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7:37 AM
dead room
nvm the freshest of freshest just joined @MarkO'Sullivan
 
7:57 AM
brotain
 
ayy
gyms are open again
 
8:18 AM
you happy again
 
yeah man
 
Mab
Good morning, I'm new here. I answered a question but the users didn't get his problem solved yet and this is leading to extended comments on the answer. Can I move it here?
 
8:37 AM
You could create a room with him
 
Mab
8:53 AM
I just did that, although the System claim there's already an Android room. I hope the room could easily be deleted when the problem is solved
 
Don't name it android, just call it whatever
2
 
> Anyone who doesn’t do this will be fired.
... XD
 
@Mab Hello Mab, welcome to R15 please fill in our questionaire
 
Tim
veto
 
Mab
OK thanks @MuratKaragöz
 
9:06 AM
Synced starred message data. Took 160930 ms.
 
Mab
@MwBakker it's just a text file. How do I fill my responses?
 
download the file, edit and upload it
 
he's just messing with you, Mab :D
 
Excuse me but this is highly important
from the data coming from this questionaire I have created AI Raghav
 
ok, just waited 2min so you can't edit your message, expect a GDPR complaint shortly, I would like to have my vacations fully paid
 
9:26 AM
what is a GDPR complaint
 
Tim
it's a privacy protection law that you can optionally conform to if you feel like it, but if you don't then it's also ok 👍
 
Mab
Ohhh @Mehdi
 
Tim
9:38 AM
oh oneplus and oppo merged
 
great now Oppo becomes over expensive too
I want a Mi 10 ultra
 
9:55 AM
\o
 
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Hmm. Actually, nothing interesting was said on this day last year.
 
@MuratKaragöz morning 👋
 
🙋‍♂️
 
I dunno why it showed me online at that time lol
 
hello developers, is it worth switching to learning kotlin for android development or should i stay with java..? is there any risk in staying with java for android development in the long run..?
 
10:10 AM
Java is the way
 
Flutter is the elevator
 
I started learning flutter, but it doesn't give the me the sense of freedom i get when developing apps in the native way...
 
10:26 AM
@rozin what nonsense have I just read
If you're doing native Android you should be using Kotlin, there's no point in using Java for Android development because the vast majority of companies will require you to have Kotlin experience
 
^ that's true if you pigeon hold yourself into android dev
 
i think it's safe to say that the safest option is C, it's not going anywhere in the Android world
 
@MuratKaragöz true but you could make that case for most programming languages no? Java = backend, Swift = iOS, PHP = eternity of hell
 
Tim
any java backend can be replaced by kotlin
 
That too
 
10:49 AM
@MarkO'Sullivan please don't put that thing which can not be named on the same line as Java
fun fact: In python the and operator is and
 
Tim
11:07 AM
and or is or
 
o/
sup friends
 
\o
 
o/
 
11:24 AM
6
Q: What is the difference between database storage API and DOM storage API

Richard HuFrom the WebView documentation, it says: setDatabaseEnabled sets whether the database storage API is enabled. setDomStorageEnabled sets whether the DOM storage API is enabled. So I want to ask what is database storage API and what is DOM storage API? What are their differences?

I've offered a bounty for this one
 
Mab
@MwBakker oh Flutter! But I recently read that at this moment, Flutter is only a toy. A toy with more that 8600 issues opened at github
 
xD
 
A toy that forms my app
 
Mab
lol the statement is true right? And moreover I have no IOS devices and don't use Mac, so I don't think I can tell.
 
Tim
11:41 AM
the statement is true, he cannot come back from this embarrassment
> Devices not purchased from T-Mobile will show as an unknown device. That doesn't impact how they function on the network. How old is your SIM? You might want to consider picking up 5G capable SIM's, like the SIM's with R15 on them.
boys we made it onto SIM card, we are famous
 
11:56 AM
Though who wants to be related to T-Mobile anyway?
 
Tim
:homer-disappear:
 
@Mab "I don't have IOS and Mac devices so I can't ground my opinion about multi-platform based Flutter but I still will" - ok
 
is it ok to add an object as json to addFormDataPart?
 
12:13 PM
@Mab Most startups would prefer to use that "toy" instead of building natively
Just use whatever the action calls
Each tool is build to its own purpose so comparing them is in my humble opinion...bad
I would prefer Flutter / React Native over native Android for most kind of apps
 
:O
 
Mab
OK @Taseer understood. @MwBakker I read that I still will as I would still have a go at it (Flutter) am I Right?
 
you will need iOS to build on iOS, afaik you will have the same thing with Kotlin
is Kotlin even for iOS?
 
Tim
yes
 
kotlin is life
 
12:19 PM
I believe that Kotlin is best for Android development, but for the backend, Java is still a good choice
I have moved from Kotlin to Java now that's why I am biased :)
 
nope
kotlin is better
 
Java good. Kotlin bad !!!!1!
 
@grrigore and flutter is the sweet release of death
 
java boomer
kotlin great
 
Ok millennial
 
Mab
12:25 PM
OK , @MwBakker understood. I may also have a look at it (Flutter) although I would still be limited to Android. Although all these frameworks (react native/ flutter/ cordova etc) may not be here tomorrow, native ways will always be here as long as the Platform still exists
 
cordova is shit
 
software development is shit
here I said it
now beat me
 
How dare you to assume that we think differently!
 
@Taseer working 5 days at an office is shit
 
working is shit
 
12:28 PM
No
 
.* is shit!
 
I want to be in the field, as an IT service specialist. No 5 days office, just 2 or such
 
Tim
nice regex
 
Took me years to get it.... and I am still probably wrong :D
 
:D
 
12:29 PM
How about a software engineer job that requires you to travel to multiple countries?
 
Does anybody here know if something like a IT service specialist exist with the ability to also code small program solutions? Specialized for smaller companies. So an IT guy that can optimize your computer machines, but if required also create some software solutions at small scale
Does this exist and what is it called?
 
I believe so
You could check jobs at Canonical because they have an extreme range of jobs available. You could get an idea from it
 
@MwBakker why would you wanna do that, usually they're less well paid than engineering
 
because that is what I want to do. I used to do it as hobby but since I graduated I felt like the need to work on my level
but my level means constant office houres and that will give me depression, I do not have the character for it
 
you'll get people like me spamming you to fix their laptops
 
12:33 PM
I rather seek happiness and less payment than whatever it is I am meant to do as full time programmer
@Mehdi yes, which is fine
 
Oct 8 '19 at 9:52, by Murat Karagöz
dont be weak
 
Tim
working for 45 years will spiral even the best of us into depression
it doesn't matter which way, everything sucks
 
this is way too black and white
 
@Tim agreed, might as well make some money out of it and be mentally stimulated
 
You know you could also look for other kind of jobs beside software development
Maybe in the government sector?
 
12:34 PM
I never said work = super fun time but I do know that keeping me at the same location 5 days a week without any field stuff will not do me well
 
Tim
you can but those jobs also suck
 
@Mehdi this is food for depression, some of the happiest people I have met in my life were not (always) rich but had a job with variety in tasks
 
@MwBakker so if me a developer have a broken laptop, I'll pause my business and work waiting for you to come back to the office on friday?
 
no, ill sketch it
 
12:36 PM
IT support is literally THE job you can't do part-time or remotely
 
An it specialist in the smaller business sector (mkb in Dutch terms) is the 'allround' man who maintains the IT machines in the company. He goes to that business for optimalization or fixing stuff. It's beneath my grade but something I did as a hobby and want to do for work.
 
Tim
my girlfriend's IT guy at the office works remotely, every time there is an issue that can't be fixed over email they have to fix it themselves or wait a few days
 
To be on my level I can expand my service providing small software solutions to this matter
 
tbh, i feel like you're trying to resist something very hard to avoid and from the very beginning, ride the wave and make up your mind later
unless you're coming from the Dutch Royalty, in which case it would be understandable :D
 
@Mehdi ride what wave? 5 days office a week? It will kill me mentally
 
Tim
12:45 PM
join the club
 
I won't
 
ride it for some time and make up your mind educated
@Tim XD
 
@Mehdi I've done enough office time to be very sure
and the only motive holding it back is finance? So what if I'll earn less?
 
i'd also be depressed in an office in a very small city tbh
my point is: don't have hard lined opinions
 
I know what I want and what I don't want, but for the motive of money I went along the wave and now I'm not happy
it's not hard lined, it's how im wired
 
@Mehdi "we bring you warmth" :D
 
Tim
selling contents of deleted message, 1eu
2
 
let me see the product first
 
@Mehdi but do you have any idea if what I seek exists and how it's named? Or anybody you know doing this?
 
@MwBakker "3/4 seasons" brings it during summer and stops it during winter
 
Tim
1:30 PM
@MuratKaragöz I can unveil 33% of the product as a free sample: "public MyListener m1;" let me know if you want to purchase the rest and leave a 5 star review if you liked doing business
 
@MwBakker I think they're called, "system engineer", "IT support engineer", "tech support engineer", "system admin"
 
I'd like to have the 7 day premium trial version please
 
XD
 
@Mehdi but do they exist writing small software solutions included?
 
1:48 PM
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Afternoon Everyone!!!!! :D
 
Tim
@RaymondArteaga murat wants a 7 day premium trial for our service of sellings the contents of deleted messages, do we grant him that?
hang on murat am checking with my CFO
 
check murat's insta too, appearantly that is an important thing
 
are you stalking me
 
Tim
what is the mobile equivalent of utm_source? Say you can open screen C via screen A and screen B and you want track analytics for where you came from
 
2:06 PM
@MuratKaragöz no I was being snitched at work
 
@MwBakker they rarely do, the max they do is small scripts with regards to pieces of infrastructure like LDAPs etc..
 
I see, I can't find people doing this combo either but I know a few exist. I want to know what the response is offering myself like a 'tech support + engineer" where the plus stands for small automated solutions if required
I have my first talk planned
 
Tim
2:23 PM
did you tell your colleagues about your plans
 
not yet
 
Tim
you can pull this funny prank where you just get up on a friday and say bye guys and then don't come back on the monday
 
2:38 PM
I believe there is a month probation in my contract
 
Tim
for this prank you would tell your boss that you are leaving, and tell the boss that you want to tell your colleagues yourself
but then you don't
 
xD
 
or you send the resignation letter to HR hoping they'd think you already talked to your boss, but then don't let anyone else know
then on day J, you don't show up and let your boss call you angrily as she did previously
and you tell her: oh yesterday was my last day, please refrain from spamming me
 
Tim
sorry who are you and why are you harassing me
 
XD
 
Tim
2:47 PM
can I speak to your supervisor please
 
"i'm tired of this kind of telephonic scams, no I won't give you my bankdetails, i'm calling the police on you"
 
as a matter of fact I have a real hard time leaving this place because it feels wrong to my collegues
and I want to make sure my leaving won't ruin any of their vacational plans
 
you're too complicated
 
Tim
would they think of your vacation plans while considering resignating? No
 
doesn't matter, I want to feel good about my actions
 
Tim
2:56 PM
you're not friends, you're never gonna see each other again, just think about yourself and what is best for you
2 hours ago, by Mehdi
Oct 8 '19 at 9:52, by Murat Karagöz
dont be weak
 
best for me is to leave my function as chique as possible
 
no offense mwb, but you're too sentimental at your own expense, this overcomplicates simple processes
 
it surely does, and I know
but that doesn't change how I will feel good/bad leaving this place
 
btw, remind me by whom were you alienated these past few weeks?
 
I can't force myself feeling good while putting some sort of knife in the back of my collegues just thinking about myself
@Mehdi from my manager
 
Tim
3:00 PM
if your colleagues are negatively affected by you leaving, the knife in their backs is put their by company management for not having a plan B in place
also, the 1 month resignation period is there so they can find your replacement before you are gone
if they find someone else, all is well and if they don't then it is not your fault
 
still can't help but feel bad about it, it will slide off but takes time
meanwhile I hope to find what suits my character
 
3:20 PM
as bb's friend would say: I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong
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Mab
3:30 PM
Evening, Mab need help clarifying some confusions may I go ahead with the questions?
 
MwB might be able to help you
 
Mab
When I do new MainActivity(). This new instance is kinda useless even though it's an Activity. Calling getApplication() returns null. And calling getApplicationContext() crashes the App. Now my question, does Android internally create an Instance of my Activity class and only that instance has the LifeCycle methods and it's the Only usable instance or something different is happening
 
MainActivity is the head class of the Activity: it needs one instance as the starting point to be able to navigate from
like a tree with roots, it comes from one central point
any other activity can have LifeCycle methods (if I recall, this is what I used with observers etc)
but there is one LifeCycle instance keeping your activities alive to be able to navigate back and forth from: the mainActivity. I am not sure if I am 100% correct on that one though
Tim charges money for validation on this info..
 
Tim
I didn't read the question but you can't instantiate activities yourself
 
I used to call my classes "x..activity" which extended mainActivity
or I remember this wrong, but it's been a hectic month
 
Tim
3:46 PM
semantically there can only be one main activity
 
Mab
Ohh thanks @Tim @MwBakker. so I can have other instances of my Activity class but I can't instantiated it Myself Right?
 
afaik you extend the mainActivity class but it's been a while doing Android
 
starving and my fav dish is being made, went for fast food but halfway returned home
 
Tim
@Mehdi last night finished plebs s3, so good
 
Mab
OK @MwBakker, I also saw this. And the questions shows how there are multiple instances of same Activity but it's still being instantiated by Android
 
Tim
3:59 PM
just use one activity and all the problems are gone
 
yes, multiple instances of the same Activity is how I would describe it
 
Mab
4:37 PM
Since calling new on Activity is useless, that shouldn't even be possible in the first place. Thanks for the help anyway
 
Tim
It's a language feature
 
Mab
OK but I feel the IDE should help with a lint in this case. It's well anyway
 
considering page 1 of android tutorials show you how to start an activity the right way, I don't think lint is worthwhile here
 
5:02 PM
Hello o/
random q, @DaveS how long have you been working at your current job?
 
At least 1 day
 
Hi raghav, sorry I couldn't update you with the info from new questionaires
I hope youll get through as human as possible till the next ones
 
Hiya Raghav!!! :D
 
5:30 PM
Raghav is correct
8 years @JBis
 
May I ask what you did before then?
 
Worked on this for a year
before that I was in college
 
Ah nice
 
5:56 PM
@Tim nice! i would like to start it in 2 weeks or so, hopefully things would have quieted down a bit by then
 
Tim
nice nice however I recommend watching s1 and 2 first
 
My crush is now watching soccer with some bloke
Meanwhile 0 response to my invitation that I made last saturday, so there is the end of that
It was a nice soap here however
 
hahaha yeah I usually follow the order of the seasons XD
@MwBakker 1 less variable to the equation is more weight and focus on the remaining ones in your plate :)
and sorry to hear :/
 
@Mehdi i just want my car to be finished now
And head for the horizon, with new work along the way ofc
 
Isn't the horizon super flat in the netherlands?
 
Tim
6:09 PM
The horizon is flat everywhere, so yes
 
spoken like someone who's never seen a mountain
 
Tim
Mountains aren't real, just the result of craters on the other side
 
@RaghavSood have you ever done anything with private set intersection (PSI)
 
you mean that mountains are sky craters?
 
Time to go~~
Cya tomorrow everyone!!!! :D
 
6:14 PM
@JBis I don't think we can safely discuss this with minors
 
hehe
 
I love neatly designed services
Makes adding new features safely so much easier
 
im making a call to my db per php script and it returns rows but when I encode it to JSON the page remains blank
 
Sounds like a not-neat design
 
You should be nicer after the update
 
6:23 PM
No.
 5 files changed, 250 insertions(+), 180 deletions(-)
A net 70 lines of code to achieve a perfect feature inclusion
I should write more code
I should also hire more mes
 
6:40 PM
@JBis is this you?
why does SELECT * not return JSON but SELECT with column definition does?
 
lol
I don't post on budget youtube
 
savage XD
 
@MwBakker "Activism is unfairly treated as more important than education. Now sit back and listen to my speech to promote a cause."
 
haha
ironic
he then proceeds to tell the crowd he is going for a christian school
 
Ola Amigos
 
6:52 PM
@JBis remember Tim is RO and not pleased with this comment
 
tbf tim is rarely pleased by a comment
 
especially ones made by me
@MwBakker I generally agree with his position but don't really like his smug rhetoric
 
dutch feels like a fake language with all the doop skoops and deboops
 
Every time I see one of Tim's posts on Facebook I feel a moment of panic when I wonder if I've had a stroke
 
Tim has facebook?
 
6:58 PM
not for you
almost as exclusive as Raghav's
 
I see
 
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