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9:00 PM
@floor same thing it always means.
probably array indexing
 
No
To some server
 
the ISP?
 
Check out my Ookla Speedtest result. What's your speed? speedtest.net/my-result/a/1687036602
 
@KendallFrey i don't follow
 
How do you have a function acting as an array?
 
9:01 PM
my speed is fuck my life
@Waxi you don't, you have the result of the function call being an array
@floor ^
 
@KendallFrey alright thanks
 
@phenomnomnominal stop am going back to India in 5 days
 
9:03 PM
@copy now?
 
fuck you guys
 
show it kendall
 
@BadgerCat Food?
 
I can't, it requires flash
 
Cox communications ;-)
 
9:03 PM
._.
 
@Zirak no, watching 未来日記
 
Camel toe o'clock
 
@BadgerCat I just finished watching it!
 
We just started!
 
9:04 PM
OMG
Come complain once you're finished
 
OMG ok
 
I did the unthinkable and bought D3 on the console, even though I'm full blown on the computer.
 
D3: Mighty Ducks?
 
9:05 PM
@Waxi items in D3 for PS are hacked
 
But tell @copy to bring his ass over here now
 
PS4 D3 is lame
:(
 
I can't move
 
I heard it's hacked on all the consoles? I got it for Xbone though.
 
maybe it is for xbox as well?
 
9:06 PM
@BadgerCat Not yet
 
I rage quit because someone entered my game and leveled me up 1000 levels in like 3 seconds
 
@copy :(
 
took the fun out of the game
 
@copy :( why!?
 
@Zirak I'm busy!
 
9:07 PM
@copy doing what?!
 
@rlemon That's why I play PC.
 
Stuff!
 
@copy Doing who!?
 
I bet it's his emulator
 
@Waxi Fail.
 
9:08 PM
@BadgerCat The harlot
 
@SterlingArcher are you using ethernet or wifi ?
 
ethernet
 
@Zirak Takes every ROM it's offered :\
 
Hello all
 
At home I have about 50mbps wifi
 
9:08 PM
@Trasiva I did it so I could play with friends since none of them have the PC version. Hit 400 para last night though.
 
@Waxi I've been playing solo, only up to 220 myself.
 
@Zirak I think you misread my comment on the ES room issue
 
@Trasiva yea well, long story made shorter: blizz locked my account, 2 years passed and I lost interest. saw the D3 was on sale for PS4 so bought it thinking I would just make a new account. Blizz unlocked my old account (this time not asking me to fax them my fucking drivers license) but I already gave up on the PC version. now my gaming PC is dead and I'm too lazy to fix it currently.
maybe in the future
 
@rlemon Ah, that sucks.
 
@Trasiva i added you, but have no idea what name you use in game so no idea if you're in my list
 
9:10 PM
@Trasiva if/when I do play again I'll for sure add you
 
@KevinB When did you add me?
 
but that probably won't be for a while. at least not until I finish my basement
 
like a week ago or so
i'm tentonaxe #1117
 
@rlemon No worries, I have an almost 700 paragon NS barb to farm the hell out of, haha.
@KevinB I must have missed your invite, let me look into that.
 
almost 700? wow. i'm only 580 something. i generally only play solo, hate the meta support game
 
9:12 PM
@KevinB No add request was there.
I sent one though.
 
can't accept till i get home ~ 4 hours
 
That's fine.
 
Forgive the noobiness, but is there a way (or library) for me to take some data that's been shoved into a variable in js, and represent it in totally different ways in JS to drive different views on the same data?
 
@ndugger I saw it as two fold, a comment on the room's atmosphere and a comment on joining the room. About the latter, if it's just Awal, then I concede and don't have much to say.
 
I'll be heading home in about an hour, and then starting to cook some fresh potato soup.
 
9:13 PM
Apologies for being vague, if I am
 
@RobertGrant huh?
 
@RobertGrant You sort of asked if there's any way to take some data and turn it into something
Which is about as vague as you can be in programming
 
well, yeah robert, but none of them are going to do it automagically, you'll still have to do most of the ground work involving morphing the data and building the views.
 
@RobertGrant You want two read-only views of the same data?
 
@Zirak what you said is vague, yes :)
 
9:14 PM
@Zirak I might be biased about the room's atmosphere because of my run-in with Awal--Everyone else in the room does indeed seem fine. However, what I was pointing out was about how Awal enforced his own made up rules about who could join, based on his own experience as someone who commented on ES Discuss
 
alcohol award
 
@SterlingArcher :(
 
:-D
 
@SterlingArcher with wireless, i have 43Mbps down and 6 up
 
9:17 PM
well fuck me backwards I just spilled about 100 goldfish everywhere
2
 
:/
 
@MadaraUchiha Can we request a new id for the Ruby room?
 
!!afk goldfish disaster
 
@SterlingArcher karma
 
@SterlingArcher real ones? D:
 
9:17 PM
is a bitch
 
So imagine a nested structure of [ { id: 1, stuff: [ { id: a }, { id: b } ] } ], which is fine for most of the time, but also sometimes needing a denormalised representation of it, e.g. [ { id: 1, stuff: [ { id: a } ] }, { id: 1, stuff: [ { id: b } ] } ]
 
@RobertGrant make copies
map/reduce and the like
 
And since things like filters also exist on the data, being able to make a view that updates itself based on what's been filtered out of the underlying data
 
@ndugger Then it's a personal thing, it's not a room thing
 
I wrote down Kevin's ID even though he didn't give it to me, what is yours @Trasiva ?
 
9:19 PM
@Zirak I added that to my newest response in the issue thread
 
@Waxi Trasiva#1163
 
@MadaraUchiha I just saw your comment, nvm
 
@BadgerCat Yeah, I'd rather not do that anymore.
It set a dangerous precedence of other rooms also requesting, and it generally hurts what little searchability these rooms have
 
No they were not real fish you literal buttholes they were my crackers and I'm very upset now
actually im not a big fish fan
 
@SterlingArcher dude
you give me an alcohol award then tell me you dont' like fish?!
DO YOU EVEN WANT TO BE FRIENDS?!
 
9:22 PM
@SterlingArcher You have no idea how first world problems you sound right now.
 
Iunno man, fish don't taste right to me
 
Tilapia is ok
 
I've grown to love the taste of fish ever since I've gotten to know your mother.
 
@SterlingArcher you're more upset about crackers than taking the lives of 500 real fish?
 
9:23 PM
FISH ARE OUR FRIENDS!
 
"Insert joke about your mom/girlfriend tasting fishy too"
 
@ton.yeung they're full with metals, chemicals and microplastic... still i eat them :p
 
:sobs in corner:
 
@Waxi then fuckin wash er
 
@Waxi ooh, nice comeback...
 
9:24 PM
She got that from your mom
 
crl
onload={var paragraphs = document.getElementsByTagName("p");
for (i=0 ; i < paragraphs.length; i++) {
  paragraphs[i].addEventListener("click", insertBreakAtPoint, false);
}}
developer.mozilla.org/fr/docs/Web/API/Document/… ^ da uck is that, it's not valid
 
Tuna is my favourite fish, both raw and cooked
 
there is a fish species here in north sea that contains a lot heavy metals like Pb :/
 
Salmon is great
 
Yellow Fin Tuna makes the most amazing steaks
 
9:24 PM
seriously tho, Fish are good pets. don't hate fish
 
@KendallFrey You're too quick for me shooter.
 
Fish are bad pets; you can't even wrestle with them
 
@Zirak did you ever try to write your own /sbin/init?
 
@ton.yeung you cannot know that ... it came out when they were performing indicator tests
 
I killed my mom's fishy pets when I was 3
 
9:25 PM
@FlorianMargaine Nope!
 
Until you show me a fish that knows its name, then no they are not good pets.
 
I overwrote it a few times for shits and giggles
 
it's fun
 
it was in store for ages, so people consumed it
 
9:25 PM
@Waxi come see my puffers
 
@FlorianMargaine What'd you come up with?
 
not all fish are dumb. just 99% of fresh water fish and like half the crap in the ocean
 
not much yet
 
@ton.yeung no GSP
 
@FlorianMargaine I wanna do LFS one day
 
9:26 PM
haven't had a lot of time
mostly been experimenting
 
I would love to have a fancy fish tank though.
 
@KarelG we often get fish with a lot of heavy minerals like Jly from the great lakes. I wish we had some Pb fish to combine them with.
 
if you want smart fish, go salt water
 
I spent an hour trying to figure out why my fs was mounted ro
 
@ton.yeung some of the oceanic ones are huge
the aquarium trade ones grow to like 8" max
 
9:27 PM
 
Fish is good when it doesn't taste like saltwater.
 
Man, I could really go for some phở right about now
 
I... I'm done.
Fuck you internet.
 
until I went to see how systemd does it and found out one of the default services is remount-fs, which sole purpose is reading the fstab and correctly mounting everything. Linux mounts as ro by default.
 
@ton.yeung those are not really recommended for home tanks tho. I mean, you do see them... but you need a fucking MASSIVE tank to be fair to those fish
 
9:27 PM
Or, some authentic Japanese ramen; that shit can be soooo good
With a hard boiled egg
heck yus
I like spicy chicken ramen with a hard boiled egg
 
My girl makes ramen the Asian way...shits on point.
 
@Waxi what's she do after that?
I assume ramen isn't just made of pointed shit
 
@ssube shits on a point
he just told you
 
@ton.yeung Are you the one that lives in Houston, TX?
 
@ton.yeung If you're white, that's what you do.
 
9:29 PM
@Waxi or poor
those are two totally different things
 
or don't care
 
@ton.yeung Let me see if I can find the ramen place that I ate at a few times in Midtown--It's amazing
I don't think so
@ton.yeung Jinya -- google.com/…
It was amazing
Seriously, I recommend it
I miss it
 
Not to derail, but Indian food, especially buffets...10/10
 
@ton.yeung DO IT
brb, gotta pee
 
@Waxi what if I'm white. still 10/10 ??
 
9:31 PM
@copy now?
 
@Zirak I wrote a basic init system that didn't let you reboot but there was a Lisp repl :D
so I could run processes from it
 
@rlemon Of course!
 
4 year old pic
 
@FlorianMargaine Awesome!
 
well, closer to 5
 
9:33 PM
@Zirak LFS doesn't give a default init?
 
Linux From Scratch, so you make one, I guess
 
lol
 
I didn't read it as "LFS for programmers"
 
someone has been on fish forums :D
 
@ton.yeung If you like authentic chinese food and need a new place to go, let me know. It opened up a couple of months before I left. It was the best food I've ever had
 
9:35 PM
@ton.yeung nice. high tech or low tech?
and size?
right now I have one mixed reef (50gal), a WIP turtle habitat, and a 30gal planted newt tank
and like 5 empty tanks
 
eat them
 
ha
if you were closer I'd offer them too you
don't
I regret doing the reef, honestly.
 
eat your pet fish
 
with salt water, larger the bio load easier the tank
pico reef is like 45 minutes a day of work
if not more
and if one thing dies, it takes the tank with it most of the time
 
@ndugger Pho is so easy to make though.
 
9:38 PM
in a larger tank you have more time to react
nothing should live in a half gallon
 
@Trasiva I can't make it at my desk at work, though... lol
 
eh
you do know corals grow right?
lol
I have a leather that is the size of my head right now
 
corals grow by absorbing surrounding life energies, and converting it to rock hard abs
 
got it as a frag
 
@ndugger That's why you make it ahead of time and have it for nommy lunch.
 
9:39 PM
@Trasiva make me
 
Array.from(document.getElementsByClassName("grid-element")).forEach(element => {
	element.addEventListener("click", (event) => {
		console.log(event.target)
		socket.emit("move", {direction : event.target.getAttribute("data-direction")});
	});
});
Cleaner way to do this?
 
@ndugger Make you cook? Or make you some?
 
Should I spread the element list?
 
@Trasiva Yes
 
@SterlingArcher fuck you and your "
 
9:40 PM
wat
 
use '
 
also, don't create functions in a loop
 
it's shorter
 
@ton.yeung I seriously do not recommend any nano or pico reefs. I can almost guarantee she will nuke it.. it is very hard to keep them healthy. now.. convince her to make a jarquarium. I grow Red Cherry Shrimp in jars
then feed them to my newt :D
 
@SterlingArcher [ ...document.getElementsByClassName('foo') ].forEach(element => ... )
 
9:41 PM
and yeah, making the function before the loop is super important
 
heh
lemmy try to find some old pics
 
@SterlingArcher

for (const element of [ ...document.getElementsByClassName('foo') ]) {
    //pls
}
 
@ndugger Fine, you bring the beer over though.
 
What in the fuck
 
9:42 PM
@SterlingArcher es6 bb
 
I don't think chrome supports that syntax
 
@ton.yeung 2.5 gallon cookie jar. standard "cool" CF light, and an air stone. Feed them once a week.
 
babel
 
I'm not babeling the client side code
 
9:43 PM
entire thing cost <$100 to setup
(desk lamp was like half the cost, if you don't already have one)
 
@SterlingArcher why not? You could use webpack and the babel-loader
 
^
would make your life so much easier
 
@ton.yeung they are fine with ambient temp, keep your house >= 71 and they'll be fine.
they don't breed as fast, but dont' die
 
ffs guys, I'm using babel-cli, and it's never enough
 
@SterlingArcher babel+webpack or you're going to be pretty screwed
 
9:44 PM
HOW MUCH BABEL MUST I ENDURE
 
all of it
 
lol all of it!
 
olive it
 
olive u
 
Olive Juice
 
9:44 PM
@ton.yeung lower the temp. they'll eat less and breed slower
 
Jan 7 at 19:02, by ndugger
point on the doll where babel touched you
 
y kendall
 
@ton.yeung in the wild cray fish / fish in the winter do not eat. low temp === metabolism shuts off.
my pond fish right now haven't been fed in over a month
as long as the water stays <10c they won't eat
just gold fish for now
first winter, they are "trial" fish
regular. the pond is for the turtles in the summer
if I can get a deal on larger koi I'll get some
but the turtles will eat them if I get them young (and affordable)
 
Array.from(document.getElementsByClassName("grid-element")).forEach

vs

for (const element of [ ...document.getElementsByClassName('foo') ]) {
 
I figure the pond is a min 600gal
 
9:47 PM
Which is faster?
 
lol noooooo
 
@SterlingArcher the one that doesn't use forEach, which is super slow
 
they eat more meat than veg. esp when they are young
 
Isn't of slower?
 
I dunno
all I know is that forEach is a fad
 
9:48 PM
@SterlingArcher don't think in terms of speed until you hit a bottleneck
think in terms of "what makes sense here"
 
I like forEach
 
@SterlingArcher do you need to introduce a function scope?
 
I hate forEach
Give me a loop that I can break, for the love of zeus
 
@rlemon no, I'm just attaching event listners
 
then for..of
 
9:49 PM
forEach is almost entirely useless now
 
God dammit
 
map/reduce if you have results, for of if you don't
 
@SterlingArcher I know we're making you learn a bunch of new stuff all at once, but you'll stop hating us eventually. We do it because we're confident in your abilities to learn it all.
 
for of works on more collections
 
You're smart, shake what your momma gave you
 
9:50 PM
What do I have to google to make of [...spread] work in chrome
 
@ndugger that's the way out of learning
@SterlingArcher webpack babel loader
 
@SterlingArcher how to babel
but yes
webpack babel-loader
webpack has a large learning curve, though. Try gulp-babel if you need
 
@ssube the only reason I can think, is if you need to force a new scope (can't think of a reason to. but okay) and if you REALLY want that chainability (and the end of a chain)
arr.filter(Number).forEach(foo);
 
Yeah, if you're a pretty die-hard functional guy, forEach definitely makes sense in that example
 
I have no idea what the fuck I'm reading
 
9:54 PM
What did you google?
Honestly, I'd recommend you go with gulp and gulp-babel. Webpack might be too intimidating right now
 
eww webpack
System ftw
 
haven't gotten into webpack yet, other dev that works here has and swears by it
i just use gulp
 
I'm gonna pass for now. I'm just going to use what works, so I can actually make my game happen
 
jordan pls
 
@phenomnomnominal lol
 
9:56 PM
If I need to install another learning curve just to iterate a NodeList, I'm good.
 
system doesn't even work right
 
@KevinB It's not always the best tool. Sometimes gulp really is the most aproppriate
 
@ndugger gulp-babel involves more to get working, like figuring out require
webpack skips the whole module configuration stuff, which is the worst part imo
 
@ssube fuck yes it does
 
@ssube He's using node; he already knows how to use require
!!afk time to go home
 
9:57 PM
@ndugger but on the front end he'll need require.js if he doesn't use webpack
 
^no
I'll settle for Array.from
 
@ssube I don't think he's doing modules on the client
Which yeah, I know he should, but baby steps
 
The only client side anything i'm using is socket.io
 
browserify works fine for that, but i usually just don't use require in clientside code.
 
And that's it
 
9:58 PM
@KevinB browserify kinda blows, though
 
it does
 
I liked browserify until I used webpack
 
it's super awkward and not nearly as useful as webpack
 
but, it works and is already setup in the projects that use it, so no sense in changing it. definitely consider using webpack on future projects though.
 

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