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4:00 PM
@tereško Well, of course. But "popular" does not necessarily mean "smart". That was mostly my point.
 
What would you all recommend for a UI framework for javascript/html5?
 
for what task ?
@metal_fan talking from my personal experience , yes , they were
 
Just for some UI widgets, right now I've been working with kendo UI and was looking for some alternatives.
 
jquery is the most popular in the world today
 
@metal_fan and the worst aswell
@CBredlow CSS 3 & HTML5 native ;-)
 
4:04 PM
A mapping framework I'm using has dojo inside of it
@Darkyen aww that means I have to learn that stuff
 
@Darkyen worst because of what?
 
@metal_fan X-browser memory leaks , slow speed , supports the oldest browser but becomes several times slower then DOM
 
@CBredlow o noez u haz 2 lrn sumthn
 
@copy Yes?
 
creates you illusion that you are a master of code but leaves you messed up with errors that come from the core of javascript
 
4:05 PM
@Darkyen but this is a library. it can't be faster that DOM itself
 
@metal_fan but it can be and should be faster then it is :P
 
@Darkyen oh no, it's definitely not the worst
 
Raynos' Dom-shim is much faster then jQuery :P
@Zirak yeah but the worst popular library for sure!
 
@Darkyen but it's not that easy to implement such "feature"
 
@Darkyen Well, I guess I might as well learn it, is there any recommendations on where to start?
 
4:07 PM
ExtJS
 
it is pointless
he will not listen
 
true .
 
he KNOWS that jquery is the best , same way as he KNOWS that you all are wrong
 
haha
 
lol no. I'm just asking
 
4:08 PM
you asked only to affirm your conviction
 
w00t 48K even!
:-)
yAy!









:-)
 
cognitive dissonance .. look it up
 
@Zirak I need 6 md5 blocks generated by HashClash to get a collision, it takes about 1 day per block on my lame machine. Can you help me out ?
 
okay @tereško which js framework do you use for your apps?
 
none
 
4:10 PM
(I use jQuery (if anybody cares))
 
how much of it do you actually use ?
 
@copy I can dedicate my other computer for it as well. Whadya need me to run?
 
@Neal I think I'm spending too much time with C#.. I read that as a cast and almost said it was wrong. :(
 
jQuery is much like frieza from dragonballz , just an illusion of power
 
hi
 
4:11 PM
@AndréSilva :-P
 
@tereško even if you need to build something very quick? still none?
 
And the project I started
 
@Moshe shalom Moshe!
 
@metal_fan especially then
 
4:12 PM
@tereško I think i use a lot of it. many different aspects (mainly for ui and ajax components)
 
frameworks pay of only in large projects, where you have multiple people working on same codebase
 
Jquery is slow because of Sizzle CSS selector engine
 
@metal_fan ehhh -> not rly...
 
@Darkyen if you need to support older browsers, the illusion gets pretty real
 
@copy Which is? Whadya need to compute?
 
4:14 PM
@GNi33 i do support old browsers without it
 
cool the new dev thinks a video card is a vga adapter.
 
CHROME FRAME OR NO GO BITCH!
 
lol how random of a name is that?
 
@Zirak Gimme a second
 
@Loktar uh oh
 
4:15 PM
"guys my vga adapter is broken"
 
Good question you have there @Moshe
 
wat?
 
@Loktar lulwat
 
thanks
 
4:17 PM
@Loktar Gamepad advice
 
@Moshe any final answer that you think is the reason for the withing?
 
pls
 
@Neal congrats ok 48K!
 
@SimonSarris ^_^ thanks
 
@Neal send us all beers !
 
its party time
 
WinCE :(
 
don't know why that is though
 
@Moshe so Y U NOT SELECT IT? :-P
 
:wince @ WinCE:
:-P
 
4:18 PM
to all:
6
Q: Why does Chrome use `with` for inline events

MosheIf you take a look at this fiddle in Chrome and click the Trigger text with the js console open you will see this: What is the reason of all those with blocks and what is it's value?

 
I'm hoping someone else may give a better answer, or explain why that behavior is built in
 
@copy Just set them as input files and run away?
 
^ anyone know a reason aside from @Pointy's answer?
 
@Neal congrats on your 48 k
Jon Skeet, Reading, United Kingdom
523k 160 2646 4056
 
@Zirak Yes, click buttons until it's done. code.google.com/p/hashclash/wiki/GUI_Help
 
4:19 PM
you are just 480k behind jon skeet :D
 
@Darkyen :-P a good even number ^_^
 
insane
 
hi,
 
I wonder if jon skeet has a day job or not
 
man you guys are cruel :P
 
4:20 PM
@Darkyen he works for google
 
> Currently a software engineer at Google, London.
 
weird that hed use his school picture for an avatar
just sayin.
 
@Neal really free person
 
anyone use verimail.js i have few questions about it ? thanks
 
@Darkyen Y U POST LINK TO HIS PROFILE BUT NO LOOK AT HIS PROFILE?!?!?!!?!?!?!
 
4:21 PM
@rlemon LOL
 
@rlemon i did saw that
but i really doubt he even works :P
look at his answers dude every single day
about a ton !
@JonSkeet WHY U NO CHAT ?
 
because hes answering questions
 
you guys know about greensock? greensock.com
 
@JonSkeet if we keep pinging you in here... will your inbox flood with the word "javascript" and secretly make you want to join us and chat? Huh? Huh @JonSkeet
@JonSkeet...
 
@rlemon ummm he wont get pinged...
 
4:23 PM
not a ping - but a notification
in his inbox
like I said
 
He can only get a notification if he was in chat at some point
which he wasnt
so nothing. (I believe)
 
@Darkyen I'm sure you post much more comments here than John post answers. Do you even work ?
 
I get notifications all the time for messages when i'm not here
 
There would be a mass nerdgasm if @JonSkeet showed up here.
 
@rlemon thats bc u are a part of this room
 
4:23 PM
do you even lift?!
 
He is not
 
@Neal you're wrong.
 
meh I wouldnt care if he showed up lol
 
I don't care what reasoning you have
 
no9
hello
 
4:23 PM
@rlemon prove me wrong
 
you are wrong
 
if Sylvester Stallone did id care :P
 
Sam
^ proven
 
STOP PISSING IN MY EAR AND TELLING ME ITS RAINING!
 
@dystroy a comment = 10ms
a jon skeet answer = atleast 1-10 minutes
 
no9
4:24 PM
i know this is a js channel, but im sure you guys are masters in CSS
0
Q: CSS box-shadow in IE6,7,8

no9I know that its not supported ... i tried with PIE. I have put the PIE.htc file in same folder as CSS is and in the IMAGE folder. The images get loaded with no problem using the "../images/image.png" path. Here is the code: .ma-footer-container { background: #fff; margin:0px auto; color: #333...

 
Hello members , iam using PDF.js and i cant run even the Hello world example , when i load it , it asks me to download the file , instead of rendering it , what am i doing wrong ?
 
@no9 use pie.js
 
@user1537158 you are using PDF.js.
 
and and and
 
no9
eeeerm
 
4:25 PM
yes @Neal
 
no9
what?
 
I saw IE6/7/8 and no longer like you no9... also Y no9?!?!?!?!
 
@no9 pie.js or pie.htc
has problems
 
@user1537158 yes. that is what is wrong.
 
while loading
the best is to put pie.css in root
 
no9
4:25 PM
im frustrated
 
and use absolute path :P
 
what is wrong ? @Neal ?
 
no9
@Darkyen i tried everything
 
!!/stat no9
 
@no9 even the correct mime-path ?
 
4:26 PM
@rlemon Y U NO MAEK SENSE!? Could not understand stat no9
 
if so... try using the js api for pie
 
no9
@rlemon :P
 
@rlemon no9 has 819 reputation, earned 0 rep today, asked 111 questions, gave 16 answers, for a q:a ratio of 111:16.
 
no9
@Darkyen well ... im not sure now :)
 
!!/stat Neal
 
4:26 PM
@Neal Neal has 48010 reputation, earned 60 rep today, asked 86 questions, gave 2282 answers, for a q:a ratio of 43:1141.
 
Neal if your stating yourself you don't need a name
 
whoa.
 
!!/stat
 
@rlemon rlemon has 6640 reputation, earned 0 rep today, asked 71 questions, gave 348 answers, for a q:a ratio of 71:348.
 
Sam
@Neal You know, I've tried some JS PDF rendering libraries out there and none seems good. PDF.js is the best I tried. Really buggy with some displays, but seemed ok for most cases.
 
4:27 PM
did not know that @rlemon
 
@SOChatBot 71 questions?
!!/stat
 
lol I was just playing with him @Sam
 
@AmaanCheval Amaan Cheval has 5008 reputation, earned 0 rep today, asked 8 questions, gave 213 answers, for a q:a ratio of 8:213.
 
!!/stat
 
@sam can you help a little problem with PDF.js ?
 
4:27 PM
@dystroy dystroy has 46269 reputation, earned 237 rep today, asked 27 questions, gave 2006 answers, for a q:a ratio of 27:2006.
 
Sam
Oh, sorry @Neal, I have Aspergers, can't get sarcasm.
 
@Loktar it's been 2 hours and the DNS hasn't propagated yet. it's like using snail mail... it's so painful.
 
Hahaha
 
@Sam idk if that is true... unless there are multiple asberger parts. but whatever
 
no9
soooo guys If some1 has an ide how to get box-shadow working in freakin ie6,7,8 .. dony be shy ...
 
4:28 PM
@rlemon to which site?
 
Sam
@user1537158 I think you have a wrong path in your source.
 
are you using Google's dns @rlemon?
 
Your mom.
 
@no9 use a shim
 
4:29 PM
^ I use that to check
 
Sam
@Neal I was being sarcastic
 
this weekend I noticed 8.8.8.8 was crazy slow
 
@Loktar yes, and i've already cleared my google cache
 
Sam
(Here is when you say "Well, I stole your face")
 
so I updated to my local dns and it had already changed for me
 
no9
4:29 PM
@Neal a shimwhat?
 
@Neal do you have a better PDF rendering library that i can use ? any suggestions ?
 
@no9 just don't do it, who gives a damn
 
whats the site @rlemon?
 
old browser -> less bling-bling
 
no9
4:30 PM
@GNi33 well I do .. because the site looks ugly if box-shadow isnt there
 
HTML5Shiv is a JavaScript workaround, discovered by Sjoerd Visscher, to enable styling of HTML5 elements in versions of Internet Explorer prior to version 9, which do not allow unknown elements to be styled without JavaScript. While some people refer to it as "HTML5Shim" with respect to shim (computing), there is no real difference between the names and as noted in the code repository, the only difference is that "one has an m and one has a v - that's it." Internet Explorer compatibility and version usage Prior to version 9 of Internet Explorer there was little to no support for HTML...
 
whats it supposed to point to?
 
WEBSITES DO NOT NEED TO LOOK THE SAME ON ALL BROWSERS! OLD VERSIONS DONT NEED BLING -> USERS NEED INCENTIVE TO UPGRADE!
 
all of them are pointing to 97.74.126.218 for me
 
no9
@GNi33 the problem is that people dont know that ...
 
4:30 PM
watch this
awesome video. will help you
 
@Loktar strange, last night I made some changes and all pointed properlly
 
@no9 then try to provide some kind of fallback, like a border or something
 
http://beta.lemonmeme.com is my lememe
http://lemonmeme.com/ is the blink gallery
 
no9
only jack herer can help me now...
 
4:31 PM
pie.htc is just a PITA, to be honest
 
blog.lemonmeme.com should be "Hello Blog!"
 
they work fine for me
 
In web development, Modernizr is a small JavaScript library that detects the availability of native implementations for next-generation Web Technologies. These technologies are new features that stem from the ongoing HTML5 and CSS 3 specifications. Overview Many HTML5 and CSS 3 features are already implemented in at least one major browser. Modernizr tells you whether the current browser has implemented a given feature. This lets developers take advantage of new features that browsers support, yet create fallbacks for browsers that lack support. Modernizr 2.0 was a .net Award 2011 winne...
 
screws up more than it fixes
 
yep
 
4:32 PM
@Sam can you help out a little with PDF.js issue ?
 
ok now paste.lemonmeme.com what do you see?
 
@rlemon blink site.
 
image gallery, with blinking
 
ok, still waiting then
 
i see abishek
 
Sam
4:32 PM
@user1537158 don't ask to ask.
 
it's the site i'm waiting on
 
no9
@GNi33 thats an option ... i just have to push the IF in like 50 places :)
 
whats it supposed to be?
 
wonders did he restart apache?
 
lol tyeah
 
4:32 PM
@Loktar will be simple paste service for me to use
and all others
 
dns propagation isnt required for subdomain pointing fyi
 
@Sam , iam using PDF.js and i cant run even the Hello world example , when i load it , it asks me to download the file , instead of rendering it , what am i doing wrong ?
 
@no9 no, you don't actually
 
@Loktar takes a bit for the a name entry
 
if the name server stayed the same it doesnt matter
 
4:33 PM
conditional comments with a html-opening tag that has a .ie-8 - class
 
yeah but the name server is still the authoritative one
 
I assume I needed to add a a name for all subdomains
 
yeah you do, but sub domains generally dont need to propagate
 
Sam
@user1537158 Already told you, maybe a bad path in your source. If it is not that, then you should ask a question in SO with more details.
 
ohh you SOB!!! I've been in here bitching and I forgot to restart fucking apache!
 
4:34 PM
hah!
 
no9
@GNi33 ooook ... i need to process that in my low level positronic matrix...
 
@rlemon HA Y U NO RESTART APACHE!!
 
@Neal because you touch yourself at night.
 
@rlemon I think we have through this before.... Deja vu anyone?
 
Stupid rlemon is stupid... :(
 
4:35 PM
meh it happens
 
can I swap jQuery out for zepto and go on with my day, or would i have to spend the rest of the day changing 1000s of lines of code?
 
Jan 10 at 21:44, by rlemon
@Neal Because you touch yourself at night!
 
@Neal I'm not gonna stop commenting until you learn "HANDS ABOVE THE COVERS MISTER!"
 
@rlemon naaah
 
@rlemon nginxxxxxxxxx
 
no9
4:36 PM
DAAAD ... DAAAD .. whats a transvestite?
 
this is the part where I force my views on you!
 
@Sam , the issue is that even if i open the demo given on github , it doesnt render pdf , it asks me to download , is that a bug on their end , or is it something with my browser ?
 
@SimonSarris possibly later. I'm lazy and apache was on the server already
 
@bushdiver it should work, shouldn't it? never used zepto actually
 
no9
DAD: Ask your mom ... he knows.
 
4:37 PM
However I do wanna get my node.js on so hard.
 
API is the same from what i know
 
Okay, I think I should sign out, reading this and trying not to laugh is killing me.
 
Sam
@user1537158 Works fine for me. Try clearing the cache or maybe another browser.
 
sure , thanks for the help @Sam appreciate it :)
 
@rlemon that somehow sounds freaking dirty
 
4:38 PM
ever star too long at httpd.conf?
It's like the matrix
 
@GNi33 I guess I'll just try it and find out, what I was worried about was it working for now.. and then forgetting about it.. and then someday in the future spending countless hours stuck on an inane bug.. and then remembering zeepptoooo god damnit
 
@rlemon Gaze too long into the httpd.conf, and the httpd.conf gazes back.
 
well, the possibility of some hidden bugs is there of course
i'd just cache the fuck out of jquery and stick with it
 
trying to slim down a bloated mobile app somehow..
 
how do I constantly crash fucking putty
 
Sam
4:40 PM
@user1537158 Nevermind. Just remeber to read this the following time you ask: stackoverflow.com/questions/how-to-ask
 
type really really fast inserting stuff along the way and then wait for the terminal to catch up only to watch it hard crash
 
my putty never crashes
it even bounces
and can copy newspaper pictures
 
Is console.log the same as a System.out.print in java? Or at least similar?
 
@CBredlow Yes, it's the same
 
Just trying to relate concepts to things that I know
 
4:44 PM
@Neal It's called reading the question. That wasn't a Java question.
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:7194056 I think @rlemon said to me some time ago something like this. Javascript : Java :: Carpet : Car
 
seriously... i have had putty crash like 10 times on me now while in vim
 
HE'S ASKING IF THE PRINT FUNCTION IN JAVASCRIPT IS THE SAME AS JAVA!
 
Sam
So they are not the same?
 
okay, I'll rephrase is console.log a similar function to printf in C
 
4:46 PM
The answer is yes.
 
They are similar. console.log() is much more powerful as it can log nested objects etc in a nice way
 
Okay, thank you
 
@CBredlow no. it is not. Unless I am misunderstanding what you are asking...
 
Neal is wrong
rlemon is right
 
4:47 PM
Neal, don't make me bin again. You are providing incorrect info and are being belligerent while you do so.
 
pickles are awesome!
 
@rlemon ok. that is the correct response. not to bin everything!
@SomeKittens YOU ARE BEING "BELIGERENT" by binning my answers.
I misunderstood
the question needed fleshing out
 
Sorry if my phrasing was wrong
 
don't bin stuff when it need not be binned....
 
no, the question was understood by all but you
 
4:48 PM
No, it didn't. Rlemon, ThiefMaster and I understood it
 
now you're whining like a child. drop it people.
 
@CBredlow, Don't worry about it.
That was actually a very good question
 
@CBredlow this is nothing against you. I misunderstood the Q. there was no reason for @SomeKittens to bin all my comments.
I am allowed to be wrong
this is a chatroom.
 
I'm all for arguments / discussions / etc - but whining... I have a girlfriend for that - I don't need it over-flowing into my escape
 
@rlemon lol as am I (I have a wife) but still no reason to bin parts of a discussion.....
whatever....
 
4:49 PM
I wish I could flag for "Being a useless pansy"
 
I bin random shit because I can. Daily power trip === I don't steal candy from little kids at the park and push them in the sand to make my self feel better about my life.
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now no one will know where he went... ohhh tee hee I am so evil
 
MOOO HAHAHAHA
 
anyone else have putty locking on you when in VIM?
 
lol @ that flag
 
aww who got flagged?
 
4:52 PM
@rlemon ehhhh multiple windows?
 
@Neal not even. single session single file open ..
 
Some one flagged I wish I could flag for "Being a useless pansy"
 
@rlemon hmmm odd.
 
@rlemon C-q
 
I type fast and insert large blocks... flinging commands like a monkey hurling poo
 
4:52 PM
you mistyped C-s
 
Sam
Let a be this room's rules and b the bot commands. Where can I read a and b?
 
That's why I do not use VIM lol
!!/commands
 
@Neal Command commands does not exist.
 
@DaveRandom ohh, I can understand that. Sounds too much like a work request.
 
!!/help
 
Also Neal doesn't like it when people are mean too him. Guess what neal.... THE INTERNET IS MEAN!
unless you are a kitten
 
!!/listcommands
 
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@Sam ^
 
!!/tell Sam help
 
Sam
:C not bad. Thanks :) And what about a ?
 
and rules: rules.javascriptroom.com @Sam
 
@rlemon :-P
 
rules page is WIP
 
Sam
4:54 PM
Perfect
 
@rlemon WIP?
 
a very forgotten about WIP
 
oooo nm "Work in progress" duuuuh
 
Sam
Oh shit, I lost :c
 
:P
you sure did
 
4:55 PM
@Sam THE GAME ?
 
Sam
@Neal yep.
 
why the hate for lanadelrey?
 
I lost the game.
flasdjkkl
 
@Sam Hi! I'm rlemon. Here on SO Javascript Chat (and others) I'm known as the resident troll. I make funny images, make people lose the game, and provide general comedy. I also rage-train from time to time and write some cool js and css here and there. I enjoy long walks on the beach and a candle lit... ohh wait.. wrong site.
 
Sam
4:57 PM
@Neal Where I come from, we have the rule that if you lost the game, then you have a 30 minute immunity. So, technically I didn't lose again.
 
IN SOVIET RUSSIA GAME LOSE YOU!
 
Sam
Long bio. @rlemon. Here's mine: I'm Sam, not a potato.
(nor a lemon, too)
 
I Am a lemon..
 
Sam
Or just a lemon?
 
you're a dick.
 
4:59 PM
 
Sam
How did you guess?
 
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