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01:16
@CptEric did you use the weather API I linked you too? I actually can't remember which one I linked
02:11
Any good modern android dev tutorials? Thanks
03:04
Big Nerd Ranch has some really awesome tutorials
03:30
o/
BNR is awesome
 
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06:00
@Dsafds I suggest starting at developer.android.com.
 
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07:28
o/
07:42
morning
 
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10:34
morning
11:31
Hello, Timothy
@Adriaan Welcome! Please read, confirm reading, and follow the room rules before you do anything else: room-15.github.io
I have read and understood the rules
Thank you!
@Adriaan probably the only one who has :p
Now as to my problem: I requested the burnination of the HTC tag, and there's a comment stating that there might be hardware-specifics that merit the tag. Can anyone programming for HTC devices shed some light on it?
@JonClements no idea why it was necessary, as you can't legally do anything based on those rules, as my profile might as well be completely fictional
What could possibly be fictional about a pink elephant? :p
11:39
As far as I'm aware (and I'm reasonably aware of this stuff) the only SDK HTC offers on their own is opensense, so no need for an HTC tag
The whole point of Android is to be able to write once, run anywhere. It's like Java for phones. And equally bad at being usable as a developer
Feel free to burn it
@RaghavSood would you might responding then on that meta with your experience? I feel rather unqualified to write anything on it.
Sure, I'll post an answer
I just requested the burnination in line with other company-name tag burninations like apple, microsoft, sony, samsung etc
@RaghavSood thanks
howdy Tim
11:41
you came for some snacks?
I didn't... but if you happen to have some - you'd make a puppy very happy :)
@JonClements Dangles scooby snack
Throws scooby snack at puppy
@Adriaan every device family has its quirks. If htc deserves a tag for that then all other manufacturers do as well
@Adriaan \o/
@TimCastelijns which was indeed my reasoning, but me not being an android/smartphone programmer, I can't rightly say anything on it
Thanks for your answer @RaghavSood. With that I conclude my business here, as I am not an android dev. If you need me, ping me on the question, in the SOCVR or MATLAB room.
11:49
cya o/
Just you and I now, Tim
sets fire to Dutchland
golly
there is a mod here to protect me now. Now more bullying
@RaghavSood Quickly runs to extinguish it
You know it's still 2-to-1 for as long as I didn't leave right?
You're really bad at this whole "concluding my business here" thing
I am, but I can't leave when someone's trying to set my country on fire, now can I
@RaghavSood it's the paperwork and red-tape - takes elephants ages to finish with it :)
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11:51
Gahh, why are there so many of you on here
Oh ya know... just a quick bit of scouting before the main invasion force arrives? :p
@RaghavSood Says the one from a country with over 300M inhabitants :p
Your beginning figure is just a bit too small :P
Judging your name I thought India, then I checked the profile and saw USA. Both a tad bigger and more populous than our small patch of dry seabed
he travels
he was born in the slums of india but moved to america to live the dream
11:55
I'm actually in Singapore right now
I move between India, USA, and Singapore
We might win from Singapore in terms of population. Not sure though
Easily
Singapore is tiny
are you implying we are not
I'm implying that among the things you can't get right is being a tiny nation
so you're saying we are a great nation
11:57
No, I'm saying you're a bad tiny nation
that's mean
It is
My bitcoin trading has failed
some would say you deserved it
I will prevail
I will recoup my losses
And more
The world shall be mine!
ok, but be sure to be home in time for dinner
12:14
@RaghavSood Just remember - if the world can't be yours - make sure it can't belong to anyone else! muhahahahha muhahahaha...
hey @JonClements
what brings you here
Nothing really...
i thought some flags flying around
or maybe scooby snacks
yo Tim and raghav
12:30
o/
@JonClements Oh of course. It's gonna be mine, or it's gonna be ashes
Good man :)
12:42
man i am so tired
2 trips already
now going for 3rd
FML
well local trips
Lonavala
cya heading out then
 
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14:25
@JonClements Did you take a wrong turn at Albuquerque?
Might have had the map upside down...
15:17
Warning: NSFW. Very bone chilling and no comedy.
Sad that this is our country.
And by "our country" I mean the U.S.
@JonClements good to see you. Do you do android? Or just popping in for a mod visit?
Just popped in earlier for no reason whatsoever... played around with Android development last year - but thankfully haven't had to do anything serious with it :)
are you mocking the profession of everybody in here
I enjoy it myself. Warts and all.
Does mod privileges allow you to bypass the gallery setting?
@cygery o/
Yeah, he's not on the write-list
15:24
an intruder!
hahaha
@SiriouslySusan, Atlanta, GA
Susan Bennett, Voice-over Artist and Singer. Most of you know me as the voice of Siri. VOX, Inc., Los Angeles, https://t.co/AbJyrEzbmA
622 tweets, 1744k followers, following 1436k users
she would make a good match for raghav
15:27
never forget
> FOR EVERY SIRI, THERE’S AN ACTOR SITTING IN A SOUND BOOTH, REALLY NEEDING TO GO TO THE BATHROOM
@TimCastelijns Nope - just not envious of it from my experience :)
yeah
some of us share that feeling
it's okay, understandable with the contexts objects needed everywhere
15:58
Mark Zuckerberg meeting truckers in Iowa looks like a movie about an alien who slowly learns to feel https://t.co/9if4vUpq4V
:D
looks like he's getting into politics as well
16:29
LOL
he is
he's going to run for president
a lot of people are saying that
aaaah @jon!
how you doing man
I used to be in the python room a while ago
zuckerberg vs west 2020
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LOL
campaigning over facebook stories
16:56
@LawGimenez Alright thanks
Preety Old Android Studio version then.
17:13
wow
that's ancient
don't use that book
OH MY GOD. I HAVE NO WORDS. MY HOTEL JUST SENT A ROBOT TO MY ROOM TO DELIVER SOME TOOTHPASTE! 😂😂😂 I love @spg hotel… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/878562079707410432
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@RaghavSood ^ Skynet confirmed
I saw a news story about robot room service. They had to ruggedize the bots against the abuse of angry patrons.
And make them less human looking in order to lower customer expectations.
@TimCastelijns who is west?
17:29
Kanye West (the rapper) :D
And what about trumps reelection bid?
@MehdiB. he is all talk
is Trump still as popular as he was? I mean will there be a chance for voters to vote for him a second time?
@Ahmad I threw away some old android books this week. Could not even bring myself to donate then to the thrift store for fear of leading some poor soul astray.
LOL
haha!
17:33
@MehdiB. his disapproval rating is high. That won't stop him from running again. The biggest question is whether any other republican will run against him in primary.
Oh I see, so the approval rating is good within the republican party or is there some kind of fear of running against him?
OMG I made it into Android Weekly! androidweekly.net/issues/issue-263
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Traditionally the incumbent president is that party's nominee. There are some exceptions, but they are rare. (As in not in my lifetime)
in this case, democrats might have a chance of winning :D
17:48
It will be interesting
18:06
what are all these random sites that look like they took 5 mins to make that you have been featured on recently adam?
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Android Weekly is not random though. That one's a big deal haha
Also, ouch
it's so ugly :(
18:14
@AdamMc331 android weekly is a pretty big deal @tim
congrats adam!
Thanks! <3
expect calls from a lot of recruiters :P
I wouldn't mind lol
haha
@Ahmad Yeah. im trying to use any resource for learning android which is modern. Any clue? Thanks
18:24
Udacity?
I loved their Android course.
@AdamMc331 The Sunshine app one?
android weekly can't be that big of a deal, I have never heard of it
:O
Maybe you're just a bad android dev then
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yeah im doing that currently
19:09
hi cM
I see you lurking from the shadows
like sauron's eye
but nice
19:29
@MehdiB. that reminds me... whatever happened to notAhmad? CC @Ahmad
Does anyone have screenshots? @TristanWiley @AdamMc331 @Ahmad @RaghavSood @CarlAnderson @codeMagic?
Does @RO ping all of you?
yo, Timmy! You caught me
Actually, I opened my browser but just now came to see what was happening
CA, it does not ping us. But you did just ping Ahmad twice in about 15 minutes :P
I'm not sure what you want screenshots for...
Wasn't notAhmad guillermo?
20:00
Feb 4 '15 at 18:48, by Ahmad
#jesuischarlie was just the successor of #notahmad
lol
brings back memories
Aug 13 '14 at 23:23, by Carl Anderson
user image
@Code-Apprentice
wow
kotlin train
Wow, I don't even remember being a notAhmad
same
but then again, I wasn't
20:21
...
All of us were not Ahmad for a day to mess with @Tristan and his plugin that switched Guillerme's avatar
ohhhhh
20:39
I GRADUATED!
congratulations fellow graduate
(from High School)
THANK YOU!
were you the valedictorian?
Congrats!
On to high school now! (Too late, I know, but I had to) <3
rekt
Thanks guys <3
what now?
MIT? harvard CS maybe?
University at Buffalo :)
you should have gone to UMich and then lead mhacks
lol
what hackathon is at UB?
lmao I didn't get into UMich
It's called UB Hacking, I'm gonna grow it to something huge
:0
Umich is very competitive
I would never get in
I kinda submitted it like 10 minutes before the deadline, lmao
It's way too expensive for me
have you contacted the UB Hacking team?
Lol
yah the tuition thing
so bad
I'm glad I don't have to deal with that
20:50
Oh definitely, I met the organizers and know like most of the organizing team
sweet!
did you go to the last edition?
I had to miss it for some reason :(
:(
But they're like going to be asking me for feedback and advice and I LOVE IT
Should have went to UND. Boo UofM
21:10
If anyone has a better closure of this, I'll add it stackoverflow.com/questions/44750433/…
The linked one works but I know there's better
22:04
@codeMagic UND?
ahh yeah I know notre dame
I thought you went to purdue?
Purdue, yep. But Notre Dame has always been my favorite college (because of sports and it's 20 minutes from me)
aaah
When I was young, I always planned on going there to be a lawyer because they were supposed to have a great law school. Then I realized I can't stand arguing with stupid people so figured it wouldn't work out. lmao
LOL
same thing here
I couldn't imagine me arguing with stupid people
22:29
ha
also lying to win a case
My problem is that I assume everyone is
sufficiently intelligent as long as I explain my point in the right way. Doesn't get me very far most of the time.
I would save so much time if I just accepted some people are too dense to get it.
Not just dense but not open minded also
That too.
22:57
o/
o/ mauk mauk
lmao
Shouldn't be there long as I flagged for "Multiple snarky, offensive, and irrelevant comments need to be removed. I'm adding one as just a "Let's play nice" that can be removed with the others."
But it gave me something to laugh about for a minute when I'm bored on a Sunday evening :D
haha
But damn, those guys were a bit mean
Indeed. That's why I flagged. That's not what we want here. That's what chat is for :P
23:11
hahahahaha
I'm sure there's something more productive I could be doing right now. I'm just not sure what it is...
omfg
I was starting to do something productive, then you happened cM
Haha! Glad I could help. You almost exerted too much brain power
23:13
I love Kotlin, I love Android
@codeMagic There was a case where the problem was not on the code at all, and it looked like a bool check was going nuts. Turns out that the guy forgot to mention that his device was supposed to run on a super radioactive environment thus the bits on the RAM where getting corrupted and his code was failing.
Ya, radioactive environment can be a bitch
\o MacAttack
Adam McMeanlly!
5 hours ago, by AdamMc331
Maybe you're just a bad android dev then
Talking about me I see
23:22
Life for me is like: You can't be more stupid than that while coding.
Then I'm like: Hold my keyboard.
I'm still over the moon about making it into Android Weekly. This is the greatest thing ever.
@TristanWiley lmao
I am subscribed to Android Weekly newsletter. What did you do?
@codeMagic I didn´t say any lie nor do I regret having written that comment. It´s my first time coding on Android, and my first task was Parsing JSON. We are all humans and nobody is perfect, we all make mistakes. — ctabuyo 3 mins ago
haha
23:37
@LawGimenez I wrote the Not Kotdog post. It's the second one on the list this week.
Nice saw it!
How's Kotlin so far? Would you recommend migrating my codebase to it?
He would recommend you to write everything in Kotlin.
I wouldn't be surprised if Adam started to laugh like: kakakakakakaka
Yes I like Swift, read there are similarities
But I have no problems with Java either
Kotlin is way less verbose
You can also write some parts in kotlin, others in Java
they're compatible
Interesting. How's the compilation or build time on Kotlin on AS?
23:47
I love it
So much
I believe @Adam can answer that better
Kotlin is beautiful
@LawGimenez It's equal to what you'd see in Java I think. I don't notice a difference.
@LawGimenez Absolutely.
Assuming you have the time and resources.
Okay, once AS 3.0 gets stable I'm migrating to Kotlin
"override fun"
Well you can migrate whenever you're ready. It exists as a plugin for existing AS builds already.
Is there an easy way to run a network request synchronously while also avoiding networkonmainthread exception, or am I forced to just use a callback of some kind?
23:55
why do you need to do it synchronously? That exception exists for a reason lmao
You can use OkHttp
I am
well retrofit
it's weird - it didn't fail in my integration tests but when I try to do the same thing from a fragment it yells at me
OkHttp ಠ_ಠ
retrofit uses okhttp
I'm using call.execute()
I don't care, use OkHttp
I'm just teasing
Hmmm
Maybe, just maybe, it's not running on the UiThread at all during the integration tests?
I don't think it is. Hmm. Maybe I'll eliminate the option to do this synchronously
see I'm building an API client
and I was trying to pull off giving the user the chance to make calls synchronously or asynchronously
but I guess making calls synchronously is really that bad. So I might just force the user to do shit asynchronously.

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