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11:00 AM
@GNi33 happy birthday in advance :P
 
@R.j. Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
Hi guys ca you please check this question
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Q: Pagination to Html files(Epub Reader)

R.j.I am developing one app which is about reading epub files. I show html files after unzipping it. Here I get chapters and using next and back button I manage chapters. But these chapters are lengthier in size(larger than device height) so it has scroll. Now as it is epub file I would want to rem...

 
@CapricaSix thanks
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum - Thank you. I found a good PDF online for free. Wait, I'll link you to it.
 
11:01 AM
@AaditMShah member of IEEE ?
 
@Darkyen - No.
 
it helps in finding some research papers :-) and then u have the Internet :P
i wont expect much from our colleges in here :P
 
@Darkyen - You're an Indian too? =)
 
@AaditMShah yeap
 
Awesome.
 
11:05 AM
> Today we had a lady come into our college from SAP so they claimed to have amazing market holding and providing exceptional courseware [ and a lot of mumbo jumbo of marketting ], when i saw their syllabus i shruddered from Inside
heres a few qoutes from her
 
@Darkyen, lol.
 
> PhP goes best with Oracle Database [ i was like is Lamp a myth ? ]
> ASP.net is one of the most powerful language which is core of every net based application and is growing faster [ really ??? really ??? U in senses ?? ]
 
PHP and Oracle vs XAMPP.
 
@AaditMShah i'd go with XAMPP or LAMP
and the best !
 
My college forced us to use VBScript in ASP.net
Not even JS. ASP.net supports that.
 
11:07 AM
They showed us we will be able to make Symbian( which according to them has a lot of scope )
@AaditMShah i know about VBScript..
people in these organizations need to start understanding education doesnt means direct result, they have to think 4 year ahead!
 
Perhaps in some other time when Nokia flourished.
 
and iPhone Apps if we learn Java and ASP.net
my immediate question was ... wait What happened to Objective C ?
 
The scope of IT in India is limited.
They want technicians. Not programmers.
 
@AaditMShah blame the government :P
They want masons not programmers
 
That's the problem with India. It's got too much manpower. Hence the government wants to capitalize on that.
 
11:09 AM
Goverment supports insourcing outsourced work! but not startups in our own country... the big corporate gets tax benifits the new startups pay full tax! wtf ?
 
So the level of education in India is very low. However India still produces more engineers than any other country. Manpower.
 
It will go offtopic if we start :P
@AaditMShah China will outshine us in More sooner or later
 
@Darkyen - Agreed.
 
and the level of education, well i wont comment on that.. The basics havent changed since 1857
we just changed the chapters the books the subjects but neither they way of teaching nor the approach towards learning
 
Indeed.
@Darkyen - Have you read Mindstorms by Seymour Papert?
It's the best book on education and learning.
 
11:12 AM
@AaditMShah NOPE... dude who has time to read something they want to !!!!
comon man i have to study ... i have to top my class ... get in IIT ... make through CAT ... get a JOB!!
;-)
 
@Darkyen - Wow. That's a lot of work.
 
@Darkyen You're trying to get into IIT?
 
Gosh man you guys aaarrrgh
well that was sarcasm :-) and i will check that book out soon :-)
 
No. I'm in second year B.Tech. IT. I'll be appearing for GRE and TOEFL.
 
\o
@AaditMShah i am in 2nd year of BE i dont wanna study anymore :D lol
 
11:15 AM
Hopefully I'll get into MIT, Berkeley or Carnegie Mellon. What about you?
 
i dunno maybe err a startup :D
 
I have the PDF version of the book if you want it.
 
if i want a masters degree i will think on it after i am atleast 25
 
@AaditMShah Nice! Best of luck!
 
@AaditMShah send it :D
 
11:15 AM
Don't do Masters
 
and best of luck :D
 
That was my plan earlier as well
 
I'm freaking hating it.
 
// the point you start hating education is probably the point you can call yourself educated.
 
@Darkyen I disagree
 
11:16 AM
I love education
I just hate the topic I'm doing
 
@phenomnomnominal, masters in CS Theory. Hopefully that will be fun.
 
@AmaanCheval i am kidding :P
 
@Darkyen, I'll upload it to MediaFire.
 
@phenomnomnominal whats your topic ?
@AaditMShah how big is it ?
 
Optimizing Augmented Reality Rendering based on Human Visual Perception
 
11:17 AM
@phenomnomnominal thats a damn cool topic!
 
In theory, yes
 
@Darkyen - It's 2.46 MB.
 
But at the moment we're doing user studies, and it just feels like busy work.
 
@AaditMShah send it to abhishek@hingnikar.com
after my exams i will read it while going back to bangalore :D // enough time
 
@AaditMShah You make games?
 
11:19 AM
@phenomnomnominal - Tell me about it. Last year I had a choice between Linux programming and Object Oriented Analysis and Design. Guess which subject my classmates chose?
 
@phenomnomnominal What exactly is user studies ? Bringing people let them live like tony stark for 10 minutes and then ask thier experience ?
 
@Darkyen, nope
 
@AmaanCheval - Used to. I made a 3D game using WebGL once. Then I realized that I'm more interested in creating compilers, etc.
 
@AaditMShah OOAD ?
 
At the moment we're investigating at what point people can perceive alterations to a light map
 
11:20 AM
@AaditMShah Ah. How'd you learn WebGL? I'm having the hardest time with it
 
@phenomnomnominal Interesting
 
@Darkyen - Yes. What a shame. Drawing useless Use Case Diagrams.
 
@Darkyen, yeah it is,
 
@AaditMShah I know :D
 
Staying up for 3 days rendering 144 images for it wasn't.
 
11:20 AM
guess what my classmates chose b/w Java , ASP.net and PHP ? for technical training
 
@AmaanCheval - I learned it via practice. I studied from a site called learning WebGL.
 
@AaditMShah any experience with Open GL or DX ?
 
@Darkyen Uh, they all sound bad. XD
 
@AmaanCheval what exactly is so hard about web gl ?
 
@Darkyen - No. I've only used WebGL, but it's based on OpenGL.
 
11:22 AM
@Darkyen Understanding it
 
@AmaanCheval, is it the lack of resources?
 
GLSL or are you using three ?
 
Learn WebGL before three
 
@AmaanCheval - I agree. Hence keep practicing what you read.
@AmaanCheval - Check this site: learningwebgl.com/blog/?page_id=1217
 
@AmaanCheval you did learningwebgl.com/blog/?page_id=1217 right?
@AaditMShah nice :p
 
11:23 AM
@phenomnomnominal In a way, yeah. It's probably more about beginner resources, since I don't get much about 3D programming
Yeah, I am / was using that
 
Do you have any of the mathy fundamentals?
 
^
 
That's my main problem. I have very few, and I don't even know what all the fundamentals are
 
now thats a word i was thinking for so long .. nicely put
@AmaanCheval ever read about 3d mathematics in school ?
 
@Darkyen - I can't seem to upload Mindstorms to MediaFire. Hence I'm sending it to you directly as an attachment.
 
11:25 AM
@Darkyen They don't teach that in school
 
@AmaanCheval they do
atleast i was taught
@AaditMShah thats okay :-)
 
The closest we got was to having 3D diagrams and using simple trigonometry to figure out the angles between planes
@Darkyen I didn't do SSC, so we didn't.
 
@AmaanCheval - It's pretty simple. You should just learn about matrices. In particular transformation matrices.
 
Hi guys.
On Github, someone commited a good idea but I'm not happy with all the code. Is there any way to change just a part but keep this guy contribution ?
 
Ah shit!
 
11:26 AM
[1, 0, 0, 3]
[0, 2, 0, 3]
[0, 0, 1, 3]
[0, 0, 0, 1]
 
@AmaanCheval you keep on erasing the fact that you are 16 for me :D with your wisdom :P
 
@AmaanCheval, would that mean anything to you
 
@AaditMShah Cool! Thanks
@phenomnomnominal Nope
 
@dievardump - Pull the changes and then edit out what you want. I'm no pro at Git. Hence that's what I would do.
 
That's a transformation matrix
 
11:27 AM
@Darkyen There isn't much wisdom here, you know :p
 
@AmaanCheval nah you talk more mature then 16 :P usually
 
@Darkyen - Sent. Check your inbox.
 
hell you talk more mature then i am mostly
@AaditMShah recieved
 
@phenomnomnominal Got any resources where I can learn more (in a linear fashion instead of articles strewn across the internet)?
I found this
 
@Darkyen Because there's a natural order: 16 year olds are more mature than 13 year olds.
3
 
11:28 AM
any of my lovely boys fancy a challenge lol!
 
@dystroy op doesn't even know what regex is, op will surely just copy-pasta, you can explain how the regex works but chances are he'll just copy-pasta anyway. Nice solution though.
 
@Zirak ah fuck you :D
 
@AmaanCheval, you should implement a math library
@AmaanCheval, but that looks good
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum - I have a free resource on nested stack automata. Should I email it to you?
 
@AaditMShah false approval, sorry some other email came (x , i thought its u because of the tie
you sure you sent to abhishek@hingnikar.com ?
 
11:29 AM
@Zirak, but girls are 4 years more mature than boys, so @Darkyen should be ~1 year more mature
 
@AaditMShah So, the guy I asked asked another guy who is writing his doctrinal thesis on automatons, has no idea either :)
 
@phenomnomnominal I'll put that on my list of things to do (which moves along very slowly)
 
@Darkyen - Pretty sure.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Did you see HBP's answer ? Am I the only one to find this ridiculously complex and useless ?
 
@AaditMShah sure, "moc.sknarpit@ijneb".split("").reverse().join("")
 
11:30 AM
then something went wrong :-(
 
Hi guys
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum - Lol. Nested stack automata are a partly context sensitive automaton.
 
I am thinking to buy javascript book
which book do you guys recommend?
 
@phenomnomnominal Did you tell yourself that so you'll feel better when you got your ass kicked in high-school?
 
I found this
 
11:31 AM
@Mr_Green Do you already know some JS?
 
Is Simonsarris here ?
 
@Zirak yes :(
 
@Mr_Green that one if you don't know JS, "The Good Parts" otherwise
 
11:31 AM
@SimonSarris "Are you here?" - dystroy
 
ok
thanks
 
@AaditMShah Are they more expressive than normal stack automatons?
 
@Darkyen - I'll try sending it again.
 
I'm not sure anymore, was it simonsarris who wrote a JS book ?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I am beginner in JS
 
11:32 AM
@dystroy Yep
 
I mean I done some coding with it
but not advanced
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum - Yes. Normal stack automatons can only access the top of the stack. Visibly pushdown automata can access any element in the stack and nested stack automata I believe can access any element and also create substacks.
@BenjaminGruenbaum - I sent the email. Check your inbox.
 
@AaditMShah You're from Mumbai, right? Where are you studying?
 
@AaditMShah You know, that if you have a second stack it's turing complete, so it's something in the middle?
 
@AmaanCheval - I study at Mukesh Patel. Vile Parle.
 
11:34 AM
@dystroy hah, it's also wrong
 
@AaditMShah That's NMIMS, right?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum - It's a single 2nd order stack which holds multiple 1st order stacks. Not two separate stacks.
@AmaanCheval - Correct. MPSTME NMIMS.
 
Haha. Any good?
 
@AaditMShah interesting
@AaditMShah describe a language it matches and a single stack can't
 
@AaditMShah try on abhishekhing@icloud.com if it fails
that one garuntees i will be pinged at like 8 places if it reaches :D
?
@phenomnomnominal you just found that you have one ?
 
11:46 AM
Two actually.
 
@phenomnomnominal Damn. Maybe you should be more careful when picking the soap.
 
@AmaanCheval - No. All colleges are pathetic. However it's better than Mumbai University affiliated colleges. The syllabus is better, but still pathetic.
Sorry I got dced.
 
@AaditMShah That's not good to hear
But it was expected
It's alright
 
@AaditMShah why does indian college names sound like overdone acronyms ?
 
11:48 AM
@phenomnomnominal wait a second
now you have a couple of pinned penis
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum - The following language is an indexed language: a^n b^n c^n d^n
 
Where n >= 1
 
@AaditMShah Ah, good example.
 
1 message moved to Trash can
 
11:50 AM
The d^n is uncalled for though :P
 
I'll send it to the other email @Darkyen.
@Darkyen - Heard of Lovely Professional University? That one always makes me laugh.
 
!!/slidepoop
 
Mar 13 at 1:40, by rlemon
(Random Fact, when rlemon was 13 he pooped on a slide. he isn't proud of it, but he felt it was time to confess. I'm sorry slide.)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum - Lol.
 
@AaditMShah Hahahaha
 
11:50 AM
@AaditMShah the first time i heard i thought wrong really wrong
@phenomnomnominal sorry bro i removed ur 2, now they are in thrash can
 
@Darkyen, same here. I forwarded the email to abhishekhing@icloud.com
 
Do you guys use window.setInterval or just setInterval. I know they're the same thing, but which seems clearer?
@Darkyen :(
 
@AaditMShah yeah i got 2 emails :-)
 
@phenomnomnominal I use setInterval
 
@phenomnomnominal - Just setInterval. It's used outside of browsers too.
 
11:52 AM
Any way to know if you use mousewheel or DOMMouseScroll without browser sniffing ?
 
@phenomnomnominal setInterval
 
window.window.setInterval
 
@dievardump - What's the difference between a vardump and a coredump?
 
@dievardump read the spec
 
window.top.window.setInterval
 
11:53 AM
@FizzyTea - That one's perfect.
 
@Darkyen I read it. Only FF implements DOMMouseScroll. And there is no way to know without browser Sniffing
 
then use the good old trick
 
I was thinking of attaching the event listener on both
 
if( 'onDOMMouseScroll' in window ) /* da */
else /* ta da */
@dievardump NO DONT DO THAT!
 
Nope, it doesn't work.
 
11:54 AM
it can go wrong really really bad!
lemme see :P
 
DOMMouseScroll is a DOMEvent
 
I think there are more people interested in go here than in the go room. @FlorianMargaine If you're interested, maybe favorite it too
 
Now you're talking!
 
@AmaanCheval - This is the first game I ever made in JavaScript. Thought you may want to see:

http://jsfiddle.net/3wBnf
 
Oh, snake? Nice
 
11:56 AM
guys,got a second?
 
@rlemon... are you there?
 
> the onmousewheel and DOMMouseScroll events are also fired on elements that have no scrollbar or when the contents are not scrolled. If you would like to receive a notification when the contents of an element are scrolled, use the onscroll event.
@dievardump
darkyen.webs.com/raycastV3.html @AaditMShah my first and last game on js
 
@AmaanCheval - Also, the source code for my 3D game:

https://github.com/aaditmshah/Kick---Dribble
 
Well, it won't scroll. It's in order to make an action when mousewheel, I do not want anything to scroll :p
And I hate: var mouseWheelEvent = (/Firefox/i.test(navigator.userAgent))? "DOMMouseScroll" : "mousewheel";
 
@AaditMShah, nice!
 
11:59 AM
@Darkyen, nice. Looks like Wolfenstein.
 
@dievardump its just ugly
 
@AaditMShah its exactly the same technique
 
@AaditMShah Sweet, thanks!
 
just nihilogic has tons better version of it :P
 
11:59 AM
calling anyone with js skills,... want a task.... i need help...
 
@phenomnomnominal - Thank you.
 
^--- i approve her cause is not help vampire shes really in trouble,,, white knight needed..
 

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