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8:00 PM
...what does installing node have to do with node?
 
@rlemon you think I should make them look like keyboard arrows or just inlcude a little message or tooltip (I'll look into how to do that) and why have them have the same function as the keyboard arrows when they fade out
 
js room blog should be written using node.js as a backend not PHP and WP
 
Please tell me you're not that stupid
 
best meme ever!
 
@benlevywebdesign leave them as be. but currently if I click on the arrow nothing happens.
 
8:00 PM
@rlemon ahhh thats what u mean. that be true. I am not sure how to set up node on this server
I am using b-webhost.com
 
what server?
so you cannot ssh into it?
not a VPS?
 
@rlemon ok but they will still fade away
 
@benlevywebdesign sure. that all looks good. but I want to be able to click on them as well.
 
@Neal email them to setup a node.js and express server back them up with loads of comments about lower ..blah di blah..
 
also keyboard shortcuts are cool. but not intuitive right away. having a tooltip would help
 
8:01 PM
alright I'll figure all that out
 
@rlemon I should be able to ssh. it says it should here: b-webhost.com/reliable-hosting.php
 
@rlemon why that over the twitter bootstrap?
 
$ ssh Neal@host.com
$ password
$ sudo apt-get install nodejs # or sudo su && yum install nodejs
@Event_Horizon facepalm I'm not answering that.
 
100 score in darkslayer. What's your highest score? @copy
 
???
 
8:03 PM
darkslayer?
are you on my blog? :P
 
@rlemon It has a lot of the same stuff from what I'm seeing...I'm assuming less code?
 
Yeah.
 
just for adding color/theming, nevermind my retardedness
 
I emailed them @rlemon how I get ssh access
 
@Event_Horizon :( really. you are making me sad for this
 
8:05 PM
@Loktar what's your highest score?
 
Twitter Bootstrap is a CSS framework that allows customization via LESS variables or direct alteration of the LESS source files. BootSwatch is a collection of 'themes' for bootstrap which are nothing more than alterations to the base variables.less file.
 
lol not sure
 
@BadgerGirl Its Its over 9000!
 
^
I remember my kids playing it like crazy when they were done
reporting their high scores to me
 
@BadgerGirl link me that game :D
 
@Loktar I don't like "Santosh Patel"
 
im here :)
 
attempt... dude. they are kids. That is not an attempt that is a fucking kick ass game!
 
sorry just cooked and ate tea @Abhishek
 
@Loktar don't you ever play it?
 
8:07 PM
haha
@BadgerGirl nah not much :P
a few times after they made it
 
would you call a lego tower a nice 'attempt' at architecture? or would you just be amazed a 4 year old made Pisa
 
^
good point
yeah my son was pretty happy with himself
although he had help
 
thats a fair point @rlemon
 
I mean obviously the game is crap to a adult gamers standards... but then you look at the developers and see the point of the entire thing and the game turns from crap to amazingly well done.
 
yeah
 
8:09 PM
whats the game you are on about ?
 
If your dog wrote me a webpage but all it did was say "hello world" in marquee I'd still shit bricks.
 
 Hi,

there is a possibility to turn on jailed shell access for you on our shared server, however you can not install additional software on a shared server, you will need vps for this purpose.

Regards,
Paul C.
Hmmm
 
shared server === poor mans web hosting.
 
You could compile it yourself
 
I not a rich man. thats for sure lol
 
8:10 PM
(yawn)
 
@rlemon I know how to make it click scroll to top because I've done that before but not sure how to make it do the page "jump"
 
I used to use them, but very often too slow and needed VPS capabilities. I.e. power to alter the environment.
 
@Loktar 64 and then i got bored (x
but good job by kids
 
@benlevywebdesign whatever code you are using to make the keyboard entry do it; show us that.
 
btw that pushes me on urge to show off my first game , scratch version ... dont wanna re-write it on C++ ...ewwwwwwwwwwww
 
Hangman, then Simon iirc, then Snake - my games :(
 
my kids made it over the summer from a tutorial and some help
 
var pages = [].slice.call(document.querySelectorAll('.work'));
var finalI = -1;
window.addEventListener('scroll', function (){
var lowestTop = window.innerHeight;
var curElem;
for(var i = 0; i < pages.length; i++){
curElem = pages[i].getBoundingClientRect();
if(curElem.top + curElem.height > 0 && curElem.top < lowestTop){
lowestTop = curElem.top;
finalI = i;
}
}
}, false);
window.addEventListener('keydown', function (e){
if(e.keyCode === 37 && finalI > 0){
pages[finalI - 1].scrollIntoView();
}
else if(e.keyCode === 39 && finalI < pages.length - 1){
 
his kids who are all like < 8 iirc?
 
@rlemon do you have a server we can use for the blog?
 
8:11 PM
@copy let's make our kids do that.
 
not atm
 
Okay
 
awww thats cool!
i like games that are productions of hard work... thats more than i can do, and its by less than an 8 year old! Hes got potential there
 
c9.io/maniator/jsblog @rlemon has node installed. should be able to test
 
window.addEventListener('keydown', handle_side_move, false);
btn_left.addEventListener('click', function() {
	handle_side_move({e.keyCode:37});
}, false);
btn_right.addEventListener('click', function() {
	handle_side_move({e.keyCode:39});
}, false);
function handle_side_move(e) {
	if(e.keyCode === 37 && finalI > 0){
		pages[finalI - 1].scrollIntoView();
	}
	else if(e.keyCode === 39 && finalI < pages.length - 1){
		pages[finalI + 1].scrollIntoView();
	}
}
 
8:13 PM
But let's make kids first.
 
@benlevywebdesign check this out ^
 
ok
ah you just added in the buttons clicks also
 
1) removed the anon function from the event registration and moved it to handle_side_move
2) added listeners for the button clicks and assigned an anon function to them which calls handle_side_move and passes in the appropriate keycode to simulate a keyboard event.
however this is only one of many approaches on this
I didn't want to change your code too much
errrr
 
so what do I do replace this with what I have
 
{e.keyCode:39}  // should be
{keyCode:39}
 
8:16 PM
@Loktar just for u :P
i am doing an upload -_- , which is shameful (XD)
 
an upload?
 
on scratch lol
 
I'll also need to change "btn_left" and "btn_right" to what I have the "buttons" called right
 
oh cool
 
my first scratch game :P when i was about 2 year younger then amaan is now
 
8:17 PM
hah nice
 
so what should I do with the current code?
 
it sucks thogh :P
 
@benlevywebdesign open fire on it with a Kalashnikov 47
 
@benlevywebdesign pastie.org/5656773
 
8:18 PM
Hi everybody
 
fuck I want a poutine now.
 
crap scratch.mit.edu is down -_-
 
@MikeBoutin I blame you
outin in your name made me thing poutine.... now i'm hungry.
 
@rlemon damn... i forgot to start my fries this morning
sry man
 
:(
 
8:19 PM
XD
zup?
what's the problem
 
thats it! NO ONE ANSWER THIS GUYS QUESTIONS! HE DIDNT BRING ME FRIES WITH CHEESE AND GRAVY!!
 
how you know im from qc?
lol
or u just talking about poutine
XD
 
poutine. but you just seemingly admitted to being from QC
 
@rlemon do I need to change "btn_left" and "btn_right" to anything different?
 
Error: Cannot find module 'front-matter'
    at Function.Module._resolveFilename (module.js:338:15)
    at Function.Module._load (module.js:280:25)
    at Module.require (module.js:362:17)
    at require (module.js:378:17)
    at Object. (/var/lib/stickshift/0ec377ced9f4413e88fa357ec150eeb4/app-root/data/373397/lib/poet.js:3:14)
    at Module._compile (module.js:449:26)
    at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:467:10)
    at Module.load (module.js:356:32)
    at Function.Module._load (module.js:312:12)
That's from poet
 
8:21 PM
right @rlemon... im coding this thing on codepen with ext links to the bootstrap files,.... i wont be long
 
I'm only 6 hours away from you, don't mess around ok?
 
why no worky?... c9.io/maniator/poet
 
@rlemon im a 6foot3 farmer man
 
@Neal talk to Florian or SomeKittens. I have had 0 luck with node.js thus far (albeit I like the idea of using it)
@MikeBoutin they have farms in Quebec
 
sure
lol
Quebec is very small
 
8:22 PM
I've been to many of them
 
!!/tell neal google "poet Cannot find module 'front-matter'"
 
@rlemon :-P I use node for thing in office. I like my wordpress. no dissing :-P
 
@neal The Google contains no such knowledge
 
wut?!
 
we are just 8 millions in the entire province
 
8:23 PM
No?
 
@Neal problem with WP is that you are a programmer and don't need it anymore. I would laugh at the F1 guy who still put training wheels on his bicycle.
@MikeBoutin wut?
7.6mil last I heard.
don't try to make yourselves seem all big shot
 
@rlemon i round it
 
:P
 
problem is with me im not a programmer, but can work WP enough to get my head round it :p
 
hahaha
im ok with all this empty spaces ^^
 
8:24 PM
@rlemon :-P bahh. why recreate the wheel?
 
well you got nothing on the ~13 million in Ontario
 
@rlemon no need to change the "btn_left" and right one?
 
@Neal invalid arguments are invalid.
 
its like code, less it had, faster it goes
 
8:25 PM
@benlevywebdesign you need to make them point to the applicable HTML Elements..
 
Ahem: NYS Pop: 19,465,197
 
(when its good coding)
@phenomnomnominal LOL the guy'face
 
I hate it when our hat starts squabbling.
 
Hi,

I've enabled ssh for your account and you can use it via 65321 port, but as I've said before it is impossible to install node.js on our shared server. Our shared servers are using apache-php-mysql by design, so unfortunately you will need a VPS server to deploy your own custom infrastructure.

We don't have any VPS available for public use now but will launch them some time during this week, if you like you can move to a affordable vps and we will gladly provide you with a discount. However VPS prices will be around $10/month average. So its up to you to decide if this solution is suit
 
Blue cheese ... yummy!
 
8:26 PM
Anyone good with unix? Got a script trying to run JsTestDriver and PhantomJS in Travis-CI but I get:
./test/server.sh: 21: ./test/server.sh: [[: not found

Line 21:
if [[ $COMMAND == "start" ]]; then
 
do someone know if a protocol-independent url is longer to load or it didn't change anything? stackoverflow.com/questions/954327/…
 
booo
 
@MikeBoutin problem with QC (I have) is that everyone expects me to speak french. Got a lot of dirty looks when I asked for something in english with no obvious french accent (was in Laval iirc)
 
@rlemon ppl are dumbs... fuck french
this language sucks
 
English is an awesome yet horribly convoluted language. Everyone should know it. Also Chinese and German.
 
8:27 PM
indeed it does. mostly because many people speaking it refuse to speak english even if the other one doesn't speak french
 
i'm french, my english grammar is a little bad... but english rocks
@rlemon why german?
 
Lots of business in Germany. Helps to know it.
 
because we are going to become the new world power in a few years!
 
Germany is a global player.
 
8:28 PM
Spanish if you do business with south america or the states.
 
heh just thought of a funny office prank
I signed the birthday cards here with random ass phrases
and signed other peoples names
 
if you do business in Europe you should know German
 
" I like a warm breeze on my face" - Dustin
"Bathrooms make me uncomfortable" - Phil
 
@rlemon so like scrolToLeft.addEventListener('click', function()...
 
^ there is no phil in the office.
/me is amused easily
 
8:29 PM
"Hahaha, you're getting old!" - Mom
@benlevywebdesign if that is the element.
 
I did that
 
then yes
 
i want to learn chinese soon
 
var elm = document.getElementById('id');
elm.addEventListener(...);
 
really soon, ill see about german after ;)
 
8:30 PM
my first game ever (XD) , on any web-platform
 
german will be much easier
 
I started learning polish. The offending sounds (sounds not used in english but in slavic languages) were hard to handle at first.
 
@ThiefMaster but china will control the world soon
 
I still cannot spell it, but I can speak it conversationally
 
i took one year of chinese in high school just for fun.. especially the glyphs are a pita
 
8:31 PM
@MikeBoutin China can't even control themselves. Don't kid.
 
i still know how to call someone "cockroach poop" though :p
 
@MikeBoutin if thtas so then we will have 1% of people having 99% of money and power
and the rest will die in poverty
 
@Abhishek thats not bad
 
in German I know "shit head", "shit", and "head"
 
they are too much, but we won't eternise in politicals views
 
8:32 PM
I survived 18 seconds!
 
How much is a "good" price for a VPS?
 
:D
@Loktar you know u can press space to fire a cannon
 
$40-80 month
 
well eye beam
 
@Abhishek oh nice! lol
 
8:32 PM
@Neal GoDaddy has good VPS prices. I use them as a comparison when shopping
 
@Abhishek I lasted a minute. :(
 
@rlemon link?
 
do someone know about my question?
 
nm
 
6 mins ago, by Mike Boutin
do someone know if a protocol-independent url is longer to load or it didn't change anything? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/954327/hidden-features-of-html#answer-960111
 
8:32 PM
@Neal Depends, ranging from 8 € to 20 €.
 
@MikeBoutin depends on the browser.
 
browsers guess the protocol if you do not provide one
then they test the protocol they guessed and if nothing move to the next (iirc)
 
@BadgerGirl my higest is probably 30 minutes :D
 
its a bit shakey going from left to right
but pretty cool man
 
while testing it i found out that scratch is slowest language to existance :P that trick works like crazy as ha ck
 
unfortunately they don't @rlemon. at least firefox just fails when i copy&paste a link and the h of http:// is missing
 
@ThiefMaster I said nm :-P
 
@rlemon ...nothing check here
 
So $10/mo is good?
 
8:34 PM
@Neal depends on what they are offering. and didn't they say "ten more"
 
@rlemon so is it a good pratice to user protocol free urls?
 
@rlemon Yea, I am asking for the specs right now :-)
 
I know paul irish used it to load jquery
 
> each VPS offers 3 dedicated IPs
^ worth the money when I saw that
 
@MikeBoutin I think Google recommend it
 
8:35 PM
Don't like GoDaddy business practices.. but shit.. it's cheap stable VPS hosting.
 
@MikeBoutin cdnjs.com recommends omitting the protocol.
 
eff godaddy
 
@ThiefMaster omitted vs bad is not the same.
 
Hostgator!
 
I can make up a dumb protocol and pass that in.
 
8:36 PM
tx guys
 
serve up the page that way
 
@rlemon idk
 
rlemonrocks://somepage.suckit
 
@rlemon hmmm
 
8:36 PM
@rlemon Right, I don't quite understand the point though.
 
there is none.
but I can do it.
 
Oh, yea.
 
@Loktar fakk... this is what you use?
 
@rlemon what did I do wrong?
 
you can verify speed and stability?
 
8:37 PM
for my shared hosting I use hostgator
its always been perfect
 
@ben busy now i'll deal with you later :P
 
I use softlayer for my dedicated server, thats who hostgator uses for their backbone
 
ahh, shared.
 
@Loktar b-webhost works great for me (for the price too!)
 
thats cool
 
8:38 PM
Hi Neal,

Sure, we'll send you specs before proceeding and wait for your decision. Specs will be sent some time during next few hours.

Regards,
Paul C.
w00t
 
Hetzner.com all the way.
 
specs for what
 
I'm sure @ThiefMaster will agree.
 
if its for a vps.. that should all be listed for you to shop from on the site
 
@Loktar VPS
 
8:38 PM
iPage i got shared from (horrible)
GoDaddy work site uses shared (not bad, still pretty bad)
GoDaddy play server VPS for work (incredibly fast all considering, but Fedora 14... quite dated)
 
yeah. no idea how good their VPSes are though
 
idk sounds like you're dealing with a small company
 
I would be their 1st customer. They are starting VPS in beta this week.
 
dude..
 
@FlorianMargaine what do you see when u type
 
8:39 PM
I am using their shared plan atm
 
but if you can get a dedicated one for ~20€ i don't see a big point in a vps anyway
 
idk if id go for that tbh
 
@ThiefMaster Indeed
 
going home, see ya guys
 
8:39 PM
being the first customer could be rough
 
@Abhishek lol u bought that url?
 
@ThiefMaster +1
 
ty!
 
@ThiefMaster for hosting a blog, no. for hosting something like lememe... taking imgur out of the equation... yea
 
@Neal Neal did
 
8:39 PM
and theres TONS of companies that offer vps that are tried and true
 
it could. but it could also mean great discounts :-)
 
or shared + AWS cloud storage
 
^
 
true, if it's only the blog it would usually be overkill
 
My next server is going to be colocated
 
8:40 PM
but when you add irc bots, shoutcasts, etc...
 
if you have a blog do shared..
 
@Loktar i will start my fries for the next time, making a rainbow of poutine for everyone
XD
 
you wont be geting enough traffic to really need a vps tbh
 
@Neal omg my bad
 
@Loktar I have all my sites currently pointing to one shared server.
 
8:40 PM
shared hosting is always annoying. at least if you don't want just standard apache+php+mysql
 
@Abhishek eh?
 
@ThiefMaster Game servers
 
I didnt need higher than shared until I was getting around 12k uniques per day
 
javascriptroom.com <- our new home
 
@rlemon i will start my fries for the next time, making a rainbow of poutine for everyone
 
8:40 PM
good luck finding shared hosting that supports e.g. python or nodejs
 
i messed with the url's but then i am too sleepy
 
(besides heroku etc)
 
@Abhishek thats my url :-P U NO OWN THAT
 
@ThiefMaster luck*
 
well what I'm thinking right now is: Buy a VPS from GoDaddy or whoever for 3 years (drop them like $400 or something) then sign up for AWS cloud storage that charges you per KB not per month... then I can only fallback on it if my bandwidth runs up for the month.... I suppose... fakk
 
8:41 PM
err yes
 
@Neal meh i got confused i was linking flo to there
 
@ThiefMaster i use c9.io to test node. it is pretty cool
 
@rlemon maybe for something major, but for a blog.. better to just save the money
 
I want one server that will host a number of domains including lememe and it's images. But i think I will have to put the images on a cloud storage for performance reasons.
 
like I said I ran zg.net on shared until it was hitting 12 thousand uniques per day.
 
8:41 PM
@Loktar blog, git, lemon meme, projects page, chat, pretty much anything I want to let loose into the wild.
 
@rlemon well i have a go-daddy dedic
iirc
 
Which equated to half a million or so page views.
 
I would like a box that I could use for all of that (online)
 
@rlemon just get a better connection with static Ip :D
and use one of ur cabinet antiques :D
 
I was using nearlyfreespeach... but it got very costly
 
8:42 PM
VPS is not expensive enough to penny pinch on these options (IMO)
 
yea
 
I would rather do slight overkill than shoot myself in the foot down the line.
 
vps still isnt bad
gets pricey once you go dedicated
 
ohh yea
 
8:43 PM
serverpronto's staff is quite awesome
they installed nodejs v 0.4 for us on centos
 
then it jumps to a minimum of 100 per month for a shite server
 
VPS is like $400 for 3 years with really good options
 
0.4? :o
 
I forgot to pay them (they do cost based on bandwidth) and lost all the sites i had since 2007... no warning
 
I pay around 330 a month for mine :?
 
8:43 PM
updating python and stuff which would of took us about a day :P
 
stupid nearlyfreespeach
 
@ThiefMaster about an year ago :P
 
Now blipit.net is down :-(
 
k ps gn
 
@rlemon I really only need the right one to work cause at the top there is no place to go but down lol
 
8:46 PM
@Loktar dedicated..
> Fedora Version 14 is the leading-edge version of Linux, offering the latest features and capabilities. Recommended for advanced Linux administrators.
14 is the 'leading edge'
are they not relaseing 18 any day now?
 
!!/google fedoraproject
 
6 days... yup
ugh, this is what makes me not want to go with godaddy
never used centOS
 
its not bad
i use it on my dedi
 
8:49 PM
if I can tinker with Fedora and mostly use Debian derivatives I will be ok on cent?
 
yeah I imagine so
 
If you can handle Fedora yes.
 
im a linux noob
 
someone got me to work on some shit on a openSUSE install (enterprise BS) and it was a living nightmare
 
and I can do whatever I need to on it
 
8:50 PM
@OctavianDamiean 'Tinker' -> meaning I can run basic unix commands, root, and install shit.
also start and stop appropriate services.
 
@BadgerGirl <3
 
CentOS 6 vs Fedora 14.... Anyone?
 
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
 
@copy I think @BadgerGirl got on your pc again :P hehe
lol
 
Oh, I had such a great session of Awesomenauts
 
8:51 PM
hehe
 
33 secs ago, by Badger Girl
Delete that. He doesn't have to know.
 
It was just me and this other human. All other bots
 
@BadgerGirl sorry i'm a bastard like this
 
We're all mean.
Get used to it.
 
I won even though we were losing :D
 
8:52 PM
@AmaanCheval well if you are ever up when i'm off work I'll play a few rounds with you
on your team :P
 
Hahaha
You leave in about another hour, right?
 
4pm here - leave work at 5pm - half hour ride home to 45 mins depending on traffic.
 
@rlemon centos here.
 
you are what? 11 hours different?
 
Ah. Not very likely I will be
I'm GMT+530
 
8:53 PM
10.5
GMT-5
I WAS CLOSE!
 
@rlemon, thanks for the lecture at youtube, it was a nice one, though as the guy promised he lack a sense of humor. :)
 
@rlemon good job.
 
@rlemon Thanks bro
 
Congratulations! tobeornoto.be is available!
LOL
 
8:57 PM
I found css-tricks being a good starting point to the css world, do you guys have another suggestions?
 
@gdoron codepen.io learn by example
@BadgerGirl I is winner!
 

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