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3:00 PM
@MohamedAhmedNabil SoundManager2
 
@FlorianMargaine I knew you would know that, damn you're better than Google itself!
:P
 
^^
@TomShreds but for jekyll there is pygments
automatically installed
 
@RyanKinal I dont know a single word in java script and i didnt think that C++ would help me with something like this
 
I needed something not for jekyll, so it's alright :)
 
@RyanKinal Can you tell me how to do it?
 
3:01 PM
@TomShreds just FYI here's how I write code with jekyll raw.github.com/Ralt/ralt.github.com/master/_posts/…
 
@MohamedAhmedNabil I would suggest you follow the examples that SM2 has
 
@RyanKinal Can this do what i need it to do?
 
Yes
 
{% highlight javascript %}
// some js code
{% endhighlight %}
 
@FlorianMargaine oh thanks, I never wrote code on my jekyll blog yet, but it'll be useful to know!
 
3:02 PM
@RyanKinal ok but i have 0 knowledge of the java syntax
 
@TomShreds yep, as you can see, it generates some pretty well highlighted code
 
@MohamedAhmedNabil Then I might suggest learning it.
 
@MohamedAhmedNabil java is to javascript what a car is to a carpet
 
Also that
 
@FlorianMargaine I dont know either
Im just C++ :/
 
3:03 PM
-_-
 
you're in the javascript room there.
 
it does indeed
 
I was here expecting someone to do me a quick program
 
Really?
 
oh yeah
sorry, we're not working for free in there.
 
3:04 PM
function no(){
document.write("No");
}
 
How do you format message as if it was a citation ?
 
haha, expectations
 
(here on chat.SO)
 
@SomeKittens Im not that stupid XD
Thank you all anyways
 
@MohamedAhmedNabil I'd tend to disagree
You're dumb enough to expect people to do your work for you.
 
3:05 PM
If I were to come into the C++ room, and say "Hey guys, I don't know anything about C++, but I want to play a sound when the timer reaches 0.", what would happen?
 
@dievardump add a > at the beginning
> some quote
 
Thanx
 
and it's ie7 time again
 
@GNi33 wish you luck
 
> a free tool that encrypts, obfuscates and protects javascript codes
Why would people do that ?
 
3:07 PM
dammit, i don't know whats wrong with this thing
screws up my whole script
 
LOL
thats retarded @dievardump
 
var some = 'code';
var code = some.split('');
 
no error-message, nothing. it just throws away the whole markup and sets everything to display: none
 
gives this
heh
"this message is too long"
 
@Loktar I know. But why would people do that. :(
 
3:08 PM
because they're retarded
 
@dievardump Because they think they can protect their code
They don't want somebody "stealing" it
 
"Javascript Code Encrypter And Obfuscator" http://bit.ly/NdJIe3 #javascript #obfuscate
 
the obfuscation is... really obfuscated though
 
@RyanKinal I think the code is very well protected there though :x
 
3:09 PM
Maybe I can insult him ? :o (that's a joke, don't flag me little crazy guy)
 
@FlorianMargaine But it's still usable
 
oh, yeah, sure
 
I could take an "encrypted" library, include it, and it would still work
 
that's not the point of encrypting though
you can take a copy of microsoft office
and it may not work if you include some protection vs usage in encrypted code :)
(like, domain protection)
 
@EdanHewitt NO! this.eval=function(e){return function(t){console.log(t);return e(t)}}(eval); #screw #obfuscators #encrypters
Ahaha.
 
3:11 PM
True
 
btw @TomShreds this is an example of what docgenerator generates margaine.com/tartempion/documentation/documentation.html
you could write your doc with that :p
each chapter is a markdown file, that's the beauty of it :3
 
I just need some more coffeZzzZzzzZzzzZzzzzzz...
 
@dievardump I just made a pot. care to have a with me?
 
yay
cracked their encryption.
haha
that is retarded easy.
 
3:17 PM
ok so whatever it gives you beautify it real quick
youll get this section
function _1597(_4805) {
    _9903(_3145);
    _1597(_8487);
    _8487(_5428);
    _1597(_5129);
}
then just console.log the 3rd one.. always.
and thats the program.
I was surprised how easy it was :?
/me goes to a stupid meeting.. yay
 
haha
nice one
@EdanHewitt http://pastebin.com/RrXV1Az8 #failobfuscator
:p
 
any possibility that stuff like
$('element[data-onpage="p1"]')
doesnt work on ie7?
 
@rlemon yeah sure.
 
because that would.... well... suck
 
Don't worry, jQuery is cross-browser!
 
3:27 PM
dammit, this doesn't work
 
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Please, NO
@GNi33 Are you sure ie7 accept data- ?
 
@dievardump What's wrong with that?
 
@dievardump pfft, startups should not matter where they are located so long as their product is good and they have a smart team of developers and BA's
 
@rlemon Connections matter more than you think
 
3:30 PM
maybe to get the people. but nothing past that
 
@FlorianMargaine thanks for the ban :-P
 
@RyanKinal New York city. Dirty, awful Metro, too stressed people, grey town because of the big building, East cost, pollution...
 
good product (good devs, good QA, and good BA's) + good marketing team or a good marketing company to back you - this is all you need
 
@rlemon Funding? Advertising? Buzz?
 
@dievardump ... so don't go to NYC?
 
3:31 PM
@SomeKittens ok, and what does silicon valley have to do with any of this?
you can get these things no matter where you go.
 
@dievardump come to New Hampshire :D:D:D:D
 
@dievardump Thus Upstate NY === FTW
 
and regardless of where you are, if your product is shit you will have no angel investors
kickstarter FTW
 
hehe, we've actually turned down at least one angel ;-)
angel: "Want $15k?"
slicktext: "Nah, we got this"
 
lol
 
3:32 PM
@RyanKinal Sure. That's why I never went to Paris. But why would startup migrate to the "less attractive town in the world for living and working" ?
 
@dievardump well, the selector doesn't seem to return anything, although i'm pretty sure i've used data-attributes with jQuery and IE7
rel doesn't work either, damn
 
my last company:
angel: Here is 65K
us: ok.... you're hired!
angel: So am I getting my 65K back
us: yup, here if your first pay
angel: but i'm working for this money
us: please, you call what you do work?
 
is there any good way to remove all classes like "p1", "p2" ..... ?
 
@dievardump I can't imagine it has much to do with anything except the likelihood that the startup is already in NYC
 
3:34 PM
tl;dr give me a summary
 
Of course, the article posted by @SomeKittens may refute that...
 
@rlemon It's important to be in an environment like Silicon valley because connections matter (meeting others who can help you with problems, running into VC's at lunch, etc, etc)
 
I live in KW (Kitchener Waterloo) we have seen a boom in startups and I have worked for a few - trust me when I say we have been made into the city we are because we had startups comming in, not because we were already successful. Some made it, some did not. based on the things I have already outlined. Location is meaningless in the long run.
@SomeKittens and with the power of the internet this means nothing now a days.
 
^ that's my thought
 
being in Cali is just for the 'image' of a huge tech company
 
3:36 PM
@Neal ?!
 
Location can determine success or failure. (the article's less than a year old, by the way)
and with the failure rate of startups, you want every edge you've got
 
@SomeKittens the article is only an opinion. I have seen contradictory facts against it in my own life.
@SomeKittens My edge better be because my product is uber and not because I could afford to pack up and move to cali.
@FlorianMargaine I think he blames you for him posting some stupid wall of text and getting flagged on it? maybe?
 
dunno :/
 
Hows does this gets upvoted without any code and not answering the question in any way possible
 
Code? Explanation of code? Answers? This is missing all of them. — rlemon 5 secs ago
 
3:39 PM
I know close-voters are skeptic at times, but upvoters too õ_o
 
@FabrícioMatté He's got a fiddle?
 
@FlorianMargaine lol I dont blame u. I was just banned if you wanna know where I went ^_^
 
which doesn't work
 
bah, chat gives me 10-15 messages at a time...
 
oh i only tested it in FF
but still, isn't relative to the question which asks for a relative increment
 
3:40 PM
1 min ago, by rlemon
Code? Explanation of code? Answers? This is missing all of them. — rlemon 5 secs ago
regardless if his worked or not... all of ^ this is true.
just posting a link is not good SO mojo
 
doesn't relate to the question either, OP shows in the question that he knows how to change bgpos already
he was clearly asking for a relative increment
 
in the last three days i've downvoted 15 times :P
The summer of downvotes
2
lunch time
nom nom nom
 
I'm on FF17 nightly and just realized it still doesn't support backgroundPositionY through JS
i wonder if that's the way it was supposed to be
 
Hey. Anyone know if it's possible to convert a byte array to an image using Javascript? I'm sending the bytes via a websocket.
 
3:46 PM
I'm sometimes confused as to whether "FF" refers to FireFox or Final Fantasy
 
Firefox =]
 
Yeah, I usually work it out in a second or so. But for an instant, I have to think about it.
 
I prefer the Chrono series above final fantasy
 
hah... this browser is so retarded, it's sickening
 
x]
yeah man, FF was supposed to support input type="number" since version 4
version 17 atm and looking through bugzilla they aren't even half-done with it
._.
 
3:48 PM
lol
 
grrr. Copying tutorials does NOT make you a programmer! It means you've taken the first step.
 
getting one upvote only for a good answer sucks :(
 
@JoeyMorani Yes with canvas
 
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A: How to convert String variable to int in javascript?

Florian MargaineparseInt returns a number only if you pass it a number as first character. Examples: parseInt( 'a', 10 ); // NaN parseInt( 'a10', 10 ); // NaN parseInt( '10a', 10 ); // 10 parseInt( '', 10 ); // NaN parseInt( '10', 10 ); // 10 Also, you may take a look at the + operator if you only want to ge...

 
by FF 50 or so, when HTML11 is already standard cross-browser, then and only then Mozilla will implement HTML5's <input type="number">
 
3:49 PM
@FabrícioMatté what about <input type="color">? :>
 
@SomeKittens Yeah, but it's encouraging to think of yourself as a programmer, isn't it?
 
Chrome canary and Opera supports it
for FF well
that will be after my lifetime
 
I want to draw the image to a canvas, so that's good. Do you know how? :)
 
@RyanKinal I've played MS Flight simulator, but it'd be crazy for me to call myself a pilot.
 
@JoeyMorani drawImage()
 
3:51 PM
@SomeKittens Yes. Because you've never flown a plane. But somebody who's gone through a tutorial has, in fact, written a program.
Maybe they didn't conceive of the program, but they certainly made something that works
 
the car mechanic analogy is always a good one for the programming stuff
 
drawImage(bytes, 0, 0, canvas.width, canvas.height) ?
 
everybody does something on his car, yet they're not mechanics
but if someone writes a program, they're immediately programmers
 
@FabrícioMatté i think thats on roadmap
 
There are different levels of experience in being a mechanic, as there are in being a programmer
 
3:54 PM
closer then 50
maybe around 17 or 18**
 
lol I see =]
 
@RyanKinal No, they've copied one. That's a big difference in my opinion
 
I'll look up bugzilla again to check how many blocking tickets are pending
 
i want regex to match `<scrtipt>` tag that must not contain src
eg:- `<script type="text/javascript"> --- match`
`<script src="localhost"> --- do not match`
only want regex
 
Similarly to how someone might follow instructions on how to fix a car. They're beginning, they're learning, they're doing things that a professional might do. They don't necessarily conceive of why, but they're beginning, and they're learning.
 
3:56 PM
@BasicBridge I want $50.
Notice how I didn't get it?
 
So, I might label them a "beginning programmer", similarly to how I might label a "beginning mechanic".
 
@SomeKittens ow really i don't have much
 
Somebody once gave me $5 for a CSS answer. That's about the most profit I've gained from SO
 
  Numerical input types should be able to accept Arabic, Persian, and other non-ASCII digits
eh Never mind bugzilla
 
@RyanKinal I understand. That's perfectly fine with me. When one thinks that copying a program suddenly puts one on the same level as me (still an ultra-noob, but I'm halfway done with a CS degree, as well as a project manager), THAT'S what irritates me.
 
3:58 PM
@RyanKinal some time we need to help free. "HELPING TO SOMEONE IS HELPING TO GOD"
 
not too many bugs blocking the type="number", only about 6 with another 5 dependencies bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344616
 
@BasicBridge Ooh, that's a can of worms...
<--- atheist
 
Or even worse, they feel like they can correct my code. When they don't even know the language I'm writing.
 
in fairness I have no idea wtf language the other dev here writes in
 
@BasicBridge Well, I don't have that much help for you. Funny how that works. Have you tried an XML parser?
 
3:59 PM
so I have to fix it :P
 
@BasicBridge Also, if you look at my SO account, you'll notice that I have no problem helping for free
 
@RyanKinal Yeah maybe... But they were saying in the article that startup begin to come to NYC because of the fact that there is Foursquare and Kickstarter, fast growing startups, in the town.
 
@dievardump So, posers are following the success stories? Big surprise.
 
@SomeKittens ok thanks :p i want regex for that.
 
@BasicBridge Since sarcasm doesn't seem to be working:
 
4:01 PM
[^\>]
 
YOU DON'T GET IT. WE WON'T DO YOUR WORK FOR YOU. DO BASIC RESEARCH. LEARN HOW TO ASK A GOOD QUESTION.
 
hm
how to trigger the chtulu egg?
 
AND NEVER, NEVER, NEVER ATTEMPT TO REGEX HTML.
 
/<.+>.*(</.+>)?/
 
4432
A: RegEx match open tags except XHTML self-contained tags

bobinceYou can't parse [X]HTML with regex. Because HTML can't be parsed by regex. Regex is not a tool that can be used to correctly parse HTML. As I have answered in HTML-and-regex questions here so many times before, the use of regex will not allow you to consume HTML. Regular expressions are a tool th...

 
4:03 PM
Well that' didn't work
 
@RyanKinal I know. I was just begging for them to not do it. That's all :(
 
@SomeKittens Or XML for that reason
@dievardump Ah, understood
 
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4:04 PM
wut?
 
Ah, unicode
 
@GNi33 and here we go again
 
hmm?
 
someone give me the ips for
thepiratebay.se
and static.thepiratebay.se
:P
nvm
ping worked
 
4:26 PM
 
damn??? github pages down again :/
well, not updating
 
@FlorianMargaine Working for me
 
is the "installation" chapter complete? not empty?
 
> Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to margaine.com
 
4:33 PM
yeah <<
try ralt.github.com instead of margaine.com
(it's the same)
 
margaine.com loaded this time
But I see nothing under Installation
 
the commit was pushed 30 minutes ago <<
 
same here
 
nice one
has anyone ever used git tags for release management? any experience with it?
for now it looks good to me, dunno if I'll get some drawbacks though
 
@Ryan Kinal: yes there is a default stylesheet for browsers, however the default stylesheet for browsers DOES NOT DICTATE ALL STYLES, INCLUDING ANY MARGINS APPLIED BY THE BROWSERS DIRECTLY, AS IS THE ISSUE IN THIS CASE. Furthermore, I am very much aware that jQuery is Javascript, as I have been developing for many years, but jQuery is a much easier library for using Javascript than using standard Javascript is for beginners. Mozilla's documentation, extensive as it may be, is not nearly as user-friendly as jQuery's. Finally, though you may prefer to go and spend hours and hours tweaking CSS — Zachary Kniebel 6 mins ago
Overreact much?
This is getting ridiculous
 
4:44 PM
What:
-1
Q: Extending DIV Tags

tfmontagueHow can I extend a Div tag to support a new feature? Shapes created with the canvas tag are sand-boxed into the canvas tag - I need shapes that can be embedded into the DOM. What I'm trying to accomplish is a way to extend the HTML div tag to support a new feature, primary - I would like to cre...

?
 
I like how he doesn't spell your name right in the second one
 
@SomeKittens I know, right?
 
@dievardump That is friggin' sweet
 
4:52 PM
@dievardump lol
font glyphs are always nice :p
I like the social networks ones
 
okay made a git for the presentation :-)
 
@SomeKittens Huh... answers were deleted
 
you didn't push it, did you?
 
not yet
pushing it now , will need re-factorin
 
@fmargaine @github same problem here... :-/
 
@SomeKittens And, coincidentally, I have a downvote on this answer as of a few minutes ago
 

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