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18:15
lunch time! and taking a break from the new project
is it common for new projects to be poorly specified?
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My new laptop is here!!!!!!!
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oh so close
How the fuck you afford a new laptop you fake poor guy
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I don't
My parents helped me with that
it's been 1 year and 1 month I hadn't had a computer of my own
damn. how do you even get off at all?
18:26
And I got a second job recently, I was going to need a computer for that
Since it's mostly remote
lol felix
bluetoothfx hacked me..
Haha no I'm joking
What a great guy, the issue is solved btw
@TimCastelijns lol
@Mauker for savings purposes or to get your head out of the water?
I need it cause I need to code while at home
18:31
I meant the second job lol
ah lol
head out of the water, and later on for saving purposes
@Mauker \o/ What is it?
Acer Predator Helios 300, 15 inch
@Mauker That's nice, man. Glad to hear that :)
very nice!
18:33
Let me show you
woot!
did you turn it on yet?
Yes
Booted up and running
I'm just waiting for the cloning tool to download
I want to put a SSD on it
Quick hide your jobs guys! mauker's got a new monster laptop! :D
looks very clean Mauker!
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how can i change recycler spanCount on screen orientaion change?
how much RAM do you have?
18:37
^?
16GB
DDR4
my main travel laptop is still 12gb
... how do you upload images so fast? do you have a master stack chat app?
I limp along on that
I do have a chat app :D
18:38
@Mauker How big is the SSD? And how big is the one already in the laptop?
@Code-Apprentice this NVME one is 240GB, and the laptop has a 2TB HDD on it
@William what do you mean by travel laptop?
so it didn't come with an SSD?
A laptop he uses to travel
18:38
@MehdiB. one I bring to school I have a 17 in one
He gets on top ot it, and it flies
but to big for bag
@Mauker is the /? key really where control should be?
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i have trie this but work only on refresh
18:39
@William love those! wish Apple made a 17" MBP... :/
The control is on the left side
This is the ABNT keyboard pattern, a brazillian one
a brazzlian that makes sense
@MehdiB. They used to
I type on japanese one
yeah but they stopped a long time ago
18:40
and they might come back to it, since they're making things that light
I doubt it was a niche market of a niche market
@Mauker why did you get a brazilian keyboard layout
^ yeah, I'm not so sure, 17" isn't one the average person would purchase
and not ansi
or ISO
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hey guyz i need you help in the above screen shot plea
I'm pretty sure ISO only has one additional key but are basically the same
18:41
@MehdiB. Neither is the mac pro so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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o/
@Mauker is brazilian most common and cheapest there
@William This laptop was assembled in brazil, it's made here to make it cheaper, and avoid the 60% import tax
the 13" is what sells the most, no clue why... 15" is the min I can tolerate working on
60% that is insane
18:42
It is.
I hate it
and you live in brazil? Yes 99% sure because of page
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@mauk
@Mauker insane taxes
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@Mauker can i have ur attention please
@ColdFire That's just one of them, mind you.
18:43
can you buy thinkpad's?
We still have to pay some smaller ones if the packaged ended up being taxed
their keyboard layout's tend to be the best
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i want to change the recycler spancount on orienation change
@eLi Yeah, ask away
damn lets hope they lessen the taxes
we also have some insane import duties on some items
18:44
@eLi And what problems are you having?
mainly to protect local production
United States is about to get pretty bad also
with Trump
@ColdFire Exactly
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i have tried as shown in the screenshot above but it works on refresh not automatricall
that is one of the reasons there are import duties afterall
18:45
@CarlAnderson Nope -
@William Brazil just got one as well :/
I get my app's Logcat, just like I was running it normally
Oh, so, I get logcat
@MehdiB. I'm not following got one of what?
18:45
But I can't get logs from test code into logcat
@William trump
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@Mauker i want to change recycler spancount on screen orientation change
in fragment
@eLi is the logcat showing those messages?
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i have tried as shown above
Are you doing something special to log or... are you doing like, Log.e() ?
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18:47
@Mauker only on refresh
Weird
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change the orientation then refresh
Also
Since you're changing orientation, why don't you check for the new orientation inside some other lifecycle method?
@Mauker that is a rip off abnt layout
they just replaced the cttrl key
@William Consider that it's a laptop keyboard
some other changes may apply
18:49
I don't follow what do you mean
my JIS keyboard actually looks like the one in the picture
I mean that they have a smaller space to work with, so they're free to change a few of the keys
The mechanical keyboard I have is also ABNT
@Graeme playing around with it now.
but it's not on a laptop, so check it out
@Mauker which does it look like
the picture I sent or your laptop or something else entirely
18:51
picture crazy small
Click on it lol
oh
damn
That's a bug on the app
i did click on it
maukery nice laptop and congrats
@Graeme we don't log to that Run console, only to logcat - even in the tests themselves.
it appears the whole replace ctrl keyboard thing is quite popular
I use a thinkpad and even they did that
its basically ISO at that point
I love JIS keyboard layout the most
its probably cheaper to manufacturer
18:54
@ColdFire Thanks!
3 main layouts ISO, ANSI & JIS
@William Bear in mind that they have to fit lots of keys inside a smaller body, compating to a standalone keyboard
dang it's got the "dot" mouse
@Mauker look at JIS
that thing was so hard to use
18:54
it fits 5 additional keys
nothing compared to yours
JIS is what I use because it has the most keys
I love having additional keys
abnt only had three additional keys
but it practicality they just make it 2 and stick the 3rd key where ctrl is like ISO
@William The standard /pattern define mostly where the A-Z keys are, but manufacturers actually have some freedom to place special keys
@Mauker defeats the point of a standard then
but okay
It doesn't
Also, this ABNT picture is incomplete
it doesn't have the ç key, for example
and that's one of the main reasons brazillians like that standard
where is that key left of what letter/number on the keyboard
we use a lot of Ç
18:58
no its there
This is a different picture lol
@William I was talking about this one
okay give me the real picture becasue there are really only three main keyboard layouts to my knowledge for cost reasons
Wait dude
yeah its in the same place as your laptop
I remember when keyboards didn't have the Windows key. I miss those times.
19:00
seriously that is crazy
@CarlAnderson Like when people used typewriters?
I don't remember that at all
no, that was earlier
I mean dad learned to type on a typewriter
The Windows logo key (also known as Windows key, Winkey, start key, logo key, flag key, super key, command key or flag) is a keyboard key which was originally introduced on the Microsoft Natural keyboard in 1994. This key became a standard key on PC keyboards. Tapping this key invokes the operating system's start menu, if it has one. In Windows, Ctrl+Esc performs the same function, in case the keyboard lacks this key. Historically, the addition of two Windows keys and a menu key marked the change from the 101/102-key to 104/105-key layout for PC keyboards: compared to the former layout, a Windows...
19:01
the ç and the ~ key are defined by the standard AFAIK
I mean, I'm no expert, I just use the thing
I was looking at 2nd hand desktops earlier mauker, what do you think about that
Could be a good way to save money
some of my old desktop components were 2nd hand
Wanna share configs so we can discuss about it?
19:03
@Mauker see ç is in the same place as my picture which means you are typing on ISO standard technically
well an your laptop anyways
on the desktop keyboard its ABNT for sure
@William Yeah, it's very similar
Both of them are ABNT, that's my point
all standards have their variations
@Mauker it is not ABNT is my point it is ISO with different key caps a different scan code
for the laptop
ABNT is based on ISO
its basically the same
in that case ISO & ABNT are based on ANSI
I mean sure they are all based on each other some
And that's one of the reasons I had no problem while using the macbook pro keyboard, it's basically the same
but once I had to use a spanish keyboard
Dude...
19:05
macbook pro's must be crazy expensive there
spanish is ISO
Yes, they are
but I bought mine back in 2011
when they weren't as expensive
I own a 2011 macbook pro
I like it for the most part
but never use it
today's MBP cost as much as 4... almost 5 of 2011 MBP
@Mauker me?
You
19:07
there are no configs
@William It was my main work computer, until I got robbed
Oh, it's just the idea
I had maxed it out
16GB of ram, SSD + HD
I hate that american qwerty took over the world
new battery
19:07
basically no buddy doesn't use qwerty
Well, we do lol
I was looking at desktop only, any i5, any graphics card no older than 5 years and rest idc, but it is above budget lol
oh, wow
how much do you have to spend on it?
I saw a couple 200-250eu and I thought yeah I could afford that maybe. But those were without graphics card xD
you can also buy the parts and assemble it later
That's what I did with my desktop in 2011
I didn't have all the money to buy it all at once
So I bought the parts one by one
19:10
I can't do that, prefer to buy it complete
until I had what I wanted
buy one by one
can't you just buy a laptop off of ebay and get it shipped to brazil?
laptops cost more than desktops
Yes I can
19:11
that is what i do in the US
And then I would have to pay 60% of it's value in taxes
hmm
that sucks
Oh, those taxes also apply on the shipping costs
It's simply insane
I bought my japanese keyboard from japan no taxes really
If I buy a $1000 laptop with a 50 USD shipping, I would have to pay 60% of 1050 USD
19:12
laptop ebay for like $200usd
keyborad $35 usd
bam good travel computer
I have a desktop also but that my laptop doesn't need to be tricked out really
It would be cheaper to fly to another country and back almost
mauker fly to US buy one and come back
That's actually not a bad idea, you know
depending on what you want to buy, it's actually cheaper to travel to the US, spend the weekend, buy the thing, and come back with it
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Good night
19:15
@Mauker that is what we do
Good night!
@Mauker what if it comes unboxed?
@MehdiB. It might not get taxed
19:16
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but it's a BIG might
@Mauker just bribe the officials :D
@MarkAmery welcome. Please start by reading the rules and confirm you have read them before saying anything else.
And if it does get taxed, and it's proven that you tried to do that just to avoid the taxes, you'll be sued
and will have to pay a fine
by the end of the day, you'll have paid 200% of the value
(I don't remember the actual value, but it's damn expensive)
19:17
I have read and understood the rules
Welcome!
Yet another mark on our room
You're welcome Tim
we can sell the other mark, buy me a pc
19:19
@Mauker what has zero import tax there?
I'll ship you a box labeled that when its really a computer
bam profit!
@William Books
They have X rays over there lol
Anyone have any tips explaining the different parts of a RecyclerView adapter (or any List adapter) for a beginner talk? Specifically onCreateViewHolder. I know what it does, but it's always difficult for me to explain it in a beginner talk without saying "This is a something that you'll probably just copy and paste for a while whenever you're making a new list"
I won't stay long. :) Wanted to flag something up that y'all can evaluate better than I can. This user - stackoverflow.com/users/8034839/shizhen - has, over the last few days, posted loads of comments promoting one particular answer of theirs (stackoverflow.com/a/51151050/8034839). You can see all 10 of their self-promoting comments by CTRL-Fing for 51151050 in their last 3 pages of comments. I'm not sure whether to regard that behaviour as abusive and worthy of a mod flag.
and they take their sweet time to process all the packages
In particular, I can't evaluate whether the link is relevant, since I'm not an Android guy
19:21
Like I can say you're inflating the layout and returning a new ViewHolder. But that's gonna go over their head.
@AdamMc331 you probably might have a good answer actually :/
<3
@TristanWiley Go visual
Draw the concepts
I figured some of y'all might be better-equipped than me to take a look and judge whether the mods need summoning down upon him, or whether he's actually doing something useful. (I just incidentally stumbled upon him while looking in SEDE for users repeatedly posting identical comments.)
I don't have that long and want to leave time for questions and individual helping. I can draw some out, but I don't want to go too in depth.
What would you suggest drawing out?
@TristanWiley The classic list drawing
Let me find it
Like this one
Hm, that explains RecyclerViews pretty well. I'm trying to explain the concept of "binding" the view I guess?
Like, if I just type out LayoutInflater.inflate... they'll just get lost.
19:25
The bind part can be explained with the bottom right part of the image
you have a viewholder, and data you want to load, this data will be shown on the screen shortly after that
@Mauker damn, i say this because here, unboxed == not new, if the quantity is 1 they ignore it and don't put it under the umbrella of products destined to commerce or business
@MehdiB. I mean, it can work, and sometimes it really does
but it's risky
I know someone who got caught trying to do that
And oh boy, he had to pay a lot.
@marka not sure that would be considered abusive, looks like the posts he comments on are relevant. At least he is not copy pasting his answer everywhere right
@MehdiB. same
that is how we get our goods here
I could type it out and say something along the lines of "First we need to inflate the layout, this is sort of like loading our layout. Then we pass it along to our ViewHolder (which we've already made) and there we put in all our data in it. Then we display it on our screens!

That's simple while still being correct... right?
19:27
You can still polish that
but it's the way to go
Yeah, I'll polish it up and say something along those lines
Good work, Tristan
I miss Android development <3
I miss you around here <3
19:29
Except for the cat part
jk
@Mauker xD
lol the cat is judging me
fb send me a notification that tristan and i are friends on fb for 2 years now
wow been 2 years
We're old, CF
19:39
that is cM
19:49
Mauker couldn't buy used in brazil?
or are computers prices in general crazy high becasue of important costs?
I think we talked about this actually and computers there are in general just really expensive
20:14
\\O
love the size of the keyborad lol
I should unsubscribe from /r/battlestations
not to mention the blue and red alt and ctrl keys
20:19
@Mauker So I hear you have your own Brazilian Donald Trump now
The desk would have been better if it was wider
Michel Temer is brazilian donald trump?
No, Bolsanaro
Jair Bolsonaro raising the tarrifs?
@Code-Apprentice Yeah... sad, but true
20:28
@William dunno about that. I just hear that much of his rhetoric during the campaign was hugely populist and reminiscent of Trump
@Code-Apprentice i think i will call trump a saint when compared to this guy
Is this the politics channel?
I would expect a funnier answer -_-
20:45
haha
21:12
o/
@ColdFire sadly that's my understanding, too
haha yup
 
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