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16:00
The irony kills me. http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ is down. #downforeveryoneorjustme but how do I know it's not just me?
ohh yea. first to tweet about it
take that sukkas
ninja'd
Marko , you there ??
@rlemon nope
Is http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ down for everyone? Or just me?
@rlemon @Loktar doj.me
Where do you think I heard about it from :P
even retweeted before you tweeted OH NINJAD THE NINJA
@TheDarkKnight Marko told me to tell you he stepped out. but if you wait around for a minute or two he might be back. don't contact him, he'll contact you.
16:01
@Loktar lol
@rlemon You sound like a drug dealer
lol
Arnold makes everything comical
yeah he does, I read it in his voice even
16:03
but bitch is either really short or "BIIIIAAAATTTCCCCHHHHHH HHHHHH ARGGGGG"
@Loktar I read dbz qoutes in dbz voice
Guys i need some help . I am trying to print a pdf on click of a button . The print dialog comes up here , but all i get in the preview is the html content and not the pdf preview. My code looks like this :

<input type="submit" class="btn-red" value="Print"
name="Submit" id="printbtn"
onclick="printPDF('http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf')" />

function printPDF(pdfUrl)
{

if ((navigator.appName == 'Microsoft Internet Explorer') )
window.print(pdfUrl,"_self");
else
{
var w = window.open(pdfUrl,"_self");
its worse :-|
sometimes I just want to comment on questions and say who fucking cares!
man he used to be so jacked. I almost forgot about jacked arnold.
16:04
yeah hes crazy
SO giant..
lol, ok back to work.
damn arnold? If I saw you in a dark alley looking like this I might mug you!
@rlemon That awkward moment when robert's jokes start becoming boring
who are these people wtf?
> What does github have to do with it? (I'm a developer and don't have one)"
> What would you do if you don't have time for a github account. Me personally I am a starting full time developer and I honestly don't have time or the desire to come home and work on another project after programing all day.
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Q: What are the Advantages of a "Combined" Getter/Setter VS Individual Methods?

Levi HackwithThis is what I call a "combined" getter/setter method (from jQuery): var foo = $("<div>This is my HTML</div>"), myText; myText = foo.text(); // myHTML now equals "This is my HTML" (Getter) foo.text("This is a new value"); // The text now equals "This is a new value") This is t...

16:09
if I wasn't as nice id just respond with "Get on my level"
@Darkyen that awkward moment when you realize none of rlemons jokes are funny. He's just been telling them for so long now he's actually altered your sense of humor and lowered your overall expectations with jokes.
@rlemon That awkward moment when u fall asleep trying to figure out meaning from rlemons texxt
@Loktar or realize they are like 16 and think they are 'web developers' because they made a myspace template.
^ or whatever the rage is now
lol yeah
"Im a developer but I dont have any code to show"
is basically what Im seeing.
> I usually go on the front of creating and designing a personal site. Which showcases other work. Github to me is like being a photographer and putting it only on Facebook to see.
^ this guy is a fucking moron
16:12
lol then he puts the icing on the cake dude
> I may be wrong, but github everytime I use it is pretty damn complicated to view things. But I must admit I only use it download javascript plugins.
github is DSC - DS FUCKING C
^ he means jquery plugins im sure
it's not a social site first, it's distributed source control for open source projects first. second it allows for social collaboration
@Loktar tell her to sometime come and sit on javascript room in stackoverflow
its better then reddit "."
@Loktar If you don't enjoy programming enough to have side projects, you're not a real dev. #elitist
16:13
@Darkyen ah good idea!
and also in wikipedia dev-camps people get rejected solely for not having "GITHUBACCOUNTS"
why ?
@SomeKittens :P it is an elitist attitude I guess.. but idk I find it true
there is no measure you can compare their quality with a closed source project :P
The bar for entry to "Web Developer" is embarrassingly low.
it is true. the best mechanics work on cars at home - the best cooks don't go home and order pizza...
16:15
> Github to me is like being a photographer and putting it only on Facebook to see.
if you want to be really great at something you need to make it a part of your life and your attitude.
#killitwithfire
yeah exactly
I think thats the difference though... these people don't care to be really great I guess
@rlemon Cooks may be a bad example. I had a friend with chef parents and they were so tired they'd never make dinner
@SomeKittens no its not
16:16
real devs do the things that I also do
which has always frustrated me
When they went all out, woo!
@Darkyen Why do you say that?
because there is no proper definition for web-developer
Tim Lee calls himself a Web Developer , daddy of HTML :P
and Olli aswell :P
its such a vague term that its undefinable
and @Loktar link this comment there
Can you become a good dev just by doing the things good devs do (Have a blog, side projects, discuss with other devs)
"Her web design is better then 80% of designers i dont fucking know how she is NOT marketable... i sense envious advices all over the place "
@SomeKittens sometimes yes
sometimes no
16:19
Elaborate
@Darkyen lol yeah thats exactly what I was thinking
she is a very good designer imo
then I read the comments.. and I was like wtf??
me too :P
at 17 her design is way mature then what we would off made :$
@SomeKittens absolutely
darkyen.webs.com @Loktar me at 17
Hmm. I should blog about that.
16:21
I believe you can as well
I have grown in skill since I've tried to become more apart of the web community
dear god that website is so shameful :3 i needa rework
@Darkyen ohhhhhhhhhh god
haha yeah. those buttons :P
(XD)
when did you guys start programming?
16:22
Me ? 6 years ago
On my commodore at 8 :P
Web Developent started like 2 years ago
I was told you could make games.. and I was like WHAAAT?? No way!
@SimonSarris Define "programming" i.e. false starts that never got anywhere, or "real" programming?
16:22
in PHP, 55 secs ago, by Mario S
@Neal no that piece of code actually made sense in my head === brilliant
:-D
the definition of programming always is and always will be "making things", regardless of how small or successful
@Loktar so did your webAudio thing worked ?
well, digital things :)
@SimonSarris before I was born
Several false starts until I hit college, then just did assignments. I didn't start really trying to make things/improve until just over a year ago.
16:23
My first program was a little alarm sound
I started making "websites" when I was in middle school I think
@Darkyen yeah it worked alright.. choppy on some computers
@Neal yeah I started with Geocities, around 8th grade
hehe hometown aol "website" for me @SimonSarris
ah yes Geocities
16:24
@Loktar hey i beat u by miles man :D
geocities was the internet basically
@Darkyen what do you mean?
geocities was the greatest thing a 13 year old could ever hope for
you had SOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
See the internet? You can make it. You can do this stuff. It's not that hard.
@SimonSarris haha it was.
16:24
and its.... FREE!
Nobody else in my life told me that. Nobody explained to me that creating things on a computer wasn't magic, and if I wasn't enticed with such an easy website creator I may have never known.
i just had text :-(
@SimonSarris :-)
yeah, I found out from the manual that came ith the c64, and the library
kinda same here
lol.. back when you had to go to the library to attain knowledge :P
16:25
these days i am tutoring some classmates @Loktar might need some backup with tutoring :P
@Loktar hahaha
hehe an early site of mine i made for my family: picklemaniac.tripod.com
maybe a 30 minutes guest tutor :D ? @Loktar what u say teach em all how to make dressup games :D
sooo ugly
@Darkyen dude.. im a terrible speaker
HAHA dressup games
16:26
the first programming I did was just before high school
@Neal that looks like 90% of the old myspace profiles out there
I got a TI-83 and it came with a HUGE manual, so I was like "whats this all about" and read the thing cover to cover
@SimonSarris we are brothers :D
oh man those calculators were so awesome
TI BASIC FTW
16:26
@SimonSarris lol yea. TI83 was a BIG breakthrough for me!
I made tiny programs for basically every math and physics thing that came along in high school
hehe I made a blackjack game
and many other games
and sent them around the school
nice
@Loktar you hear ACDC ?
and I made useful math games lol
16:27
@Darkyen Ive heard of them
@SomeKittens meh, I used to work as a chef (year and a bit) and I still loved cooking at home.
I remember people who used to put their notes in as "code" on the ti-83
tune into my gf's radio
she got some really incredible songs on the server
thats why they started wiping them before the state exams lol
@Loktar haha yea. I really did not know what I was doing lol (or was that nice in 2004?)
130 Gigs already and shes uploading like 13gig per day
16:28
damn @Darkyen thats a lot of music
@Loktar dude shes got 0.67TB of music
I've never used reddit (save one in-jokeish attempt). Should I start submitting Recoding to /r/programming?
mostly classic Rock , Rock , SOME MORE ROCK , ROCK !
@SomeKittens Maybe to some startup reddit
They're not all startup-related. I'm actually trying to sway away from startup-related things
But point taken
16:32
@SomeKittens In that case, I'd say yes if it's about programming. I don't know their policies though
Hi,

I was thinking more of a banner on your sites hosted with us, which can drive attention to b-webhost in programmer community, as well as some kind of signature at stackoverflow (like forum signature), we of course will provide you with all hosting needs for free in exchange for your help.

This might as well include a vps server built for your needs.

Regards,
Paul C.
:-)
mooo hahahaha
would that be selling out to "the man"?
Yes. Very yes.
I've specifically avoided monetizing Recoding for that reason.
I forgot context:
I also noticed you are active member of stackoverflow community, is this right? Afaik this is very big programming community so maybe we can collaborate with you on providing you with sponsored hosting\vps in exchange for some kind of promotion for our hosting.

Regards,
Paul C.
This is from b-webhost.com
> as well as some kind of signature at stackoverflow (like forum signature)
^Specifically banned here.
Yea I told him that signatures are a no go on stack overflow.
I told him that if he wants I could put a link in my profile.
16:35
@Neal hahahaha
mazing :D
at most what we can do is Put a banner of their page on the blog
but thats it :P
I told him all of that :-) @Abhishek
You also need to drive hits or they'll get mad.
@SomeKittens baaah
We shall see
After 3+ months, I'm still only getting 50-100 hits per post.
Haha. well se shall see what happens. It is all talk now lol
16:36
@Neal Nodejitsu provides free node.js servers aye ?
@Darkyen no...
no they changed
sorry :-|
<wrong chat>
@Darkyen ahhh haaaa...
@Neal i am in kinda love with my own Auto Dj :$
it plays all the top rock songs of past 30 year :->
@Darkyen ooook then
I just listen to Q104.3 in the car
16:39
i listen to my own radio station biach :D
@Darkyen Pandora?
@Darkyen did you change your name?
!
nope i own a shoutcast station :P
@SimonSarris Yes
:(
but I already have you in my brain as ole shek
@Neal well my gf owns it but well i pay so yeah i own aswell ;D ... Also helps me testing my own stuff cause i work with a broadcasting startup myself :P
16:42
@Darkyen ahhh haaa...
@Loktar i NEED UR EXPERTISE!
help me create a musical visualsation :$
Kill me if you want, but I'm finding Nicholas Zakas rather boring.
@SomeKittens Who the **** is that ?
@SomeKittens FLAGGED.
He's in severe violation of the "show, don't tell" rule.
16:45
(just kidding)
I keep waiting for him to hit the good stuff, but then he's rambling on, killing a great Mitch Hedburg joke by explaining it to death.
yea.. as great of a speaker Nicholas is, his jokes are horrible
Heh, they all laughed at IE
What are some things people do that they think makes them good devs, but really doesn't? I.e. Arguing incessantly (Yes, Crockford does it, but that doesn't mean you should) or using jQuery for everything.
@SomeKittens make mountains out of molehills
@SomeKittens Using obscure languages, or worse, trying to teach newcomers with them
16:51
ooh, good ones
hehe my friend is working on creating a new language in a research group.
@SomeKittens refusing to use a language with garbage collection
@SimonSarris Could you expand on that for the noob?
@SomeKittens I met a lot of people at RPI who were very pro-C and C++ and thought anything higher level was "child's play", primarily because of manual memory management vs garbage collection. It's the same old, tired "Real X use Y" sentiment that bothers the hell out of me.
Sounds good. You went to RPI?
16:54
yes
That's not far from where I grew up. Upstate NY FTW
@SimonSarris showed em "node.js"
applause
16:56
> ... Where was Stac Electronics when Microsoft invented Doublespace? Where
> were Xerox and Apple when Microsoft invented the GUI? Where was Apple's
> QuickTime when Microsoft invented Video for Windows? Where was Spyglass
> Inc.'s Mosaic when Microsoft invented Internet Explorer? Where was Sun
> when Microsoft invented Java?
Am going to sleep
@copy Where are the Snowdens of Yesteryear?
"Who is Spain?"

"Why is Hitler?"

"When is right?"

"Where was that stooped and mealy-colored old man I used to call Poppa when the merry-go-round broke down?"

"How was trump at Munich?"

"Ho-ho beriberi." and

"Balls!"

all rang out in rapid succession, and then there was Yossarian with the question that had no answer:

"Where are the Snowdens of yesteryear?"

The question upset them...
@copy ...in court?
@copy Microsoft Invented Java ?
@Darkyen Yes, and GUI and Internet
16:57
@copy wow
proof ?
@SimonSarris tl;dr but the balls! in the middle kinda looks awkward
@Darkyen its from a book (Catch-22)
ah
anyways i am going to sleep .. gnight
night ole shek
@SimonSarris do i get discount if i buy ur book like 5 copies or so ?
cause i think the dumb students of mine might be enlightened :D
haha
if you do not I can give you an amazon gift card
17:00
:-) mkay. i am ordering like 5- 10 :D
cya .. finally
boss calls me into a meeting:
boss: "We need you to write ABC some software. " (I get outsourced sometimes to our partner companies)
me: "Ok" [me to ABC] "Lets see the specs/designs/drawings/ideas/etc"
ABC: "Don't have any... really we want it to work like the competitors software but look better."
me: "umm, ok... Having never used the software this might be difficult. Can you write me up some specs on how you want yours to be, even if you are just documenting how theirs works?"
ABC: "Can't you just use it and find out?" (keeping in mind this is for industrial automation stuff for VERY spec
this should be a fun project. :/
...ouch
Charge by the hour?
@rlemon demand a spec imo
"I know you don't listen to music ever... but here is a copy of iTunes.. can you make me this but look better?"
17:09
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Q: Simple Node.JS server

JustinI am in the process of writing a simple Node.JS webserver. I am about half-way there in terms of functionality. Please see the full code in this fiddle (the client-side code is not shown as I want to focus on server-side). Before I implement the rest of the functionality, I would like to pause a...

@canon I told him he needs to at least take the competitors product and storyboard it for me; as well as spec what technical details I can get out of him
but from the beginning of the meeting I could tell....
@rlemon lol oy
1 min ago, by rlemon
this should be a fun project. :/
Y U PUT SERVER CODE IN A CLIENT FIDDLE? use pastebin... — Neal 5 secs ago
hello ... i tried jsfiddle.net/wNnPF when i click on iframe .. alert is not showing. .. how to use click event on iframe?
17:11
@rlemon when a client declines to provide a spec, they're really saying, "I want to be able to look at what you produce later and have zero accountability for why it's not how I'd like it."
I hate that so very much... and it happens more often than not.
@NullPointer huh? the alert is immediate
Also you have no control over iframe...
well the saving grace to all of this is I'm on salary.
@Neal you mean its not possible to do like this ?
17:13
so... hell.. he can make it a runaround project all he likes. he's paying regardless.
@NullPointer not that I know of
@Neal Y U CONFUSE NOOBS BY NOT PROVIDING REASONING
is there another tricky way to do something like this ?
@SomeKittens Y U SMELL
(yea, take that!)
@NullPointer don't use an iframe...
@NullPointer are you trying to trigger a click or listen for one
17:16
@rlemon both
Neal, if you ever want to be a room owner, try and focus on being constructive instead of criticizing.
Not everyone has to conform to your "perfect" view of the world.
@rlemon yes ... both
@Neal i am ingratiating youtube so have to
@SomeKittens I really have no idea what you are talking about lol. JSFiddle is for client side code. I was telling the OP that (but in a fun way)
@OlegOrlov what?
@OlegOrlov well not entirely. var str = "123"; is a string in js
so str + 3 === "1233"
but if you did that in PHP $str + 3 === 126
Heh, operator precedence...
@NullPointer no you do not. please don't state such things
17:21
Ingratiating ?
3
sorry ... typo its ... integrate
lol idk. I read it as integrating @FlorianMargaine
@NullPointer: jsfiddle.net/2MXkh/1
I think thats the closest you can get, especially when you're talking about an iframe pointing to a foreign domain
@jAndy its awesome ... thankyou ...
no way you can trigger anything on that without hitting the SOP
17:25
Less code always is faster? Doubt that.
Uh oh just saw the pings -- thanks people! Can't ping you, I'm on phone
always is always wrong :-p
posted on January 11, 2013

I mentioned the precursor to VexFlow a long time ago, but I think it is worth revisiting since it has had many updates since then.  VexFlow is a music notation renderer written in JavaScript supporting both Canvas and SVG backends.  VexTab is a language that goes along with VexFlow for simply describing music notation using a simple textual language. As you can see from the below screenshot, it

@Darkyen sorry had a fire drill
you still need help?
@NullPointer: doesn't seem to work like so
@Loktar He went to bed
17:39
@jAndy brightmeup.info/video.php here i want to use click event ... same js isnt working here ..
@NullPointer: so you actually just want to use the small'ish iframes as kind of a "selection menu" to display the video on the bigger screen ?
@jAndy yup exactly .. so i thought i copy iframe code by clicking parent div and past in big block
after changing dimensions
if there is no need to actually "play" the videos on the smaller tiles, I probably wouldn't use <iframe> elements there, could basically be anything
@jAndy what should i use ? .. take image of all ...and use iframe only in big block ?
@NullPointer: well, you would of course lose the luxery of the "auto" preview for the video (unless you do some magic behind to capture a picture or something)
anyway, the jsfiddle snippet should just do it for that example
@NullPointer: it looks like there are more videocontainer elements behind that 'big screen'. The snippet only binds the click handler to the very first element, which is underneath
17:48
@jAndy yup exactly .. i can add code on iframe on click on image in small box than trigger click on iframe ..
@jAndy ... it will show on only click on small block .. but for checking i am showing it
@NullPointer: jsfiddle.net/2MXkh/3
that should do it, but I couldn't find any <iframe> element for the bigger screen in your current markup
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Q: JS error after full MySQL export

AttilaI exported my wordpress from a staging server: http://www.riccardo.it/newtech to a live server: http://newtech-consulting.com/new/ Doing a mysql export and changing the website variable. Everything works but I have some issues with the template, the slider and the project page do not seem to w...

@jAndy i was trying to add html instead src ... but your approach is perfect way to go
that should really do it :p
just don't forget the css :behind pseudo
17:55
@jAndy yey.. its working now ...you made my day ...thankyou
boss just told me he bought me this
Anybody here using nodej in production?
@canon ...sorta?
Building a production app, not released yet
@SomeKittens ah. What's your host OS?
17:59
@NullPointer: jsfiddle.net/2MXkh/5

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