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4:00 PM
@Loktar I joined the navy because I had to. My other options was a job offer at a company in the US whose name is a type of snow storm at a really nice pay but that'd make me a deserter
 
@SecondRikudo eh, what I mean by that is you are doing something to help your countrymen, and others
 
National pride isn't evil.
 
it builds community and national pride
 
@Retsam It's not holy, either.
 
Nationalism is a problem here, I think that's what @SecondRikudo is worried about.
 
4:00 PM
it kills innocent people
 
^ that, I think.
 
user1596138
Idk about you guys... But I was born way after this nation got started. I have no pride for it, I didn't do anything for this and it all looks like a melting pot of shit to me. I just was born here.
 
You shouldn't think your nation is perfect or look past its faults, but that doesn't mean that national pride is inherently bad.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Nationalism is a problem in most places.
 
exactly @Retsam
 
user1596138
4:01 PM
I'm pro-emigration
 
I hated every second of being a part of an organisation that kills people and is pretty damn good at it.
 
@Retsam My belief is that the very concept of "nations" is silly and we should just act as one planet.
 
@SecondRikudo it will never happen.
 
I loved the people, and I developed a lot of skills I wouldn't have otherwise. I hated the concept though.
 
user1596138
@SecondRikudo well that's a joke tho
 
4:01 PM
well not in our current state.
 
@Loktar Oh it will
 
Being proud of some arbitrary set of lines, so you can blow up another arbitrary set of lines, is pretty silly.
 
Either because we'll have too, or because we won't be left.
But eventually, it will.
 
People have pride in lots of things, in themselves, ect.
 
there is no and there will never be "surgery warfare" or crap like it. Any "modern" war in the past 20 years had more civil dead people than ever before (ratio).
 
4:02 PM
@ssube That
 
Also, I lived on around $200 a month (army salary here). Going from close to 5 figure to low 3 isn't great.
 
user1596138
When we are "one world" half of us will die from foreign diseases anyway
 
National pride and viewing yourself as a citizen of earth aren't mutually exclusive.
 
user1596138
Connect the world -> create giant petri dish
 
@Jhawins I think the many will suffer for the few.
 
user1596138
4:02 PM
Nobody seems to care to stop ISIS for real, maybe they will run the "One World"
 
just on a bigger scale than what happens today
 
I remember wondering if I can afford a beer or a coke and I remember planning budgets because I didn't want to overspend. This is after eating out every day and working programming the year before- it was super frustrating at start.
 
@Retsam As long as your country has "interests" and is willing to trample another country's/individual's "interests", I claim that they are.
 
It also gave me a lot of perspective I'm grateful for.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum being poor, at least briefly, is good for anyone.
 
user1596138
4:04 PM
I thought about joining the USAF or National Guard or the AFR, but it would be less money than I make now.
 
I also got to meet people who always had to wonder if they can afford a coke and it was really eye opening. So there's also that. The army is a melting pot.
 
user1596138
I'm poor enough already.
 
Can't appreciate having things until you don't, and all that.
 
@SecondRikudo Some people will always pursue their own interests at the expense of others. I don't see national pride as a significant factor in that equation.
 
^ why Communism doesn't work.
 
4:05 PM
@Retsam National pride both creates and attracts those kind of people, in large numbers, and gives them a greater sense of "justification" (just in case "murder all the ethnics" wasn't convincing enough already).
 
@ssube I disagree. I guess that's when people reeeeally become greedy if they are somewhat successful in live. When they come from real poverty.
 
@Retsam also, your country isn't currently in control of another people (and is pretty much stuck with them at this point). So there's that.
 
if you know both sides of capitalism.. you would do anything to be on the "rich" side if you know the poor side
 
user1596138
There aren't signing bonuses anymore afaik too
 
@Jhawins doesn't the army give you free home/food though?
 
4:06 PM
^ yes.
Free healthcare as well
100% coverage
 
the salary is just really free money to spend on stuff
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum sometimes that's where I'm at. My budget is so tight right now and I'm actually budgeting well. It sucks to have to think about money everyday
 
@FlorianMargaine the money you make goes exclusively to candy and porn
 
and nothing necessary
 
user1596138
@FlorianMargaine yeah. I have free home right now
 
user1596138
4:06 PM
And freedom
 
what does USAF stand for btw?
united states army... ?
 
Quick side question, is there a way to update an npm package to the latest vs without changing the package.json
 
user1596138
I'd rather not take a pay cut and lose a devastating amount of my personal freedom. I don't think I could deal with it.
 
United States Air Force
 
user1596138
United States Air Force @Loktar high five!
 
4:07 PM
ah
 
!!afk eating corn
 
@Loktar the package.json holds the version number
 
@SterlingArcher I waste so much money, I think I'll start budgeting again. It's just that I make more money off real estate and investments than I spent on "luxuries" like eating out in my entire life. A lot of people don't invest their money very well being penny smart dollar foolish - but you need seed money for that.
 
@FlorianMargaine damn I was hoping there was an npm update <package> latest
 
4:07 PM
@Loktar doesn't npm update work?
 
it updates to the latest non breaking vs
I want to update react to 0.13
 
user1596138
I just want to be able to get to work the next morning when something goes wrong on my vehicle without waiting till I get paid to fix it.
 
npm update react?
 
yeah just updates to 12.02
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum exactly, I've been trying to save for investments, but stuff keeps coming up like car repairs and forced (yes, forced) vacations
 
user1596138
4:08 PM
I don't need to be rich. I just don't want to be able to be crippled on a days notice because I don't have a measly $200 to buy a part
 
> latest non breaking v[er]s[ion]
 
looks like to make it jump to 13 I have to edit the package.json
 
@SterlingArcher poor you :D
 
I seriously do not want to go
 
So don't
 
user1596138
4:08 PM
@SterlingArcher where are you going?
 
Do freelance work in that time instead :P
 
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Q: How do I update each dependency in package.json to the latest version?

RaineI copied package.json from another project and now want to bump all of the dependencies to their latest versions since this is a fresh project and I don't mind fixing something if it breaks. What's the easiest way to do this? The best way I know of now is to run npm info express version then up...

 
I literally don't have a choice
 
@Loktar second answer
 
You don't know my brother and his gf. It would be utter hell for me
 
4:09 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I think the thing that gives you the most perspective as a soldier in Israel is the frequent visits to the Centeral Bus Station in Tel Aviv.
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher stay home and get paid to sit on the couch if you really wanna?
 
@Jhawins mexico, cancun, in a very nice timeshare
 
user1596138
Drive your Cobalt over here we will fix it together, like developers.
 
@dievardump thanks, actually npm-check-updates that one sounds great
 
And yet, I know somebody (the girls) are going to drink, scream at each other, and I wont have fun
 
user1596138
4:09 PM
Oh nvm cancun sounds nicer
 
@SecondRikudo I wish that was the thing that gave me the most perspective as a soldier.
I think the thing that gave me the most perspective as a soldier was operation cast lead.
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher psh you're single, you got some cash, they sell weed laced with cocaine off the street over there (or did when I was there) so there is definitely something you can find to do for fun
 
@Jhawins yeah, but it's ditch
 
user1596138
I was gonna take a vacation but then 2 year relationship ended... And now I can't decide if it'll be helpful or if it'll make things worse. I would have to go alone.. I think I'll just keep working. Haven't had a vacation in 3 years on June 1..
 
@Jhawins you should do something terrible and not drink or smoke for a whole year - see where it gets you.
 
4:12 PM
ditch cut with fire is still ditch
 
user1596138
@BenjaminGruenbaum I drink less than once a month...
 
user1596138
It's no fun. I wish it was fun for me :/
 
Get a few friends and some kosher wine, like this weekend. :P
 
@Jhawins not because of substance abuse (it's very hard to abuse weed and Alcohol isn't very addictive) - just for starting a trend of doing something else in that time :)
 
user1596138
Which is funny because my dad and all my brothers can go through a pint and a 18 pack in a night
 
4:13 PM
@Jhawins iunno man. My brother keeps telling me all the fighting and bickering is normal and I don't get it.. but I shouldn't have to be subjected to it on a near daily basis. If that's what a real relationship is I don't want one
 
@ssube I'm a bad Jew :P Wanna see my lunch this passover (no bread allowed)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum a sammich?
 
Their relationship alone makes me want to scream and it's not even my relationship
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher What between him and his wife/girlfriend?
 
@ssube My money's on a cheeseburger :D
 
user1596138
Aww man... I feel what you mean
 
So unhealthy and unkosher.
 
lorempizza? xD
 
yeah. the stupidest shit like eye rolling or a grunt will set off some passive aggressive bullshit
 
It's pizza (bread) mixing meat and cheese, and some of the meat is pork. There's also artichoke.
 
4:14 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum make that a flatbread pizza and it'll be better
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher yeah that's literally why me and my girl broke up last week after like 2 years. So much passive aggression and for no good reason. It just wouldn't stop
 
And that bullshit inevitably gets me yelled at for some reason or another
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I ate a magnificent steak today
Fixed me for the rest of the day XD
 
@ssube I had flatbread (Mazza) pizza, it's terrible :D
 
I'm like gonna snap man I'm seriously not happy at home anymore
 
4:15 PM
HAMMERTIME!
 
@SecondRikudo I had a really great steak at Casa Du Brazil in Eilat on Friday it was awesome :)
Where did you have the steak?
 
I'm a firm believer that if an ancient book tells you what to eat, and you obey it without a second thought, you're an idiot.
@BenjaminGruenbaum At home, my father is a professional hobbyist.
 
@SecondRikudo what book?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum but most of the jews I know aren't the best. The ladyfriend doesn't eat pork (hasn't ever, so she can't) but otherwise doesn't worry much, and a friend who was at seder had gotten drunk and ordered bacon sticks from a pizza place the night before. :P
 
@SecondRikudo nice
 
4:15 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum The bible
 
mmm bacon
 
user1596138
> Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together.
 
interestingly, of the 11 (?) people who had dinner, only 4 (5?) were actually jewish.
 
@ssube haha that last part is awesome. We actually do read the Hagadah and do a proper seder. It's a family meal and a lot of fun.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yeah, same.
 
user1596138
4:16 PM
Yeah some of the bible rules are a little outdated but it's whatevs
 
It's the one night of the year we manage to gather all of the family around
 
@SecondRikudo most of those rules aren't from the bible, also - a lot of people who eat Kosher do it because of tradition.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum We do that at my house too. One of my housemates hosts it.
 
@SecondRikudo exactly, which is why I love it.
@ssube you read a Hebrew text for two and a half hours and tell tales of Rabis?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum It gives me the exact coordinates of where to stay the hell away from.
I'm kidding, I love it as well :D
 
4:17 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum it's a translated, somewhat abridged copy, but it definitely lasts at least two-three hours.
 
@ssube do you do the singing parts as well?
 
Bunch of stuff about old places, we all yell elijah if anyone knocks on the door
@BenjaminGruenbaum yes
there's that one song that gets repeated, about how it would have been enough
reminds me a lot of bioshock, tbh
 
Nice :) The text itself is somewhat racist and pretty outdated but a lot of it is pretty nice and the morals are nice.
@ssube דיינו
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum ?
 
@ssube Dayenu
 
4:19 PM
@ssube that's the name of that song.
 
@SecondRikudo yes! lots of clapping and shouting
 
@ssube Dayenu is a fancy word for "Therefore"
 
I usually drink a bottle or so of manischewitz. It's a good time.
 
Seems like a very cliffhanging song
 
@SterlingArcher It is
 
4:20 PM
@SecondRikudo wait what? No. It's not "Therefore" it's "it would have been enough" as in Di (stop).
 
I didn't even know when passover was this year
 
@SterlingArcher started last friday or saturday, I think.
 
"No more would have been needed" is dayeno I think.
 
Dinner was supposed to be Saturday?
 
ah, I was drunk
 
4:21 PM
We screwed up and had it Sunday, because nobody could show up before that.
 
@SterlingArcher Friday, but we're really a tiny religion and it's mostly just tradition (and not belief) for us.
@SterlingArcher part of passover (the seder) is that everyone drinks 4 full glasses of wine :P
 
you have to shotgun them, too.
I wasn't informed of that last year and filled a highballer, repeatedly.
Knowing the rules this year, I... did the same thing >.>
 
Yeah, tradition died for us when my grandfather passed away. Kinda depressing, but I was never really religious
 
Around christmas, the ladyfriend decided she wanted some manischewitz, so we hit a few liquor stores and ended up finding one that actually carried it, so we bought their whole stock (like 4 bottles).
That stuff is so tasty.
Mogen david, though, is not.
 
4:26 PM
There is actually pretty good wine in Israel, it's pricey though.
Just yesterday I paid $60 for a bottle of wine in a restaurant here. I miss France where good wine is cheap.
And for $60 you can get really great wine.
@SterlingArcher :/
 
I love grapes.. but I hate wine :)
that's a great awesomeness-price ratio
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I know, it was actually very upsetting watching my whole family drop from tradition after that
 
@SterlingArcher you can reanimate that tradition when you start your own family :)
@jAndy do you like scotch?
 
I'd like that :)
 
Mornin'
 
4:29 PM
To be honest, I just want to go back to my parents for a while and sort my life out
 
@SterlingArcher that's not really a thing :/
Maybe get a better job/promotion and in a few months switch to 80% time?
Or the @Jhawins's challenge? (No drinking or weed or other similar things for a year)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum you can get great wine for $20
 
@FlorianMargaine yeah, I love that about France
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum that's one thing I'm proud of, I've been clean for almost 3 months now
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I didn't drink any alcohol for the past 5 years at least. I guess if you gave me a glas of scotch... I would make so many promises, bluebird would look like childs play
 
4:32 PM
@jAndy lol
 
I'd like a new job close to home. The amount of money I'd save on commute alone would be awesome
It gets stressful when you get home at 8:30pm from work and by the time dinner is done and cleaned, I only have time for a shower and like.. 1 episode of archer before bed
With a job closer to home I'd have much more free time
 
I'm in a similar situation
Except I enjoy my commute
 
@SterlingArcher ouch yea man that is rough
 
I work from home
 
Because that's when I either read or listen to a podcast
 
4:33 PM
take that
 
I can't work more than 15 mins from home :/
 
I look forward to both of those
 
@FlorianMargaine I do some days :p
 
Sometimes I wish I had a slightly longer commute so I could get more of my audiobook done
 
@SomeGuy yeah I get a lot of reading done, but I'd trade it in for reading time on the couch
 
4:35 PM
I find my commute tiring, so I'd trade it too
 
I'm currently working my way through the Malazan series... which is not terribly conducive to listening to in 10 minute intervals.
 
Plus, Indian weather is terrible
 
I wouldn't mind taking the bus to a new job close to home, but I'd feel better if I made enough to actually have emergency money like car repairs
Bus is cheap and easy
Much like my ex-gf :O
 
Hahaha
 
@SterlingArcher Nice
 
4:38 PM
@SterlingArcher you dated @KendallFrey 's mom?
3
 
How do you think we ended up with Kendall?
 
@ssube of course not, he'd still be lost in her
Kendall needed 9 months to get out of her
 
@SterlingArcher that would explain why they called him seamus for a while
 
omg lol
A wise man once told me: "If you're using eval, you're most likely doing it wrong." — Sterling Archer 1 min ago
truf
 
i'm trying to upgrade my nodejs
getting this:
MacBook-Pro:ccp joe$ brew upgrade node
Error: node 0.12.2_1 already installed
MacBook-Pro:ccp joe$ node -v
v0.10.26
i don't understand now.. is the node version that i have is 0.10 or 0.12 ?
 
4:45 PM
Then uninstall it first
 
You seem to have multiple nodes. Depending on the type of node, I would suggest checking with your filesystem or doctor.
 
@Zirak Have you read The Martian?
If not, you have to read it
 
@SomeGuy Maaaaybe?
Weir? Then no
 
YOU'D REMEMBER IF YOU'D READ IT
 
grumpily adds it to list
 
4:46 PM
It's an amazing book!
You'd love it
 
@JoeSaad install a non deprecated version like 1.6.3
 
how do i do that?
 
@SomeGuy strikes grumpily added entry, enthusiastically adds it
 
remove all my nodes?
 
Are answers that answer a question about "is there a plugin" bad answers? sauce
 
Hahaha
 
@SterlingArcher you should edit it
 
Edit it to what, though?
It's a link only answer to a plugin question =/ not really sure if downvote or low quality.. etc
 
user1596138
@BenjaminGruenbaum psh fuck that man.
 
4:48 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum i thought the one i'm using is not deprecated
 
@JoeSaad only technically.
@SterlingArcher I tried to edit (the question)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum, ah, but what about the answer?
 
@SterlingArcher I dv'd it
 
The question may or may not be salvageable, but I'm not sure about a link to a plugins website
Not flag worthy?
ah lol nevermind, answer deleted
 
how do i remove all my nodejs ?
 
4:51 PM
unmount the drive they're on
 
lol
 
user1596138
delete this;
 
format c
rm -rf /
 
got to remove a program on windows
 
del *.*
 
4:52 PM
i tried this brew uninstall node
 
@Jhawins if you knew just how many times I've written that exact thing...
 
but it doesn't seem that it removed all different instances of node
 
//c++ flashbacks
 
funny thing, files with no extension still match *.* on windows, IIRC
 
user3949359
how come my for loop takes 4 parameters?
 
4:54 PM
how come your for loop takes parameters?
 
is there a comma?
 
user3949359
@JanDvorak yes, how does it know which one to go for/
 
for loops in ES7 will take four parameters, although the last one will be reserved for future use.
 
@nosille It would help if we didn't have to guess what your code is.
 
user3949359
4:55 PM
for(var i=seq.begin(); i!=seq.end() && c<5; i=seq.next(), ++c)
 
in that case it'll run both
 
user3949359
it's calling freaking properties
 
!!> for (var i = 0, j = 0; i < 10; ++i, ++j) { /* nop */ }; console.log(i, j);
 
@ssube "undefined" Logged: 10,10
 
I'm a fan of abusing for loops for code golf purposes
I almost never have loop bodies
 
4:56 PM
tada! the magical comma operator.
 
key words: code golf
 
not to be confused with the coma operator, which never returns.
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@nosille the comma behaves a whole lot like logical operator short-circuiting, as well
 
@ssube O_o in what sense?
 
var foo = (1 + 1, 2+ 2); console.log(foo);
 
@ssube "undefined" Logged: 4
 
user3949359
4:58 PM
@ssube say what?
 
@KendallFrey it may evaluate both sides, but will only return one
, and || have similar (identical?) behavior when the left operand is falsy
 
Isn't that the opposite of short-circuiting?
 
@ssube but short-circuiting means it may not evaluate both sides, which is not the case for ,
 
dammit
@Retsam yes
 

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