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15:02
why is your gpu hot? playin' games?
nope, just a really hot card
4870x2
Is he really chewing gum on stage
I skipped 20 minutes and still no substance
So basically this guy is a massive wanker who spams users
15:20
lol
15:35
hello
greetings
@Mr.Meshuggah Rejected for now, since your SO activity is low
answer some stuff and try again
how are you @codeMagic?
15:47
Frustrated with work (as usual) but other than that not bad.
How is Spain? You're still there, aren't you?
yeah, I am still here
Spain is awesome
I am having a great time
today I am nervous for Argentina's game...
i am just hoping it is going to be a better match than the one yesterday
Awesome!
yesterday was...sad...
even if you are not Brazilian, you felt bad
From what I heard, it was brutal
15:51
I don't feel bad, it's poetic justice
Are you near where they have the running of the bulls? Looks like it is this week.
I am not close to Pamplona
Spend billions to play a silly game instead of looking after your citizens
that was sad too
wow, dealing with EXIF is almost as annoying as dealing with the Facebook SDK, but not quite.
16:01
few things in life are more annoying than the Facebook SDK
any idea when they're going to publish the 5000 new API calls for L?
didn't they already?
you can download the L preview sdk
They released it the day after the I/O talk
ah ok
are the changes already up on developer.android.com ?
well, some
the stuff from the support lib (i.e. CardView) is not there
the docs under Android L in the SDK Manager are the same as API 19 as far as I could see
16:14
I only know .. google.com/design
for example, that link is not part of the docs you get when you download the "Android L docs" from the manager
very little from Android L is actually in the preview
that'y my understanding anyway
I'm going to wait until it's released before working on it, better support and more information
@Mr.Meshuggah Following the short discussion in the node.js room I am letting you in. Welcome. Please read the room rules.
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Thank you Ahmad, so kindly.
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16:27
How are you guys, seems a bit cosy in here.
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At least from what I read.
:D
good and you?
Btw, did someone actually check out ReclyclerView (or what was it called again?) aka ListView 2.0?
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Good, good, planning to come back to the programming playground, and waiting eagerly about the new L system.
I did, but I didn't implement it
it is a forced ViewHolder implementation
Oh nice
yeah I saw something for that on the slides I think
JW published a diff of the support libs on gist if someone's interested
16:30
there's some articles about it already
but im not touching it until the api7 version comes out
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I think the RecyclerView also has this new convention for material they have introduced recently.
ah so that's what JW was using jardiff for
very clever
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And it has some advantages over ListView
I tried importing the jar with gradle
but I had no luck
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I tested it and also it seems that the animations for adding and removing items are there by default.
I referenced:
compile 'com.android.support:appcompat-v7:21.0.0-rc1'
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Wow, such big font on that website Abdellah.
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Hey, btw, any football fans in here?
<-fan
oh nice Abdellah
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16:34
I am still wondering whether I should be against those pesky Dutchies or be with them since they speak a language close to mine.
Mr.Meshuggah: of course
did you see the match yesterday?
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@Emmanuel are you for the Dutch or the Args?
Argentina all the way!
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Yes, amazing thing
yeah man
unfortunately I'm not home in Germany, all my friends said they skipped school and partied all night lol
16:35
my family is from Argentina, and I lived there for 14 years
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Ah, cool, cool!
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My face was something like this when I started the TV and I was like 25 minutes in already, I have totally forgotten about it.
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lol
Didn't Gabriele Mariotti try out the RecyclerView?
16:36
lol
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I was like, wow, those Germans are amazing.
I do not like how they are forcing me to use the ViewHolder pattern like that
There's his posts on it
I'm being called ot go to lunch!
16:37
@adam no he did something with the floating button irc
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Did you hear, there was this Dutch guy who put 600 euros on (7-1) and won like 1.3 million?
Back soon.
I typically extends some ViewGroup
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@AdamS not found unfortunately.
later adam
1.3 million?!
No way.
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16:38
yeah
600€? how? why? is he crazy?
you can't bet on something like that so high
wow.
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Hm, it might be a scam, let me check. I heard it in the Lounge <C++> channel. Let me research.
user2862309
I think it is a scam, sorry for the misinformation.
Probably a lie
Some guy on Reddit bid $20 and won 50k
But I think he bid on a few obscure scores
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@Emmanuel, what are you doing in Spain?
16:41
vacation
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Vacation?
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Aha, I see
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Nice, they speak Spanish there at least, but it's a bit different than the one in Latin America. It's like they have just had a hot potato or something and their thong is burned.
I do not dislike the accent from most places in Spain
the same way I do not dislike the accent from most Latin American countries
16:56
hmm, i just got a feeling that @Mr.Meshuggah is actually @zigi :D
Oh yeah looks like it was shared privately soz Meshuggah
I just grabbed the links real quick before heading out
Looks like there's not really any useful code in there anyway
17:16
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Q: Why shouldn't Parcelable be persisted to disk?

trevor-eTo my knowledge, making an object Parcelable allows for it to be converted into a compact binary format, making it ideal for IPC. My question is why this binary format is not recommended for persistence. The argument against it in the docs is that the binary format could change and cause proble...

Trevor, I think it's because you have to pull things out in the same order they went in.
arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/07/… <-- paid apps broken for AndroidWear
yea, but can't the developer just be responsible for handling that?
However, you could get around this by putting a version number as the first value you put in, and then changing your "deparcelize" code depending on that.
So, er, yeap.
like if I'm making a cache of objects
maybe I don't care if the format changes
if it did, I would just invalidate the cache
17:19
Yeah.
You raise a good point.
I'm thinking it may be a good weekend project for me to do, extract the native Parcel code into a library project or something
not sure if do-able but worth a shot
17:33
I have a 0.8.2 update available to me through AS updater
Can't find any release notes either
Oh hell, what could possibly go wrong? updates
@Eugene. I am going to give you a chance. You have write access. Please read the rules and follow them.
Thanks
print map(lambda x: x.attrs['rdf:about'], self.file_types)
I feel fancy. Lambdas and mapping?
jk, it's quite lame.
what's that from Ahmad?
Python mm?
17:46
yeah python
writing a project gutenberg offline thingy
so basically downloading the whole 700 gb of project gutenberg
Hey everyone!
and loading it to ebooks which will be distributed in Mali
Appu!
Haven't seen you in a while
what's up?
do you know any perl Ahmad?
Bit busy with work these days. Not able to spend much time on SO. What's up with you?
Unfortunately not, carl
Not much appu, just coding away like always
and drinking lots of tee
too much perhaps
17:51
lol Ahmad
Hi people
Jk, there's no such thing as too much tee, tee is as healthy as water
4
you have trouble with that word
I assume, that Android L preview is point to use now only if you have a spare phone for developing.
with tee?
17:51
we've done this before
omg shit.
SHIT
FU*K
OMG, I'm dying of laughter
17:52
how the heck do I aways write tee?!
Like seriously.
I knew it looked funny.
Maybe I just need more tea to wake up.
Or maybe you have an itch to go golfing...
Lol!
k thnx personal grammer nazi
:D
lolololol
well it's more a spelling nazi-ing(?)
17:53
I don't think normal tea is good for health except green tea.
I prefer "language tutor", thanks
lol
define normal tea
I mostly drink black and green tea
chai is not healthy, that's for sure
there's not a lot of difference between black and green in terms of how healthy one is versus the other
@Eugene you have to load a phone with an Android L image
the emulator doesn't work unless you have like 64GB of RAM and the best CPU possible
That's good then. Here in India Tea implicitly means the one which is made with milk
18:00
Yep. That's what I thought. Sadly not possible. I have only one phone and I need it to work in full power. All apps, that I have, etc. Also it seems, that Android Studio did die?
Android L is nice
But I still can't manage to get AS to see CardView
Your embarrassment has not gone unnoticed @Ahmad. Star power!
And now, sleep!
:|
good night @Glitch
I have a N4 with a smashed screen, wanna buy it?
my father let his N4 fell from the car last month
@Eugene AS died? o.0
it just into beta
18:17
Nah want another N5 to test L with
oh cool
Call me crazy, but I am running Android L on my personal device
I thought it died. It is in beta for quite some time now. Loaded latest version. It doesn't even support renering for android version higher that 4.2 I think due to rendering library(for layout preview during development)
Hey again, long time no see :)
Emmanuel, that's crazy.
18:20
I am crazy!
@Emmanuel that's crazy man.
I'm tellin' ya.
I live life to the fullest. YOLO!
#carpe-diem
Are there a lot of security risks?
18:28
not that I know of
I just had my fair share of problems with not-yet-released-or-stable-OS'
But you're probably alright
is it fast?
faster than KK?
and how's the battery?
It has a lot of Animations
Battery seems fine
aren't the animations annoying?
It has some nice little things
A bit maybe
Nothing too bad
oh okay
When you charge your phone it tells you how long it will take to charge
18:33
Oh nice!
I really like the new recent apps menu
Yeah
The Material design paradigm is cool
heh.. that Mr Messhuga guy sure disappeared quick after @netpork mentioned him sounding a lot like zigi.
@CarlAnderson this is what I needed to do.
((TextView) getListView().getChildAt(j)).setTextColor(Color.GREEN);
Boy, I sure made it overly complicated
18:40
Any of you got any experience with Parse.com?
lol Reno
I charge for Parse help
cM, it needed more copy-pasting
Lol
That j on cM's code worries me...
I hate you, Carl
You too, Emm
18:42
j implies there is an i on the same scope...
just wait for the k
Damn Emmanuel, I'm just a noob :P
It's inside of run()
Inside a Runnable inside runOnUiThread() inside doInBackground()
We know how you are...
Obviously
I do also have an 'x' in the for loop just before that
maybe that helps
18:48
Nice O(n^2)
I dropped the 2, but mentally it is there
@JesperJacobsen their docs are decent
@Emmanuel Yeah, I just have a problem selecting data from an array column
just pushed Trover 2.0.4 to the play store
now to work on even more bug fixes
Is that an array the is supposed to be a picture?
No, it's just an array with two values
@Ahmad are you around?
So a ParseObject that has an array with two values?
18:56
Ahmad's too busy golfing.
Brazil's tribute to Neymar was sweet. He couldn't play, so neither did the rest of the team
rofl Reno
With the money we donate to Wikipedia
LOL Reno
yeah around now @Emmanuel
I love owning almost half of the starred comments on the wall.
19:05
I sent you a gchat message
lol carl
wow, can anyone make heads or tails out of this crash? pastebin.com/U9acaXmf
> at iv.a(SourceFile:56)
at what?
Sourcefile? iv.a?
user457812
Sounds like obfuscation
19:13
or JNI
same thing, right? :D
Haha :p
if I have a fragment that inherts from SherlockFragment, I use the v4 support manager to manage the fragments, not the regular one, right?
really need to rip out ABS and v4 support soon, but not until these other bugs are fixed.
Sounds right.
19:33
can soemone pull up google play services on their phone
and tell me what the latest version theyre running is
ok, same
thanks
19:47
anyone know if android's java.util.date was updated in kitkat?
with what/updated with?
Hows everyone ,
actually nevermind, think I found my answer
u know with even with using odin with S3 4.4.2 updated kitkat i can not find a correct way to root the phone
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As in that poem about a blind horse that isn't moving: exploding with possibility.
19:49
i been searching everywhere
hi fred, have you tried towelroot?
www.towelroot.com (by geohot)
hmm is it a apk file
yes
more info on geohot here : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz
lol seems to work wander why no mentions in xda
heh, I found it on xda
20:00
for su normal or cwm/twp wonder why cwm
should i put su using recovery and install from zip cause nevermind su is ok
which SuperUser app do u perfer petey the one that looks like superman and the #
I like chainfire SuperSu, here is the xda thread for that
thats what i have too it looms like superman yellow # logo on device
wonder do you convert in sysetem app or just leave most settings alone
yea..on all my nexii I flash that SuperSu2.01 zip using install on TWRP (havent used CWM in some time). on the vz galaxy s5 I left it as is since towelroot had installed it & my Wifi tether application worked just fine.
there an option enable su during boot (do check that setting)
?
20:30
idk...I think the normal flow is make a system level app. I never use those buttons until I have to
@KurtWagner Rejected for now, please answer some more questions and request access again.
20:41
interesting
Arrays.asList() doesn't return a normal ArrayList
but instead java.util.Arrays$ArrayList
yea...like String[] or ObjClass[]
oh..I have it backwards
heheh
bundles only have a .putParcelableArrayListExtra() method which is why the difference matters
it crashed and I was like o_O
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21:07
So, I killed a zombie boar and got a piece of raw meat.
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It's a pretty big piece of meat.
21:39
@emmanuel man, still 0:0?
get yourself off of tee, and find some coffee.
haha :p
I'd rather go for a cup of Earl Grey instead
too bad we don't have it here

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