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10:30 AM
LOL the anti NSChat guys down voted me.
 
Hahahaha
That kind of stuff gets spotted by bots
 
Burn them the heathens
 
Hahahaha
 
Jim you know my policy on this regarding the silverbacks
 
Good morning!
 
10:36 AM
morning
 
Release the rampant silverbacks
!
Im literally going to cry
had a request to turn all time to wall clock time for everything
 
I'd like to be in the situation once where I can shout outloud: "Release the silverbacks!"
what do you mean wall clock time?
 
as in the time stored is relevent to the time on the device clock no matter what timezone you are in
 
I'm not familiar with the WCT standard
ah
 
so 8am in England - 8am Australia
e.t.c.
 
10:42 AM
did we not have that discussion at the very beginning of the project?
 
or as i put it it would be like everyone in the world was stood on grenwich park observatory
you werent there at the begning of this project
heeh
and no no one has discussed this
jsut got dropped on me
 
right
this is the same problem that keeps coming back to me all the time
and it's a big pita
 
thing is if you traveled at 1/12th the circumference of the the earth per hour, you could essentially do X thing at 00:00 and time travel
 
the only good way of storing time in mobile apps is UTC + the timezone of the action
 
Well il going to suggest creating "clientName"Time which is basically GMT thats calculated no matter were you are
 
10:44 AM
then that can be represented in any way they want
 
then displaying everything in GMT
yeah that was the otehr option but if wall clock time is wall clock time picking an arbitrary timezone to clamp it too seems simpler
 
does this mean model schema and api changes throughout?
 
It means changes to every screen, model, endpoint on both iOS and Android of which need to be handled differnetly, no Date in SQLLite so i have to have the second time stamp
its a silverback sized PITA
 
I hope you size up the work and invoice it heavily
this is not the sort of change that should just fit into the original estimates/budget
 
Im just trying to get my head around the problem still
think i worked it out tbh
 
10:46 AM
this is heavy, with serious amount of testing
 
yeah exactly
i have made this clear
thing is though then there would be no way of telling elapsed time within the app
it could be very dangerous when medication is involved
 
that's why I suggest you do UTC + timezone, because you can use that for any calculation and representation later
that's the safest option
covers all bases
 
cant do a SQLLite query on timezone though
can on UTC though
but that breaks
 
yep
why?
 
I suppose i could actually make the reference search time current date in current timezone - timezone difference to UTC
that would normalize it
less data
less impact
 
10:50 AM
I just asked the graphic artist to send the image in 1600x1600px size, she came back half an hour later with an image of 1417x1417px and said that should be big enough
yes, that's correct
 
its correct, but its still wrong
im makes me sick to the bones
 
and timezone can be purely numeric [-12,12]
 
yeah
 
or rather [-11,12]
or whatever
 
+the num hours works best tbh
that way can convert irrespectively
time for a new set of static java functions and some obj-c categories
to cock up the timespace continuum
Bye bye relativity
anyway less crying more work
 
user457812
10:56 AM
@EnricoSusatyo CrunchyRoll just picked up the first season of Chunibyo in case you're watching that.
 
Yup I m watching that. Are you?
 
user457812
Not at the moment.
 
I really enjoyed the first season.
 
user457812
I'll probably try watching the first season before picking up the current episodes again
 
user457812
Assuming I manage to distract myself from my new toy project long enough to do so
 
10:57 AM
Yeah, watch the first one first.
It's quite strongly related.
 
Michael Corleone's account is suspended on SO
has a reputation of 1
and it runs in the family
 
Yeah, I think they reduced his reputation to 1.
But there are still other evil brothers of his.
And he may be creating more suck puppets too.
 
he clearly needs the silverback treatment
 
I really hope this doesn't become a long term problem. I really enjoy SO and chat.so.
 
well, what he doesn't understand is that they know his ip address
 
11:08 AM
That Sonny guy also got 1 rep now.
 
it won't take long until they reduce his home computer to a terminal server
 
Who the hell is Micheal Corleone ? Is it some Godfather reference ?
 
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I don't think it's a concern. He's a douchebag, but all douchebags have to give up their time to be douchebags.
 
yep
 
ahh
 
11:18 AM
it's a waste of otherwise perfectly useful oxygen
 
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And although I say that, they did spend like 3 hours yesterday apparently inviting me to rooms and flagging messages, even though I don't actually see the room invites
 
user457812
I guess they probably weren't aware that when I put them on ignore, their invites don't actually get sent
 
user457812
Silly little turnips.
 
another recruiter from facebook
is it suicide stating on my linkedin profile that I don't want to work at fb?
 
user457812
I doubt it.
 
user457812
11:21 AM
Facebook's dying. You really want to jump aboard an enormous, sinking corporate ship?
 
never did
I refused them once
I'll do it again
 
user457812
I think the new, hip thing to do is turn down Google because everyone finally kind of realized Google isn't what Google used to be
 
they are growing rapidly though
 
user457812
On the upside, Google ain't dying, but on the downside, you better like corporate crap and managers
 
people are recruited to Google left and right
 
user457812
11:26 AM
Meh, already 3:30am
 
user457812
I should get in bed.
 
user457812
Slowly going to sleep a little earlier and earlier each day
 
11:38 AM
@rage LOL rage
 
lol what?
 
See what I replied to.
 
ah got it
:)
 
Hahaha
I interviewed at Google once.
I went through the first phase I think.
 
well with fb they approached me directly and said I'd fit perfectly into their plans, blahblah, then I explained to them I don't even like using FB I have about 1 post per year
last one was May 2013
 
11:40 AM
Ah ok.
I think Google approached me and said I will fit perfectly.
 
that's the usual line
 
Some of my friends who interviewed at Facebook didn't have a good experience though.
 
I've heard stories from their london offices
apparently it's different if they approach you
you don't have to go through the same process as if you just applied
their iOS app is shit anyway
I'm not sure what they wanted me for
 
What do you think about the Paper thing?
I heard pretty good things about it.
 
paper?
nothing
link?
 
11:45 AM
Hang on a sec.
 
I plan to fly to NZ this year if I can and stop by Brisbane to see some friends, but I'm not sure I can fit Sydney into the plans, I'd love to see it, but time will be limited and I want to spend as much as I can travelling NZ
 
If you do drop by, I'll treat you coffee ;)
 
thanks
this paper thing looks good
might have been what they wanted me for
they asked a lot about my UI programming skills
looks like something that requires quite a few devs
 
user457812
A small portion of the internet is currently unhappy about Paper because it's using the same name as another popular app.
 
and tp
 
11:49 AM
Lol, yeah.
I think Facebook is a pretty brilliant company though.
 
the bright side is if the app is shit you can wipe your ars with it
 
At this point it's pretty self-sustaining.
 
user457812
I'm still not sure what the point of their Paper app is, though
 
I think it's a proof of concept
 
nil: I think they are trying to get back the users that they have lost along the way.
 
11:49 AM
more experimental
an attempt to redefine how people consume the feeds
 
There are a few portion of my friends who just stopped using Facebook because they don't like the content that are shared by people.
Heck, a friend of mine unfriend me because I used to share a lot of iPhone 4s rumours stories.
 
user457812
They could probably get me back if they banned every single one of my family members and friends who post political image macros.
 
It's an attempt to make people spend more time on Facebook rather than New York Times and other places.
I just hide them from my News Feed.
 
user457812
And then stopped doing lousy crap to users.
 
I must be the only person on Earth that has never open a Facebook account...
 
user457812
11:51 AM
And then basically discouraged people from posting anything political ever.
 
Lol, no Daniel, there are a few.
 
user457812
@DanielMartín You aren't, but you are going to be a minority soon.
 
yes, they only ever got to 600M
or where are they now?
 
user457812
1.23 billion according to Wikipedia.
 
wow
 
11:52 AM
And I think that's very close to total internet users in the world.
 
user457812
I want to point out, that's over 1/7 of the estimated human population.
 
yep
 
I would only give them my personal information if I could make a profit from it.
 
user457812
I don't care that much about them having my info. It's not like I'm doing anything with it.
 
Global internet usage: 2.77 Billion
 
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11:53 AM
I just dislike the atmosphere that stupid people give it.
 
1 in 2 internet user has a Facebook account.
 
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i.e., the people who don't understand that being on the internet doesn't suddenly mean you can air your horrible opinions online
 
nil: that's why I like Twitter better. I unfollow stupid people.
 
I don't use twitter either
 
user457812
I use twitter in the sense that I have random spurts of activity then ignore it for months
 
11:54 AM
maybe I should, but it just takes up too much time
 
LOL So what do you check when you wake up, rage? And how do you send photo of your family to your parents?
 
user457812
I'm really bad at focusing my attention on social things 'cause it's boring.
 
I don't
I speak to my family and friends on the phone, skype and facetime
 
user457812
I say social things but I mean social networking things
 
user457812
They're not actually social.
 
user457812
11:55 AM
I still spend a lot of time talking with friends on skype and whatnot 'cause that's how being social works.
 
we should create the first unsocial network, in which you can't mark anyone as friend
 
I prefer to reserve say 1 or 2 hours a day to keep up with personal mails, a little bit of instant messaging, etc.
 
user457812
It does not work in the "let me post a cat macro about how I hate Obama and rake in the like buttons" sense
 
This conversation is what eventually leads to the creation of path.com actually.
 
user457812
path.com pissed me off and I made them delete my account.
 
user457812
11:56 AM
Creepy bastards.
 
user457812
I also had Quora delete my account 'cause they went all creepy too.
 
The idea is to not have those stupid family members who talk politics as your friend.
(in Path).
 
user457812
I went through a process where I deleted a lot of accounts.
 
LOL what happened with you and Path?
 
he got off the beaten path
 
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11:57 AM
Path had this thing where they took your contact list and stored it on their servers without ever notifying you
 
I'm not really active in Quora. I still like Stack Overflow and other stack exchange sites better.
Oh yeah, this is an incident a few years ago.
 
user457812
And Quora did that thing where they started publicly broadcasting what you were looking at
 
I like Quora because I learn interesting things.
 
user457812
And publicly broadcasting everything I read is not something I like to do
 
Oh yeah, that is also pretty creepy.
Speaking of social networks, my tweet last night got quite viral.
@marcoarment have you seen this? Instapaper is in who wants to be a millionaire. http://i.imgur.com/auLSxMu.jpg
 
12:00 PM
The problem I see with Quora is that it is not going to be as specific as a dedicated Q&A site for a particular topic.
 
I've never had that many retweets/favourites hahaha.
 
user457812
It was kind of unfortunate 'cause there were a couple friends who got really unnecessarily concerned when I started reading about very specific topics related to cancer.
 
user457812
Which had nothing to do with my physical health in the first place.
 
Yeah... That is so creepy.
What about Reddit?
 
user457812
I don't generally use reddit, so it's a non-issue.
 
12:02 PM
I think the problem is still that the generation and consumption of content is still heavily decentralised
 
user457812
I do think it's full of some of the worst users on the internet, but at least they're over there where I don't have to see them
 
you need a plethora of services to sign up to
takes to much time to manage
 
I think there are some very smart people in Reddit, but there are also a lot of creepy people.
 
user457812
As far as services I actually use now, it's mostly limited to Google+ and Twitter.
 
user457812
And it probably won't be that long before I find a way to murder my Google account.
 
12:03 PM
But Reddit also has quite a good system in place to filter the trolls.
Has your new iPhone arrived btw?
 
user457812
Yes.
 
I tried using my friend's iPhone 4s today and yeah, it's not as good anymore.
 
user457812
I was playing Threes on it for a while.
 
You like the screen?
 
user457812
Didn't realize it was made by the same people as Puzzlejuice until after I got it.
 
12:04 PM
When I upgrade from 4 to 5, I really hated the screen at first.
 
user457812
I guess? Seems like the same screen to me.
 
user457812
The height annoys me, but there's nothing I can do about it.
 
It used to be pretty hard for me to tap the back button.
 
user457812
I just have to start hoping that people stop putting things I need to access at the top of the screen.
 
Or anything on the top left of the screen.
 
user457812
12:06 PM
If I ever make an iPhone app, I'm modifying the nav controller to put the toolbar on the bottom.
 
user457812
Screw your muscle memory, I'm saving thumbs.
 
Well I'll just make sure the iOS 7's swipe edge to pop navigation controller is working properly.
Because I use that a lot, and I hate apps that doesn't implement that properly now.
I hardly press the back button since iOS 7.
 
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Oh, that reminds me, captain creepo who was invite-spamming earlier apparently created a dummy Twitter account just to follow me
 
LOL
That is so creepy.
 
Love is in the air.......
Assumption is the mother of all screw ups
 
user457812
12:13 PM
Insert condom comment on childbirth here.
 
haha
 
user457812
Right, I need to go to sleep now
 
user457812
And by sleep I mean sit in bed and watch videos.
 
Goodnight buddy.
xkcd to conclude tonight's discussion:
 
yeah i saw that the other day, v good
 
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12:25 PM
github.com/nilium/drstringlove ⇐ My approach to passwords, by the way.
 
Okay. Mac is set up. Two 23" monitors. Now I just need keyboard/mouse/speakers that don't suck
 
yeah I know the feeling
it's two 27" here
I'm happy with the standard wired apple keyboard and a trackpad
logitech 2.1 speakers
 
12:42 PM
New Captcha
 
lol
 
i didn't feel sad, i was actually glad that it edged closer to human evolution because im a human not a brontosaurus
 
 
2 hours later…
2:49 PM
@MartinHN you have write access
 
@Dev2rights Thanks
 
np i presume you had your access revoked when there was a purge the other day
 
ok - didn't know about that
 
had you ever been here before, Martin?
 
3:04 PM
and it's okay to say "no"
 
back
What are the punishments I could give to my spouse
 
I'm sure he could think of something
 
what?
I gave him 2 punishment
 
he has been here before
 
ah okay… I was just trying to figure out if the "you had your access revoked" was spoken out of turn.
 
3:19 PM
nope just part of the mass cull
 
@MichaelDautermann Yes I've been here before, just quite a long time ago.
 
3:33 PM
well where the heck have you been?
we need to raise the level of discourse here.
 
what are you doing mike
 
just been working way too much, consulting and stuff. No time to relax.
 
My answer is the same as Martin's, Laddu.
 
I can side with this epidemic having done 14 hour day , 7 day week months for far to long now
 
ok
 
3:40 PM
Clients from hell, it just isn't worth it.
 
you worked for the Devil?
if I am to learn anything from my experience working with clients, satan has quite a few ventures in the IT industry
 
it would explain my torment
and i keep doing it again and again and again ...
They say war is hell, Programming is hell
 
bear in mind we are the modern equivalents of the guys building the piramids
we are pushing large blocks of rock while they lash our backs
that's why it's better to become a business owner
eventually you'll have slaves doing your work
 
ahh the sweet smell of capitalism
 
we believe in the one true Apple
 
3:48 PM
I also want slaves to be working for me and I will give orders
 
marry well
 
well Machiavelli would say all that will do is cause a slave uprising and your head on a pike
 
freedom to the masses, rights 2 devs
 
@Dev2rights The pay is always quite good, it always looks like a great client/project, it's a genuine guy (on the surface), it's just these screens etc. Isn't that why you do it again and again?
 
I do it again because im a digital sadist, and the pay is good
 
3:53 PM
I also want to start doing consulting jobs
Whichever pays me better
 
i luckily have only met genuine people since running out little agency
and that is luck
 
@Laddu consultancy work pays really well, but is not the easiest by far
 
why
 
think about it, if it was, then everyone would be doing it
 
@Laddu Just never settle for less regarding pay. Tight clients almost always turns out to be clients from hell.
 
3:56 PM
ok
 
And I'm still in the office now...
 
Me too
 
I'm still bored
 
Looks like it'll be another night on the office
I should buy a futon and bring it here
 
are you married to your job?
 
4:08 PM
looks like that michael
:D
 
 
2 hours later…
6:37 PM
why is everyone quiet
 
7:02 PM
probably because people are working
aren't you?
 
no
I need a mac book pro to work but I'm poor
I'm expecting some of my fans to gift me that on valentine's day
 
I know Enrico is a fan
and very generous
 
feeling irritated...:(
 
lol
i refuse to work on projects unless i get admin access
 
7:25 PM
Yay!
Submitted my app for review.
Time to poor a big glass of Rum and relax.
 
congrats
 
It's been a nightmare of a day, glad something has finally worked out alright.
 
is this a personal project?
 
Yeah, i've been working on it since Christmas.
Not a bad turn around all in all.
Spent pretty much every evening digging through config files and writing parsers.
Glad to finally have some free time to myself.
My piano was delivered on Monday so i'm looking forward to playing that now :]
 
well let us know when tis approvaed and ill give it a good review
 
7:27 PM
Haha. Thank you kindly.
Someone has already beaten me too it to be fair
But look at this and laugh
especially the iPhone screenshots ;]
 
yeah they were slammed for crap UI and UX though
 
damn straight.
 
so you will fly miles ahead
you'll have 5 stars from a certain mexicanwrestler user now too haha
 
;]
Thats my stab at a crafting guide.
won't spam you all with the rest of the screenshots
 
looks clean
more fun than what i have been doign all day
 
7:34 PM
Theres a lot of data on the other views so have tried to keep the UI simple and clear
 
been movign JSON left and right up and down all day long
 
Aye. It's been a nightmare at work for me too.
I was ready for home a 9:02
Deadline day tomorrow. Could be another nightmare so shall down tools for the evening and go play some xbox.
 
lucky sod
 
I won't feel like one tomorrow when we're getting a supreme fisting from the client for welching on deadlines.
For now though, i'm going to huddle up and try keep warm as it's feckin' nesh!
 
Rum is warming
 
7:43 PM
damn straight.
^^
ta ta for now!
 
adios
 
user457812
I could go for some food right about now.
 
Oi internet! Furnish nil with food
 
user457812
8:15 PM
Don't like that Mac OS sometimes forgets to turn on the secondary monitor when it's been asleep for a while.
 

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