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1:08 AM
Hey everyone, recently I came to know that different cellphone companies are slowing down their older model phones or decreasing their battery performances through software updates. Now I am not an android developer however I am curious is it possible to slow down phones with software updates? I guess one way could be to create zombie processes unnecessarily to eat your ram. It is just my curiosity. I am not even sure if it is on topic here. Any comments on this topic would be great.
 
 
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5:00 AM
o/
 
 
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7:00 AM
o/
@Tim flagged
 
7:25 AM
@IvanMilisavljevic that's what I said
 
7:59 AM
@Mistu4u well I guess it's possible
where did you read about it?
 
8:20 AM
dead room
 
I can add drama to the matter
 
8:52 AM
@Mistu4u sure it is possible. You can fake less RAM being free, you can reduce the speed stepping of the CPU to anything making it perform slower (by reacting slower to demands). The battery lifecycle though is a different topic because you might still see 100% capacity but in reality it is only 80% because your battery aged as well and has a reduced capacity already. My Nexus 10 for example lives with 100% charged state exactly 5 minutes until it drops to 0% and shuts down
 
lol
 
@Mistu4u what Warren said: it is possible they change kernel settings through this update
A solution to the matter is a flashing custom kernel or ROM or if you are really good you can trace these values yourself and reset them (requires unlocked bootloader)
You have now also found out why some phone companies lock their bootloaders: this is NOT solely for security reasons (if that is actually even a motive)
they don't want you to remove their software they have contract with (like amazon) or change values to make the phone perform better and last longer
 
o/
 
Tim
sup cf
 
not much
wbu?
 
9:03 AM
t!m
 
ah the knife dutch guy and the dutch victim
nice
 
@MwBakker i am all ears
 
@JAAD ?
@MuratKaragöz did you read about my Fez story?
 
@MwBakker that was a joke because tim considers you a threat
and as always tims runs away
 
9:05 AM
@MuratKaragöz I dk how to link you to it
@MuratKaragöz another drama is I got snitched at work for my social media posts
 
hold on, give me a step by step rundown on what happened
 
I have conroversial humor, and that is visible on my instagram. All good and fine, I do not relate my current job to social media at all anyway
somebody has dug through my posts, found something he/she didn't like and reported this to my manager. My manager asked me to remove the posts or set my social stuff to private
 
Tim
and we told him to tell them to go fuck themselves
 
setting my social stuff to private is a good idea but the whole intention of reporting the photos to my manager is bad intend
 
Tim
we call this being a little bitch, and you don't want little bitches as colleagues
3
 
9:24 AM
it isn't anybody in my development team because they dont even have social media
 
Tim
those are extra suspicious
 
anyway I had a call meeting with a therapist this morning and I told her about where my stress comes from finding a function that fits my character
 
what was the joke
 
she said I could consider working part time and have two jobs spred over the 5 or 6 days. I never knew part time programmer exists. Is this a thing?
:52480983: it are photos, so I dk how to explain this well. They are on my insta
 
9:33 AM
shitty day innit
 
@MuratKaragöz it's now set to private so you gotta follow me, sorry
 
Tim
did you fake this whole story to get more followers? :thonk:
 
yeah man, that's a trap if i see one
 
well I can't share these photos now but I could upload them here after work
@Tim do you know anything about part time programming? Is it even possible to be a programmer for 3 days and for example car transporter for the other 2/3 days or are people telling me this bsing me
 
Tim
sure you can do what you want with your time, but people might be less inclined to hire someone for only 3 days instead of 5, and for any job after your first you pay a lot more taxes
 
9:47 AM
damn
 
@MwBakker that's what they want you to believe
 
tax on tax that is slavery tax
 
being taxed for the tax
 
@Tim I feel the same, 3 days might not be enough but the other solution is to combine it and be an engineer that can also develop small software solutions
and I have no idea where to look for a function like that. Can't find it yet
 
Tim
maybe your friend's mom knows
 
10:03 AM
yes I have planned a meeting with her
 
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Hmm. Actually, nothing interesting was said on this day last year.
 
10:57 AM
@MwBakker If only you didn't need a salary, I could maybe provide you with both. I've always wanted to do a "connected X (home, farm etc..)" end to end project, from the software dev to basic electronics with arduino etc.. so 3 days dev and 2 days electronics? :D
 
its too bad Im no good in electronics like arduino but more like fixing computers/mobile phones
mehdi do you know something about part time programming? or perhaps people in your circle doing that
 
I only knew a guy who had a band, rehearsed on weekends and was allowed by management to take the day off when he had concerts or performances
 
ah ok
 
another one who's very fond of carpentry, also does it on weekends though, or takes months sabbatical from the company when he has a longer project (built a tiny house in 4 months or so)
 
yes more like that, working 20 hrs programming and 20hrs something else that kind of direction
 
11:04 AM
this guy didn't split his week, he took more like "sabbaticals", months long breaks from work for a hobby or a long trip etc..
this is something I discovered in Germany, I really like this concept
 
I have returned
 
11:39 AM
@Mehdi that may be too much work me, I rather work 3 / 2 or 3 / 3 ratio days at different types of work
I do not even mind a 6 day workweek since I did that most of my life but I need these variations in work to keep me sane
now it's 5 days programming and 1 day transport and I can't deal with the office time ratio
 
Just work from home
Start an MLM
 
office is not the entire problem I figured, it's being at the same place consistantly
And I know it's a weird and uncommon problem for a developper but I guess I am just different. Accepting this and seeking for solution is all I can do
 
If you run an MLM, you can work from different places all the time
Mostly because you'll have to run from people you've scammed
But, it meets the criteria
 
what is MLM
 
Multi-level marketing (MLM), also called network marketing or pyramid selling, is a controversial marketing strategy for the sale of products or services where the revenue of the MLM company is derived from a non-salaried workforce selling the company's products or services, while the earnings of the participants are derived from a pyramid-shaped or binary compensation commission system. An MLM strategy may be an illegal pyramid scheme.In multi-level marketing, the compensation plan theoretically pays out to participants only from two potential revenue streams. The first is paid out from commissions...
 
11:49 AM
no, no matter how much I will earn that will never make me happy
or make me be able to look at myself in the mirror
 
A lot easier to cry while looking in a mirror in a bathroom bigger than most people's houses tho
 
why should money be the only motive in work is what I don't get
fullfillment is my nr 1 prior
 
You can be fulfilled and rich
They're not mutually exclusive
 
Seeking for both at 27 is barely possible
If I make about 2200 and leave work with achievement I'm happy. It's all I aim for, ofc this is not what I will tell the company: i'll hit higher
but personally ... well
 
2200 BTC is a lot tho
 
11:52 AM
euro not that much in my country
 
Isn't the whole point of the Euro to have a consistent value across countries
 
but as long as I can safe money aside while paying the debts it's good
 
2200 EUR does seem low for devs tho, even fresh grads will generally earn a bit more in SG
 
I now 'cost' appr 1200 a month everything else goes into savings or stonks
 
And SG is fairly bad as far as salaries go
Fresh grads would usually start at about 2800 EUR here if they're not terrible
 
11:54 AM
ok ok but salary aside: I want fullfillment. I need phyisical factors / travel in my workweek
and I feel like that despite I want to do more I am looking for something that is hard to find
 
Try looking for a hill
 
we dont even have those here
 
Probably a difficult task in NL
Precisely
 
am I asking too much you think?
3 / 2 or 3 / 3 ratio in days at the job(s)
 
I honestly don't even know what we're talking about, I'm just saying random things that are mildly sarcastic
 
11:56 AM
I figured
 
But if you find this conversation helpful, feel free to assume I was being helpful
 
always
your next update will be nice
 
But if you're asking for flexible working days, yes, that might be fairly hard unless you're in a senior enough position to swing it
Most companies want all their regular staff on the same schedule
Otherwise it becomes hard for people with different schedules to stay in the loop
So unless you can find a company where everyone is on a schedule like that, they're unlikely to make an exception for you
 
yep
 
Unless you're useful and high up enough as an individual contributor to swing that kind of influence
 
11:58 AM
Part time programming applications do exist, I have encountered 1 or 2
the other option is a company that does both: 2 or 3 days programming and 2 or 3 days 'in the field' whatever that may be
 
Yes, but part timing it at this stage may strongly impact your future options
 
unless my future option is not a 5 day programming week either
 
What is your aim, technically?
 
My goal since I started my IT grade is to someday have my own (one man's) business where I visit smaller business and have contracts with them optimizing / maintaining their IT and provide software solutions that I can write
 
So an MSP?
 
12:05 PM
I dk what MSP stands for
 
Managed Service Provider
 
I guess that would be the term
But I am not ready to start for myself, so I would love to find a company that does this
Either that or split my workweek in part time jobs
 
Well, at least you know what they're called now
So should be easier to find them
 
yes thank you, just need to translate the term
 
1:05 PM
posted on June 23, 2021 by Dan Lew

The following code converts an object to JSON and then back again: val adapter = Moshi.Builder().build().adapter(Foo::class.java) val foo = Foo(bar = null) val json = adapter.toJson(foo) val foo2 = adapter.fromJson(json) check(foo == foo2) I think most of us would expect check() to pass, but

 
1:47 PM
guys
 
grrs
 
as an example an app that also has a website app
and a subscription model using the web app
does google want its share?
like I pay 5$ through the website and get some advantages while using the app
 
The mafia always wants its cut
 
Tim
how would google know
 
The mafia is also Big Brother
 
1:49 PM
idk..
how can I google this?
 
You want to confess to Google that you're avoiding paying their share?
Seems risky
Best Bing it
3
 
xD
well I want to find out how can this be done
 
That said, plenty of services do have that model - paid slack teams, Zoom paid accounts, etc.
Most of them don't offer an inapp payment at all
 
hmm
 
But, they also have a lot more lawyers than you do
So might work differently for them
 
1:53 PM
haha true
 
Word
 
2:16 PM
up
 
@grrigore I think both Apple and Google have a policy that you can't offer the sale of digital goods without using their IAPs, but you can still direct users to your website and then offer it. Seems like a fine line though.
 
that's a good song
 
@twiz thanks
 
2:53 PM
@RaghavSood XD
 
So my current company is kind of gone now. We are working for the sake of working but the tech department is already in the interview process at a new company...
that is crazy
 
you're getting acquired?
 
more like bankruptcy...
 
damn.. sorry to hear...
 
I do not even know if I get my full salary this month
if anything at all
 
2:57 PM
jeeze damn that sucks
you should stop working now then
and immediately spend that energy looking for a job instead of not getting paid for your work
 
well, I already had my interview today
just waiting for my feedback and what ever comes next
 
true true, how'd that happen? did you know this was coming or was it a surprise
 
it wasn't a total surprise. The big surprise is the short notice of "the end"
was announce on Monday that "we do not know the state of the company next week"
 
oh jesus
yeah that's fast
 
@ballBreaker This is indeed where I get it from. It's the codeword.
@WarrenFaith Start inverviewing outside the company ASAP. Hopefully start ASAP.
When your company goes under, not only do you lose your position but the job market get's an influx of all of your former peers. So you need to jump quick.
 
3:10 PM
:D
 
@WarrenFaith ah man, sorry to hear
@WarrenFaith quickly make yourself a curator and take some in house goods with you
 
also kiss the CEO on the lips while you still can
 
Well it is actually so well known, check this out: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51413724
Allegedly, OnePlus has also started doing it.
@MwBakker Yeah it is true. Recently, an investigation started in India against Google where in case of the Smart TVs they are not allowing the makers to use forks of Android. Had that been allowed, the makers could have removed Youtube for example from the TV. But of course, they do not want that. They want our product dependency.
 
3:32 PM
@MwBakker I wasnt in the office for month :D
 
 
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o/
 
5:34 PM
@Graeme On the plus side, the non-compete/NDA you signed would be basically meaningless.
(no idea if this is actually true in any way)
 
5:56 PM
posted on June 23, 2021 by shows

In this episode, Donn talks about the importance of following code conventions and coding styles in codebases. You'll run into various different coding conventions throughout your career. Sometimes it's as an employee, sometimes it's as a freelancer or consultant or just a small side project. The number of coding "styles" that you'll see will blow your mind as you work through your career. The

 
 
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9:05 PM
posted on June 23, 2021 by Android Developers

Posted by Purnima Kochikar, VP of Play Partnerships As we highlighted in March, our mission is to help all developers succeed and build sustainable businesses. Last month at Google I/O, we built on this by announcing updates aimed at ‍helping more users discover your apps and games, opening enrollment for the new 15% service fee tier, and more. But we’re always looking for wa

 
Tim
9:41 PM
innit
 
outnit
 
 
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Tim
11:09 PM
I just saw a guy on twitch who looked an awful lot like a guy that used to chat here
From way back
 
seems like there's a pretty good chance that it was either him or it wasn't him
 

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