various "normal" events?
 
3:30 PM
I think. I am exposing an "onChange" event, but it will really be triggered by a few other dom events, depending on the situation.
ohh, I misread..
 
@rlemon is addEvent a thing?
 
I'm just gonna do some more reading..
 
@Neoares likely a custom prototype
 
@rlemon Pretty sure it's MooTools
 
3:35 PM
Unfortunately, our legacy code uses MooTools, so I have to muck around in it occasionally
 
hm, and react's valueLink property is deprecated.. that's closer to what I need..
 
valueLink? I've never seen that
 
Yeah, we've never had the need for that
 
It's for two-way binding. Since I am trying to use some react components in a mostly knockout.js app, it kinda fits that.
valueLink <-> observable
 
3:44 PM
Well, they do say you should use the onChange and then setState instead
the ReactLink is just a thin wrapper over that anyways
 
I am trying to do it in such a way that my react code doesn't do anything special for KO and my KO code doesn't do anything special for react.
 
so just create an observable to fire those events
 
well, I am creating event handlers that set observables.. but.. yes..
without boilerplate on each one.
 
put your observables in observables, so you can observe while you observe
 
There is, very occasionally, a reason to actually put an observable in an observable. :)
 
3:47 PM
well i give up for today, thank you everybody :)
Bye
 
@Luggage Like a peeping Tom who likes to watch peeping Toms?
 
So.. I think I'll make a react component wrapper that intercepts props, looks for observables, and then deals with translating that to event + value. Then just wrap that around everything in my bindingHandler.
starting with just value.
and turn "valueUpdate", a property from KO, into the current event handler.
 
Chipotle, you ok?
 
@SterlingArcher Just goes to prove they don't proof what they printed.
 
 
3:59 PM
So, @towc got beat up in the parking lot by the Erlang fans.
 

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