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6:02 PM
@RaymondArteaga really??? you couldn't see ANY character that mwb looks like???!
 
@RaymondArteaga somebody once said I looked like Matt Damon after a brain tumor and 2 seizures
she is my ex now
 
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do you see the resemblance now??
 
I dont?
 
hahaha
 
I'd rather have it smiling
 
6:05 PM
spot on though, except I wouldnt send germans to stalingrad
 
lol
yo crabs and humans
 
hahah basically mwb is the version of hitler that wins the war
 
I mean it hurts a little to be honest xD
we Dutch call Germans the "autistic Dutch" after all
 
hahaha I'm just joking around
lmao xD
 
oh wait but Hitler was austrian
 
6:06 PM
that's why they add the extra "e" right
 
nvm then
 
Deutch or whatever
 
@ballBreaker exactly
im so going to be banned
had a good laugh though
 
hahahah
if anyone, it should be me
I declare parody law, I'm unbannable for this who ever sees the flag
just remember this
 
:(
 
6:12 PM
nice
 
Which law rules SO chats freedom of speech?
 
@ballBreaker you should totally drop c++ and try Rust
@RaymondArteaga the room owner's
 
Can they be sued?
 
for some definitions of these words, sure
 
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier oh I'd prefer rust, I havent done any C++ in a decade
 
6:15 PM
yes
 
will it do anything, I don't think so
@ballBreaker It's "sneaking Rust in the project without telling anyone" time
 
tell jbis to use rust instead
he's the poor lad using C++
 
Wasn't Rust going to substitute C++ in android projects?
 
I sure hope so :P
 
6:18 PM
I read about something being a substitute for C++ in the android source code, but don't remember what language exactly
 
probably rust
I think rust is to c++ like scala/kotlin are to java
 
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier I wish . School doesn't allow
 
@JBis School is overrated
 
rating is overrated
 
6:22 PM
unless it's being used to rate school
in that case rating is underrated
 
I can agree with that
 
here to make you feel better
 
Also for the projects everything is designed for us, all we do is implement a couple methods
 
hi
tell me a good online game to play with friends....
in office time
 
Isnt designing the project and working out how everything should work just as important if not more?
 
6:25 PM
@bluetoothfx don't starve
 
if we start to play we will miss slack post
 
@JBis learning to actually follow a design is orders of magnitude harder than designign somethign int he first place
 
webpage game will be best
 
there's way too much designing in the world
 
@bluetoothfx Just set your status as Lunch
 
6:26 PM
@RaymondArteaga pm will kill us
 
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier I disagree
 
@bluetoothfx They can't afford killing devs
 
@JBis I would be ready to bet a sizeable of money that, when doing "small tasks", you would be absolutely unable to prevent yourself from "fixing this small thing"
 
A critical skill in softwaree design is breaking large problem into smaller ones. That's already been done for us
 
6:27 PM
actually, restraining oneself in the process of fixing a bug is a much, much rarer skill than coming up with acceptable designs
 
@JBis you're forgetting that you are in intro to programming classes bro
these plebs in your class have never touched a compiler in their life
and you're expecting them to design an entire system
 
@bluetoothfx start a deploy
 
@ballBreaker yes buts it's the second intro class, da faq they do in the first intro class
"This is a mouse"
 
probably C
 
Nah it's still cpp
 
6:30 PM
you may want to temper your expectations of university
 
;(
Whatever I'm not here for the programming so I guess it doesn't matter
 
that's the right attitude
what you get out of university:
- piece of paper with your name and school on it
- hopefully some time management skills
- hopefully some social skills
and maybe some learning if you pick cool classes
just keep in mind that although university on average has smarter people than the general population, at least half or more of the people you meet are going to be half as smart as you are
and universities are a business, especially in the US, so if they fail all their retard students then they wouldn't have money
 
Tim
@JBis first part is literally "string is text and int is number" kind of stuff
 
at least that's my take v0v
 
@ballBreaker i'm hoping that they can teach me some cryptography math
also the polisci stuff is interesting
 
Tim
6:36 PM
whatever they may be able to teach you, you can teach yourself in a quarter of the time
school is very inefficient
 
fair enough
is your take the same on grad school & PhD?
 
no because it's more catered to your choice of post grad program and research
 
Tim
I don't know that's for nerds
 
and yeah exactly
 
hmm ok
 
Tim
6:38 PM
what I do know is that phd 'students' teach themselves. They are like on a 4 year solo project doing research that has never been done before, nobody can tell them what to do really
 
got 18k debt just to be a garbageman for now
 
@Tim yeah that sounds fun
(half sarcastic, half not)
 
yeah but does 8 years of university sound fun
if you're getting drunk and partying = yes
if you're being a nerd = no
 
those two are not mutually exclusive
:D
 
@Tim and then years later everyone is like "fuck me literally everything is a byte, and we represent strings in hexadecimal, and a string is actually integers, and oh my word encoding"
 
Tim
6:41 PM
utf8?? unicode?? hex?? what is this
 
@JBis depends where on the spectrum you lay
(autistic spectrum, of course)
 
@RaymondArteaga great idea
 
Tim
most people who do not LOVE studying are so happy to get out of the educational system after ~4 years, they won't even consider a master/phd. Also in a lot of 'programming' fields, practical experience is infinitely more valuable than theoretical
 
@Tim yeah I feel that 100%, I was in the former
grad studies were the last thing I wanted
 
6:44 PM
@Tim i agree, i just don't know cryptography falls within that category
a large part of cryptography is theoretical
 
didnt u say u hated math
and are bad at it
 
yes, and yes
 
do you feel like you're trying to force your way into a field that you secretly hate
 
but it's so interesting, and i really do love it, even if i suck at it
 
hahah that's fair
 
6:45 PM
@JBis luckily nerds write cryptography providers for us
so we can use it in real life
 
yeah the key is to hire nerds to do the shitty work and to steal the good work for yourself
they dont have the social skills to decline
 
Tim
that's true
but to be fair it's their own fault. Just don't be a nerd
 
my plan which is def not concrete is probably do theoretical research for a bit and then go into the private sector and get paid to do practical research for a while
 
lolol yeah 100%
I know a few programmers that are going to be the ones stuck in a corner (or closet) doing code-monkey work for the rest of their lives because they have no backbone
 
Tim
are you not afraid that nobody will hire you because you suck at your job
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6:48 PM
hahahahahaha
ruthless
 
lmao
@Tim apparently practical crypto research doesn't require that much math and the math isn't that hard (source: multiple people working in that field)
 
@JBis yeah definitely do some of that theoretical side first, you might find that you actually hate it
 
Tim
people who are good at math: this math is not that hard
 
xD
so true though
 
yeah, i think most of them had a math degrees...
 
6:50 PM
when you do math at the hardest level it will ever get (math degree, physics degree) then you tend to think anything below the hardest is easy
when in reality, people struggle with basic integration
 
idk i'm taking a couple of math courses relating to crypto undergrad so we'll see
 
yeah that's the best you can do
you already have the passion which most of the people won't have
so you just gotta see if it's something you can handle doing
 
nerds are underrated
 
Tim
and you're young. I started working at 26
 
I think I started at 21 or 22
I feel old
 
6:53 PM
boomers
 
I started at 18, you all lazy developed country inhabitants
 
I prefer coomer thanks
@RaymondArteaga well I got my first job at 13 lol
first programming job at 21/22 tho
 
I'm talking about paid jobs
 
I was paid for all 15+ of my jobs over my life
 
otherwise I started at 5yo
 
6:55 PM
I worked at a restaurant at 13
got a paycheque and shiiit
sounds like they need to work you underdeveloped countries a bit harder, no wonder you're all so poor
 
I'm on a pretty decent country now
 
lol I was just kidding
harsh joke
my b
 
I remembered I still have family in there. So the tsunami will have to wait
 
haha
 
i gotta go read the communist manifesto cya o/
 
7:00 PM
You go there and burn it later
 
@JBis you should read the unibomber's manifesto too, real good stuff
 
 
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8:22 PM
omg lol
I had such a bad interview yesterday, where I just totally froze up during the general coding question and couldn't think straight
so I was supposed to have another 2 hours of interviews with them today, and I'm sitting there waiting for them to let me into the meeting room and check my email and realize that they sent me a breakup email
 
D:
oh no
 
hahahaha
yeah, I was like.. oh... ohhhh... oh boy
Have gotten a lot of breakup texts lately xD
from both companies and people lmao
 
TT^TT
 
don't they know who I think I am?!
 
The audacity!
 
8:27 PM
hahaha
on a lighter note though, I thought my job knew for sure I was quitting and maybe they were going to lay me off.. but it turns out they have other plans for me
so I can stretch this job search out longer than I thought
 
xD
 
jokes!
 
I feel old
what is that
am I supposed to know?
 
audacity
 
8:29 PM
audacity
 
re: communist manifesto

i got into a mini debate with my teacher about whether it's bad to think of people (or their labor) as commodities
 
ohhh did they change the logo?
I remember it being something different 15 years ago when I used it xD
@twiz lmao her response was "My reply is in the “subject” of this Email "
@JBis lol sounds like a fun time
reminds me of a reddit post I saw yesterday where an american was asking how he could pay his workers in Austria the american minimum wage of $7.25 instead of the Austrian minimum wage of $20
 
8:44 PM
@JBis I thought you were jk
I'd love to spend 5 minutes with you on a call
 
junior kindergarten?
 
I have some naughty things to tell you
 
about communism
 
he's just gonna play despacito for 5 minutes
 
8:49 PM
You are a theory lover tho 🤔 so trying to convince you it's the worst thing in the world might take me more than 5 mins
 
@RaymondArteaga you'll be preaching to choir
 
@JBis ?? aren't you communist?
 
@RaymondArteaga No lol
 
he's pretty much marx himself
 
Now I'm confused
 
8:50 PM
Bb 🙄
 
lolol
 
@RaymondArteaga I'm very much against communism
and the normalization of communism in the US
Tbh I'm probably more capitalistic than your average Republican
 
I feel like the US has the least normal views on communism lol
 
@JBis That's what a communist would say to sagaciously sell me their prac
 
@ballBreaker is the one with red in his pp, attack him
 
8:53 PM
No need to attack a communist
they will get extinct at some point
 
oh no
@JBis lmao
hey guys does this look infected to you? whips out red pp
 
lol
 
Oy
 
even crabs are communist now?
down with the crabs
 
@ballBreaker wdym?
 
8:57 PM
mostly referring to the massive amounts of anti communist propaganda from the cold war era (and up to now)
not saying that it's a great system, but I think most of the world considers it not to be a working government system but america thinks its literally the devil
but maybe I'm wrong
 
@ballBreaker The devil is the communism's youngest child
I tell you as a victim
 
@ballBreaker yeah that's fair, but as per usual we've over corrected
 
9:54 PM
Is this sentence well structured: "In another vein, we would love to discuss the possibility of a partnership."??
like I talked about one subject, and now I want to discus abut something else. Totally unrelated to the previous topic
Is "In another vein" the correct phrase to use here?
 
@RaymondArteaga "on a separate note"
 
Thanks
 
Tim
or "Btw dudes,"
 
 const int width = 3;
  const int height = 5;
  const int value = 42;
  Matrix_init(mat, 3, 5);
da faq is the point of width and height vars then
i hate this dumb class
 
don't let it define you
#unsollicitedAdvice101
 
10:08 PM
@JBis Arguing with teachers is the best of school
 
10:57 PM
Guys! Guys!
(and Womper)
I just got a job offer four head of mobile development at a big software house! Hurray!
 
Tim
congrats my dude
 
Eeee!
 
Tim
does that mean you can hire all of us and give us 1 million $$ salaries?
 
Thanks Tim :) only people i can tell that know what that means, sorry for being excited
 
Tim
well it's an impressive career move, of course you are
 
11:00 PM
Although I'm going to have to learn iOS and weirdly, probably stop developing o.o
 
Tim
11:13 PM
there are times I wish I didn't have to develop
the shit we have to deal with
 
I mean, I now get to be the one to deal with that for others
 
11:52 PM
@Graeme congrats brother
I'm trying to keep it like 80/20 - 80 operations / 20 coding
but usually its like 100% operations
 
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