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5:00 PM
@ballBreaker I believe voter manipulation is extremely effective. Obama did it and won. Trump did it and won. Bloomberg is doing it now.
He is the only one doing it I know of. He created a new Cambridge Analytica.
 
voter manipulation how?
 
@grrigore very good :D
well I hope you guys get bernie for your sake in the global field haha I imagine it would be nice to be a respected country again
 
@ballBreaker I missed ya bb
 
5:22 PM
missed ya too griggy
 
<3
 
sups
 
@JBis I like when he admitted to buying congress members on live TV
 
everyone makes gaffs
 
I'm not sure if you know what that word means
because it doesn't make sense in that context
 
5:28 PM
hmm
 
"A stick with a hook or barbed spear, for landing large fish."
 
@Karam Welcome. Please start by reading the room rules --> room-15.github.io
 
the secondary definition is "rough treatment or criticism"
I like bernie a lot because he doesn't have to watch what he says, because he truly believes in what he's doing and it's something he's been doing his whole life. Biden is funny to watch because he's absolutely shit and clearly going senile. Bloomberg just wants to be Trump-lite
 
@codeMagic yep , I will start reading it , this is my first chat message in my first chat room in stackoverflow :)
 
@ballBreaker gaffe*
 
5:31 PM
Karam, ok, just read and follow them and you'll be fine here
Most rooms (if not all) have something posted. So just make sure to do that in any room you join for optimal experience
 
@codeMagic I will gonna do my best , thanks for your advices.
 
I hope this isn't your best because you still haven't read our room rules
 
I have read and understood the rules
 
thank you
 
thanks Karam and welcome
 
5:35 PM
My best friend's name is Karim and I call him Karin all the time, so welcome @Karam and you are know known as Karan to me
 
@ballBreaker ok, then I have to live with that.
 
@ballBreaker exactly about bernie , the man is honest with he says no matter how much disagree with him gotta respect that
@ballBreaker bloomberg is trumplite
 
yeah for sure man
An honest politician is like a once-in-a-lifetime event it seems hahha
 
hehe
 
I kind of lowkey hate Bernie just for the reason that he's sucked me into American politics which I swore I would never let happen
 
5:41 PM
lol
 
But that to me just says it all hehe
 
I like Bernie as a person but not a huge fan of his policies
 
ofcourse i mostly disagree with his policies
so if bernie is the nominee would you vote for him or not vote at all :thinking:
 
Which do you disagree with?
 
I don't agree that we should bail out student debt
 
5:45 PM
taxes, student debt, medicare
 
@ColdFusion there's at least one more option ;)
 
lol
 
eh
 
i intentionally omitted that option xD
 
you don't believe in universal healthcare ?
 
5:46 PM
No
 
I know. Just reminding everyone that they don't have to vote democrat if they don't like the options
 
haha i know
 
@trevor-e Yeah I would have to look into that one, seems.. kind of unrealistic
@ColdFusion okay
interesting
I won't push it because this is an issue I'm heavily bias on
 
i mean its kinda mixed if i take it from my country perspective we are too poor to have a UH
if i take it from american perspective then private insurances bs gets in the way
either way UH is going to be like biting the bullet
 
@RaghavSood, @DaveS, @ColdFusion, @Tim, @Mauker, @Pochmurnik, @CptEric This is your weekly reminder of New Free Games on Epic Store!!!! :D
 
5:49 PM
also the non sense waiting times after you get a UH is kinda annoying
 
yeah I think the point of UH is to abolish private insurance, and take the money you would otherwise put into private healthcare into public instead
 
maybe something better option is there?
 
I'm not really sure what wait times you're referring to
I've never waited long for anything
 
i have read in the news there is sometimes long waiting time in UK
what was the longest?
 
I think 3 weeks for an MRI for something that was non life threatening
 
5:51 PM
That's what I thought I've heard too. And in Canada, as well
 
what about cough/cold?
 
same day
 
hmm
 
go to a clinic and be seen, if you go to a hospital everything is same day
including MRI
 
@ballBreaker but in america many people have private insurances and they have paid monies
 
5:52 PM
You must be on the premium plan
 
what about their monies?
 
thanks god . I thought you guys will gonna talk about Android :), thats great here we are able to talk about politic and every other things we want.
 
haha yeah the premium universal plan :D
 
lmao karam
 
lol
 
5:52 PM
(that everyone gets)
 
karam, read the top ;)
> Sometimes we even talk about Android.
 
@ColdFusion as far as I know you pay into those monthly
 
honestly the student debt problem is fucked up problem
 
so you would just.. pay the government instead
 
@codeMagic I have read it, and didnot quit belive it :)
 
5:53 PM
haha
 
US is a fucked up problem, FTFY
2
 
but i am asking about those who have already invested monies
is the gov going to return it?
 
oh like invested into insurance companies?
 
lmao taseer
no into insurance
private ones the ones those who already have'
 
student debt is a problem for sure, but I don't think we should get involved with the bad mistakes that individuals made
 
5:54 PM
@ColdFusion That's what I don't understand, it's my understanding they just pay premiums
like on any other insurance
 
like I have plenty of friends that went to community college and then transferred to a bigger uni on scholarship and graduated debt free
 
maybe CF means retirement plans, etc?
 
so seems unfair to them
 
but isn't the school fees too high part of the problem?
 
they are high because people are willing to pay for them
 
5:55 PM
if you have such high fees obviously student are gonna pile in debt
 
@trevor-e To me they got lucky and doesn't mean everyone else shoudl suffer
 
i think you're missing a step there though, you don't "ban" insurance companies. you just deprecate them.
 
it's not luck, they made smart decisions
 
Yeah but shouldn't the system itself be fixed
 
But not everyone can get scholarships
 
5:56 PM
@ballBreaker yes but since they already paid for it, what if they want to pay additional to the government?
 
going to a private 50k a year college to become a teacher is just a bad decision IMO
 
There's no reason for schooling to be as expensive as it is, regardless of their decision and whether it was smart or not
 
in here we pay yearly for insurance
 
CF, you can still have your private insurance
 
I'm against it too. Just saying though that not everyone has the same opportunities
 
5:56 PM
Retroactively going back and paying those people out, that's different in my mind.. but going forward at least
 
but it will be always on top of the UH
 
bernie plans abolishes private insurance
 
it doesn't, it just overrides it
 
If we changed to UH, there would still be private insurance at least for awhile as an option
 
since we are talking about his plan so
 
5:57 PM
probably forever
 
Yeah I imagine it would be phased out, nothing is ever instantaneous in government
 
@ColdFusion where you from?
 
in every country with UH there are private insurances that offer additional services
 
It would take years just for the system to switch
 
@CptEric oh common he basically said it himself that private would go
 
5:58 PM
haha it would go in the end CF
 
bB, I don't think so
 
If you get the same amount of care for less money, insurance would have to compete with the government who is getting paid in taxes, so over time the insurance companies would fail
 
excuse me, I am syrian that's why my questions could be stupid for you as americans . Is UH am important toipic, wich could play a major role in next american election?
 
At least for the majority of people
 
By the time he was able to start accomplishing that, we'd have a change at the helm who would not let it happen
 
5:59 PM
If you're rich you can still get privatized, it's a no-lose situation for anyone imo
 
@Karam syrian? your profile says germany
 
@JBis living in germany from syria
 
@Karam yup
 
@JBis living in germany since 5 years
 
Karam, it's discussed every election
 
6:00 PM
USA has been struggling to get a decent healthcare system since forever
forever = 1918 onwards
 
yeah it's been quite a while now, since like the 80s?
 
nah, since WW1
 
damn
sucks to suck
 
sucks true
 
@Karam don't worry...there's no stupid questions about a culture you don't know anything about. So don't ever feel bad about asking
 
6:00 PM
@codeMagic our media talks about wall bitween US and Mexico, and other likely topics
 
and they spend the highest of healthcare xD
 
Unless, CF asks it...then it's probably a stupid question
 
@CptEric ops
 
@codeMagic says cM
 
I have thought that Obama have solved this problem
 
6:01 PM
Karam, The wall has been a topic for a long time, as well. Maybe more so this time around. But healthcare always is too
 
obama just put bracketed limits on costs
like a band aid on a broken leg
 
sorry but coz of my German langauge I am using the perfect tense often this days :)
 
the issue is medical companies and insurance companies get to negotiate directly with the patient, so they are the ones dictating the price
 
someone posted a funny meme the other day saying how crazy it would be to propose school buses nowadays
 
in europe, atleast spain, france, and germany, the government negotiates those prices. "or else".
 
6:03 PM
"you want ME to pay for YOUR kid to get to school???"
 
lol
 
hey i support free education till 12th or whatever equivalent of that for US
high school maybe
 
end of high school is 12 yes
For those who make it that far
 
so to answer your question CF, bernie's plan step 1 is basically to create a national insurance company that provides all the services others do, paid directly by taxes, and enforce non-private medical centers to not prioritize patients based on insurance plan, and private ones to accept those patients.
 
6:07 PM
I just love how the common misconception I see a lot is, WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THIS, when they see a medical bill of $100,000 for a simple operation.. but then looking at the details it's like damn, no, a regular medicine does not cost $10,000 in the real world haha
The price fuckery of medicine and all the associated costs is so bloody rampant
 
step 2 is create a medical supplies regulation company that acts as negotiator between medical centers, pharmacies, etc and medical companies to limit prices
 
yea tbh the crazy medical prices should be fixed regardless of what we do
 
yup
 
like how someone gets charged 300$ for a bottle of aspirin
 
@ballBreaker yes and that's the problem
 
6:09 PM
basically everything is US prices are fucked
from college to medicine
@trevor-e holy fuck
 
Not everything
 
Yes, but how is that going to be done without a fundamental switch
 
i somehow expect you to have to tip pharmacists at this point
 
There are relatively cheap schools
It's the major ones that fuck you
 
@CptEric >.< otherwise you'll get bad "service" next time
 
6:10 PM
btw is the news true that us asked monies from people they evacuated from china?
is this seriously true?
 
Staying with the same system and voting in the same politicians who say the same things the last guy said, it's just going to get worse
 
@codeMagic are they good tho?
 
They're all corporate shills and don't give a fuck about the american people
 
spain's solution is fairly the best i've seen so far
 
that is why they voted for change when they voted obama
 
6:10 PM
only thing i'm proud of my country
 
if what i read is correct
 
Apparently it costs ~3k USD to get tested for coronavirus
so why would anyone even get tested
 
@ColdFusion Yeah. Most of them, good or bad, result in you get out what you put in
 
lmao
 
laughs in pandemic
 
6:11 PM
laughs in UH
 
I went to a community college for both of my A.S. and doing ok
My math there was actually more advanced than at the major college for my B.S.
@ColdFusion
 
also depends on location i guess
 
hmm
i did my schooling in what an american cant buy a dinner so i am not complaining
 
if you live in penn you're either forced to go to upenn inside the city where a year of CS is 100K or have to commute 2-3h to penn state where it's 20K...
 
yeah I heard Ivy leagues you're obviously screwed for money, and depending on the degree as well
but for the same education it's like $20k/year CAD vs $100k/year USD (for medical school specifically, from the numberrs I've seen from people applying)
lol
 
6:14 PM
xD
 
are this numers real ?
 
yes
numbers*
 
yeah, i got a flyer when i went there and it was like "wtf, that's what a house costs in my hometown"
 
crabs is a real canadian
 
calm down I not earning that much as developer in Germany
 
6:16 PM
everybody is calm here man
 
@ColdFusion I have to calm down after reading this numbers XD
 
android?
 
@ColdFusion android and embedded systems
 
cool
@Karam xD
BTW is syria recovering now? or still in civil war?
what is the situation there?
 
@ColdFusion the situation is really suck
 
6:18 PM
o/ all
 
Ah, makes sense @Karam
 
Turkey and Russia are almost fighting now
 
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and America is intrested in Oil nothing else
 
hmm ok predictable then
 
6:20 PM
as long as America is able to steal the Syrian Oil it will not fight against Alassad
and in the smae time Russia control of Alassad , Turkey is intrested of north of syria
 
Syria is not a major producer of oil, even without a civil war.
 
@CarlAnderson before the war we were producing around 400K daily
 
yeah i was going to ask does syria has oil?
because i kinda never heard they did xD
 
> Syria is a relatively small oil producer, that accounted for just 0.5% of the global production in 2010
 
@ColdFusion not that much , but enough to be stealed XD
 
6:22 PM
@Karam us uses 20.5 million a day
 
@Karam Hmm probably not worth fighting a war over?
 
@DaveS I know that, in the same time u can see where american solider exist in Syria and why , even Trump announced it, he wants to get the oil to pay for military existance in Syria
@ColdFusion America is not fighting , and didn't lose any soldair in Syria
 
hmm
 
@Karam I'm sorry but this comes across as paranoia to me.
 
To me it would be more likely (if we're saying it's oil-related) that they aren't going to war to specifically steal their oil but to appease the Saudi's
who they would be in direct competition with
 
6:27 PM
@ballBreaker that's could be true, Saudia and Isreal are afrid of Iran
 
ok that sounds possible
 
I think the US went to Syria in the first place to challenge Russia's power with it's pro-Assad stance and to help fight ISIS because it threatened oil elsewhere
 
in the end of the day I really hate Alassad, Putin, Erdogan, Trump
 
yeah Trump sucks
 
i watched a video that explained how US became a saudi ally (kinda oxymoron allies) but whatever
@Karam send those oils we are kinda in short here and needs moar
 
6:29 PM
@DaveS they have agreements, Russia is not able to go in Syria without a green light from America, and Americe didnot want to involve in big war because of a small country wich doesnot have much oil.
@ColdFusion XD
 
@Karam wait saudis and israel on same page?
 
"agreements" Russia had an agreement with Ukraine until it just took the crimean penninsula
 
@ColdFusion since the both aginst Iran the are now kind of allies
 
hmm
 
the biggst loser are the poor civilians which wants to live in free and democrate country and protest against Alassad in 2011
they regret it (I am one of them )
 
6:32 PM
ok isnt he assad?
or alassad?
 
al-assad
 
@ColdFusion Al in arabice means the
 
ohh i see , the twist
 
ok guys , was great to know all of you. I have done my work today and have to go to home
was great work today hahaha
 
Come back again when you need distracting from Android :)
 
6:34 PM
@codeMagic hahaha Sure
 
cya
 
6:59 PM
...
 
..
 
Damn can't send an empty space. Even with an edit
 
I've done zero work since lunch and I don't see it getting any better any time soon
 
7:05 PM
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@codeMagic hehe lost the momentum!
 
@DaveS we're done Dave.
 
I should probably eat lunch at some point as well...
 
I did. Well, and I'm at a place with this optimization that I'm stuck on and really don't feel like trying to think about how to do it, atm
lol, Carl
 
͘
 
7:06 PM
Get absolutely rekt everyone
 
well done bb
 
quit trying to make punctuation happen, Dave
 
I was sending single zalgoed whitespace not punctuation carl
 
there's a unicode character for blank space, cmon programmers
 
I tried like 6 of them bb
 
7:07 PM
lol
 
 
you want U+2800
clearly you guys don't have
bookmarked
 
ah braille pattern blank
 
‎I'm jk about that website I don't know if it works, lmao was a google result
 
7:09 PM
 
It's nice to know that blind people can read braille through a monitor
 
lol
 
⠠⠙⠕⠑⠎⠀⠮⠀⠉⠕⠇⠳⠗⠀⠕⠗⠁⠝⠛⠑⠀⠎⠍⠑⠇⠇⠀⠇⠀⠕⠗⠁⠝⠛⠑⠎⠦
can't wait for the answer from the blind folk in here
 
I imagine people who write books for the blind want a digital way to print it
 
Yeah that's definitely it
my question was
"does the colour orange smell like oranges?"
 
7:21 PM
If it's an orange sucker, yes
 
sometimes though that's tangerine or mango
 
sometimes your face is tangerine or mango
 
sometimes
 
don't insinuate that my name is Trump, that's crossing a line
 
@codeMagic good point good point
 
7:23 PM
:D
 
A UTF char code a day, makes the...idk what to rhyme it with
 
7:43 PM
@codeMagic @DaveS here's a really good article on bloomberg brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/11/25/…
 
he's just another republican billionaire pretending to be a centrist democrat
 
He literally said he bought out congress members on live TV I don't really know what else to say about him haha
 
@ballBreaker he corrected himself and everyone has gaffes, jesus
@DaveS theres no way you read that article in 2 min
 
he corrected himself and said what?
 
I'm not trying to get you to support him, I was just saying that I support what did regarding education.
watch the clip:
 
7:49 PM
I don't, I don't think private charter schools are good
 
he gave them gift for some conpensation?
 
They are just upper class parachutes so they can avoid paying taxes to fix public education
AZ has a huge problem with for-profit charter schools
children going to school shouldn't be a mechanism for capitalistic profiteering
 
@DaveS Did you read the article?
 
yes
 
ok, did you watch the debate? He said charter schools aren't for everywhere. And I am not talking about that part.
 
7:54 PM
No I already voted for Bernie and will be supporting him throughout the election. Bloomberg is slimy, hypocritical and I don't support his policies. Stop and Frisk was Racist and the Senate being under Republican control under Trump's first two years could arguably be attributed to his funding a Republican Senator
I don't think anything about education should be privatized
 
sigh
 
> There were also less encouraging trends. In an increasingly competitive marketplace, some schools wound up with high concentrations of needy students, deepening segregation. The creation of new gifted programs and selective high schools also introduced inequities. And Bloomberg’s social promotion ban got rolled back after it became clear that being held back repeatedly was harming some students.
 
thats not what i was getting at but whatever
 
I don't have time for politics every day, sorry man
 
Ik. I was referring to him making teachers paid based on merit.
 
7:56 PM
Yeah that article was a little weird, by the end I couldn't tell if he did a good or a bad thing with the schools lol
 
@ballBreaker thats the point
i sent the link because i felt it was accurate and not one sided
 
the fact that 66% graduation rate is an all time high kind of says everything I need to know about the state of education there
 
almost no government job has merit based pay
it's all role based with time served
 
@ballBreaker ny has some of the best schools in the country, it tells you more about our countries education system or lack there of
@DaveS thats not true
 
the issue with merit based pay is it will discourage teachers to work at underserved communities who need them most
 
7:59 PM
Ohhhh, more arguing, sweeeeet
Obama destroyed healthcare
 
because the graduation rates and test scores will be lower in poor communities
 
laughs in over 80% graduation rate
 
the schools will have less funds
you should read about Norway's education system JBis
 

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