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8:19 AM
@Tim You also facing the issue with min/max height to build or dig?
I surrounded my base with a ditch but I found out that I can only dig a certain depth based on the original height. Like in the beginning of the mountain I can dig to sea level but while the terrain goes higher I am unable to reach the sea level there
not sure if that is a bug or by design but it is annoying
I wanted to level a big terrain and now I reached the ditch level already and can't level it anymore...
 
 
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Tim
10:08 AM
@WarrenFaith yeah because I thought I'd just build a few giant poles and build on that but it didn't work out as I imagined, stuff kept falling
 
10:19 AM
o/
 
\o
@Tim what is your perspective on my matter? You think there is a solution for me?
 
Tim
you should become a streamer
 
10:36 AM
Why
 
Tim
do what you want and make money
 
Streamers also spend most their day at the same place
 
Tim
but you wouldn't
stream the abandoned building stuff
 
I tried that, had 50 viewers at most and the connection went off when I got inside the building
 
Tim
oh
well then you gotta sit in an office from 9 to 5
 
10:38 AM
a terrifying sentence
 
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Mar 2 '20 at 21:07, by ballBreaker
Did you guys know that Hellen Keller would have been immune to flashbangs
 
10:49 AM
None of my business but i have the feeling this fear you have is maybe not totally justified. You could be open minded and give it a try and if you don't like it, well, wait for it.. resign
 
I am the one putting this out in public, no worries about being it your business or not Mehdi
And yeah that is my idea too, but I don't want to 'use' a company like that eventhough it's all in my full right
 
I think frankly that this is tolerated from a junior, there is a certain risk coming with juniors and companies accept it
 
I guess you're right. I wanna try instead of forever speculating
 
that's the right mindset, and who knows, maybe you like the team, the overall mood etc
However... make sure you look for the "right" company that you would enjoy waking up early for
 
Tim
I have been working at a place where the work is not that interesting but the people are amazing, so all in all I enjoy it here
 
11:14 AM
yeah the people are a big particle of enjoying the work somewhere
 
11:45 AM
People? Not a big fan...
 
11:56 AM
Well look at my fluffy collegue for today
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@WarrenFaith "neanderthals" XD
 
 
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1:49 PM
@ChaudharyAmar welcome, please start by reading the rules of the room room-15.github.io
 
I have read and understood the rules
 
thanks
 
I want to send image with other parameters in form-data through retrofit
The same is done through postman but when I sending it through code get null body with 500 Internal Server Error
Any help?
 
Tim
what do you think Internal Server Error means
 
something went wrong with my code surely
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Q: Send Image with Parameters in Form-data through Retrofit Android

Chaudhary AmarI want to send Image with other parameters in form-data. The same is happening successfully through postman but when I am sending through code getting 500 Internal Server Error in response.body()==null. Below are the code for the same. [![My Postman[![Postman][1]][1]an][1[![\]][1]][1]][1] My Retr...

 
Tim
1:55 PM
what do you think 'Server' means
 
r u serious in helping me @Tim
 
@ChaudharyAmar If you are sure your input is correct then it's an issue with the backend (what tim said)
 
Tim
trying to make you realize that Internal Server Error means that there was an internal error on the server, not in the app. I don't know how you don't see this
 
but how come it's working fine on postman...
 
Tim
who cares
 
1:58 PM
Alternatively, the backend may not handle malformed input well and just throw 500 errors. So fix your input and it will work. This is likely the case if it's working on postman. Compare your request with the one made in postman.
 
@JBis Can you review my code...m i sending the data in proper format?
 
@ChaudharyAmar No, I have no idea what the proper format is
 
Tim
i n t e r n a l s e r v e r e r r o r
check on the s e r v e r
 
@Tim if its working in postman than it's likely a client issue but error logs on server might help
 
it could be that your requests (code vs postman) are not entirely identical, and the small difference is what makes your server crash, check the logs of your server
 
Tim
2:02 PM
http 500 is never a client issue, the server is obviously missing some error handling. It should tell the client what's wrong
 
yeah exactly, shitty backend error handling
 
Tim
so, check on the server
instead of trying to force the app into the expected format, whatever that may be
 
ok
thanks
 
2:19 PM
have any of you tried golang?
cc @DaveS
 
2:30 PM
@MwBakker Heh, nice doggo <3
 
Tim
raghav uses go a lot
 
@R15-Zucc lmao
yo guyz
 
Tim
hi
 
sup tim
today i am grateful that microsoft teams has backgrounds you can choose so nobody knows im laying in bed
what are you thankful for today
 
Tim
2:48 PM
nothing, experience some anxiety in the past days
 
aw damn dude, from what?
 
Tim
3:01 PM
everything that has to do with our house that's being built. And everything about that is happening during office hours, coinciding with work, and during the day my focus should be on work
then in the evenings it's usually quiet but there's this thing where I don't want to go to bed because next day will be stressing again
 
yeah that's fair, I kind of love doing that stuff during work because I get paid to deal with my life lol
 
Tim
and because of it all I have this general mental pressure in my mind all throughout the day, I think this is anxiety but not sure
 
@Tim you are building house from scratch?
 
yeah that makes sense man, soundS like overstress
 
Tim
yes basically
 
3:04 PM
sounds pretty cool
 
can you not take like a half hour during work to just set aside your tasks and try to hammer out some of the house stuff? I know your focus "should" be on work.. but nobody works 8 hours every day
 
although its stressful, sounds like you'll have a perfect house after
 
Tim
the house stuff requires attention at arbitrary times, as does my work. I have above average responsibilties and can't just disappear
 
fair enough
does your gf/wife work
 
Tim
yeah that was the plan jb
 
3:06 PM
you should try to split the tasks depending on who's the least busy at the time
 
Tim
yeah we both work full time
 
how does designing it work? do you have an architect propose a couple ideas and you choose or what?
 
or tell your work that you're building a house and need 5-10 minutes here and there to do that, they should be understanding?
I mean it's not like you live in the US and are chained to your desk and whipped every 20 mins for productivity
 
Tim
it's part of a project where they build a few blocks of houses in one go, but it's up to us to decide what the inside of the house should be like, down to every little detail and my god there are a lot of details
 
yeah so many details
but overall yeah, I get that stress. Sounds like it's not easy to manage since it pops up out of nowhere
 
Tim
3:09 PM
for instance we have to decide on what kind of doors we want in each door 'slot' in the house, there is a variety of doors to choose from but we cannot go to the showroom to see the doors cause of covid. So we have to pick from images
 
I wonder if you could ask the builders for a plan or something of the things they'll need from you... to try to make it less arbitrary timing
like get a weekly list or something
 
@ballBreaker its pronounced "a leather work incentive"
 
haha nice
it's called "50 states of grey"
 
Tim
it's really up to us now, the blueprints etc are finalized already, we did that a few months ago. But now it's time to design the inside. Picking floors, walls, bathroom interior etc
 
Sounds like a headache
 
3:11 PM
brb shower and breakfast
also idk if you guys remember the engineering application I was doing a few months ago, but I found out last night that I'm officially an engineer now
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Tim
originally the plan was to let the contractor that builds the house also do the bathroom because it is included in the options, but the configurator they gave us recently turned out to be so limited in options that we are about to decide to leave it out and 'do it ourselves'. But it will cost more and take longer and require more planning and deciding
 
@ballBreaker \o/
@Tim i guess its a trade off, the more you do the more customization you get but the more time and effort it takes
 
Tim
3:27 PM
yeah
it's not my type of thing
 
o/ morning
 
@ballBreaker congratulations! what changes for you from now?
 
Tim
3:48 PM
adam another stream tomorrow?
 
@Mehdi not a whole lot, I earned a titled of P. Eng. at the end of my name
I can sign off on things that might kill people
uhhh
my insurance discount got a little juicier
otherwise not much.. I'm not in engineering anymore xD
I'm the first of all my friends to become an engineer and im not even an engineer anymore and they are
 
you're not in engineering anymore? meaning?
 
4:08 PM
I'm not in engineering anymore
xD
To be 'in engineering' you have to work for an accredited engineering company, whether that's one you open yourself, or one you work for
and to become an accredited engineering company you need a certain % of employees with their P. Eng.
currently my company had 0 engineers and now has 1 (and is a finance company)
in an engineering company I would have seen a nice 20-30% raise from getting this
but as it stands, my current company dgaf
 
Damn... XD
So time to switch jobs?
 
haha nah i fuckin hated engineering
biggest wage slave of all time
"I think my friends are absolute idiots for staying in engineeirng lolol" - an engineer as of yesterday
but yeah, screw those companies
engineers have a lot of exceptions to labour laws and a lot of companies take advantage of that
 
4:26 PM
maybe you should focus on important things like revealing the entire world map in valheim instead of stupid things like your career
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4:37 PM
yeah true
I still don't understand why I was being chirped for my valhiem map lol
literally like 20 hours of exploring AT LEAST lmao y'all need to chill
what am I gunna go see 25 different swamp and mountain areas? smh
 
yes
 
lol
laame
 
you can load my world seed, use cheats to find the merchant then give me the general direction
 
lol
just gotta explore the map more bro
 
aint nobody got time for that
 
Tim
4:45 PM
how do you find chitin or serpents if you don't explore
 
who needs serpents
I've got turnips to farm
you expect me to just hop in a boat and ignore my farm?
 
Hello, Android!
 
Tim
well yeah
 
o/ CA
 
what game are we talking about today?
 
4:49 PM
valheim
 
haven't heard of it...what platform?
 
PC
 
I'll have to check it out...getting internet at my new apartment tomorrow
and hopefully a desk by the end of the week or so
 
$20 to buy it now in Early Access, only 1 GB
 
is it on steam?
 
4:51 PM
yeah
 
I have a 500 GB SSD I need to fill up
 
not the game for you then :D
 
why not?
cuz it's small
I mean 1GB at a time and I'll have 500 games
 
yeah won't fill up your SSD fast enough
 
I'm fine with that
 
4:52 PM
lol well get it, we have a dedicated channel for it in discord
 
@Tim damn that sucks
 
dave!
do you know go?
 
@Tim i get mad anxiety reading you are building a house while I am refilling soap bottles with water
@Tim is the house in hilversum too?
 
Tim
no it's below the river
 
I have read and understood the rules
 
5:05 PM
@Tim ALAAF, HET REGENT METERS BIER TIS POMPEN OF VERZUIPEN IS DE ENIGE MANIER
 
Tim
not english lmao reported
 
OM DE JUISTE KOERS TE VAREN MET DE WIND IN ONZE RUG, GENIET MET VOLLE TEUGEN DEZE TIJD KOMT NOOIT TERUG LALAAA LALALALA
These texts will be Tim's usual dialogs the moment he lives there
 
Tim
they already are since I lived there for the first 26 years of my life
 
I thought you lived region hilversum
 
Tim
In north brabant, born and raised
on the playground spending most of my days
 
5:07 PM
Tim is a brabo, I never would have guessed
Mystimrious
 
@Tim Yep!
 
Tim
@MwBakker got a foreign girlfriend, too, from limburg
there were some issues with her passport when she moved here with me
 
Understandable
Where you live... Are there hills?
 
Tim
pretty sure this is below sea level
dunes are hills I guess?
 
5:15 PM
@JBis I've dabbled in it, wrote a few things on a server for the grills. Not an expert by any means
 
How'd you like it? Compared to Cpp.
 
It's nice, it's great for what it does, networking / server stuff
 
cool cool
I'm starting to learn. This is attempt #4 at learning a new language.
 
@Ahmad and @Mauker new music
 
@RaghavSood, @DaveS, @Mauker, @Pochmurnik, @CptEric, @Graeme, @ballBreaker, @Jordy, @WarrenFaith, @grrigore, @Reno, @CrabsStew, @bluetoothfx Ratchet & Clank Free on the PlayStation Store!!!! :3
 
5:21 PM
Have you finished learning any languages?
@W0MP3R!!!!!
 
CAAAAAAARL!!!!!! :D
 
How are you? :D
 
good good
 
Feel like it's been forever
 
yeaaah
 
5:22 PM
You don't chat in the room as much anymore, do you?
 
i don't come in like before xD
 
it's because DaveS doesn't shower, isn't it?
 
hahahha
 
What have you been working on lately?
 
@Tim No
I thought brabant had actual hills
Like in the area of Nijmegen
 
5:24 PM
just playing games, reading some books, looking for a job
I've been very non productive xD
 
oh you lost your job?
 
nooo
i decided to leave
 
well... that's probably better
 
yeah...
 
I took a new job in October that was terrible. Left it within 5 weeks
 
5:26 PM
D:!!
 
I've never left a job that quickly in my life
 
x'D
 
probably should have left it even sooner, but it's ok
I'm at a startup now and pretty happy/excited
 
yay~~
 
@CarlAnderson I am also going for a startup-ish kind of company
 
5:28 PM
Cool MwB
@W0MP3R what games have you been playing?
@MwBakker what's the startup do?
 
I managed to finish Pillars of Eternity 1 and i'm about... 50% of Pillars 2
i finished Nexomon Extinction and all the story that Baldur's gate 3 has right now
 
I want to play BG3 but I need a new computer first
Have you tried Valheim?
 
and then I bought Conan Exiles and my time has gone there hahahah
not yet!
it's just... it feels like a game where you have to put a lot of time and I have a lot of games like that one and not that much time x'D
 
lol
yes, it kinda is
 
@CarlAnderson A company that focusses on everything medically related to feet has decided to have their own IT business so now most of their programming is intern now
 
5:34 PM
i mean... i have Cyberpunk & Assassin's Creed Valhalla and i've played almost nothing
so adding another game that is long-ish
I don't want it to be in the library looking at me and saying play meee~~ while i'm ignoring it 'cause i'm in another game hahah
 
just quit your job so you have more time to game
 
but... I don't have a job x'D
 
lol
 
x3
 
lol
@DaveS have you built many bridges?
 
5:42 PM
not unless you consider flattening/raising ground to make a path
 
I built a few bridges
 
We started a new world last night and found a good spot at the intersection of water, meadows, and Black forest
but the black forest is across a river
and the other black forest is across the bay
 
hahah you decided to abandon ship eh
literally
 
literally
 
5:43 PM
we kept our characters
so we actually still have our Eikthyr power
 
If I were to build a bridge I'd use 4m poles from core wood where it's deep and put a roof over it so the rain doesn't break it down
 
but went to the new world without any items at all
ok
 
lay one pole first then build the path, lay new poles under the path so it's the same height
 
yeah
the bridge to the close forest will be fairly easy and small to medium
but I'm wondering if building a bridge across the bay makes sense
and how much effort it would be
I'm torn between making it a casual "oh I'm just here to build stuff" versus a "I'm here to beat everything"
 
nah
 
5:46 PM
if I was happy with anything I'd built in the previous world I think i would have stayed with it
 
I think it's only rain bb
if you put a roof over it, it stays fresh
 
I edited my above and cant remember
what it said
but nah
it's also if it's in a lake/river
you have to build stone floors to avoid that, but it also doesnt really matter, water damage won't go past like 50% hp from what I noticed
 
yeah it doesn't go past 50%
just looks ugly
 
you guys all play vallheim?
 
im done, but I did
 
5:51 PM
oh good to hear I can kick you from discord then
@CarlAnderson just play however you feel on the day you play
 
@ballBreaker i thought its like minecraft
can't you just play forever
 
you can yeah but you eventually run out of new resources to collect and new things to build
you end up just building just to build
which can be fun
 
go for it dave
 
@DaveS hahah
 
we only accept vikings who accept the challenge of valheim in discord
do you dare refuse odin?
 
5:53 PM
D:
 
odin can lose his other eye
@JBis nah it's more story/progress driven than minecraft, at least from what I remmeber about minecraft.. could be more now
when it came out there weren't any bosses and such though
 
ah
 
this is more of an RPG and minecraft is more of a sandbox
 
Tim
@CarlAnderson are you doing the oblivion npc thing? XD
 
uhh no?
 
6:07 PM
carl used to be an adventurer like you, tim
until he took an arrow to the knee
 
Tim
when you asked about learning languages, and building bridges, reminded me of this
 
oblivion guard dialogue was hilarious
"how goes it citizen?" is burned into my head forever
I miss that game a bit
 
Tim
I 100%'d it on xbox 360
but remember almost nothing
 
@Tim wtf is this I can't even
 
6:23 PM
hahaha nice
yeah I forget a lot about that game as well
also 100%'d it
did you ever find the duplication bug ?
it was pretty hilarious
I duplicated so many items that I crashed my entire game file on multiple occasions haha
 
Tim
I only ever duped items in the old pokemon games
 
oh yeah the classic missingo glitch?
same
 
Tim
was it really a glitch
 
I duped in oblivion because it was genuinely funny as hell
the process is that you'd load up a ton of arrows and draw your bow back, and then right before the arrow hits, you drop an item, the arrow hits the item and duplicates it for th enumber of arrows you had equipped. so you could dupe out like a thousand gems at the same time
and it almost always froze the xbox 360 in it's tracks
good times
 
 
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Tim
8:31 PM
I triggered some kind of recursive zip and managed for the build server to run out of space :/
 
8:49 PM
@CarlAnderson Ohhh that one is amazing <3
 
yeah..
@Tim what
 
Tim
I don't know man
I deleted the 140GB zip file with rm but the space is not freed up. Looking with lsof I can still see a 140GB listing but the listing does not exist at its location
 
weird
for all I know windows never actually deletes anything, it just allocates space "you can write over this now"
I guess something went wrong there
 
@Mauker :D
 
Tim
9:06 PM
no it's a mac os server
 
"it's a mac" ah well then the problem is a bit bigger
you might need a new device and OS
 
have you thought about an expensive docking station?
 
9:30 PM
if I have a List<Foo> called foos and each Foo has a List<Bar> called bars, and then I have a bar and I want to find the one foo instance that has that one bar, how do i do that efficiently in Kotlin?
 
Why does a Foo object have a List<Bar> nested don't you want to keep a flat databsse structure?
 
it's a JSON response
 
9:47 PM
from Firebase or an api you have control of?
 
10:23 PM
I don't understand why that matters
I'm making an API call, it returns a structured JSON list of Foos, each Foo has a list of Bars. I have a Bar already, I need to know which Foo has my Bar.
 
Is this a M2M relationship?
 
@CarlAnderson if it was a database structure you had control of I would recommend not have nested array's in your objects
 
I could write a nested for loop if this was Java, but Kotlin has Find. If it was just a single bar that each Foo had, I could write the Kotlin to find it, but I've never done a nested find before and I don't know how to structure the syntax.
 
thus you would not deal with searching lists in lists but get an entire different approach to the matter and get a flat structure from the call to the database/api
 
That's nice MwB but it doesn't solve the immediate issue that I have.
 
10:28 PM
Let's say you have Bar bar and Foo foo. If foo is in bar.foo_list is bar also in foo.bar_list?
 
Bar doesn't know anything about Foo, C-A
 
@CarlAnderson you asked why it mattered, and I just gave an answer to that. For the immediate matter I can only think of nested for loops
 
oh...I misread an earlier comment. I thought each Bar had a List<Foo>.
 
Let's make it more concrete. I have a list of Bookshelves. Each Bookshelf has a list of books. I want to find where to put back Tom Sawyer, which has a Dewey Decimal number of 123.4A
 
I think one way or another you will need to do a linear search in your List<Foo>.
 
10:30 PM
So i want to search each bookshelf's location list until I find 123.4a
 
@CarlAnderson i think you're looking at an O(nm) complexity there. For efficiency i would change the data structure to Map<Bar, Foo>
 
Or add a Foo foo reference to the Bar class.
 
@Mehdi if I only have 8 bookshelves and each shelf only has 8 locations, I'm searching at most 64 locations. I think the average android device can handle that.
 
Depending on how often your are doing this search, some preprocessing can be helpful.
yah, and how big the search space is
 
I'm just trying to learn Kotlin here, folks, not big-O runtime complexity or back-end data scaling
and I'm getting kinda grumpy with everyone telling me I'm solving the wrong problem
 
10:33 PM
been there, done that. But it's for good intentions don't forget that
 
@CarlAnderson oh yes definitely, thought the question was about performances and efficiency :D
 
bookshelves.find { bookshelf -> bookshelf.find(book.location == bookshelf.locations.id) }
or do I want a forEach at the start?
@AdamMc331 you still around?
 
10:57 PM
grumpy Carl
now someone solve my python problems ;-)
 
going to be learning python next but I'm not there yet
 
11:31 PM
I'm sure you'll catch on pretty quickly
best part is no semicolons
well...in the top 5 anyway
 
I also like that indentation matters and there are no curly braces
 
11:59 PM
@CarlAnderson Hey sorry busy day. I am here now if you are.
 

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