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11:00 AM
I hope u wrongly think on me.. thats y i invited..
 
@OctavianDamiean Hahaha
 
@GNi33 meh, pretty expensive car repair, my monitor is dying, Finanzstrafe and no more Zirak. :(
Oh yea, I also have a headache.
 
Java is such a piece of shit. It's been bothering me about a new update for weeks, and now that I finally selected "Update now", it says, "You are already running the latest version of Java."
 
well, if it helps, I'm feeling like crap too today
and I have no idea why
 
Go get some ice cream
 
11:02 AM
where did Zirak go anyways? I missed that part yesterday
 
I felt like crap, and then I ate some ice cream. Now I feel awesome
 
@GNi33 banarnia
 
@GNi33 Not sure if I should say, since that'd disclose his location
 
@SomeGuy Blame the guy who wrote the update software for java then
 
13 hours ago, by SomeKittens
He's learning Jew-Jitsu
Hahahahaha
@SomeKittens You're hilarious, man
@OctavianDamiean I think Zirak may be back every now and then, though. Not like he's never going to be using a computer again
Maybe not for the first month or so
 
11:06 AM
@erikroyall Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@SomeGuy I know, he might be online this weekend already.
 
@dr.eval I think I was the one who welcomes you
 
!!Did we flip Caprica's sex in Zirak's honour?
 
@SomeGuy Nuh-uh
 
Hmm... I've written a JavaScript Style Guide github.com/erikroyall/hilo/wiki/styl
at age 14
 
11:07 AM
@SomeGuy No no,
 
Apparently he created a circular loop in his update logic.
 
There's just a problem with the localStorage JSON importing thingy.
 
When someone confronted him about his circular loop, he defended himself using circular logic.
 
@erikroyall Since when does age matter to writing style guides?
 
I guess he's just loopy.
 
11:08 AM
Hahaha
@erikroyall Congrats, though.
Is your name really Erik? :p
 
@SomeGuy Thanks! Be sure to check it out.
And yeah, Erik Royall is not my real name. But I am well-known with that name
 
Pfft. Damn Indians.
It's not racist if you're from the same race, right?!
@erikroyall The style guide seems pretty meh. I wouldn't adhere to this.
 
Visual Basic is the next up and coming thing, IMHO — eidsonator 4 mins ago
What a troll
 
I am against racism and I don't consider myself as belonging to a country
 
> Braces must go on their own line.
Your example shows otherwise.
@erikroyall You're a "Cognitive Psych"?
 
So, a friend wants a wordpress blog. They have a psd template and want someone to just take that and make a wordpress theme out of it. It has 2 pages in it - the main page (recent article previews, one from each category) and some theming, an articles page showing articles in a category. Anyone with experience - how much does/should that cost?
 
I was starting to like you!
 
Psychologist
 
@OctavianDamiean The commas on different lines?
 
Yes, the comma first thing.
I hate that.
 
11:12 AM
@erikroyall Yes, are you a cognitive psychologist?
@OctavianDamiean Me too
I'm not fond of two spaces for indentation either. I prefer 4 spaces
 
Unofficially, yes. I'm really good at that.
 
But that's really just a matter of preference. Like a lot of things
 
I didn't throw up for at least 2 hours, I read commas first ? Here I go
 
@SomeGuy I prefer PI spaces
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Urgh, that's the most annoying job ever, charge 'em enough.
 
11:13 AM
> Indentation must be of 2 (two) spaces (no tabs).
 
@erikroyall How do you determine if you're good with it?
 
why?
 
I've written some online examinations and passed them.
 
> Having gotten my fifteenth love proposal
 
11:14 AM
What is a love proposal?
 
You guys are digging through my history...
 
I propose to love you. Do you agree? yes/no/abort
 
@erikroyall We always do.
We're really good at that.
 
love://<pair>key=heart;value=forever
 
@Kippie YES!
 
11:15 AM
love protocol
 
@Kippie I'm missing the I'm scared option.
 
Is there some day light saving time in US ?
 
I wish @Zirak was around. He'd know how to be funny now.
 
Stop saying his name! It's hard enough already!
 
@jAndy Olson tables tell me it's 04h00 in Detroit when it's 00h00 in UTC, is that right ?
 
11:17 AM
Why'd he leave anyway?
 
@Kippie Reasons.
 
To learn Jew-Jitsu
> Never believe the fact that you are an idiot
 
@OctavianDamiean Hurricane-related reasons?
 
@erikroyall I disagree.
Strongly.
 
@dystroy what are Olson tables
 
11:17 AM
@Kippie Yes.
 
> Live not to live, but to give life
Haha, Darwin agrees, I guess.
 
@erikroyall you're an author?
 
@OctavianDamiean He's also a scientist, cognitive psychologist, and a liar. :P
 
@OctavianDamiean I'm looking for someone to do it, not actually do it.
 
11:19 AM
@jAndy here's a tip, it's not related to the Olson twins.
 
@OctavianDamiean Yeah. Article writer for 2 online mags and currently authoring Acquanting JavaScript
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum oh.
 
Kidding. He probably just exaggerates his interests.
 
!!tobacconist
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.
 
11:19 AM
!!/tobacconist
 
@erikroyall Is that going to be an ebook or a print book through a publisher?
 
!!> "@Zirak :("
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum "@Zirak :("
 
@OctavianDamiean eBook maybe.
 
@OctavianDamiean Any idea where to start?
 
11:20 AM
@erikroyall Congrats!
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum with some painkillers.
You mean looking for people to do it?
 
Standard time zone:	UTC/GMT -5 hours
Daylight saving time:	+1 hour
Current time zone offset:	UTC/GMT -4 hours
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I know that @mikedidthis is a top-notch designer, maybe he knows or has the time and interest to do it.
 
@mikedidthis , if you can do it fast and well I can get you that job.
 
11:22 AM
oops!
 
oh yea.. timezones are horrible, especially that daylight saving bullcrap
 
oops!
 
@jAndy I would gladly use only UTC, even on my clocks, but non-programmers around the world are hard to convince
 
I'll enjoy my earl-grey now (for real)
 
@dystroy where do you live? UTC?
 
11:24 AM
Even programmers... I'm currently building workarounds because my colleagues don't understand the need to work with UTC :(
@erikroyall No, I don't live in an area where UTC is "natural".
 
what we do if we colonize moon or mars soon... this means we need a ton of new timezones
oh gosh
 
@dystroy some time ago though, the reference meridian went right through Paris. :)
 
would it actually be a problem that a "day" on mars only is about 20hours ? Timezone wise....
 
New Quote: There is no need for ideas. With needs come ideas.
 
UTC is the same as GMT for those in GMT time zone?
 
11:27 AM
@Neil yes
 
I think everyone should use UTC
 
@OctavianDamiean Yes, that's like the fact we're exchanging in English here : imperialism + cultural blindness brought London's culture everywhere...
 
people would jsut have to adjust to the idea that maybe you'd wake up to go to work at 16:00
 
@Neil There are reasons not to do that.
 
i think the concept of time zones is crazy, just that most people are used to that level of crazy
 
11:29 AM
My brain is fine tuned for UTC. "Good Afternoon, UTCians. Well it's 11:30 AM for you."
 
@OctavianDamiean you mean daylight saving time?
 
@Neil no no, I mean not to have only one time zone.
 
@OctavianDamiean Right, but I mean the reasons for not using one time zone would be daylight saving time?
 
The human body needs the day/night cycle for medical reasons.
 
@OctavianDamiean Using UTC doesn't mean you'd wake up and go to work at night
 
11:30 AM
why would that change ?
its just a different number on your clock
 
@Neil well, office hours and stuff.
 
It's like using Celsius instead of Fahrenheit
 
Oh that you mean.
 
It doesn't make 30 degrees Celsius cold
 
I would highly welcome that
 
11:31 AM
it's just a different way to represent the same thing
 
@Neil Yea no I get you now.
I got your first message wrong.
 
it would eliminate the need to have daylight saving time actually
since the whole point is to make "8 o'clock when the sun comes up"
 
daylight saving time is obsolete anyways
 
it would make plane travel a lot simpler
I had this discussion with my wife, and she had a hard time wrapping her head around it
And I'm like "What's difficult about that?!"
 
Saw a really offensive parody account of mine [@erikroyall3 on twitter](tech.pro/erikroyall/blog) [Somebody block him]. Need to throw up. brb
 
11:34 AM
you take a 10 hour flight at 5 o'clock and you arrive at 15:00
 
as you mentioned, I guess you 1st would need a world-wide consensus about it (LOL) and 2nd people would have a problem with "getting up at 16.00"
 
yeah, it won't happen in our lifetimes most likely
 
More like never.
 
But my wife (who's italian) likes to ask why we Americans won't switch to the metric system since it's "better"
 
but I don't see a reason why they didn't introduce that "world timezone" just as parallel as anything else so far
people could choose to use it or not
 
11:36 AM
and I like to reply by asking why the world won't switch to UTC time, because it's "better"
 
@Neil and both of you are right.
 
timezones made sense when most people lived their entire lives without even having to talk to another person in another time zone
 
need help in collapsible listview dynamically pastie.org/8406157
 
That's no longer the case, and now what time it is depends on where you live, which is kind of silly
the universe couldn't care less about the arbitrary timezones of a little pale blue dot
 
well... but we care
 
11:39 AM
@jAndy no you don't! you just think you do
 
ahhhhh he's in my head
 
anyway, lunchtime
later
 
enjoy!
@Neil Y U NO USE !!AFK
 
because that feature is the worst idea ever, even worse than timezones and the imperial system.
 
why would you say that ?
I think its it can be a pretty thing
 
11:41 AM
Because it's not necessary and again just produces noise.
You're not at the keyboard? Cool bro, no need to let me know, you'll get my message when you're back.
 
its actually a pretty battleproved concept of bots (like IRC channels)
 
Yea? In every serious channel I've been, people with auto-responders were asked to turn them off.
Rightly so.
 
even if they privmsg you ?
 
If you have a bouncer you'll get a log anyway.
@jAndy well, there's no privmsg here though.
That's the difference.
 
yeah what a pity by the way
 
11:44 AM
It would be cool for private messages maybe but not for a public asynchronous chat,
All of us already have a bouncer, it is integrated in the chat system, we'll never miss a message. :)
 
SEE! it would be so useful !
 
It's possible to add a preselected element by isotope? I have tried so, but that's not true: $('#isotope_filters').isotope({ filter: '.history' });
 
I know, right?
 
SEE! It would be an awesome feature
who do I need to murder
oh boy.. I started to drink green tee and earl grey instead of coffee a week ago
I tell you.. coffee looks like childs play against that shit
 
I love git so much
 
11:49 AM
why?
 
Because it makes sense and does things.
I especially like the second part o my reasoning.
 
I concur
 
I would say the same thing about Linux... COINCEDENCE ?
 
@jAndy Linux doesn't do many things that I want, though
 
Wait what ? Linux would even do your girlfriends morning work if you setup a blow-cron-tab
 
11:53 AM
I love git because it's just beautiful, not only because what it does. The way it works is just genius.
 
@OctavianDamiean say waht?
 
hai everyone i have some problem with jquery animation whenever i mouseover continuously my menu go back anyone help me my link jsfiddle.net/yDhYd/2
 
Which merge/diff client do you guys use, btw? SemanticMerge has been released, but it's a pretty steep price..
 
@mikedidthis I hope that was alright, I just know you're good, not sure if you want to do that or need to do that. :)
 
@srini use .finish() instead of .stop()
 
11:55 AM
@OctavianDamiean Sorry, I don't have content of 'what' it is that needs doing?
 
@mikedidthis oh, right sorry.
 
pass true, true (clear queue, jumpToEnd) as arguments to stop
 
43 mins ago, by Benjamin Gruenbaum
So, a friend wants a wordpress blog. They have a psd template and want someone to just take that and make a wordpress theme out of it. It has 2 pages in it - the main page (recent article previews, one from each category) and some theming, an articles page showing articles in a category. Anyone with experience - how much does/should that cost?
 
@jAndy is there a difference between stop(1,1) and finish() ?
 
11:56 AM
@OctavianDamiean thank you. Sadly I haven't touched WP in a while, but I probably know a guy / girl who could do it?
 
@Kippie if passed true for both, no
 
Yea, that's what I thought.
 
@Kippie @jAndy thanks
 
@Kippie I have to correct myself
It differs, however, in that .finish() also causes the CSS property of all queued animations to jump to their end values, as well.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I don't do WP, but I know a few people who maybe able to help. I can send / introduce them?
@OctavianDamiean but next tumblr theme is also my first octopress theme :D
 
11:58 AM
Oh nice!
 

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