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00:51
He's like a zombie lol
btw people!
shirts are coming!
I got an email from Tim confirming that my Stackoverflow shirt is on its waaaaay \o/
I got an email from him too!
Yay!
can't wait
:D
00:52
How did you know Ahmad?
did know what?
Ahh right emailed you. Didnt receive one hmmm
But got an email I was one of the "winners". But confirmation none yet
yeah I wrote him a few weeks back
so he just responded to that
OH YES.
this gonna be me in a few days
Oh my xD
omg if I get stickers than I'm definitely putting them on my laptop
01:01
o/
I need to start sticking something on it
it's still blank
\o magic
Is it still cheaper to build a computer or just as cheap to buy one? I just started looking around again
Ahmad, you look good with a SO shirt :)
cheaper to build. it is like making and preparing your own food.
01:22
I'll probably look into that more. That's what I've done in the past for awhile but wasn't sure if it's still worth it
Thought I'd look at some pre-built machines first but haven't yet found anything amazing for the prices
yeah I've found that even getting a computer custom built is still better than buying one pre-built
I know building it myself was always better in the past but it's been awhile so was shopping around to see if there were better deals now. Doesn't really seem to be
cm, are you going for a hackintosh config?
It'll be Linux with possibly a Windows vm
But I'm open to different things if you have a suggestion
01:47
o/
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mr mime :D
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Yo Paul :D
@Mauker can you look at this picture imgur.com/E7Py4lo
Never a good idea to catch generic exception.
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You know, Eclipse is not that good to inform me "all" exceptions being thrown by a function
01:59
Hold on
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There are also some Exceptions hidden from the JavaDoc that's why I always did it that way
The Double.parse throws NumberFormatException
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Why does it fail to parse this 0.00351264 value?
ParseException for the second one
That's weird indeed.
Change the exceptions
see what happens
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It shouldn't go to the next try catch block AFAIK
02:03
I'm pretty sure we decided in this chat a few years ago that all of Windows was just surrounded in a massive try/catch block
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I can't avoid it :'(
I don't have control to the server
hahaha yesss I actually found the message
Aug 11 '12 at 7:36, by Glitch
Maybe they wrapped the entire OS in a try catch block.
Funny thing to be said by someone called "Glitch"
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lol
02:09
LOL yeah I remember that
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@Mauker it works now after I changed it to this imgur.com/mYzhhZW
But WHY is that!?
Wait
Perhaps something else was raising an exception.
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weird
That's why I don't like generic exceptions.
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oh it's not the value
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it's when I add a duplicate values from the TimeSeries
from the JFreeChart
And then, an exception was raised.
Which you were not prepared to handle
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Yeah my bad
Happens on the best families
Hey guys
02:18
Hey Tristans
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Hey Tristans
What's up
An Exception
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An Exception who?
We don't know, it's generic.
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02:19
Try casting until it succeeds
 
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03:24
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03:43
\o
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\o
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FRIDAY
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:'(
48hrs here
03:57
The new G+ recently is good
04:18
Wooo, material
The cards could be bigger tho
play store updated for me today too, it's really nice
Play store too
Need to clean up some communities
04:36
I'm prepping an android tech interview - what are some good questions to ask the interviewee?
Different between Service and IntentService
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spelling?
Folks, I've read about 9-patch in an Android book today. I haven't heard about 9-patch before.
Is 9-patch a purely Android thing, or is it used in other ecosystems too?
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It's known before Android is born
@LawGimenez Oooh good one, thanks - I had Service vs. AsyncTask and which one blocks UI process...
@mr5 Have 9-patch caught-on anywhere else outside Android ?
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05:11
Adobe Photoshop
@jlindenbaum Do either of those block the UI process?
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It's applicable also in some GUI frameworks like Qt
@mcAdam331 Service does.
Service runs on the same thread, you'd have to start it from within a thread to have it not run on main thread.
I thought service ran in the background?
huh. TIL
05:12
Nope
IntentService do.
I don't think I have what it takes to get through an Android interview, I'm so ashamed.
I wonder if I do.
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@NickAlexeev the first time I encountered that word when I'm implementing my own GUI and I needed a rounded rectangle
This freaking problem is not solved yet :( stackoverflow.com/questions/33863792/…
this is what i've got so far.. fizzbuzz, implement / walk me through either an LRU cache, or an algorithm for cycle detection in a doubly linked list... and then android questions.. service vs. async task, activity vs. fragment, common caching patterns for adapters, adapters vs. recycler - what else?
05:15
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@netpork @Cjames @mr5
> mew
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@maveň meow.
@jlin my go-to one: implement an infinite scrolling listview
05:17
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(or recylcer view)
@mcadam intenservice run in a different thread, service are on the UI thread
oh mauker already told you
@Cjames long time.. no talkz ... I was at home ... how all on mars ? & Boobies out there :P
wow yep I definitely couldn't get through that interview
fuck and i think I could work at google? I'm ashamed.
do yourself a favour and pls read through the support library
will make you feel better
Just so y'all know, in 3 hours the Nexus 6 will be on sale for 199$
05:21
@jlin who's the lucky guy/gal? full time or intern?
@Ahmad Best thing I ever did
ikr
ahmad - thanks i'll have to look into infinite myself, especially with a networked content provider - even we don't use that haha
part-time til he defends his masters, then full time... insanely smart dude, but not sure on his android skills, so this has to at least test the basics
aaah nice!
:)
Mars is wet
@maveň
05:22
the problem with most masters students i've worked with is that they're super smart, but they've rarely put their code into any kind of production, or worked on teams, so the code isn't very nice.
The basics? what about Activity and fragment lifecycle?
yeah, replace masters with any kind of out-of-uni person
phd level code
mauker, yeah i have that as party of my activity vs fragment line of questioning
I've heard stories - and they ain't pretty
i was a research summer student at my u under a really smart prof that started writing some program for simulations, and the students had to finish it... we rewrote it - it was spaghetti when we got it
05:25
hehe
my prof actually doesn't seem bad
she uses emacs
so she must be a pro
lol
@Cjames cat here we have winter :D
bahaha
let's see where I end up this summer
I really want to do US
Canada!
05:29
Actually, do the US and immerse yourself into the crazy insanity that is Silicon Valley, and then go anywhere else haha
I wanted to actually - one company in waterloo was very interested
one company in saskatoon is very interested.
but I'm currently looking into something in NYC
hahah :D
05:30
;)
I have a friend that could hook you up with Pivotal, and I have a friend at Percolate in NYC - he's one of their Android leads.
I'd very much love to, but at this stage I think it would be more beneficial for me to go big-name than startup
@Ahmad How does one 'read through the support library'?
you read the source code on github
@jlindenbaum thanks! :) but I'm already in talks with one company
aka the company I'm already at :D
05:32
pfft. what does microsoft have that percolate doesn't?
that big 7k intern salary
jk jk
hahaha
(actually not even kidding - a good friend of mine got 6.5k in redmond this summer)
but I don't really care about the money
As long as it pays the bills.
exactly
I've read about jane street interns getting 10k + a relocation bonus, this shit is just crazy
also @mcadam I've not forgot about this sin
Nov 10 at 2:04, by McAdam331
@Ahmad What is the butterknife library for? I only know of Jake wharton because of you guys.
05:37
wat
plz forget
It's only been 2 weeks
wounds don't heal that fast
You'll need stitches.
It will take me ages to read the support library features
:(
maybe once classes end
no no no
you misunderstood
I meant read the actual code
the code is horrible
Ahmad, saw my question up there? :(
It's driving me nuts
05:45
sorry, can't help rn, I should be studying for a test :(
the test is in ~2 hours
Oh :o
good luck
thanks!
ahm, when the average SV wage for devs is like 110k, 10k a month isn't crazy
true
but it still doesn't fit into my german-suburban mind
06:13
If the code is horrible how will I learn something
and why would I do such a thing, isn't the library huge? haha
06:36
Yo Shinobis
yooo
How are you doing ?
Fine :)
you?
Yeah! I am Good :)
Isn't it too late for you already ?
It is
I'm programming with Adam
We're insane.
06:43
Well...
Certainly you're.
06:58
we are
it's bad
it's early
holy shit it's 2 am
:)
lol Just now remember, @Trist was going to make a circle avatar for me. I wonder if he could? I mean it's already been 2 days.
2 days ago, by Tristan Wiley
@TheLittleNaruto what color do you want?
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@Mauker that comic reminds me of this question about the probability of cosmic rays to flip bits
good morning all
morning
vgm Cpt, Leo
07:12
yo Naruto
have you backed to work?
cool
backed?
what did i miss?
07:15
he went on a very long holiday
cool :P
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oh man I love historical Q&As stackoverflow.com/questions/1133581/…
lol
weird thing
we don't have those kind of problems here
:p
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haha
The questions turns like a CIA where the programmers are the investigator
07:25
"The submission to the bank is known as settlement, and its done by sending a plain text file in a very rigid format. (This was all developed decades ago and the number of systems now using it makes it hard to modernise)" not in europe since the early 90's
servired/4B security sistems (enforced by EU) require auth handshakes and direct connection to the bank's TPV bbdd.
all credit/debit cards are enforced to use PIN system too, and the widthdrawal of money is instant.
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one of the answer suggests that it may be a hacking activity because of the constant value, and on the comments they are decoding the patterns
yeah, but it's virtually impossible to hack a on-the-net vpt/tpv (vending point terminal) here, all the data is cyphered by the bank
i thought it was the same everywhere actually
(i've got a friend working as programmer for many banks, Indra systems.)
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have you seen the answer where he translates the hex into Chinese characters which is a name of company? lol
XDXD
"I think everything is much more deeper that this. If you multiply this number by the height of Pyramid of Khufu and then multiply every third number by 2012 you will get exactly 1/666 length to the Alpha Centauri. – serg Jul 17 '09 at 15:15
2

@serg555: This is scary."
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I LOLed with that
07:48
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\o cygery
porting a 3 year old app
worked at first compile
good job random freelance guy.
morning peeps
08:05
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what news do you bring from the north, moeri?
ehm i was supposed to bring news? :D
terror level lowered from 4 to 3
i was in brussels yesterday night
everything seemed calm
good
:3
Sounds good.
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you forgot to say, "back to you CptEric"
08:17
I really mean it, I heard news about Belgium and stuff.
damn cameras
and damn aspect ratios
back to you Eric :D
one last thing
apparently they didn't catch any terrorists
but all the police and army presence and the fact that the streets were empty chased them off .. temporarily probably
08:40
The one I saw on the news, are those your regular armies? Full balaclavas
Or special forces?
ehm we have four kinds of forces
regional police, federal police, the army and special intervention unit (= most heavily armed)
and they show all 4 on the news :p
09:01
I guess it's the army?
o/
that is the army yes
these are the special forces
09:19
But... I can see nobody in Law's image...
^ XD
urban camo level = noob.
btw
jsut finished doing weird things
with cameras
and thumbnails
i feel dirty
go clean yourself!
\o btw :D
09:40
hi :)
I just suck at this: Pokemon or Big data?
anyway: I just informed my company that I will leave, it is now official
congratz
how did they take the news
congratz
09:45
they asked what they have to do to make me stay
i felt the same as you said yesterday when i left my last job
until my supervisor told me "are you serious? run, and don't look back!, don't feel sorry for wanting a better job.".
but I said that it is not about money and that any change would probably just delay the fact that I want to leave
I know that they do not take this personally so I think they are disappointed but they understand
so where are you going to?
I am going to AVM, a german company that builds router, powerlines and phones (for land line)
their most famous product is the Fritzbox router
oh, i thought you were already there
frm the conversation yesterday
well, congratz again, hope you find it interesting and funny ( as fun as a job can be).
09:54
a job can be very fun
if you are passionate about the things you do and build
hours fly by
getting an employee to the point where he cares about the company, that's a difficult thing
and gets harder the bigger the company is
yes, but sometimes you have to clean up past year messes :/
that's nto as fun
at my current company I was at that point for several years...
you will find legacy and past messes in every company
the deciding factor is whether they give you space and time to clean it up
or if they force you to add shit to the existing pile
of course you will almost never get the opportunity to rewrite or do things all at once
09:55
cleaning up messes is fun, being forbidden to clean up because MOAR FEATURES is what drives me mad
but if you work in iterations, and you are allowed to claim a day or two per iteration to do "developer-happiness" tasks, then you are golden
here we work in scrum iterations, and have 3 kinds of tasks
i work in a now settled, stable, ex-startup. we are buried in new projects every day.
1. Green cards = "customer happiness" = product tasks, new features, etc. Adds functionality or improves upon it
09:57
no time to get bored
2. White cards = subtasks. No value on their own, but necessary for something else.
Eric, is there any support library for IOS?
wut?
support library?
3. Blue cards = "developer happiness" = no value for the customer, but good for longevity, architecture, etc
Equivalent to android-support. Backward compatibility.
09:58
you mean legacy?
afaik
ios is always backward compatible
atleast to the last accepted version
so when a ios version is old enough to die, they kill them
A friend of mine is telling me that with IOS9 or something that is not the case
like a lot of stuff are deprecated now
nah, it is. you just have to move aaaall the code to swift 2.0
not deprecated, just, changed.
the whole language got a revamp
you can still use the old ways® , just the names changed :P
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