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4:00 PM
you're supposed to customize bootstrap and make your own build.
 
const rows = [{id:1}];
const [{id}] = rows;
Hmm
 
My problem with bootstrap is my problem with basically all frameworks... dead code.
 
@BenFortune ??
 
That works apparently lol
 
Code that just never matters
 
4:01 PM
yea. destructuring.
 
am I doing that?
 
I know, didn't know you could mix them though
 
@RyanKinal bootstrap also lets you choose which parts you want, but, yes..
 
@rlemon Nah, could do here though
 
I use bootstrap w/ a theme and my styles are bloaty bloaty.
 
4:02 PM
@rlemon yea if you have the design skills and enough time :) otherwise use a different css framework which already contains fancier styles
 
especially if you're building the css through less/sass
you just modify what's being pulled in
 
@Ronin subjective
 
@Ronin none of that is being argued. He just chose bootstrap for the proof of concept and is open to non-bootstrap.
I think.
 
yup
 
Ok, so, you use another framework that is fancier already... the same problem exists. you're using the same style someone else is, it'l look like any other site using that framework
 
4:04 PM
true, but material hasn't been beaten to death yet (my opinion)
 
solution is still the same, customize it
 
getting the guts of the site working are my focus right now
 
at least not well-done material
 
putting out something that made it half-decent looking was just there
I don't wanna think about the UI too much while working on the backend
 
@Luggage I was trying to answer the question, how to achieve a fancy design without having the skills to do one from scratch. If you have some ux people who tells you how shit has to look like, just go with bootstrap and customize, I agree on that
 
4:04 PM
but I do want to be able to test the backend
honestly, if I had the patience for it I could design a nice site. but I don't
I rage quit on designs too quickly and revert to something prefabbed
 
@rlemon Does ejs not support partials?
 
design is like fashion. today everyone loves it, tomorrow everyone hates it. bootstrap (basic styles) is from yesterday, same goes for flat design, material is from today, but the next hype will come
 
@BenFortune totally does
8 mins ago, by rlemon
none of the pages have stubs yet
 
Oh, mb
 
8 mins ago, by rlemon
that's on my list to do
 
4:07 PM
I don't understand what the 'state object' parameter is in pushState() method for manipulating browser history developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/History_API
 
idk why I thinking hacking up a copy paste job is easier than just creating the partial at the start
but my brain still goes to that
 
One problem I see, is that these gists are unlikely to have pictures associates with them.
 
> state object — The state object is a JavaScript object which is associated with the new history entry created by pushState(). Whenever the user navigates to the new state, a popstate event is fired, and the state property of the event contains a copy of the history entry's state object.
@erotavlas what about this confuses you ^
@Luggage yes, unless you provide one
so I should reduce the size of them on the list page?
 
But the design needs to look good without.
 
4:09 PM
@Luggage What purpose it serves? I though the history only contains URL, maybe a descriptions along with it
 
> Whenever the user navigates to the new state, a popstate event is fired, and the state property of the event contains a copy of the history entry's state object.
^ is the point
 
The state object is whatever you put into it. Maybe you store the 'selected rows' on a table.. whatever YOU want.
 
and it is retrieved when you change/visit the new state
it's a storage medium
I'm trying to drink more water. at least 3 of my 1L bottle per day. problem is now I cannot stop peeing.
 
so I can leave it blank if I don't need it?
 
yes.
 
4:13 PM
cool
 
@rlemon something something prostate exam
 
cancer?
 
user2620028
@rlemon she didn't age much
 
Margret Hamilton awarded the medal of freedom
 
for stacking books?
 
4:15 PM
she wrote(helped) the code for Apollo 11
 
user2620028
those are freedom books luggage
 
that stack of books is the code.
 
59 mins ago, by Luggage
I'm looking for a composable way to pre-fetch data, like Relay, but not relay.
So very hard to google for..
 
ohh, reading, ty.
 
user559633
4:19 PM
@rlemon Yeah, it's awesome. The photo on the left is one of my favorite programming-related photos.
 
@rlemon URL in the add form is wrong
 
@tristan this is my favourite programming related gif.
 
user2620028
she wrote all of that when she was that young, wonder what the stack looks like now
 
@BenFortune yea, a lot are. I'll fix it quickly.
 
@rlemon Not anymore. Now it's fap material.
 
4:20 PM
I changed the routes
 
Ah :P
 
user559633
@HatterisMad I don't believe she wrote all of that, because that would be an insane amount of code for one person to write.
 
user559633
@rlemon Hack the Pla.net (of course this domain is taken)
 
aww, that's still graphql.
 
69
Q: Is this a photo of Margaret Hamilton standing next to Apollo Project code that she wrote?

JonathanReezThe image below is widely circulated on Facebook: The caption says: Margaret Hamilton, lead software engineer of the Apollo Project, stands next to the code she wrote by hand and that was used to take humanity to the moon. [1969] Is it true that: The photo depicts Margaret Hamilton Mar...

 
user559633
4:22 PM
@rlemon "NASA contradicts this by saying that it was a whole team lead by her, which seems entirely more likely."
 
user559633
All that code written just to fake a moon landing.
 
yes
@tristan gtfo
 
user559633
(j/k NASA is awesome, she and other people that accomplished that (literally) amazing feat are heroes in my book)
 
@BenFortune done
 
user2620028
@tristan you have to be careful, they are very sensitive about their ksp
 
user559633
4:25 PM
@HatterisMad oh, is that the original source code for Kerbal Space Program?
 
user2620028
yes
 
no, we have actual nut-jobs in here. it's hard to tell sarcasm from conspiracy theorist until we know you
 
I haven't seen our resident nut job in a while.
 
lizard people got him
 
user2620028
4:26 PM
i can think of a couple of people who that could be referring to lol
 
on what?
 
dammit
 
😃
 
I blame auto-complete
gistID was somewhere in an open file
 
4:27 PM
@Luggage Which one?
 
tbh, wasn't even sure this line would work as I expected
> const [,gistId = req.body.id] = req.body.id.match(/https:\/\/gist\.github\.com\/.*\/(\w+)/);
I know how desctructuring should work. still amazed
 
You know.. the hand with eyes.
 
man, so many errors once you start using it
 
@Trasiva @ssube you're absolutely going to hate me
 
@SterlingArcher What did you fucking pull now?
If it's Zaiross or Jamire, you can go die in a fire.
 
4:35 PM
@BenFortune next on the todo list: profile page (personal) allows you to delete gists you've submitted
 
I paid for them, because I bought the scrolls pack, but I pulled Sekhmet and Lushen
 
and editing them ofc.
 
Who's Jamire?
 
A) Fuck off. B) Wind Dragon
 
lmao
I'm more happy I am about Lushen than I am the Desert Queen
 
user2620028
4:36 PM
@Trasiva This sounded like MTG talk until i googled the names
 
worse, no resale value
 
Dude, Sekhmet has buff steal and CD reset
 
user2620028
@Shmiddty ahh so like mtgo
 
you can cash out sets in mtgo, last I remember
to get the physical cards
 
I sold my MTG cards in college for about $1200
 
user2620028
4:38 PM
yeah you can the last i checked
 
does anyone know if there is a way to remove an entry from the browser history?
 
Hi! Can I attach a successCallback to a promise without starting it? I'm using angular. jsfiddle.net/e4o32w84
 
@rlemon Time to block their update servers in my router
 
@BenFortune it's driven by a opt-out setting that doesn't explicitly tell what it is
read the article.
I'm pretty sure my tv is lg
@SterlingArcher what brand is our tv?
 
4:42 PM
LG
@Trasiva true, she'll be good for a team, not sure what yet
 
user1596138
No ads on my TV tho
 
My speed team for dungeon is complete, I guess next is a nuke team
 
@SterlingArcher Arenas and GWs.
 
user1596138
I have that same UI..
 
Ah yis, good call
 
4:42 PM
@Jhawins hasn't rolled out yet
 
I'm more worried about dungeon teams atm
 
user1596138
Ah lame...
 
> numerous complaints surfaced that Samsung televisions were inserting mysterious Pepsi ads into the middle of movies that customers owned.
 
user1596138
That's my bedroom TV, my big one is LG.
 
@SterlingArcher I told you the two monsters you need to farm for that.
 
4:43 PM
@rlemon Broke the layout :P
 
Yeah I know, I'll do that once I succeed the ifrit fusion and awaken Lushen and get his runes
 
@BenFortune how?
 
user1596138
@rlemon When is it rolling out? That article is from May.
 
user2620028
@rlemon According to that article it said it hasn't rolled out in European countries yet but had already been in the American products
 
also, yea, I need to strip // off regexp that have them
@Jhawins rather, the updates for older tv's
 
user1596138
4:44 PM
Yea that's 6 months old.
 
> The impact isn't going to be limited just to customers buying new Samsung televisions, either, as the company reportedly plans to use software updates to retroactively bring the ads to older models that people already have in their homes.
 
user2620028
Maybe they curbed the updates due to unpopular media
 
@rlemon Oh, whups haha. Also xbenjii.co.uk/i/7f6rp
 
if you don't have ads yet, assume your update hasn't hit yet
 
user1596138
As long as there's an opt-out (which there is it says?) who cares.
 
4:45 PM
it's snakey
that's why people care
 
user1596138
I updated my tv like a week ago
 
@Jhawins odd. check for the setting?
 
user1596138
It gets updates at least monthly
 
maybe it is opt-in now
 
user1596138
It says they trick you into opting in
 
user1596138
4:45 PM
And I pay attention lol
 
user2620028
Go to a friends house and opt them in and wait for the anger
 
user1596138
So. Assuming it gave me a prompt that boiled down to "want some ads bruh" and I said no
 
kinda like the skype updates, you have to uncheck the "set bing as my default search provider" or some other microsoft related bs thing that they auto opt you in to
 
user1596138
This is like using a sourceforge installer and saying "yes I want 5 adwares"... Only works if you're stupid?
 
@BenFortune how did you do that?
robogist.rlemon.ca/browse?limit=4 wrapping normally works
 
4:46 PM
@rlemon It's just... there
 
user2620028
this is why i use ninite... i forgot that the installers do that
 
silly bootstrap/flex
 
@Jhawins time to mod that tv
 
user1596138
What can I do to it lol
 
@BenFortune nope, it totally is your shit robogist.rlemon.ca/browse?start=3
 
user1596138
4:48 PM
Get some 20s and some low profiles
 
"STORE"
 
@KevinB got a better suggestion?
 
nope
did think of something a little bit ago... haven't dug in to see what it would take.
custom :things: that replace with whatever text you give it
 
you could totally use robogist to install that
!!afk lunchin
 
user2620028
@Jhawins Put a bigger pipe on it
 
4:50 PM
@SterlingArcher Lushen will be your GB10 damager by the way.
 
user1596138
Pro charge my TV
 
@Trasiva yup, I'm runing him with blade and rage runes
Maybe fatal with good subs idk
Any suggestions?
 
Rage/Blade(Atk%/Crit D%/Atk%) with some speed subs.
Definitely want atk
You start using a rune optimizer yet? You'll want it.
 
heck, could simply push it to emojiData and let the gist(or theme) deal with it. didn't realize that was global
 
No I don't have the materials or grindstones
 
4:52 PM
yesterday, by rlemon
I'm thinking of adding json, unpacking it to the global context.
 
s/unpacking/evaling/
 
Makes more sense having that now :P
 
@SterlingArcher What the hell does that have to do with anything. The Rune optimizer, you fuckin' dunce, lol.
 
5:10 PM
oh lol
jesus Lushen is a beast. AoE god
 
@BenFortune see. My ideas can be useless to me. But someone will find a use for it.
 
5:30 PM
So my section of the office is completely empty save me. #VapeInTheOfficeDay
 
user559633
@SterlingArcher we get it, you vape
 
@tristan omfglmfao
 
in three.js how can I position two lines on eachother, and rotate the top one slightly
 
@snowy500 Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
user1596138
@tristan lol the comments
 
user1596138
5:35 PM
> THE ATMOSPHERE D:
 
user1596138
Someone doesn't understand rockets
 
user1596138
Isn't that just steam
 
@Jhawins Could be pretty much anything
Except steam, I guess
LH2 rockets don't make much visible exhaust
 
user1596138
@KendallFrey I beg to differ.... It could not be very many things at all lmao
 
5:42 PM
There are a good number of things that make smoke when they burn
space shuttle boosters come to mind
that's, like, aluminum oxide or something
 
user1596138
The giant clouds of smoke around the space shuttle at launch are steam
 
not from the engines though
 
user1596138
Yeah definitely not.
 
22
Q: What is the vapour/smoke that comes from the rocket boosters?

Rory AlsopWhile a rocket is waiting on the platform during the final countdown, many of them seem to have clouds of steam or something similar escaping from the boosters. Is this normal, and what are these clouds?

 
@SterlingArcher utterly irellevant
 
user1596138
5:43 PM
If it was alum oxide the crowd would be dying, wouldn't they?
 
user1596138
That amount is absurd
 
@Jhawins if the crowd was standing under those boosters they'd be FUCKING KILLED DEAD regardless of what it was
 
10/10 would survive
 
user1596138
Right but just being nearby, it would drift and not dissipate. Anyone in the immediate area would need medical attention lol
 
user1596138
5:46 PM
 
medical attention? wtf for?
 
oh, you're back to talking about the truck?
 
user1596138
Back to what?
 
user1596138
We've been talking about the truck the entire time :P
 
5:47 PM
not me
 
user1596138
11 mins ago, by Jhawins
Isn't that just steam
 
3 mins ago, by Jhawins
If it was alum oxide the crowd would be dying, wouldn't they?
 
user1596138
You made your own topic then ig lol
 
user1596138
Yea the crowd... At the strip behind the rocket
 
5:47 PM
here you switched from shuttle to truck and never told me
 
user1596138
I was never talking about the shuttle lol. Miscommunication ig.
 
user1596138
So what do you think is coming out of the truck?
 
wtf man
5 mins ago, by Jhawins
The giant clouds of smoke around the space shuttle at launch are steam
 
user1596138
I was saying "The huge identical looking clouds at launch are steam, so this is steam too?"
 
user1596138
Was explaining why I assumed it was steam, but the main topic was always the truck :P
 
5:49 PM
That seems a large jump to make
considering the SRB exhaust also looks like steam, and isn't steam
 
user1596138
Well not really. It's Rockets + bigass clouds
 
So it's clearly possible for different things to look alike and not be alike
 
user1596138
Anyway the truck uses these
 
user1596138
@KendallFrey well yeah I am asking for answers lol
 
user1596138
It's not even a rocket lol
 
5:50 PM
Well my answer is: Pretty sure it's not steam.
 
user1596138
So yea, huge jump to make my bad haha
 
even if it was a rocket, steam exhaust wouldn't look like that
 
I bet the smoke is just for show, because it stops as soon as he takes off
 
user1596138
A lot of it is water.
 
user1596138
5:53 PM
It's probably majority steam. Which is injected into that engine
 
user1596138
It;s a old ass turbojet
 
So not actually exhaust?
 
user1596138
It's both
 
user1596138
It also has afterburner so who knows. Depends how he's running it. That sure looks steamy to me tho
 
You know you can't assume based on looks
 
user1596138
5:55 PM
Yep
 
user1596138
Imma ask Dad when I get home tonight. He used to build turbojet engines for RR
 
user1596138
And geeked out on how they worked.. He will know lol.
 
One more thing: technically steam is transparent
 
user1596138
Well you can't see through it lol
 
You sure can
When you say steam you don't actually mean steam.
 
user1596138
5:57 PM
If the obstruction to my view is caused by the result of steam or the same process.... Good enough for me
 
user1596138
You mean water vapor is transparent
 
user1596138
Steam is not.
 
user1596138
But we have to be pedantic to have this argument :P
 
user1596138
I've got to get out of here and get ready to go home! 600 miles this evening.
 

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