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7:00 PM
I'm not a Room Owner (but a regular) and I think the point is not to flag messages just because they upset you, they need to be real candidates for a flag, like violating the overall SO chat rules
 
@Undo It basically just means don't flag stuff needlessly. "Fuck FrameLayout" isn't (imo) flaggable just because it has fuck. Actually offensive stuff/breaking SO rules should be flagged
 
So some folks are interpreting it as "don't flag stuff", which probably isn't what you want.
 
Ah nope, of course not
 
When what you want to say is something like this:
> don't flag messages based on the mere presence of certain words (swearing, blasphemy, etc) which are often seen in casual language
 
7:05 PM
Yeah, I can see the confusion. I'll talk to the other ROs and we'll rephrase it
 
Anyway, wanted to let you know about that. I'm not recommending that wording specifically, just raising the issue. Thanks :)
 
Sure, appreciate your bring it up with us. We'll make sure it's worded more clearly
 
Now to write a fake news article and spin the headline "Dangerous AI, chastised by Community Moderator for encouraging anarchist views"
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lol
 
@DaveS You think you're doing some damage? Two plus two is ten... IN BASE FOUR! I'M FINE!
 
7:15 PM
don't hate on framelayout..it's one of the most reasonable viewgroups we have
 
I love FrameLayout, actually. It's so nice and straightforward
 
I don't know eski, FrameLayout views everything in absolute terms, it doesn't really relate its views very well
 
that's why it's so good..just stack your children on top of each other..last one wins
 
it lays view on top of each other
 
@eski as the oldest child this offends me
 
7:18 PM
yeah framelayout is good
 
flagged
 
flags the flagged
 
I shall talk today only in glados quotes
 
quotes?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~()o)
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!
 
the cake is a lie Raghav
 
7:22 PM
@DaveS Unbelievable. You, [subject name here], must be the pride of [subject hometown here]!
 
Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test.
 
@RaghavSood Well done, android. The Enrichment Center once again reminds you that Android Hell is a real place where you will be sent at the first sign of defiance.
 
@Mauker Thank you for helping us help you help us all.
 
@RaghavSood You're doing quite well.
 
anybody have suggestions on where zucc can live?
 
7:28 PM
In the cloud
 
@TimCastelijns Please escort your Companion Cube to the Aperture Science Emergency Intelligence Incinerator.
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I looked at google appengine but I have no clue how to have a persistent socket connection on there
 
@RaghavSood Once again, excellent work.
 
ec2 micro instance AWS free tier. When it's up, make a new account
 
7:29 PM
do you have to manage all the shit yourself on ec2?
 
it's just a low powered remote instance, linux or windows
 
remote desktop/ssh in, run bot like normal
 
I don't want to spend a week messing with configuration
 
you don't
they have pre configured machine images
pick one, install bot, run bot.
you could get a windows machine and rdp in, in < 1 hr
15 mins if you've done it before
 
7:31 PM
I got lost in aws documentation twice before
quite hesitant to give it another go
 
their docs are expansive and confusing, however setting up ec2 is easy
 
(no transcript available)
 
@RaghavSood Make no attempt to solve it.
 
@DaveS thanks, that is 5000x better than their own docs
 
np
 
7:35 PM
It's not too late to turn back.
 
we all took classes on AWS and use it in production so pretty well versed. feel free to ask any questions. May have an answer
 
Someone is going to get badly hurt.
 
Dave have you tried GCP?
 
Bah, I'm gonna stop
I though GLaDoS spoke more
Most of the quotes involve just killing people
That's phase 4, we're still in phase 1
I've done GCP a bit, trevor
And AWS a fair bit
 
GCP looks like a nicer experience from someone who has never used either
 
7:38 PM
Yeah, GCP is a lot easier to use
AWS has five ways to do one thing
 
Im actually going to meet with a technical rep with GCP later this week
 
GCP usually has just one way to do things, but it's very configurable
And configuration is a lot simpler than AWS
 
AWS is definitely not simple. But I need to find out if GCP can still let me set up a hands off auto scaling serverless environment with minimal maintenance needed
 
Yup
You can do more or less everything you can in AWS
It's usually a lot simpler to do
And pricing works out better
 
the console UI doesn't look like crap either
 
7:40 PM
GCP is just overall far simpler to use
 
apparently, I had an S3 bucket that was still charging me $.50 a month
 
We're migrating a lot of stuff to it from AWS
Mainly for managed k8s
 
took me way longer than it should have to find and remove the bucket
 
Yeah will be curious to see how GCP can replace AWS things. We might do new projects in GCP, we'll see
Just need to see ease of use justify learning curve investment
 
Most of us picked up the basics in a day or so, but we were all already familiar with AWS so had a handle on cloud stuff already
 
7:42 PM
Really sucks doing a big build and using an entirely new stack the next time. Feels like you never make any progress
 
Not that much of an issue for us since we're fairly simple service-wise
Just a primary monolith and a few others ancillary services
And an unnecessary amount of nodes
That's where I fit in
 
We're more like, "Build me 4 apps, and a web app, with a million user capacity backend for half a million"
 
Our backend and frontend are tightly integrated
I handle blockchain and nodes, which is largely golang, so just single binaries
Our entire deployment is <50 servers
 
our latest build will have 0 servers
just cloud functions and NoSQL DB
 
We can never hit that, nodes need servers
 
7:45 PM
nice, have you tried Firebase?
supposedly the cloud functions work well
 
We use it for our push notification implementations but not much else
I think we're going to write a traditional express server in Node.js but deploy it on a cloud function
so you get the benefits of serverless but you can pack it up and move to any platform
 
I wish I could write serverless in go on gcp
Ironically, you can do it on aws
But not on GCP
 
lol
 
Even though go is a google language
@TimCastelijns Essentially, you should be able to just compile the bot, ssh in, install whatever runtime you need, and set up something like supervisor or systemd to keep the process alive
Even a nano instance should suffice
 
CircleCi is down and rip me
 
7:53 PM
I used to keep a twitter bot alive like that before
 
Alternatively
If you want to have more fun in life
Buy a raspberry Pi and do all of that on your desk
Pis are great for learning the basics of ssh and server management
 
@Dave in turn I might be able to help with GCP, I have used it extensively (standard env)
@RaghavSood interestingly nano is not free but micro is
 
What's the bot written in?
 
Blood
 
If it's heroku supported, it could be free
I would 100% recommend a Pi over AWS tbh
Once you get the first Pi, you end up buying more
 
7:58 PM
^
 
And it snowballs from there
I have like 9 spread across 5 countries
They're great
 
I wish I had more :(
they get super expensive here
But I do have a RPi 1 model B
 
I'm trying to find a good price on Pi3B+
Or Pi Zeros
I need about 10-20 more
Especially since I don't have ethernet here
 
lol what for
 
And the wifi adapters for my 2/2B+ cost nearly as much as a Pi3B+ abroad
Ohhh
If we buy 150+ units
We can get them at $33 each
 
8:00 PM
I just want to dump it somewhere with minimal effort
 
Who's in?
 
o/
 
Pi is probably not minimum effort
But you learn so much for $35
 
I think I'll bring my pi to work
I miss messing with it
 
I have run servers on pi's before
 
8:03 PM
Then AWS should be easy enough
 
I have served pie before
 
Otherwise, Digital Ocean
$5 is great
If you really want to keep it cheap, scan all GCP/DO/AWS ip ranges and try common user names and passwords until you get into one over SSH
Then just host it there
Free server!
 
But the pie is tastier
 
I should buy cheesecake
 
Raghav.acquire("cheesecake")
 
8:12 PM
^ ThrowsCheeseNotFoundException
 
I've acquired lava cakes
 
Don't burn yourself
 
o/
 
o/
 
the cake is a lie
 
8:19 PM
o/
 
o/ netpork
 
Not cat.
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@Mauker the CNN is showing signs of stress
 
Raghav, please look at this picture:
And learn from your mistakes
 
see those blue spots
 
8:24 PM
@Mauker Not cat, not hotdog
 
@DaveS Flat earth
 
Gradient descent
 
don't get stuck in the local minima, pull yourself out by your bootstraps
 
what kinda flat earth only has the americas on it?
oh right, perfect flat earth
#MakeOtherContinentsUnderwaterAgain
 
never stop searching for the absolute minimum
 
8:26 PM
American education shining through again, clearly. Other continents have never been fully underwater
 
I'm gonna be a motivational speaker for AI
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@RaghavSood fake news
 
@eski trying to cheer up all those depressed and suicidal bots?
 
lmao wtf
 
@Code-Apprentice just trying to help them be the best bots they can be
 
lol
 
I'm stealing your idea mauker. When the robot overlords start enslaving humanity, our place in their society will be cemented.
I'll be skynet's personal guru
 
my plan is to create AI then guilt trip it when it doesn't come home for thanksgiving anymore
 
8:40 PM
alright thanks dave it's working
 
@R15-Zucc $(sudo poweroff)
 
Message for me: @R15-Zucc $(sudo poweroff)
 
Tim is zucc confirmed
 
So Tim is rich?
 
no he is poor zucc
 
8:45 PM
I suppose this will stop running when I exit ssh
 
Perhaps
Easiest way to keep it running is to do screen
Then start the bot in that
Then ctrl-a, ctrl-d
Then exit ssh
Next time you ssh in again, run screen -r to resume your old screen
That's the easy way, though
Ideally, you want to use something like systemd or supervisor to manage long running processes
 
482
Q: How to keep processes running after ending ssh session?

Olivier LalondeLet's say I launch a bunch of processes from a ssh session. Is it possible to terminate the ssh session while keeping those processes running on the remote machine?

@R15-Zucc shoo
 
omg this party parrot pun lmao
 
hahahahaha
 
lol
 
8:51 PM
@R15-Zucc stats 1843331
 
Stats for Tim Castelijns -- Rep: 28711 ✓ - Questions: 14 - Answers: 731 (ratio 4:208.9 ✓) - Name: ✓
 
stats me
 
doing this nohup thing, seems to work
 
Supervisor/systemd are better
If the bot crashes, they will restart it
 
Raghav I don't think you're one to talk about bot crashes, okay?
 
8:53 PM
I'm precisely the person to talk to about crashing bots and getting them to restart
 
why would it crash bro
 
Chat does something unexpected, something else on the system kills it, your instance is rebooted, any number of reasons
 
When chat does something unexpected you just say "I'm sorry, I don't understand your request." How difficult is that??
 
What if Raghav's bot suddenly starts working with no crashes? I bet that would be unexpected
 
That would be unexpected
 
8:57 PM
^
 
what are these crashes you speak of? sorry, I come from type-safe Swift land.
 
That's about as likely as Adam recovering his keystore
 
huehue
 
lol trevor
BR?
 
lol
well what do you expect AndroidBot is written in js afterall
 
8:58 PM
it's not js that's the problem, the problem is it's maintained by spaghetti code that runs on mixed up data
 
adam might identify potential issues during the review, but pretty much everything that can fail is handled
 
Ah right I still have to review it
 
> adam might identify potential issues during the review
 
Issue one: Adam is reviewing it
 
8:59 PM
Tim can you DM me the code link on Facebook I'm more likely to remember when I see it there
 
Issue two: Keystore still present
 
I thought you did it last night. I had a party this morning because I thought since you had no feedback everything is perfect
 
Jun 22 at 20:09, by Mauker
Is he reviewing your code?
 
Link me too, might as well roll access management into it
 
sure I will use FB to communicate with you. Power to zucc
 
9:00 PM
The bot is dead, long live the bot
 
@DaveS Suddenly, Issue 63.
 
lol
 
Potential cat image poster detected
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warming up laser
 
lol
 
Slow.
 
9:01 PM
LOL
 
LOLLL
 
lmao
 
lol
 
That is my favorite easter egg
 
n1
 
9:02 PM
@R15-Zucc HAHAHAHAHAHA
 
easter egg, he says. Bro this is the reason zucc is breathing
 
^
 
100% agree! :D
this is the best message of the day
 
That's the second funniest bot moment in r15.
 
Which one takes the cake?
 
9:04 PM
What's the first, you ask?
 
yeah #1 is the one with the bread huh
 
Jun 9 '17 at 0:04, by AndroidBot
Why, I'm already self aware
 
LMAO
THAT DAY
 
:D
 
/betterEcho #neverForget
 
9:05 PM
lmao so true
 
one of my greatest moments in room 15 history
 
Feb 9 '17 at 15:16, by Cold Fire
I hate realm
actually this day also qualifies for it^
 
oh man this guy called me out in the answer comments for being wrong
so I called him out for being wrong about me being wrong
 
Feb 9 '17 at 15:41, by Cold Fire
Became a Tim criteria :
1) Promote Realm
2) repeat 1
 
when do we fight IRL?
 
9:13 PM
xD that day was fun
 
I 100% starred that
 
omg lol the guy works for Realm too
 
I miss the days where you pretended to not like realm
 
@trevor-e not surprised
 
haha
 
lol you misinterpret
 
why did you remove that
 
misinterpret
 
I propose for Room15User to use composition instead of inheritance
 
9:18 PM
^
 
the bot project is a mess. Adam will be looking the chat lib
 
lol i remember this conversation
link it
 
Jan 26 '17 at 22:49, by Tim Castelijns
np. As long as it doesn't start 10240 threads I am ok
public boolean isTim() {
    return isPromotingRealm();
}
😂
 
lol
 
211
Q: What is a NullPointerException, and how do I fix it?

ZiggyWhat are Null Pointer Exceptions (java.lang.NullPointerException) and what causes them? What methods/tools can be used to determine the cause so that you stop the exception from causing the program to terminate prematurely?

xD
public String whatArePeople(){
return "Tired of Dave's Shit";
}
LMAO
 
9:23 PM
> Rule3: Don’t paste blocks of code into the chat. Make a gist or use another pastebin if you must share code. Any code in the chatroom should be limited to one line at about 80 columns max.
 
:p
lol I've just sent that
 
> Fixed Mauker, it was broken.
xD
lol why is clone adam return codeMagic?
 
If you need two of Adam, get a cM instead
 
@R15-Zucc shoo
 
@R15-Zucc come back friend
 
9:31 PM
Feb 9 '17 at 16:00, by Tim Castelijns
adam, you make me blush
xD that day is gold :D
 
user image
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XD
 
pinned for awareness
 
> You have fully used your vote allowance for today
 
lol
@MehdiB. still not fooled fake mehdi
 
9:37 PM
LOL
 
Thank you Tim, you're showing the way
 
the coca cola one should be on top
 
@DaveS would you reconsider if I said I wasn't tired of your shit?
 
they put the punch line first smh
 
smh XD
 
9:39 PM
oh wait I misread it
 
@MehdiB. I'm listening
 
on which port
 
the Trivial File Transfer Port
 
stamps Mehdi's ID Card Approved
I just realized Mehdi is just a Meh away from being Cardi B
 
9:45 PM
Close enough, I'm just one gender away from her :D
 
lol
good old android 6 year old bugs reappearing stackoverflow.com/questions/10436120/…
awesome google
 
I told you to stop using fragments 6 years ago
nobody to blame but yourself
 
Dx
 
10:37 PM
^ oldest mention by eski of fragments
and it was 5 years ago
 
codehelp4 requested access. Rep: 31 x - Questions: 14 - Answers: 0 (ratio 4:0.0 x) - Name: ✓
 
Rejected!
 
Nice
 
Now I can pretend to be a room owner
 
@codehelp4 Rejected for insufficient rep and q:a ration. You need at least a 4:3 q:a ratio and 80 rep to get access here
 
10:40 PM
 
Tim has finally achieved something useful in life
I'm proud of you, @TimCastelijns
 
I almost believed you were sincere
 
I am, you can update your resume with an endorsement now
 
10:57 PM
I might if you can make those book reviews disappear
 
Eh, I don't hate them. I've nothing to hide there. Some people didn't like them, that's fine. I'm okay with criticism
 
Let's just say they didn't understand
 
11:28 PM
Easier to find Adam's keystore than a positive review of Raghav's book
 
damn, they have families Dave
 

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