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5:00 AM
@EmilianoInsua You have write access. Read the rules of the chat room and respond that you understand them within 10 minutes.
 
user457812
I'm pretty used to hearing Godfather names/references because my family was briefly obsessed with the films.
 
Nil, the Godfather is genre-defining.
 
user457812
It is genre-defining, it is not actually entertaining anymore because the cultural context is gone.
 
I think I'll try to make the time to watch them again once I get home internet
 
I watched them with my son a few months ago as it happens.
 
5:01 AM
I'll try to watch them once I finish my queue of 40 anime series.
Btw, in case anyone missed it, those Godfather accounts are all railing for this account to be an SO mod: stackoverflow.com/users/2581872/hichris123
 
My youngest is obsessed with anime.
 
You'd know what to do.
 
user457812
It's kind of like if you see any rendition of A Streetcar Named Desire that's not modern
 
And things Japanese.
 
user457812
How many people are going to even understand what Polack means in the context?
 
5:02 AM
Duncan: What is your youngest watching?
I watch a lot of anime.
 
A wiaboo almost (sp?)
 
user457812
If they just watch anime, they ain't weeaboo
 
user457812
Weeaboo is like.. ultra-obsession. Wanting to be Japanese and all that, sort of.
 
user457812
That is, wanting to be Japanese because of anime.
 
@borrrden i understand...
 
5:04 AM
I forget names Enrico
 
Once your youngest is old enough, watch Death Note with him: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Note
 
I am getting invites from M.C from other groups...
 
I'm indifferent at best
 
user457812
@EmilianoInsua Just click on his name and click "Ignore this user"
 
@EmilianoInsua can you screenshot them? We can ask the mod to ban them if they keep harassing you.
 
user457812
5:05 AM
Invites don't actually go through after that.
 
@nil ok i will do it...
 
That M.C guy is in like 15 rooms.
 
Lol it is amusing that people come here for advice about trolls
@DuncanC Any questions about Japan can come here
 
@EnricoSusatyo will screenshot them and post them if they irritate again
 
5:06 AM
Apparanty he created Anti NSChat room
 
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
 
HAAAAAAAAAA
 
user457812
And the room will die, like so many others.
 
LOLLLL
 
And he is enjoying himself there.
 
5:07 AM
Wats wid the godfather characters?this movie was like decades ago...
 
One time someone made a Facebook group called "Jim Borden is the most pathetic person on the planet"
 
user457812
I'm sure he is. makes a stroking gesture
 
That was not nice of them :p
 
user457812
@EmilianoInsua FYI, no chat speak
 
LOL HE JUST INVITED ME
 
5:07 AM
Haha.
 
Yes the movie is old, but still popular
 
@borrrden watched it long time back..cant remember the movie also..just remember the names....:/
 
Anybody do anything interesting technically today?
 
Learning reactive programming and node.js :D
 
user457812
I started working on a GUI library.
 
5:09 AM
M doing a digital signature on a pdf page for security purpose..
 
And fighting with C++ at work
 
user457812
Chat speak, Emiliano.
 
user457812
Curb it.
 
Me: upgrading an iOS 6 app to iOS 7 while maintaining compatibility back to iOS 4.3. Big fun.
 
Invited me too.
 
5:09 AM
M => I'm
 
I didnt get u @nil
 
user457812
Did he really read the rules?
 
It means use proper English words
As it states in the rules
 
Emilliano: You should use proper English words. Not 'M', 'wats', etc.
 
my bad... sirry @nil
 
user457812
5:10 AM
I don't think he read the rules.
 
ok my bad....
 
And don't ping people.
 
That's pain Enrico
 
You should read the rules once again.
 
user457812
Can I just ban him?
 
5:10 AM
sorry.Reading the rules...
 
Emiliano if you ping once more, nil will ban you
 
Duncan: It is a pain. Have you done something like this?
 
As Abizern said once: "You have two hands fully functional and a keyboard. Make proper use of them to type English."
 
I just got invited to anti N.S. chat as well
 
5:11 AM
you're nuts about banning people, nil.
 
user457812
It's fun.
 
How can we report to mods that M.C is being annoying?
 
I've tried, but mostly given up on <iOS 5
 
user457812
There's no effective way. You can only flag messages
 
user457812
Better to just ping ThiefMaster later when he's around.
 
5:12 AM
anyone has done digital signature on a pdf page,kind of like a watermark?
 
It's late. I need to turn in
 
Goodnight Duncan.
 
@EmilianoInsua Rule #1,#2
 
Emilliano: I haven't, but I might be doing that in the next project.
 
There is only a few lines of text in there :p
 
5:13 AM
And the iPad SO chat interface ROTS.
 
Enrico:ok fine...
 
LOL I saw that borrrden
Hahahahahaha
Are those people who got banned got their rep reduced to 1?
Poor guys. Shouldn't have been dicks.
 
What crap he is talking about? Does not make sense to me.
 
Why did they get their reputation down to 1?
 
5:16 AM
Because they were stupid.
 
hahaha.really?spamming I guess?
 
user457812
I think that little group of people might actually be stupid enough to believe themselves.
 
3
A: Scroll with Selenium

M.CSelenium 2 tries to scroll to the element and then click on it. This is because Selenium 2 will not interact with an element unless it thinks that it is visible. Scrolling to the element happens implicitly so you just need to find the item and then work with it.

He answered one of Emilliano's question.
 
Yes I guess so.
 
5:20 AM
I assume due to sock puppet they were banned. Whatever lets ignore them and be productive.
 
whatever happened to @RobinHood ?
 
Yes I agree rohan.
 
Not the best sock puppeteers though.
 
They started inviting me to other rooms. Ignored
 
Someone flagged that posted you just made, Enrico
 
5:23 AM
Who is starring my messages? :/
 
I sent it back as invalid :p
 
user457812
Well, if they start abusing the flag system, they're going to very quickly get banned again.
 
Can you flag messages without write access?
 
We can't star without access, right?
 
And star?
 
5:24 AM
he is flagging borrden to
 
user457812
You can flag/star without write access.
 
well that sucks
 
Someone is starring everything
 
Ehh. This is stupid
Call the mods. Get them banned
 
user457812
They're certainly persistent when it comes to wasting their own time.
 
user457812
5:26 AM
goes back to working on the GUI library
 
laddu have you got gift
 
i have selected
are you sending
who else wants to send me gifts are welcome
 
Ok. Thats enough. I will write a mail to stack overflow. Taking screenshots and providing their profile links. There are total of 3 clowns of them.
 
Can you see who is doing it?
 
M.C. and Tom Hagen
 
user457812
5:31 AM
No, but we already know >_>
 
And the other Corleone
They must feel so proud of themselves :D
 
Just flag one of their posts in their room
 
laddu soon you will get gift
 
and that would be enough for them to get banned.
 
NSChat v/s Anti NSChat
:(
 
5:34 AM
when? Should I send my wish list?
 
Borrden they deleted their messages how come?
 
I am getting invitation of Anti NSChat.
 
send me now
 
@Nirav Ignore them and focus on work.
 
ok
wait
 
5:35 AM
what is shub-niggurath?
 
And just flag their messages.
1 message moved to recycle bin
 
user457812
Don't bother flagging their messages unless there's something flag-worthy about them.
 
user457812
That just annoys the users who get flags.
 
user457812
The last thing I want is us pissing off the Lounge.
 
but how they are sending invitation to everyone who enters in NSChat?
 
5:38 AM
Ok. But I flagged as they seemed to be in mood of starting flame war.
 
what is shub-niggurath in the tags?
 
Google it.
Ok. Everyone good night. Those who are in northern part stay warm.
 
I want this
 
ok fine soon you will get
 
how
 
5:41 AM
they ship from India to the U.S.?
 
Good question.
 
oh dunno
 
Are your'll all Indians?
 
yes I am.
 
@borrrden lol what?
 
5:42 AM
can anyone tell this Insua to stop? @nil
he/she is member of Anti NSChat.
 
why you say so?
 
How will I get my gift? Give me a website that ships to US
 
Nirav: you can click "ignore this user"
 
Don't flag them back
It's a waste of time and you will likely get banned as well
 
Ah ok I won't do it any more then.
How can you see all these notifications, borrrden?
 
5:46 AM
@rohan-patel ಠ_ಠ
 
dont undastand what happend got lots of flags from this chat room
@BoltClock
:(
 
I don't understand either
 
It's complicated
 
please help us guys
 
They started trolling this room a few days ago.
Then they started inviting a lot of us to random rooms.
 
5:48 AM
laddu i am waiting your mail
 
user457812
@BoltClock The short story is this: @M.C was banned yesterday for flagging and invite-spamming
 
And starring all messages
 
can someone able to stop it?
 
user457812
And he re-registered under a puppet account today to.. continue that apparently.
 
Then they said we need to vote for hichris123 in election.
 
5:48 AM
@Sport I am finding a new website that ships to US locations. Need 30 minutes
 
user457812
Not sure why, but whatever, they're apparently obsessed with the Godfather movies and pretending to be offended about something.
 
room Owners must block this user who disturb
 
see how he has activated account
to able chat and create a room
some guys are helping them.
 
We blocked them, but we can't stop them from inviting people to other rooms.
 
Oh boy
 
user457812
5:51 AM
Doesn't matter, they're just being mildly annoying, ignore 'em
 
user457812
Like, using the ignore-user feature, I mean.
 
11
Q: Scroll Element into View with Selenium

Dan at DemandIs there any way in either Selenium 1.x or 2.x to scroll the browser window so that a particular element identified by an XPath is in view of the browser? There is a focus method in Selenium, but it does not seem to physically scroll the view in FireFox. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to...

@Nirav That question and answer are both copied and pasted from another one
 
Both account belongs to him/same guy
 
@EnricoSusatyo I have access to mod tools because of my rep
 
@Laddu Of course
 
5:52 AM
Question and Answer account
MC is inviting me to Android A-Z Room now
 
@BoltClock can anyone stop them to access an account?
 
Can we like ban his IP so he can stop sock puppeting?
 
Stack Overflow has facilities for IP banning, I believe
 
@Nirav We'll think of something
No we can't manually ban IPs unfortunately, but the system has other... more devious mechanisms in place ;)
 
please do something we are feeling irritating.
 
5:55 AM
Lol I hope it is a mechanism which never lets them gain rep past 19
 
Gosh, it's a mod party in here now O_O
 
Whoops
 
Lol that is great, Enrico
 
So that means Emilliano is also one of their dummy account?
 
6:00 AM
The evidence suggests so
 
I revoked his access.
 
Hahahaha
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Q: Scroll with Selenium

Emiliano InsuaIs there any way in either Selenium 1.x or 2.x to scroll the browser window so that a particular element identified by an XPath is in view of the browser? There is a focus method in Selenium, but it does not seem to physically scroll the view in FireFox. Please suggest me..

 
By the way, they pretty much admit that they are trolling in the anti ns chat room
 
@borrrden I figured that was the whole point of that room
 
I should have used that trick (asking questions that are asked before and answering them too). My reputation would have been better :(
 
6:03 AM
Lol, do you want to make the mods angry?
 
lol
 
You will get caught in "devious mechanisms"
 
:D Just kidding
 
Hahahaha
That is one of my favourite Jeff Atwood's posts.
 
Bookmarked.
in Maharashtrian Code Warriors, 4 mins ago, by Emiliano Insua
Hi,just want to pass this message to NSchat.Hope someone passes this message to them.I dont belong to any group,from what I have researched they seem to have new accounts whereas I am here from last 6 months.It was just co-incidence that some M.C guy answered my question yesterday.
 
Whatever it is. I am going to sleep and let mods deal with this.
 
@rohan-patel Yeah. It's like afternoon here. (N.B. I'm the only mod in my timezone :( See slugster's nomination)
Good night
I wouldn't have been here if it weren't for you, so thanks for your help
 
@BoltClock : I just thought of bringing attention of mods before they do any damage or start flame war.
 
@rohan-patel Thanks again!
 
You are welcome. Appreciate you looking into it.
 
6:10 AM
Thanks BoltClock for handling this.
 
Yes, thank you!
 
Yes, in next mod election we should try to consider mods from different time zone along with their potential.
 
No problem. Let us know if he makes an appearance again (he shouldn't be able to ;)
 
Haha. If you can take care of Tom Hegan guy
 
Tim Post is also here
 
6:12 AM
Yeah... I had a bit of help
 
Woah, it's full of mods now =P
 
@BoltClock : Prime suspect today. stackoverflow.com/users/2935029/tom-hagen
 
@rohan-patel Yep
 
Ok. Mods once again thanks for looking into it. Appreciate your time.
 
user457812
Thanks, guys.
 
6:14 AM
np
By the way any idea why my iOS device slows down tremendously when connected to my Mac right after I tell Xcode to use it for development, and returns to normal once I unplug it? I haven't even run any builds on it yet
Well, it doesn't really slow down so much as the touch screen becomes far less responsive
 
What is your iOS device?
 
iPhone 5c, iOS 7.0.5
 
I've never experienced that.
 
how much free space?
 
probably because there's some debugging processes happening on the iPhone (e.g. logging / console polling / etc) that wouldn't normally happen if it wasn't plugged into Xcode.
 
6:22 AM
10 GB, I use it as my primary phone but I don't put a lot on it
 
the organizer has to be kept up to date, after all.
 
@MichaelDautermann That makes a lot of sense
 
Good point, especially if the console is open
 
I wonder if it'd make any difference if I closed the organizer
(The console is not open)
 
7.0.5 is available?
 
6:23 AM
yes it is
 
lol I should check
 
Yeah but it probably doesn't change much for, like, 80% of the world
 
for Asia specific region up to 7.0.4
 
7.0.5 only for iPhone 5s and 5c, I believe.
 
@EnricoSusatyo Yes. It says so in the update info
 
6:24 AM
Aw, I can't get 7.0.5
 
7.0.5 was released for IPhones sold in China, I believe
 
check how much application running in background... try to restart device. this may help @BoltClock
 
You are right
It says that other users won't see any benefit
 
Nirav: Application running in the background wouldn't slow iOS down.
I never close any apps in the background.
 
Nirav: 215k rep points. Don't you think he has not done that? ;-)
 
6:27 AM
:P so i wrote there it may help
 
Enrico: App in background should consume some memory. Should not it?
 
@rohan-patel Not a whole lot unless it's leaking
 
No, when iOS needs more memory it will just kill the apps in the background. Even if the app is leaking, as soon as you switch out (pressing home button) and open another app, iOS will probably kill it.
 
I think whatever debugging and logging that was going on was only there as part of initial setup. My device doesn't slow down anymore even when plugged in and viewing the console
And the console is definitely churning
 
@Zahur You got write access. Please read the rules and let me know when you're done.
 
6:29 AM
@EnricoSusatyo That's true
 
Hi Good morning
Any thing new in ios 7.0.5
 
In OS X and Windows, the way it works is when you don't have enough RAM, the OS will just offload to virtual memory. But there's no such concept as virtual memory in iOS. It's either still in memory or it's not.
This is a pretty good piece on daring fireball about this topic: daringfireball.net/2012/01/ios_multitasking
Still true for iOS 7.
A more detailed explanation for the curious minds (scroll down and read summary if you are not patient): speirs.org/blog/2012/1/2/…
 
Thanks Enrico for both the links.
 
Great reading facts.
 
I'm bored
 
6:40 AM
watch in-room movies in your hotel and bill it to your company
 
Oh look who's back
 
enrico thanks for information.
 
There is TV
It's 2 AM but I've decided to take only 4-5 hours of sleep every day. So I will go to bed at 4 AM
 
Bolt clock do drop by sometimes here when free.
 
I don't use chat too frequently but I'll try :)
 
6:46 AM
Laddu: If you are in Boston there are lot of places to visit nearby. (If you like to visit places.)
 
What are the best ways to send gifts online within India?
I don't have car :-)
 
snapdeal
 
You can use public transport. No one wants to get stuck in Boston traffic.
 
Many more rooms named Anti Bolt, Anti Michael Dautermann, Anti nil, etc may begin.
 
6:50 AM
(What do you guys see? A stream of (removed) messages or just a handful of normal messages left?)
 
Nirav: No worries.
 
No user data available
Great
 
@rohan-patel Yeah. That last avatar you see should disappear when you refresh. He came back while I wasn't looking
 
How can they remove the messages?
 
6:51 AM
Anyway killing the room now
@EnricoSusatyo They can't. I can
 
Ah ok.
 
:P
 
I see the same thing rohan is seeing.
 
Do you even get to know who flagged the post?
 
I only know that I can see who flags for mod attention with a custom message (for obvious reasons)
Don't know about regular chat flags
 
6:53 AM
Ok.
 
@rohan-patel Beautiful
 
@borrrden For what?
 
See what I replied to
 
1 hour ago, by BoltClock
@rohan-patel ಠ_ಠ
When I saw this I thought I am going to be in trouble, haha.
 
Hahaha
Ok I am leaving.
See you guys.
 
7:01 AM
Alright Enrico. Bye. See you all. I was supposed to get into bed at 12. Its 2 now.
 
7:59 AM
Whats happening? Did i missed anything funny?
@rohan ??
I apparently missed the Anti-NSChat transcript.
 
8:17 AM
A whole bunch of mods came here
And Tom Hagen lost his chat priveleges for a week
 
bunch of mods ?
I can see only BoltClock though.
 
Ok, there were only two
And only one talked
 
it does say a lot about the average SO user that by having a rating of 1079 I'm in the top 33%
 
8:57 AM
oh
I should check
Actually I don't know how
 
it's on your SO profile page
you're top 2%
 
I hate internet explorer
 
everyone else here likes it
 
and why the hell majority people here use internet explorer...
rage, do you know any way to access webcam in internet explorer and stream the frame from the webcam?
only flash?
 
flash does it for sure
I think appear.in uses flash
livejasmin.com uses flash
java can do it as well
 
9:07 AM
I see thanks rage1!
 
Seems that the vast majority are under 200
 
user457812
In the process of writing this GUI library, I decided selectors would be a nice way to find views.
 
user457812
So now it's possible to find views using stuff like !foo[class=Window] > (bar|biz|bux)![class=Button] baz > *
 
like css
or xmlpath
 
user457812
Where it's basically just tagname[keypath operator value].
 
9:15 AM
yep, that'd work
 
user457812
Similar to CSS, though not quite
 
more like xmlpath
xpath
 
user457812
The tagname, in this case, is not a tag like <foo></foo>
 
user457812
It's more like the tag you'd assign a view in AppKit.
 
user457812
So to test for a specific class, you have to do a key-value check.
 
user457812
9:18 AM
I still don't have it checking superclasses though, so I'll have to work on that
 
user457812
9:50 AM
Ok, superclasses checking added
 

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