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14:02
howdy
dyhow
and again
That sounded chinese-ish
i just thought @Ahmad had popped in early
Guilherm, your DP looks similar to Ahmad, just your has raised his hand :D
14:04
Eric, don't you know the difference between 480p and 1080p?
I mean, Ahmad and Guilherme
@Guilherme alamofire 4x. no reactive, shush, go for SwiftEventBus. MVC adapted to your needs. none. i juse SwiftyJson, is far more easy. use realm for ORM.
Eric has been Tim-ized
He's a realm preacher now. What a horrible death.
@CptEric RxSwift vs SwiftEventBus, pros and cons?
14:08
i find RxSwift too inmature
is Rx bad or SWB is better?
in 3-6 months probably it'll be a far outstanding alternative
which one?
I've been using RxJava on our android app, it seems pretty nice
14:09
one of our externally hired devs used it on last project and we faced a hell lot of issues to port it to greener fields
I'll have a look at both, just in case
rxJava is more mature
yeah
whatever suits yo
realm is better than coredata?
i might be a little tim here, but realm is better than any other ORM out there with ages of mileage in distance
on android DBFlow is it's only speed competitor
i mean, RxSwift is fine if you know what you're doing. seems that the latest releases have solved most of it's issues
that's interesting. even more because I created this new project with core data enabled, and first thing I did was change settings to support iOS 9 and got a message saying some code would only run on 10+
and what are your thoughts on dep injection, why none?
14:15
i'm not really in favour of obscurizing code
makes it harder to maintain
butterknife some views = kay. dagger everything = omg what the hell did we do a year ago?
A year? Try 3 months
i was being optimistic
It's hard to understand the code that was written last week without saying "wtf was I thinking?"
plus you can't assign freshmen or new recruits onto these projects, increasing the burden
on the big devs
14:18
of course you can. let they suffer!
they suffer => spaguetti code => big devs suffer
back~~ :D
big devs start new project from scratch -> no suffering -> freshmen keep learning by maintaining legacy spaghetti code
until there's a "Jake wharton's crazy shower ideas 101" classroom, i'd stick to as less obscurizing metodologies as possible, for my own sanity.
14:20
Will Google pay for a new printer for our office as the OnHub wipe made our printer pretty much useless...
(it worked fine but with the new wifi it just doesn't connect no matter what... yes.. it's a fucking samsung..)
I love when random android devs complains are always the same
hahaha
I'm stating to think my usage of Dagger might actually be very superficial
i've seen fully daggered code. it's a nightmare.
Full of knife cuts and slashes
14:22
where does this annotation go?...
hahah
indeed
I think it is still a good idea if you know when to stop
HAMMERTIME!
o/
14:25
\o
someone was banned. but who?
what?
someone was banned??
bot's hammertime
no
it's not that
i think it says that when you say stop
STOP
14:27
HAMMERTIME!
see?
hahaha! yes!
oh
stop
HAMMERTIME!
14:28
rite
Why's people saying stop
gotcha
that's like the fastest pulled proof of a theory
hahahha
14:28
it was not banned, I just flagged that as inappropriate. one should not interrupt an actual discussion with a vague, stupid and inappropriate pop-culture reference
I hope the mods take this seriously
Let it go Guillherme
tell us more about it
what's that about?
what?
I just flagged that as inappropriate
what did you flag?
the bot's message
14:30
not sure I'm following :D
what bot message?
this bot has no manners...
HAMMERTIME!
ah oh lol
back to dependency injection, @inject("reasons-to-not-use-it-obsessively")
o/ morning
sup adam
Not much. How's Eric today?
14:40
eric has given good advice on road construction
eric has coded swift & javascript all day
eric wants to go to the gym after work
and eric needs to do math homework
I'll be heading to the gym tonight
Drank a lot on Friday night in Leeds :D
Does anyone know how to get Play Services working in the emulator? Keeps telling me it wont work without updating Google Play Services
HAMMERTIME!
damn
It works
14:47
stop testing if the bot reacts to stop commands or it might be overloaded with stop requests and could stop working...
It didn't react :D
stop the stop
HAMMERTIME!
what
how does this work?
stop the stop of the stop
HAMMERTIME!
14:49
XD
can't wait to the beginning of the BANHAMMERTIME
maybe the limit is 3 stops?
stop the stop of the stop then stop
stop the stop stop
HAMMERTIME!
HAMMERTIME!
oh wow
14:50
you fucked it
stop stop stop
sotp
It doesn't listen to me ¬_¬
hahahaha :D
hahaha
14:53
@VividProgrammer Welcome. Please read the room rules room-15.github.io
cM was faster than the bot? :o
the bot doesn't operate in social activities, no welcomes only strikes
I SAID STOP
ts... The bot dislikes his hammertime
hey Kabuto!
14:59
HAMMERTIME!
HAMMERTIME!
HAMMERTIME!
HAMMERTIME!
haha!
Kabuto
HAMMERTIME!
HAMMERTIME!
oh it's a person, thought it was what made the Bot said Hammertime 4 times :D
HAMMERTIME!
nice bot
15:02
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I thought me and the bot were pals
I have read and understood the rules :)
HAMMERTIME!
HAMMERTIME!
HAMMERTIME!
HAMMERTIME!
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oh my gosh
15:06
I've been trying to understand the behaviour of session management done by Google OAuth 2 in mobile browsers but no luck since a week. Ended up posting here

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42486871/behaviour-of-mobile-app-browsers-with-google-sessions-and-account-chooser
Hey @AndroidBot, STOP
HAMMERTIME!
STAWP
HAMMEWTIME!
15:09
HAMMAHTIME!
HAMMERTIME!
jesus
Wait does it say it anytime you say Stop? lol
Bot, stop
HAMMERTIME!
15:10
Stop
50 shades of Stop
it stopped
looks like it's taking orders from you Tristan
Bot, start
STOP
HAMMERTIME!
15:11
XD
waddup tristan
Not much, at school. You?
points to my answer to adam
about 50 hammertimes above
Word
15:20
Excel
!/meow
time
I like my extension /cat better ;)
Bot, stop.
I want Google Assistant to answer to "'Puter"
HAMMERTIME!
-__-
15:40
293
Q: Can a machine be taught to flag spam automatically?

AndyTL;DR: We did it, so... yes. What is this? Charcoal is the organization behind the SmokeDetector bot and other nice things. This bot scans new posts across the entire network for spam posts and reports them to various chatrooms where people can act on them. If a post has been created or edite...

@WarrenFaith Next time you're around, do you mind me picking your brain about it? Got the JaCoCo gradle file created and being applied as part of my build to create coverage tasks - I don't know a lot about gradle and now sure how I'm supposed to be using this...
-1 no hand drawn circles on the graphs, I don't know where to look. — Bhargav Rao Feb 20 at 15:29
Or maybe I should say, I don't know how to have this run inside of AS
Hi Womps, Petey
15:56
oh shot today's monday?
yep :(
graeme, your gravatar image is adorbs!
I hadn't noticed it until today
16:16
@Soumya You need a q:a ratio of 3:4 to talk here. Please see this link for more details.
@Soumya Woah now, hold up right there. Spamming the request access button will only get you banned. Come back in 24 hours and request again IF you have fixed the issues outlined in the last message. Requesting access again in less than 24 hours will result in a ban.
@Soumya Banned. I'm a bot, arguing won't help.
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Muahahahahaha
Damn, got banned over a 1:1 ratio
Thanks :)
@RaghavSood is this a bug in the bot?
@Soumya thanks for helping us test the bot. You've been given write access, please read the rules before chatting: room-15.github.io
it should be a:q 3:4 I thought?
we dropped it from 1:1
16:38
3/4 is 0.75
If the ratio is greater than 0.75, it denies
you have the ratio backwards
30:30 reduces to 1:1, which is 1/1
That is a distinct possibility
@RaghavSood welcome to the Android chatroom, please read the rules: room-15.github.io
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Goddammit
I could've sworn that was q:a once
Although it probably didn't
Time to go~~
Cya people!!! :D
16:46
That still doesn't work for Soumya, though
No wait it does
I can't math at all
bye WOMP!
1/1 = 1
Yup
Forgot to change the > 0.75 to < 0.75 when I changed the ratio around
Okay, should work right now
Anyone used grafana?
@Graeme haven't been around with the default build in solution. I made it back in early 2016 with custom plugins
wrote about it in a blog post
might be pretty outdated already
17:02
looks like I'm starting to get negative fake reviews promoting a competitor
luckily, it already got removed by the time I tried to view it
Well the app is ready to be launched :D
Besides the API issue which is out of my control
Go go go! :D
I can't launch it until the API issue is fixed though
@Graeme within AS you can simply trigger the "run with coverage"
to get that coverage for a CI is probably more complex
17:22
Where is "Run with coverage" :/
next to "run debug"
Ah! Yeah, greyed out.
But, to be fair right now I can't get anything working because our proxy is down :P
you need to select your test run configuration, that should enable the button
Right now I can't get gradle working outside of offline mode. Will try that tomorrow when our infrstructure has got it's head out of it's butt ;)
Thanks for the steer :)
Releasing the app tonight!
@TristanWiley :p
The bot is in control now? Is it safe to comeback?
...well as long as I don't discover any new bugs :D
17:56
is it no longer the time of a certain tool?
!/meowgif
@MarkO'Sullivan don't test :D
18:19
Just pushed it!
Let the bug reporting / crashes begin
In the mean time, here's screenshots until you guys can download it: imgur.com/a/2SfVz
@CptEric can SwiftyJson do json <-> conversion like JSONModel or GSON?
Nice! the UI is clean @MarkO'Sullivan!
I don't like how reactive it is
posted on February 27, 2017 by Android Developers

Posted by Paul Bankhead, Director, Product Management, Google Play  Mobile gaming is more popular than ever. Over the past year, we saw breakout hits, including Pokemon GO, Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes, Clash Royale and Reigns introduce new, high quality gaming experiences on Google Play. Gamers around the world were also able to access Google Play more easily than ever before, helpin

jk, nice looking app
18:50
o/
Thanks guys!
woah, over 100 install already?
wait, there are reviews from august... didn't it launch today?
Mozilla acquires Pocket to gain a foothold on mobile devices http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/27/14752590/mozilla-acquires-pocket-read-it-later?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter https://t.co/2slb4aEj6q
not sure I feel about this
@Guilherme lite app launched in August, full 1.0.0 app released tonight :)
Lite app was so bare
The commercial team is going to be giving the apps a big push so fingers crossed it'll help increase the downloads and in turn increase sales, I can imagine they might give everyone access to a demo account
19:09
cool
mark, what is that wristband you are using
That's the wristband we've developed in-house
All the performance data is tracked and stored on it so essentially you can go play a round a golf without even having your phone on you and access all your stats afterwards
19:38
Nice!
gratz mark!! :)
thank you :)
Don't forget the Gym Mark :D
19:58
@MarkO'Sullivan rating your own app, cheater!
Ken Brown is NOT happy
20:20
@Code-Apprentice whoops
@MehdiB. yeah was planning to go to the gym but honestly feel like I'm coming down with the flu. Aches all over my body :(
@DaveS BLE issues :( he's constantly emailing the support team
BLE will get ya every time
Oh.. Hope you feel better soon :)
The good thing is that you'll be able to rest now without thinking about what you need to deliver tomorrow :D
Is facebook native or both?
I think the main app is native and the Lite version is hybrid. Not sure though.
Any of you guys feel you could compare the feeling of fixing/adding features in order peoples code to the feeling you'd get from wearing their underwear?
20:30
Yes
if they're not helping, yes
Welcome to 90% of my projects in the last 3 years
I think Facebook might be using a proprietary html rendering engine
Good, I'm glad I'm not odd
@Graeme Do you often wear someone else's underwear?
if you work on it long enough you can wear out your own grooves and it starts to feel more like your own, but there's still those skidmarks
20:31
hahahaha
Code - I wouldn't say never :P
Was just curious about how facebook's listview/recycler(what ever you want to call it) is just so fast at rendering.
ban this user for linking to a looper video
20:43
Hello to you, too, @JMRboosties :p
You no like looper?
its clickbaity is all
I was just asked to balance a Binary Search Tree by JFK's airport immigration. Welcome to America.
LOL WAT
what does that even mean?
It means that they asked her a "coding" question to verify her identity
21:24
I wouldn't have passed the custody then :D
I doubt they can understand the solution anyway
they might have a ready to go solution
and if you add 1 additional variable
or name it different than their solution: you're an imposter :D
I'd just answer "I can't because of my labyrinthitis"
I'm sorry today is my LinkedList birthday...
and they'll be like: f*** geek, weeb. Welcome.
Another possibility could also be they just want to get you to talk to see your response and body language, and not actually if you get the right answer or not
21:33
yes that's another option
@Shark you have write access, please start by reading the rules: room-15.github.io
@RaghavSood the bot missed one. Not sure what's going on.
thanks
I have read and understood the rules.

guess you can let me slip for the previous one ;)
so... i gotta ask even though i have a obvious idea... why is the Android room the only locked one? :)
21:41
because we get a lot of help vampires otherwise
it's like Carl had already the answer written and was waiting for this question :D
i'm a newb. what's actually a help vampire? a person that spams the link to it's own question on SO or something worse? :)
someone who only wants to talk about whatever their current issue is, hasn't tried anything, and doesn't contribute anything else to the chat
also there's a link in the rules as well
though, the thing that i said would probably cause a pseudo meta-effect...
aha, someone that pretty much bugs and interviews everyone about his own issue. got it.
although that page is more condescending that I'd like
21:44
wanna know a funfact about vampires?
yes :D
vampir is actually "the only Serbian word everyone knows about and uses it without translation in their own language" :P
or yugoslav/slovenian/whatever :D
when does the fact become "fun" ?
:D
HAHAHAHA!
21:47
never.
you just ruined it... :)
that's carl's job
welcome to room 15, I'll be your dream crusher
i've lived thru worse :)
well, you're a shark, I'd expect that
21:50
aww, thank you. not very dream-crushing of you but still - much appreciated.
22:34
user image
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for everything else use a mac
@Shark are you a Serb?
I have to admit I'm extremely biased against people who use windows as their dev OS
except ofc they do windows dev
Linux ftw!
mac is da best
22:48
im having trouble with the relationship between pivot and scale animations
i have a view with pivotY at 0, yet when i animate scaleY it scale from the center rather than top
oh wait i think is ee
I do Android on my Windows Machine, iOS on my Mac, Web Dev on my Mac, Firmware on my Windows, C# on my Windows

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