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7:00 PM
Calling us kids is patronizing, kid
 
lol, argumentative and condescending.
 
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:/
 
:\
 
user1596138
You guys are the ones being argumentative in a non productive way
 
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I offered to prove it
 
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7:01 PM
I just wanted to point out that there will be issues. And I have seen them. If you don't want to believe me that's fine.
 
You could just write an example of an issue you had
 
> And I have seen them
this is what we're asking for
show us what hurt you
 
point on the doll where babel touched you
4
 
gj, Apple
 
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7:02 PM
It'll take me a bit to make the example. You said your code won't need it so I wanted to show you where in your code you will. I'm not trying to be a dick about it or anything. Honestly I thought you'd think it was neat to see the issue because you would think you could just stop compiling...
 
user1596138
Subject change
 
In theory, yes, I do believe I'll be able to stop compiling, because I'm not writing for babel, I'm just writing valid es6 according to the spec
 
user1596138
I know but I bet you've slipped a few times. It doesn't mean you're an idiot or a bad dev. But I bet Babel has helped you out in a place you didn't realize
 
what does it matter anyway
none of us have projects that will be ongoing once we can stop using babel
 
IT MATTERS BECAUSE I'M RIGHT
 
user1596138
7:04 PM
Anyway. Here's the new subject while I'm being controversial
 
lets be honest
 
lesbi honest
 
we will be using Ron Popeil by then
 
user1596138
Kittens hasn't been here in over 20 days.
 
7:05 PM
That usually still requires a conversation, does it not?
 
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Left after a fight. I'd rather not leave the opportunity for someone to come back and cause trouble. Please re-add him if he comes back to us. But he has been active on GH as well as Main just not here since the fight.
 
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@Trasiva Guess not.
 
@Loktar That looks like a Disney voodoo doll. Of Mr. Peanut.
 
Cancelled stars to not seem so "ha ha" about it
I'll clear them again, you monsters
 
cancelled my star.
 
user1596138
7:06 PM
Then canceled lol
 
@Jhawins I don't think he would cause any trouble, unlike you
 
I'm the real trouble maker
 
user1596138
Unlike me? I don't do anything.
 
@copy well he already did...
so..
 
user1596138
7:07 PM
Let's not discuss a party that isn't here to defend itself.
 
I wish he'd come back
I need some more home alone in my life
 
I don't
KEVIN
 
?
 
oh hey you're here
 
Hey, I actually liked kittens, and he was very helpful. Not sure where all the trouble came from.
 
7:08 PM
Lol
 
just wanted to say hi @KevinB
 
@ndugger it wasn't kittens who started it
 
Aye, but he sure ended it... lol
 
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He wasn't even involved until he showed up to secretly kick-mute 3 times. lol
 
yeah iirc he wasnt involved until he started kicking room owners
we shouldnt let the drama spill over again
 
user1596138
7:09 PM
Yep, no involvement until he raged.
 
he has been gone for over 20 days, he rage quit
 
user1596138
Straight up lol
 
if he comes back feel free to readd him
 
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Also guys, you no longer have to feel bad about your white privledge :)
 
7:10 PM
I'm black
 
user1596138
Exactly
 
I'm Puertorican.
 
@Jhawins you should feel bad for not knowing how to spell
 
user1596138
You should feel bad for driving a BMW but I don't give you shit for your mistakes
 
yes you do
 
7:11 PM
I feel bad about not having a tail
 
it's understandable, but you totally do
 
I do have a tail?
 
it's in the front
 
oh, well would you look at that
 
also my BMW is feeling-proof as well as sound-proof, so I can neither hear nor empathize with the poors on the outside
 
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7:12 PM
@ssube Oh cry me a river. You guys take things too seriously. I'm a casual guy.
 
> with the poors on the outside
lol
 
@ndugger well I'm sure as shit not letting them in
they're poor
 
I'm not poor, nor do I drive a fancy car.
 
I drive a shit car.
 
I love my car, it's just not fancy
 
7:13 PM
can't stand cars, too close to the road
 
gets me from a to b
and isn't expensive on gas
all I care about really
 
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@KevinB Good man
 
Mine has great gas mileage, and amazing cargo space. Love my car.
Also, people say it looks like a triangle
 
I want to buy a hybrid so I can pretend I'm helping the environment
 
triangles are the worst shape
 
7:14 PM
triangles are the most efficient shape, and you're just jealous
 
4+ sides I get, you want to be round but haven't achieved it yet. But <4 is just sketchy.
What are you trying to do with your life as a triangle?
 
the only thing I'm thinking about is getting something slightly larger so I can pull a small trailer
 
@Cereal Don't do that, you'll contribute to the global smug problem.
 
for when I need to pick up larger things
 
@ssube sit on top of dead pharaohs
 
7:15 PM
@rlemon go on craigslist and get a beater ford ranger
super cheap, pretty reliable
 
ford is shit
 
I'd still get a sedan
right now I have a economy car
 
sedan for towing? subaru?
they've got their engines put in sideways, but other than that, they're decent
 
 
you can tow (not much, but a small trailer) with a Malibu
 
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7:16 PM
@ssube Are they cheap in your area? They're retard bucks here :/ that's why I got my Dodge. A $4000 Ranger in Indiana is like $7K in Omaha
 
@Jhawins MN doesn't have emissions testing, so you can get a mid-2000s impreza for $5-6k off craigslist and a late 90s ranger for $500-1500
 
@ndugger My company works with Ford, their newer stuff is actually pretty nice.
 
user1596138
IN and NE don't have emissions either
 
I just hate renting vans/trucks whenever I need lumber or new furniture which will not deliver
 
7:17 PM
dunno, but used cars are dirt cheap here
 
Cars are boring
 
@rlemon You just need to build yourself a giant delivery drone.
 
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That one at least has low miles for the year. But that's how much they cost here for a 98/99
 
I'll never buy ford again, and I'll never buy chevy on principal, and dodge is just cheap shit covered up by fancy looking bodies. American cars are bad.
 
user1596138
omaha.craigslist.org/ctd/5371336249.html Here's a 1999 Ranger for $9K
 
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@ssube That's pricey. That thing is a piece of shit
 
I will say, for as many issues as my 2002 Ford Escape had, I loved the shit out of it
 
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Door smashed in, tailgate have rusted off, bumper busted
 
I love how you guys are linking him cars in the States, when he's probably better off looking at his local area, lol.
 
7:19 PM
@Trasiva just wanna get something like this ebay.com/itm/like/… and a car that can haul it
maybe an SUV
 
@Jhawins used cars in MN are cheap
 
now that I don't live as far from work
 
no idea why
 
@Trasiva Ford is nice
 
@rlemon SUV would be good for those shitty Canadian winter days too.
 
7:20 PM
yup
 
The only domestic car company that knows how to manage money.
 
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@ssube $3300 and it has 183K on the clock? Yeah they must be kinda pricey over there too
 
@Loktar hah
 
@Trasiva Which is arguably better than the smog problem
 
@Loktar Oh man, I know, I'm really tempted to make my next car a Ford.
 
7:20 PM
ford is a good car if you want to continue to spend many of thousands of dollars on it to repair stupid shit that shouldn't break
 
I would.. but they are too pricey lol
 
@Cereal Pffht, clearly you didn't see what it did in South Park!
 
@ndugger I just lease
always under warranty
 
@Loktar I bought my 2015 honda fit
 
my only concern with getting a trailer is where the fuck I'll put it when I'm not using it
I don't have much space in my driveway or garage
 
7:20 PM
@rlemon your yard
 
so that fold down one looks nice
 
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Dude I went into this exhaust shop here in Omaha for my cracked cat. The guy suggested cutting off both cats and just using pipe lol.
 
@ssube he isn't in the south! :p
 
@ndugger he's a level seven susceptible!
 
crl
hmm I wish I could put a private function in an array (it's an array with 4 numbers), hmm let's use an object maybe
 
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7:21 PM
@rlemon Get a fold up one
 
@crl wat
 
43 secs ago, by rlemon
so that fold down one looks nice
:P
 
@Jhawins | cat | cat | == |, amirite
 
I prefer dogs
 
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Idk but the guy was trying to tell me it would make my truck make more power etc. It was awful.
 
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7:22 PM
He looked flabbergasted when I said I wouldn't do it "because science"
 
@Jhawins almost did that on my evo
 
Remove cat before drive
 
it's useful if your exhaust was a stupid design that goes from 3" to 1.5-2" at the cat, or if you want to be a dick
 
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The fine for getting caught with cat delete in Indiana is some like $700. So.
 
@copy holy hell!
that is crazy
 
7:25 PM
I really want to temporarily do a cat delete on my current car and hear the straight six
but it's not worth it just for pretty sounds
 
crl
!!>var s={0:1,1:1,2:4,3:4, wat:function(){return this[2]-this[0]}}; s.wat()
 
@crl 3
 
finally.. third time fucking with my rpi2 and first time I got a DE working
\o/
netflix + workout here I come
 
@rlemon DE?
 
@copy did not fall 2/10
 
7:26 PM
desktop environment
 
Ah
 
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@ssube I think I'm just going to buy some minimalist offroading cats, they're like 5" long but legal, don't do much.
 
we've had pretty good luck with ford so far, dad has had his F150 for 15 years now, still runnin strong, and my sport trac hasn't had issues in 8 years
 
crl
but damn... with an object I don't have .every anymore, I really need something between an array and an object
 
but we both bought new
 
7:27 PM
@crl Map ?
 
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I think my next vehicle will be new... Going to get rid of my giant truck this summer
 
"Here we see the endangered Canadian struggling to survive as his natural habitat is destroyed by global warming"
 
crl
hmm no, it's an array having 4 numbers (for a table selection), I'd like to put on it a .rect() function that would return the dimensions (like getBoundingClientRect)
 
user1596138
I'm fixing my Ranger with tax money, remanned motor with 0 miles. It will be my daily driver for the foreseeable future
 
crl
I'll do a wrapper à la jquery
!!> var a=[1,1,2,2]; a.rect=function(){return this[0]+this[1]}; a.rect()
 
7:31 PM
@crl "undefined"
 
@crl 2
 
the pink line indicates which keyboard goes to which monitor
I didn't plan this out well
 
3 keyboards, that'd drive me crazy
 
:lean in, read, lean back, type, lean in read, lean back type:
 
7:31 PM
lmao That's just silly.
 
also, what pink line
 
@rlemon Why not just get a KVM?
 
I heard you like keyboards, so we put a keyboard in your keyboard so you can keyboard while you keyboard.
 
@Trasiva got one
this isn't a perm setup
 
@rlemon ....
 
7:32 PM
still waiting on desks
 
Oh
 
all of this will be spread out then
 
That's okay then, lol.
 
right now it is all just crammed on one desk because I'm lazy
 
I recently started using my keyboard as a guitar :S
 
7:33 PM
@rlemon have you considered using synergy-project.org ? I used to use it to work between an iMac and a laptop running ubuntu, and then another laptop running windows
 
A keytar is a relatively lightweight keyboard (with or without a built-in synthesizer) that is supported by a strap around the neck and shoulders, similar to the way a guitar is supported by a strap. Keytars allow players a greater range of movement compared to conventional keyboards, which are placed on stationary stands. The instrument has a musical keyboard for triggering musical notes and sounds. Controls for, but not limited to, pitch bends, vibrato, portamento, and sustain are placed on the instrument's "neck". The term "keytar" is a portmanteau of the words "keyboard" and "guitar", and might...
 
@KendallFrey why not just get a keytar?
 
@rlemon We had a dude when I did IT at the NSA, wanted to have 7 devices hooked into a 4 device KVM.
 
@ndugger :O
is this real?!
 
@ssube Fyi, I did a talk about skeleton projects and used your web-template as an example of one.
 
7:34 PM
@rlemon Yeah, I used to use it, and it works great. Just have to have all of the computers on the same network
 
@ssube hwat
 
@Incognito wat. really? what talk?
 
I don't want to play keyboard
 
@KendallFrey keytar isn't playing the keyboard
it is a keytar
 
7:35 PM
@rlemon Yep, synergy is great
 
The topic was about using skeleton projects to make yourself a better developer, and how to make your own skeletons by shipping design opinions
 
which is severely different than a guitar
and thus is useless to me
 
@Incognito cool, I'll watch that in a bit
 
@rlemon let me know if you decided to use it and get it to work, I'm curious if it's as good as it used to be
 
and then get around to updating that project with newer packages
 
7:36 PM
it honestly is probably the same software, their website just looks way different
 
@ndugger I'll likely use it
 
It's mostly not about JS, but I thought you'd be excited to see your repo used somewhere else like that.
 
for the cost?
worth a try
 
Well, the free version is the same features
Pro just adds ssl support and you can contact them for support
 
@Incognito yeah, that's pretty sweet
 
7:37 PM
Oh wait, there is no free version anymore
 
one time $30, my company would get angry at me for wasting the time to ask
 
Huh
 
@ndugger There's a free version
 
7:38 PM
@copy Oh, cool. didn't know it was OSS
 
class Storage extends Map {
	get(key, def) {
		if (super.has(key)) return super.get(key);
		else if (arguments.length > 1) {
			super.set(key, def);
			return def;
		}
	}
}
let s = new Storage;
let x = s.get('foo', {});
x === s.get('foo') // is there a way this can be false?
 
@copy you have a rpi2 yes?
 
Only first generation
 
@AwalGarg be consistent with braces dammit
 
Can this be valid syntax?
    roles: {
      [loginRequest.group || Roles.GLOBAL_GROUP]: [role]
    }
 
7:42 PM
@rlemon I stripped them so it takes lesser space in chat
 
if( .. ) foo();
else {
  // I hate you
}
@corvid you need to define the object first iirc
const foo = {
  roles: {};
}
foo.roles[blah || blarg] = [roles]
 
@corvid yes, it is valid syntax in ES6
 
@corvid Try it and tell us
 
orly?
TIL
 
@rlemon es6 computed property names
they're an interesting (in the weird sense) feature
very useful for a few very specific cases
 
7:44 PM
interesting, I'll read up on them
 
{ [Math.random()]: Math.random() }
 
@ssube symbol keys
 
@AwalGarg ?
symbols are good for another thing
 
@ssube symbols as keys in object initializer are only possible with that syntax
 
lol @ "i hate you" comment
 
7:45 PM
I have one drive with two partitions (boot and root) and I want to extend root to fill the rest of the drive
someone wanna be my google
?
 
@AwalGarg ohhh, makes sense
 
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@rlemon boot gparted and make it bigger..
 
I face a problem with a javascript and a servlet.. i would appreciate it if someone help me..
 
ugh, no mouse on that machine :P was hoping for a cli input
 
@nancy Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
7:47 PM
I hate tab navigation
 
@rlemon using lvm?
 
Developing more for the opensource!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IwufKV4A6Jo8tv0CayWbVUTLoxzRYk75n1ZlalF6WvA/edit#
 
I'm confused
 
for my issue?
 
7:51 PM
no
I was starting to use
 
@SuperUberDuper once you start using, it's hard to stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
I have a form that I need to duplicate. I thought about serializing it, shoving the data into an array, blank out the values, and loop through all the inputs adjusting the name attribute so they can be connected later on. But thinking about it, maybe I'm better off cloning the entire form object, change the attributes, and then keep forms separate as I insert into array. Thoughts?
Maybe I'm just talking nonsense, but I'm feeling fried.
 
vagrant at work and then I found out about docker
@ssube looooooool
are they two mutually ecxlusive things?
exclusive
 
@SuperUberDuper ahahahahahahahahahahaha
don't
 
7:55 PM
What's the best way of doing this: paste.ubuntu.com/14432303
 
saw it
 
for me it seems like docker is alternative to npm
 
@Waxi what is this doing exactly
 
@KevinB I have a form that the user fills out, and if they want, they can fill out another form, the exact same one, but different values and different values for the name attribute.
 
name your forms
 
7:58 PM
i would have a string template of the form and just insert new ones as needed.
 
Hey all, I'm new to node.js and I've set up an express server but I'm confused on a theoretical level of how/where to add client javascript to the views being served, and how to access/add to that javascript from the server. Can anyone kind of explain how this is done?
 
@ssube so is docker just the most bare OS possible to run your apps vs full VM distro like ubunto?
 
@aks. define a view engine, but the view files in /views (relative to your app/server.js)
make a /public folder (again relative)
set express.static for that directory
put your /css and /js and crap in there
 

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