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5:07 PM
lol
 
vaccine time, brb
 
Congrats on the 5G upgrade
 
Im booked for saturday. whoop!
 
@tim
What is your opinion on this
 
Mw - I feel you just got me added to a watch list
 
5:20 PM
just?
@JBis Have you ever really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
 
I mean, usually I use proxies when I'm planning my world takeover
 
well you are a polar bear, gotta speed up whatever you are planning before my cars melt your house
 
:o
 
@MwBakker yes
 
ok
 
Tim
5:37 PM
@MwBakker they don't specify the salary
"you will be pleasantly surprised by your salary" fucking liars, if that was the case you would say what it was on the listing
 
haha I read that part
but I know how to negociate, so it's fine
 
Tim
do you know what you are worth?
 
between 2300 and 2800 bruto (gross)
I can mention in this room that I am willing to go down on salary if the function really fits me
but ofc not on the interview
 
5:52 PM
So does anyone have any idea what is the first phone or arm processor to support Java byte code
 
Tim
aim higher, 2300 is quite low for a technical job
 
thanks tim
But the function looks good, it's the exact dynamic between physical factor and programming that I seek for
 
Tim
always aim for more than you think you should earn. People usually think too little of themselves, me included
 
so im worried, cause it looks too good while I know what I search for and with the character I have something fitting rarely exists
 
Tim
well it's a government job so it can't be that good right
 
5:55 PM
I have tried android before it always seemed slightly off UI compared to my iPhone. I have a nexus 5 but that is the last Android phone i have used
 
@Tim Ill have to find out
 
Tim
:p
 
where else would an IT person be required the things listed in that function I have no idea but in the defensie
but I get really enthousiastic reading it
 
Tim
@Lime nexus 5 is only like 10 years old it should be a good representation of what modern android is like
 
@MwBakker hopefully you don't have stalkers
 
Tim
5:57 PM
@MwBakker well you have nothing to lose by applying right? And if you start with a higher salary in the negotiations what is the worst thing that can happen
 
the worst is that I might be wearing pink glasses and that reality sucks
 
what?
 
I'm fairly certain you are not being sarcastic
 
but physical excersize always does me well
 
Tim
I am never sarcastic
8
 
5:59 PM
xD
 
What android phones do you guys use then
I am hoping this Java byte code thing added some speed
 
google pixel 4a
 
Ribbit
Hello Lime!
Did you payed the standard contribution already?
 
Hello raymomd I apologize lime makes no noise
 
Tim
@Lime it doesn't matter but I mean that nexus 5 is 8 years old, compare it to an iphone 5 or else it's not fair
neither of those will give you the modern experience
 
6:05 PM
@Lime No problem. Tho I'd like to be addressed as Mr. Froggo, if you don't mind
 
Okay I should reimage the nexus and mess around with
 
Tim
or throw it in the trash where it belongs
 
The microphone doesn't work and it's running a custom rom right now
 
@Lime Motorola Droid 4
 
Just discovered this in case somebody cares:
http://www.dns-sd.org/trailingdotsindomainnames.html
 
6:07 PM
@Lime Lime, please fill in our questionaire
 
web servers should be able to answer requests with domain names with trailing dots
 
Tim
don't tell jbis
 
Time to go~~
Cya tomorrow Everyone!!!! :D
 
Tim
later w-wing
 
bye womp
 
6:13 PM
That is a really weird questionaire
I am already in the room so what does the questionnaire get me
 
respect
 
I am on my phone right now so maybe later
 
Tim
he thinks it's optional
 
not a good start
 
The Moto Droid 4 is ancient for the most part
I know I own one of the Droid phones it might be that one
 
Tim
6:23 PM
Same category as nexus
 
No I own the Droid you are right that is ancient
 
it's the biggest screen for a qwerty phone working in the EU, I do not have many other options
 
You could try the blackberrys or titan but yeah you have a screen problem. I find autocorrect to be decent enough on SwiftKey otherwise yeah I would probably need a keyboard
 
I just wanted slider phones back but it was too much to ask
 
I wish we had windows phones sometimes I think you eld
Would have gotten your slider phone
 
6:33 PM
I had a Samsung omnia qwerty which to today is still my favorite phone
 
Windows mobile has a lot of problems android won I guess we make the best of the situation
 
@Tim I cheered too soon, I just read the application hires people up to the age of 27 max
Also it's for MBO4 so there is no programming involved at all
 
I'm Under 27
 
I wish there was a job that had programming with some physical factors like being in the field but such rarely exists
2
Or do 3 days of programming and 2 days a different job.. I can't find it
 
o/
 
6:41 PM
\o
 
\o
 
so an engineer? How's working on oil rigs
 
@MwBakker Field software engineer
I am not kidding, it's actually a job
It won't make you work in the fields but you would be travelling
Probably that's the closest thing...
 
robotics?
 
@Taseer ill google what that function means
 
6:46 PM
IIRC it's about providing solutions by travelling to different locations and mostly meeting clients on behalf of your company. It's a mix of engineering + marketing + travelling
Probably not the easiest one to get into
Arctic MX-4 is perhaps the most authentic and truly working product I have ever bought
I love it, bless Arctic
 
@Taseer well at least thank you for the info
 
7:04 PM
What you are looking for is probably not the easiest to find. But you could try something out as a hobby like IoT and provide some solutions to locals with your ideas
 
I do not have the responsibility to start for myself yet
 
Tim
7:20 PM
@MwBakker nice age discrimination
 
this second dose turned me into mr sleepy
can't stop yawning
 
you got your second vaccine shot?
 
yeah just got it
 
congrats!
 
thanks ^_^
 
7:29 PM
do you guys still have mask mandates?
i went to the supermarket last weekend without a mask for first time
 
7:42 PM
oh wow
yeah we do
Idk how I feel about masks going away so soon
with the delta variant it doesn't make sense
On a selfish level I'd love to stop wearing masks, but the infection % is still decently bad on the delta variant with full vaccination and very bad off one dose
but yeah I guess I'll let the professionals decide something like that haha, I guess it depends if the goal is to eliminate covid or just prevent people from being hospitalized
removing the mask mandate inside the next 6-12months will accomplish the latter but not the former
 
Tim
when are the next elections bb?
 
that being said canada is #1 in the world for 1st doses, and our second dose percentage is climbing super fast at 25% now
@Tim hmm probably next year, I honestly forget
 
Tim
so removing the mask mandate in the next 6-12 months is a good way to win a lot of votes right
 
our next provincial election is 2022
mmmm maybe not here
if he removed the mask mandate and canadians know about what I mentioned above then they'll be pissed they're prolonging covid further
 
7:48 PM
@ballBreaker i'm comfortable
 
nice well as long as you're comfortable
it's nice because we get to use the USA as guinea pigs on reopening early
 
:D
 
its weird your mask mandate is gone though considering you only have 59% first dose haha
in new york
and only 53% country wide
on a different note, hows your school stuff been going?
 
@ballBreaker there's like no wait to get vaccines so if you want one you can get one. So I think at this point, for me at least, if you haven't gotten one (or you aren't in the process of getting one) then it's natural selection at that point
 
bahahah that's honestly fair for the most part
 
Tim
8:00 PM
well it's ok because many americans are morbidly obese and those are not affected as much by covid
 
like the real people suffering from that logic are the people who want to get vaccinated but can't for various health reasons.. but yeah
 
ofc
 
can only do so much really
@Tim xD
 
@ballBreaker hs graduation in two days \o/, and then college orientation in one week
 
I was seeing something that was a simpsons episode in the 90s and it had 260lbs as comically obese
and now that's like the average american weight
@JBis oooo nice, your college is starting in one week already?? or is it an orientation before your start in the fall?
 
8:03 PM
orientation is prior to starting. I choose classes and a bunch of other stuff.
I plan on taking ECON 101, Calc I, Intro to Psychology, and Intro to Political Theory for my first semester
 
oh nice! sounds like fun
is it a general first year?
or are you in an arts-sci degree
did you take biology classes in high school?
 
I'm doing a special program where I get to choose all my classes. I chose the classes I wanted to take and worked backwards. I wanted first semester to be on the easier side as I get used to everything. Also I needed to fulfill prereqs. Second semester it picks up a bit.
@ballBreaker yes
 
interesting
it's a general science degree, then?
 
Yes, but you get to write whatever on your resume
 
@JBis nice, those should all be easy then
 
8:10 PM
@ballBreaker Don't have to take any :)
 
hardest one there would be intro to psych just based on the biology shit you need to learn, but you already learn it all in highschool if you took biology
 
Ah, that's what you mean
 
yeah I knew alot of people who struggled with that class for that reason
 
Yeah I'm more interested in the social aspect, hopefully they teach that
 
it likely won't get that deep if it was similar to the intro to psych at my school
but it's pretty much required for all the cool classes that come after so v0v
 
8:12 PM
One of the nice things is I get to take some really interesting courses
 
I'm slightly envious, I only had a lot of flexibility in my last 2 years
with my last year being 100% flexible
 
> SOC 392 - Russia and the Soviet Union: Reform, Revolution, and the Socialist Experiment (4)
 
it'd be kind of weird hiring someone with your degree though haha
 
> POLSCI 353 - The Arab Israeli Conflict (4)
^ might get kicked out of that one
 
lol
then you'll know how the arabs feel
 
8:14 PM
apparently half the professors are like anti-semtiic and the other half are antipalestinian...figures i guess
 
yeah that conflict is a little too easy to pick sides
for a lot of people
it seems like a lot of people have strong opinions based on very little research.. not saying your profs will be like that lmao hopefully they aren't
 
@ballBreaker Yes and no. I think (and I went over the classes with a big crypto guy) I get a better cryptography education than normal math or CS degree.
I basically took the math major and cs major, and combined it, then took out all the irrelevant shit.
 
was there a crypto degree as well?
but yeah I meant more from the standpoint of having to actually look through your course list/transcript in more detail
I think you usually assume the curriculum based off the program title, but with yours that might be trickier, not that it's really a disadvantage in the long run
sounds like overall you'll get an advantage you'll just have to be clear
 
No. But I am taking every course that mentions "security" or "cryptography" in it's description :D. Half of my senior year is first year graduate level courses.
@ballBreaker Yeah exactly
 
haha nice
as long as you have the prerequisites you should be good
be careful though, if the courses are too hard/grueling it could turn you off from that shit
 
8:21 PM
Here's my thinking, the first job maybe a bit difficult to get. maybe the second, but after that nobody really cares about my degree as long as I have good experience and I will have a much better education than most others (hopefully).
 
I'm assuming your senior year isn't set in stone now though eh?
 
@ballBreaker nope. i can change anything at anytime
 
yeah, gravy
I took engineering physics and hated physics by the end lol
purely because of how fucking hard it was
but you'll get a better idea of that as you go
 
I took physics in HS. My teacher was an idiot. I remember she gave a 40 min lecture on why COVID wasn't a big deal and then the next day the school was shutdown for months.
 
hahaha
I loved physics up until it was 40 hour weeks of class and 10 assignments minimum per week + labs
 
8:24 PM
yeah school i think can def ruin your interest in something
Did you take any polisci classes?
 
hmm not that I can remember
I had to take some non-technical electives and I chose Ancient Humour and somehow got Cognitive Science to count as a non-technical elective lmao
which I then used as a prereq to take a ton of AI courses
 
lol nice
 
Tim
meanwhile we get all the boring shit
 
yeah i can't remember how I pulled that off, I was missing the intro to psych pre-req for it too :D haha yolo
@Tim what'd you have to take?
im gonna try to find my transcript and see if I'm missing anything else
 
you should send your transcript so we can make fun of your grades
 
8:31 PM
bahaha
 
Tim
@ballBreaker in HS?
 
no in university for BS courses
@JBis my grades weren't that great, but that's the beauty of engineering
you'll basically get hired with a 50%
 
and then only work 50% of the time
:D
 
Tim
we didn't get to choose. Just learn a bit about hardware, bit about software, here is your degree good luck in the real world bye
 
haha nah you'll work more than the average person
engineers are slaves
poor souls
 
8:33 PM
tbh i'm kinda concerned i'll do poorly
 
@Tim ahhh okay
@JBis if there's anything I've learned is that experience means more than your grades, and most employers understand this as well
unless you're trying to get into a graduate degree, in which cases grades matter a lot more
but I scored like median grades and had no issues landing a job
 
@ballBreaker Yeah hopefully. The crypto guy I was talking to said a similar thing which is reassuring.
 
looks like I ended up with a 2.55 GPA / 4.3
 
@ballBreaker I'm not sure yet. Half of me wants to go for a PhD and the other half of me is saying "are you fucking crazy"
 
Tim
if you make a good impression in an interview and show eagerness to learn and progress on the job, which I think you will have no problem with, then nobody gives a shit about your education
 
8:36 PM
i will def interview well in the sense of personality and technicals but if people start asking me bullshit coding questions i will fail
 
@JBis decide after your second year
lol that's usually where I fall apart as well
I'll woo them with my charming personality and then disgust them with my inability to write shit on a whiteboard while 4 people stare at me
like bro I don't even do well at exams when nobody is watching
and it's mostly just because IDGAF
 
I kinda find my comments from a couple years ago really funny
Dec 11 '19 at 21:41, by JBis
Reasons why i will never do crypto ^^
 
haha yeah this is the aging thing we've told you about before
 
i shat on crypto for a while, oh well
 
It happens a bit between ages of 12-18 but then every single year after you're like fuuuuck I said that last year?
at least to me haha
 
8:41 PM
lol
well im out for now
cya all o/
 
cya man
 
Tim
9:11 PM
when I was new here I got upset with warren because he said fuck
 
yo tim
have you ever tried to do a sign in with google using webview?
 
@Tim hahaha
 
Tim
9:28 PM
no we only use webviews for displaying websites
 
right
why everything has to be this hard
 
Tim
10:06 PM
it's good for job security
 
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