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6:51 AM
It's awesome to know that some of the old folks here are still active.
 
Greetings!
 
 
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8:46 AM
\o
 
Tim
9:22 AM
\o
 
10:05 AM
o/
 
10:17 AM
I have a meeting with Podo-it today
Would be hilarious to see their parking area filled with cars that are scratched, spit on or have broken windows due to people who misunderstood the company's name
 
o/
lol
 
10:39 AM
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Feb 25 '20 at 15:16, by Nyakouai
https://imgur.com/a/G2kVrD2
 
11:17 AM
@DaveS XD
alright people, I know that working is important, but we have to revive the room :D
 
12:08 PM
sure, so fire up something :D
 
sup
 
I am currently working to get people (like literally 4) to use our app and to react to updates by opening the firebase app tester app and download/install the newest version...
they told me those guys are Neandertaler... never thought I would have to change my definition of a DAU
 
Tim
Dümmster Anzunehmender User?
 
Ja
 
12:39 PM
yoyoyoyoyoyo
 
@WarrenFaith "they told me those guys are Neanderthaler" XDDD
 
12:50 PM
Well, it is true. They told me they are overwhelmed even by the complexity of the home bottom on an iPhone... so they got an Android device instead
yeah, don't ask
 
@Tim @ballBreaker If you care, there are multiple solutions to yesterdays problem it seems. "using OTs, Garbled Circuit 2PC, Secret Sharing based 2PC" Here's how it works: crypto.stanford.edu/cs355/18sp/lec6.pdf
 
Tim
tldr
 
I was lost by "If you care"
4
 
tldr: bunch o' math
 
1:05 PM
@WarrenFaith lol
 
Imagine going to college and getting a masters degree and then writing that
 
Tim
> In recent weeks, two internet-savvy generations have been clashing in videos and comments on TikTok over the hallmarks of millennial culture that are now deemed uncool by Gen Z
how to establish credibility in your article in 1 sentence
> Emojipedia recently wrote a blog post that said: "It's common wisdom on TikTok that the laughing crying emoji is for boomers."
> "Our generation is very sarcastic," Martin said.
gee I wonder where you got it from
 
@Tim @MwBakker innit?
 
Tim
> "For Gen Z, it's like the same thing as having an Android," said Mohammed.
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who tf uses tiktok
 
Tim
1:59 PM
people with iphones
 
there's also an entire section of buzzfeed articles which is literally just a list of the top questions and answers on r/AskReddit reposted as an article
 
Ribbit
 
@Tim XD
 
the future is bright
 
2:13 PM
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@JBis they probably ran out of topics since Trump left
 
Tim
2:37 PM
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3:34 PM
8
A: android system notification limit per app

MohKAccording to @Nirel's answer. 1) I tried to run the code in 3 different devices. Surprisingly notifications beyond 50 are not showing in notification area. It gives following error. W/NotificationManager๏น• notify: id corrupted: sent 51, got back 0 The same error comes for subsequent calls. ...

this is pretty interesting
 
3:49 PM
o/
 
2021-02-24 16:40:12.886 1111-1141/? D/HwNotificationManagerService: recognize: not in china
so this is from my logcat, a huawei phone
o/
 
\o
just came back from a new meeting
 
mates go tooling sucks
also i hate docker
May 2 '17 at 12:32, by Ahmad
I love docker so much
this guy? I don't know him anymore
 
haha
 
heyo o7
 
3:55 PM
yo bb
 
here bb youtube.com/watch?v=o6rP4eEtlsI :D (Lots of spoilers for those who didn't watch it and who are willing to watch it)
 
sup guys?
haha will watch mehdi
hearing bill burr freak out is the best
 
ending my daaaaaaay
 
Tim
@grrigore finished whole concert, really nice music
 
yay
glad you liked it
 
4:10 PM
yo @Ahmad you on disco?
 
Tim
disco disco good good
anyone know this guy? :)
 
@Tim dont mess with the fookin zohan mate
 
@Tim yes
 
yeah
I maybe have finally found the right function for me
there is a company that I met today, a small IT branch related to a huge company that searches for communicative, flexible coders that are open for multiple jobs throughout the month
 
4:16 PM
communication flexible?
 
they hire mutes, retards, mwb, normal people, etc
 
Tim
corporate talk for "be on standby 24/7"
 
no they have office houres, but due to them being a small IT branch every employer gets involved in the process on more levels than just coding
 
corporate talk for "do a lot of not related to your position suff"
 
1 man 3 jobs
 
4:19 PM
apes together strong
 
@grrigore which is a good thing
they also have an IT team in Romania btw grrigore
 
what?
 
haha yeah sounds like my job
 
who are they?
 
you're a software developer but also project manager, team lead, architect, random IT guy, hot guy in the corner, etc
 
4:21 PM
@MwBakker maybe at first to learn, while you're 21 and have no personal obligations
 
@ballBreaker apes together strong
 
:D
My CIO sent me a list of forecasted licenses that we'll need for 2021 ...

CIO: hey bB can you look at this list? We have 75 licenses but they're saying that we're going to be needing more, looks like 85 licenses projected for April. What am I missing?

bB: about 10 licenses
no idea wtf he was asking lol
 
easy money
 
@Mehdi different characters, different jobs. I won't become happy solely coding 5 days a week
 
let me know what company it is on discord mwb
 
4:26 PM
@grrigore Wender feet centre. They decided to name their IT branch: "podo-it"
 
you're not happy now?
hahah so it IS a feet thing, thats funny
 
@ballBreaker I am happy now, just dealing with pressure of society that says: "you studied software, become the code monkey"
 
@MwBakker I think you didn't get the concept :D You're not asked to work on 3 different topics sequentially, you're asked to do them all at once because we're "young, dynamic, practive, take ownership of ours work, and very agile". For the 5 days coding, you're sure as hell will complete them
 
Yeah honestly MwB, those jobs are great for starting jobs as they introduce you to a lot of new things
 
4:28 PM
but you will be expected most likely to complete multiple jobs in the same time it takes to do one job
 
mwb my boy do what you feel like
don't listen to these haters haha
 
@Mehdi during the interview they said it would be sequential jobs
@ballBreaker I can speculate, or experience it. I get to "live" a workday with them next monday to see if it fits my desires in the job
 
yeah man, only one thing to do which is to do it!
 
Tim
are they paying you for this day
 
no, but I am not obligated to work either
 
4:34 PM
o/
I am fucking SWAMPED today so I will barely be around but rest assured I am continuing to try and be around more. Miss y'all. <3
Don't forget to tune in and learn about Compose in like 25 mins: twitter.com/AndroidDev/status/1364613620022272005
 
Tim
hosted by kari byron for god knows what reason
 
@MwBakker I honestly doubt that unless they have very little projects going on which would be red flag to me. Now say that it's not the case, I think it depends on your career goals, if you wanna speed up your learning you may want to stay focused on 1 job
 
it are seperated small projects, working towards expanding and/or refactoring of current software
 
what that about
that android show or whatever
 
I actually disagree with what Mehdi thinks, I think these kinds of 3-in-1 jobs are really good when you're starting your career as thy expose you to a TON of different things you otherwise won't be exposed to
 
Tim
4:39 PM
you lost me at "I actually disagree with what Mehdi thinks"
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however, as you progress, they become less fruitful
hey it's fine, mehdi thinks attack on titan is a good show
sometimes he's just wrong
;)
 
he's so wrong that even bb is right
 
@Tim hahaha
 
you are exposed to a TON of different things and get zero in-depth knowledge for ONE thing
 
@ballBreaker I stand my ground on this one XD
 
Tim
4:41 PM
jack of all trades, master of none
 
@grrigore exactly my point
 
"much and stupid and pointless" - romanian saying
 
@Mehdi yeah why would you want to start your career by pigeonholing yourself into one area?
 
because you gotta stick to something in order to find out if you like it or not
 
I'd rather hire someone who knew multiple facets of development, not just one area
 
Tim
4:43 PM
I think this can be a good thing, but only at the start of your career. Maybe you find something you like much more than android development or whatever, and you can focus on that other thing in a next job. However regardless of what you end up doing, I cannot stress enough how crucial it is that you have a mentor of some kind that will teach you the ropes of everything that you will be doing
 
will you be me mentor, tim?
 
Tim
I did not have a mentor in my first 2 years and looking back on those years it almost feels like wasted time
 
yeah, it's definitely way better the earlier in your career and the benefit falls off as you gain experience
 
Tim
I was also in a 5 in 1 job, and although I was hired for mobile development, there was one project that required us to build some website and my boss was like tim can you do it
and I was like um I guess but it will take me 20x as long because I don't know shit about web dev, and he was like oh well yea do it anyway because we have no other devs
 
@Tim I get what you mean, but development changes a lot overtime so there isn't one language to focus on with development
 
Tim
4:48 PM
think about this mwb when you are scrubbing the toilets with a toothbrush because there is no cleaning crew and you just happened to walk by as your boss was thinking about the dirty toilets
5
 
Ahahaa
The debate is real
 
Despite the hilarious hyperbolic metaphor xD my heart simply got more excited when interviews mentioned "more than just coding" and this has nothing to do with not being commited to coding, just not on a full 5 day level
 
Developed with love
 
@ballBreaker because IMHO dev is hard and competitive and you have to gain knowledge up to a certain level to have a value in the market and to have a certain foothold to learn and switch different stuff as long as you acquired the basics
 
why wouldn't you be able to do that with a multi hat role
If I'm hiring someone who has two years of experience, and one guy has only purely coded front end UI shit, VS someone who has fullstack experience, who am I going to choose?
guess it depends on the role,
option 1: Pigeonhole the guy into front-end UI development
option 2: choose guy number two as a rounded developer who can do multiple things
 
4:54 PM
2y exp: 8 months dev, 8 months HR, 8 months Techsales, you only have 8 months of exp in dev
 
lol what kind of dev role does HR and tech sales
what imaginary scenario is this
 
mwb said the role is not solely dev
 
But it's also definitly not HR
 
maybe my perception of what that means is differn than yours
 
not solely dev means they were also looking for someone willing to communicate with the customer and other devs and the medical team that delivers the informative background to get the full picture for the team and continue coding on the prior cases
 
4:56 PM
I imagined it as: project planning/management/proposals, development, testing, support, etc
yeah basically they want you to be an engineer, not just a code monkey
 
Tim
@MwBakker yes true but I mean more like your focus on a specialization within programming world. For example at one point in time I had to choose between android, iOS, and backend development. I chose android :sadface:
 
Lol
 
@ballBreaker this is exaclty what I meant except fewer roles
 
yeah, you get your hands in each piece of the pie
 
You can be a code monkey even if you're an engineer
 
4:58 PM
also yeah true lol
 
All of them
Haha
 
at least here engineers aren't considered code monkeys
but I understand that you can pigeonhole yourself into being a code monkey by following mehdi's advice
 
Aren't considered
But they might be
 
why is 14 year olds first thought after 5 days of coding, "ooo, i'm an expert and should teach a class on this"?
 
I don't know Jbis you tell us
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4:59 PM
@Tim with all the interviews I had the company mostly worked in a framework that was optimilized for themselves and required a learning curve despite my experience in C#/Android/JS and such
 
you're the expert xD
 

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