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I believe the word you are looking for is "theft". lol
00:26
lol okay anywhere familiar with "reverse-engineering"
JavaScript tends to be much easier at this
user14782088
I solved, apparently grandle does not support jdk 16 so I installed jdk 15 and all works perfectly, thanks to all who helped me :)
01:11
posted on July 09, 2021 by Saurabh Chaudhary

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04:35
good morning
good morning nitesh
how are you?
fine bro
my 1 help in functionality so help me @Bhargav
Morning!
Too much discussion CRAB CRAB!
I used 1 image from gallery and after that give the photo filter effect them image . so far its fine . but when i have do the save this image then display only simple image not show filter effect . i have try do it last 1 day . but no got it out put
05:26
I am here after 3 months (i forgot about this room lol).
05:44
why you are being here!
do you all want to do 9-5 job?
Can anybody help me with my question please? stackoverflow.com/questions/68273585/…
05:57
@ballBreaker what?
I don't think so :D
 
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07:28
@perpetualdarkness no
07:56
0
Q: Messenger(FB) app that does not run in background

WilliamOn Windows Phone and iOS messaging apps(like Facebook Messenger) simply use push notifications. Is there an option only to only enable push notifications for FB messenger on Android? Right now it continues to run in the background draining battery.

what phone are you using?
08:07
@grrigore nexus and moto 1
08:42
@Lime dontkillmyapp.com check out this site
you can also google moto 1 push notifications troubleshoot or something
09:06
@Lime so you want fb to NOT run in the background and only allow it push notifications?
@asim correct
just like Windows Phone & iOS
Only on your phone or you creating something like a mod?
a mod sounds interesting
go on
Doubt fb app will be happy about any modifications but you can try reverse engineering and add some task into its background thread that kills itself after x seconds
Sounds stupid but it might just work xD
Tim
Tim
good luck recompiling it
09:21
tim do you work at facebook? seems like you are not happy about modifications :D
are the latest version of facebook still built on react native?
eli
eli
[ Hi ]
Tim
Tim
09:38
no but it's a bit far fetched to think that you can modify the app and recompile a release build that works
lol
I don't think you are right about the fb app
what if i get battery usage
what about this?
Tim
Tim
@Lime prove me wrong, please
@Tim agree, thats why i said i doubt it will be happy about modifications
okay I have lineage os installed
its clear its running in the background with no way to stop it
here is a picture of battery usage
2m of battery usage used
@Tim
09:55
If you have lineage i am guessing you also have root, just kill it with fire
I mean something like greenify
See if that helps
Try lucky patcher it can strip apps of some permissions too
If you go by my suggestions you agree to the terms and conditions,accept that there are risks involved and that i will not be responsible if your phone starts mining bitcoin for someone else
@Tim so I'm like 95% certain I'm right now because if I kill the app notifications do not come throught at all
why should notifications and force stop be linked that doesn't make any sense
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Jul 9 '20 at 20:08, by Dave S

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Any of you guys capable of drinking/eating raw uncooked egg?
Tim
Tim
10:52
@Lime that's expected, apps that are forced stopped are not capable of doing anything and they will not receive push notifications
11:22
@asim but what for?
11:34
hi hello
Tim
Tim
12:05
hi g-truck
12:39
@asim I can do it, once
(I'm fatally allergic to eggs)
oh
what a shame :(
12:58
o/
how is everybody doing?
Tim
Tim
my phone screen only shows about 2% of the screen and my new one is delayed
TGIF
your new percentage is delayed?
what
 
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14:37
o/
15:03
yo
Word
Where is Adam, I have a Kotlin academic question
What is the difference between:
- loadOffer(offerId).observe(viewLifecycleOwner, Observer<Offer> { offer -> {})
And
- loadOffer(offerId).observe(viewLifecycleOwner) { offer -> }
There we go, pleasant formatting :D
Tim
Tim
there is no difference, but the latter is preferred
One doesn't compile
I think it's because it's hitting a Java method where there is Generics in the arguments but not the method?
- public void observe(@NonNull LifecycleOwner owner, @NonNull Observer<? super T> observer) {
Think it would allow both if it was
- fun <T> observer(owner : LifecycleOwner, observer : Observer<out T>)
I mean, it's nothing to do with what I'm trying to get done, I'm just curious
Tim
Tim
15:19
maybe you need viewmodel-ktx dependency, idk
or livedata-ktx
15:31
I have both :D
But that wouldn't change how syntax works
Just thought you guys would find it interesting
no
but thanks for trying
lol jk
almost on the third book of wheel of time :d
is getting good
Tim
Tim
I'm using both livedata.observe(viewLifecycleOwner, Observer {}) and livedata.observe(viewLifecycleOwner) { } and they are exactly the same thing
I wonder why for you it's different
15:55
@Tim I think it's to do with it not being able to infer the type of the Observer ?
16:13
youtube comments are gold
> Sponsored by Google Search... never heard of them, I'll be sure to check them out.
16:42
posted on July 09, 2021 by Android Developers

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Tim
Tim
17:00
if loadOffer returns a livedata then both compile if you have the right overload. You can't
17:20
@ballBreaker love those books, read them through my childhood as they came out
 
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19:04
@Pochmurnik because i saw a youtube vid they made a drink from raw egg i thought maybe it was normal to drink eggs because i won't drink it even on gunpoint
@RaghavSood whenever i hear about allergies i feel bad coz i have none, not even dust allergy, many of my family and relatives have different allergies and i wonder i can like donate them blood or something to help them lol
anyone give me a positive of Android over iOS?
Many think its a lie but i often get stung by wasps and a mosquito bite is more painful for me than the waso sting, been stung by diff wasps same result
Tim
Tim
it's not iOS
5
And not made by apple
@Lime more competition, better backwards compatibility, not forced into apple eco system, cheaper & more accessible repairs, more competition among device makers, better specs/ cheaper phones just to name a few
iOS is basically buying into a monopoly and saying I'm willing to pay 2x for 75% of the product with limited options to leave
19:16
I hate apple because of three reasons:
1: over hyped
2: their cost
3: they are good at planned + perceived obsolescence fooling people into paying them and more for no good reason
my experience on backwards compatibility has been the opposite but the other points are solid
I have owned 2 android phones since like 2010
samsung galaxy nexus and the pixel 2 xl
I used galaxy s4 for 6~7 years, eventually dropped it to its death
I develop apps for both, I frequently have to drop support for old iOS devices because xcode updates force me into it
I can still develop for android phones that are 8 years old
my friends that have iOS phones upgrade every 1-2 years out of necessity
I upgrade every 5 years
@DaveS Good to know coz i never tried ios development, get ready to be annoyed with stupid noob questions incase i do
19:21
feel free to ask, I'll feel free to not answer =p
Tim
Tim
@Lime that's weird. iOS practically has no backwards compatibility
@DaveS i know you i just have to say x does not work in ios and you will start explaining how it does
nah fuck iOS
you can think it doesn't work, that fits my narrative
All i need is a little manipulation
Lol
Do you do windows development like c#? @DaveS
19:30
no but bought a windows PC back when windows phone was like 5% of the market so we could if needed
I mean on regular basis
Oh
@Tim the official(well used to be I think) stackexchange app no longer works on Android does on my iPhone
that has everything to do with stackexchange and nothing to do with android
They also stopped maintaining/updating it ages ago ig
Yeah it still works on my iPhone though :D
19:33
how old is your iphone and how old is your android?
iPhone 12 Pro
Android is a nexus running 6.0 I think
so an OS that hasn't been updated in 3 years vs the latest iphone and you think that's a comparison of backwards compatability?
its the only thing I have noticed. 1 data point isn't good you are right.
I went from the iPhone 6s to 12
and the apps all came over so it isn't that bad
its the only app I miss on my Android device
Funny that on every website the weather shows heavy rain for all upcoming days
50
Q: Why did the Stack Exchange Android app disappear from the Play Store?

Meta Andrew T.Stack Exchange developed 2 mobile apps: Stack Exchange app and Stack Overflow app. The Stack Overflow app has been delisted for a while from the respective store: What happened to the Stack Overflow app for Android? Stack Overflow Mobile app removed from iOS App Store? However, just recently, t...

19:37
yeah it's because they aren't supporting it
I can still target the earliest versions of android if I really wanted to, we only upgrade our minimum target due to dependencies we want to use and low market share
it's up to our discretion as developers who we want to support
in contrast to develop and support the latest iOS versions I have to drop support for older iOS versions
Apple chooses when devices lose support and they do so frequently
planned obsolescence
Okay why should an application continue to run in the background if its notifications are disabled?
Tim
Tim
why would those 2 things be related in any way
I'll rephrase - Why should FB messenger run in the background if notifications are disabled?
In fact I have never needed an app to run in the background like ever.
maybe Spotify that's it
19:53
on Android facebook messenger runs overlays so it's kinda always in the background
I hate it, and only use it because my family uses it
That's fairly stupid
but that draggable bubble overlay I think is why
okay I what those disabled then
anyways I'm kinda an iOS snob at this point
Tim
Tim
didn't expect that at all
turn off "Display over other apps" and "Picture in Picture"
in the advanced app settings
19:55
I will try but I believe it still runs in the backrgound
or set nothing can bubble
Tim
Tim
why don't you just uninstall the app and be done with it
2 mins ago, by Dave S
I hate it, and only use it because my family uses it
Tim
Tim
but you have an iphone. Just use the iOS version
lol that's exactly why I do I use an iPhone
19:58
with more freedom comes responsibility and those who abuse it
I see articles that state "Apple is eating our lunch" and I am not shocked at all
there's an article for every view point though
Apple is only really popular in the US
and Japan
anyways settings that should be available on LineageOS I fail to find which are defaults on iOS
72.83% is high but not that high
Tim
Tim
cool story now stop complaining
is iOS market share slowing shrinking?
aka is the Android market share slowing growing?
meeeh so they are both growing iOS and Android
20:19
When public interest changes, things shrink and grow, it is as simple as that
It also depends on harmons tho
Like how people are genatically willing to spend more i meant
Tim
Tim
your data is 3 years out of date btw
lol you are right but nothing went back far enough. If you find a graph that gives trends since ~09 then post it because I could find nothing.
Tim
Tim
I'm not gonna do your research for you but thanks for the offer
lol kinda weird that you're comparing open source lineage to big budget apple in terms of settings
also like 5 year difference in terms of release dates
you gotta get a brand new android if you wanna compare apples to apples with your brand new iPhone
the iPhone SE is $400 and the Pixel is $350 not that different
20:30
LineageOS != Normal Android OS
I'm confused isn't comparing LineageOS to iOS being generous
Tim
Tim
yes, for you
comparing a nexus running Android 6.0 Lineage OS to an iPhone 12 or even the 6SE which is supported by the latest iOS versions isn't a fair comparison no
that is simply for backwards compatibility
I also own a moto 1
the features haven't changed very much
what android version is it?
I usually find iOS lags behind android by 1-2 years in most features
20:36
oreo I think
Tim
Tim
how dare you! iOS good android bad!
that's from 2017
Android 11 would be a fairer comparison
I want past notifications on Android
still doesn't have it on Android
android has had them since 2018
Tim
Tim
he is taking some time off
20:38
I'm just gonna start making comparisons to iOS 8 vs Android 11
I would prefer not to have to install an app and all the apps I have installed display duplicate notificatiotns
Tim
Tim
have you seen those insanely innovative widgets on iOS btw?
on the lockscreen?
Lime, those are all features on modern Android
the thing they deprecated because of battery life
20:40
How many times do I have to emphasize that you're comparing features from 4-5 years ago to features on IOS that are recent innovations
like no shit your 5 year old phone doesn't have the features on your brand new iPhone
I was being kinda sarcastic there
sorry, hard to tell
Tim
Tim
I guess you don't know what a widget is, which is weird because it is the supreme iOS' most recent new feature
3rd party app workarounds I often don't count because they are so bad on battery or glitchy or well just suck
I miss the notification badges on Android they still haven't added that with native counting
samsung phones have it but they are not built in to the OS and terribly drain the battery
stock android is superior
20:43
no it is not
you don't want the mobile carrier / device manufacturer version
I'd rather have my battery
and I have notification badges on my phone
5
Q: All Notification Tray Items Dismissed When Opening App

WilliamSo on my iPhone the notification tray items disappear when I have viewed the message inside the actual application. Windows Phone works the same way. While all notification tray items for that app disappear when I open that application. I do not like that all my notifications have disappeared....

Tim
Tim
dude please
that's application specific
nothing to do with android OS
it was standardized on iOS and Windows Phone
because they had what I call "native counting" of applicationts
Tim
Tim
20:45
nobody cares man, go to the iOS chat room to preach your almighty phone
Where in stock android does it display number counts
does it need to?
that's my point they work entirely differently on iOS and Andoird
are you unable to count your notifications from the tray?
you either have not used an iPhone
20:46
in modern android versions they are grouped in channels and show you how many they are
or don't understand what I am talking about
I know what you're talking about but it's a silly feature
it adds 0 utility
a count of notifications over the app icon vs a count in the tray
who cares
seeing if you have unread messages in your app is better IMO but you have decided it doesn't matter
I have no problem seeing unread messages
I care microsoft did but now you are right very few people care
20:48
I don't know what problem you're taking about
I think the issue here is iOS trained you to solve a problem in a very specific way and you don't want to learn a different way of doing it
in which case stay with iOS
they are different because they are different products
@DaveS no its convenience windows phone and samsung agree on this
pandering to iOS customers is what you mean
finding unread messages is not a problem in my experience, not even slightly
look windows mobile predates all this and the japanese market and they did not match android
windows mobile failed
sigh windows mobile was not capacitive to begin with so its not a fair comparison unless in context
20:51
so you just pick what context is fair for your argument?
windows mobile != windows phone
sorry I forget they called windows phone windows mobile
its really confusing
look if you want to continue to pay more than you need for inferior hardware and software that's your choice you don't need to argue with android chat about it
but your experiences with android are 5 years out of date
that's all that really needs to be said here
so what new features have they introduced since Oreo change this because I haven't seen many
that's fair though
Tim
Tim
impressive chatting for a blind man
a ton man, Oreo came out in 2017
you can google the changelog
20:55
so they changed the colors of the pull down menus
the most notable are around notifications and privacy/permissions
link? I would be interested in that
dear god
> Starting with Android P, an app won't be able to access your camera, microphone, or most of its sensors while it's running in the background — unless it makes it perfectly clear to you that it's doing so.
Tim
Tim
?
20:59
thats like iOS 1
I know I developed for the original iOS
Tim
Tim
when did iOS introduce widgets again?
oh yeah, in the latest version
I don't care about the widgets
Tim
Tim
when android? Oh yea in 1783
well my dude, we don't care about any iOS features
@DaveS something is dated about that article or wrong
background apps aren't really allowed
21:02
it's about iOS 14
in iOS
aren't allowed and doing it anyway are two different things
iOS has shitty software
give me an example
literally the article I just linked
the original iPhone didn't allow this
post steve jobs days have been bumpy
21:03
doesn't mean their security features aren't insufficient
we're talking about a comparison of Android and iOS today
you were worried about a 2018 security feature being added to Android, I pointed out that iOS had this vulnerability in 2020
if you want to pretend it doesn't exist then that's on you
marketing vs reality dude
Tim
Tim
29 mins ago, by Tim
how dare you! iOS good android bad!
@DaveS I should send you a picture of my background app data permissions
and to compare post steve jobs iOS to andrdoid is not a fair comparison
on your Android 8?
everything has gone down hill slightly
they got rid of magsafe of all things
dude, what's on the market today?
steve jobs is dead
get your head out of your ass
if you wanna live in the past go get a windows 95 machine
Tim
Tim
21:08
why would he get a windows 95 that has less processing power than his iPhone 12 it doesn't even have the same features
I'm not anti-android its just made by a data collection compny
so I don't trust them
do you think Apple doesn't collect data?
Tim
Tim
2 mins ago, by Dave S
get your head out of your ass
LOL yeah if you want to compare modern phones that is fine by me
did you come here just to have an Android vs iOS debate?
if you actually have questions about Android, sure but I'm not interested in debating. It's a worn out topic
21:16
anyways yeah I have 1 app/widget idea
I want to display widgets of the app but have that apps notifications muted
you want an app that controls other apps behavior?
yes! how did you know?
pretty sure that's not possible unless you're a system level app with elevated permissions or on a rooted phone
you could do it maybe with MDM and enterprise distribution
It is just notifyer(search the app on the play store) + muted app combined
you won't be able to mute other apps and what you'd get from the playstore is what you'd be able to scrape from the web or an API
if you want to mute apps you need to mute them in the settings
ah that's with a special permission for it to manage your notifications
haven't used that permission didn't know it existed
the notification app probably not so hard, you have access to all that data, it might interfere with opening notifications though
the notifyer replacing app icons with widgets is kinda weird, the reviews show what I would expect, that it's gonna be hard to make it work well
the reviews are mostly angry because native counting was removed
yeah it hasn't been updated
probably broke on some version
21:32
it was updated and they just removed the feature
maintaining parity with the icon changes is probably the tough part
last updated > June 9, 2019
I have tried upwork for my app idea and it isn't clear to me if anyone actually understands what I am asking for
but you seem to
do you actually have a budget?
I was going to pay hourly
anyways nobody seemed to understand
at our firm this could be 50-100k
hard to say without discovery
21:34
your joking
USD?
yeah
we're not for mom and pop shops
us developer agency hourly rates are anywhere from 100-300/hr
you might find someone on upwork for $20/hr but you're gonna need to handhold
I would assume with decompiling an app like this would be easy
you can't just decompile an app, steal the code and release it
you are right I'll need github pilot
or whatever they are calling it
I can obfuscate the code
there's also the whole theft thing
21:38
I need like a russian hacker
Tim
Tim
we know just the person
100k seems really steep
Tim
Tim
but she hasn't been around
well that would be discovery, design, development of front end and backends, monetization etc
100k is a medium size project
my favorite app on the play store is play.google.com/store/apps/…
and then they natively added the functionality I believe in Android 9
@DaveS do you have a most used or favorite app
21:59
not like that
Pretty happy with the stock experience on my pixel
apps are more social / work or games
which pixel do you have
Pixel 2 XL
this video isn't bad assuming its accurate

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