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10:00 AM
and it's built on top of Firebase as ICE server
 
No, it's the right thing to do if you can help it
Why do you need an ICE server? Or do you mean just "the server making connections between peers"?
 
making connections
 
(ICE is what WebRTC uses to get around NAT issues)
Cool :) we do it in Node.js
 
For connections I need silent device-to-device push, and it's in Node.js (FB Cloud Functions)
 
Do people in here clean up resources for fragments which are no longer visible? Like set variables to null until it's opened again?
 
10:02 AM
only listeners
like broadcastreceivers, eventbus
 
I don't care about memory xD
Life is to short to care about it
 
@TimCastelijns onClickListeners as well?
@TimCastelijns do you use a ContentProvider with Realm?
 
no, only listeners for external events
no I have never used a contentprovider
 
@MarkO'Sullivan you must be leaking memory then
@MarkO'Sullivan yup what tim said
otherwise no cleanup needed
 
in onStop()?
 
10:15 AM
I have a custom onBecameInvisible
has anyone here used swagger
 
user443346
I've got swagger but never used it
 
user443346
Tbh, I never heard of it untill I searched for it 20 secs ago
 
<_<
> Swagger: World's Most Popular API Framework
nobody knows about the worlds most popular framework?
 
user443346
Apparently
 
10:26 AM
@ColdFire XD
 
I'm pretty sure our old iOS dev wanted to use it
 
@MarkO'Sullivan paperclips
 
@MarkO'Sullivan nice
shows what worlds most popular framework means :/
 
stop generating paperclips to your hash account using their devices and a hidden webview and ram usage will drop
the hell is swagger?
 
10:30 AM
6 mins ago, by Cold Fire
> Swagger: World's Most Popular API Framework
 
that world must be mars then.
 
lol or zsh whatever
 
@CptEric :D I don't think I played it yesterday
 
> You earn 169.019 million larvae per second. (×2.96M bonus)
 
> your cats are farming 19.09 units of catnip per second
 
10:32 AM
* your cats are farming 19.09 units of catshit per second
fixed
 
ftfy
 
catnip bro :7
 
eric what is the situation about your indy ref?
 
cf if larvae speed is in millions ,then what is the speed of meat ?
 
10:33 AM
I still got a SQLite db in my app, need to get rid of that shit
 
redman too difficult to count idk
mark you disappointed tim
> You earn 2.31068 septendecillion meat per second.
go figure how much a septendecillion is
 
I disappoint myself
I just have so much other stuff to do I never go back and refactor old code
 
@ColdFire regional gov. has until friday to say wether we've declared or not independence ( we've not, obviously), first 2 political prisoners of the moderj EU are currently on prison for organizing demonstrations against policial abuse, and the world keeps spinning
 
the situation doesnt look so good
 
the regional gov is preparing a real declaration if the spanish gov pushes forward article 155 ( take control of regional orgnizations and public companies )
 
10:37 AM
septendecillion -> 10 power 54
 
@RaghavSood what exchanges do you use?
 
> a cardinal number represented in the U.S. by 1 followed by 54 zeros, and in Great Britain by 1 followed by 102 zeros.
 
Bitfinex, Bittrex, Polo, Liqui, Binance
I may move off Bittrex though, they've been banning people recently for odd reasons
Only have 1k in it, but I'd prefer to keep that 1k
 
Yeah I've heard that, I've heard good things about Binance
If you're wanting to do that portfolio app, would the best approach be to test out their APIs first and then build from there?
 
I've already used their APIs
 
10:43 AM
nice
 
If you're really up to help, it would be awesome if you could work on frontend
 
To view the existing prices?
yeah i'm free this weekend
 
I'd prefer to do backend myself since I'm familiar with the exchanges, and I have a decent idea of the flow needed
Once the base backend is place it should be easy to add in new exchanges and coins
I started work on it last weekend for a bit
 
Okay that's cool, are you wanting mock ups first?
 
Planning to continue this weekend
How about by Saturday I put up a mock API which you can get data/responses from and wrap a frontend around while I wrap up the rest?
 
10:45 AM
Could you do it for Friday night?
I might be able to start then
 
Sure, I'll get it done today
It's a holiday in Singapore
 
okay awesome
 
Guys, what are you going to do?
 
cry
 
Mark, you wanna to Web or Android or iOS or invade Spain?
 
10:55 AM
invade plz
 
Okay, eric will take care of Spain
Mark, you have three choices
 
Android :D
 
SOMETHING'S THERE
 
@RaghavSood have you looked into Flutter?
 
THAT WASNT THERE BEFORE
 
10:57 AM
o/
sup Eric?
 
@MarkO'Sullivan I have now, looks decent enough
You wanna use it?
 
sup cyg
 
Tempted to test it out because I haven't used it before
 
Your call
Anyone here wanna do web?
I do eventually plan on monitizing this, happy to split with those involved
40% backend 30% mobile 30% web split
 
what are you guys doing?
 
11:00 AM
15% for iOS 15% for Android?
 
If you use Flutter it looks like you can bag 30% :P
Building a crypto portfolio tracker
 
I hardly want to work on it, but this damn project takes all my time =(
But still, I have 50% here
 
Fair warning though, monetizing this may not pan out in the long run
You could end up with $$$ or .000000$
You will also be paid in crypto, if we get to that point
 
web isn't essential at the start :D
 
why need money when we can have raghav's protection from when AI takes over the world?
 
11:03 AM
I dunno, I kinda prefer having a web tracker, but either way
We can find someone else for web
 
Anyway I'm just wanting to do a project, if it makes money, that's cool
 
You should made Telegram bot for exchanging
just an idea
 
Messenger bot would be better, more users using Facebook
 
I'll be available starting Dec 15, currently busy with an app for the TechCrunch startup alley
 
@DimaRostopira Been there, done that, people don't trust random bots with exchange access :P
 
11:04 AM
You are forgeting about people, who use crypto-coins for illegal purposes
 
looks into mirror
Am I, Dima?
 
XD
 
So... Flutter, Mark?
 
Possibly
 
drug dealers use telegram
in Ukraine at least
 
11:04 AM
I can't commit to something without using it
 
how do you know that Dima? ( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
 
What's the minimum amount of stuff we need before you'd want to release? Just coin price tracking on 1 exchange?
 
Bought gramm few months ago xD
 
I'll set up a git org, you can pick whatever you like, I don't really care as long as I don't have to do the front end :P
Oh, dear lord, no
At least 3-5 major exchanges and top 10 coins
No one will use a portfolio tracker that can't track portfolios
But all that should be transparent to the app
 
what exactly do you want to track?
 
11:09 AM
Coins, prices, movements
 
market movement?
what about the portfolios? like users signup, set their public addresses and they'll comprise their portfolio (whose value is also tracked)?
 
Kinda
Currently, the best one is blockfolio
You enter how much of which coin you hold, and which exchange you want the prices from
And it'll monitor
But you have to update it manually for every trade
Which is tiresome
 
exactly
 
Almost all these exchanges offer APIs
Wallets are also largely public
What I want is an app where a user can give read only API keys
And it'll automatically sync trades
And they can also add their own wallet addresses for coins outside the exchange
And the app will track them and automatically detect incoming/outgoing transactions
 
crypto stuff
i like it
 
11:14 AM
The app will also not have a traditional sign up and authentication
So it's all anonymous
That is, you aren't linking your identity to your crypto by using it
 
Blockfolio is so flawed that making a good alternative shouldn't be that hard
 
Mark, have you ever created a Bitcoin wallet?
 
As a user
 
What's the point of backend then?
 
11:20 AM
Rag, do you anything about Coin Toolbox/Cointrack?
 
Mobile app can access all apis and merge data locally
 
yay gonna transfer money in btc wallet
soon i will have some btc
 
@DimaRostopira Tracking when the app isn't open for alerts/charts/daily gain or loss, etc
 
@MarkO'Sullivan joining the cool crypto club soon \o/
 
ah, that's makes sense
 
11:21 AM
Fucking bitfinex missed by buy for 0.5 btc by $2 -.-
 
great idea
 
@cygery Briefly
 
@ColdFire about time! You only been talking about joining for a year :p (also I take no blame in you becoming addicted and losing all your money)
 
you guys can then ping me for free russian/ukrainian localization
 
@MarkO'Sullivan lol not about a year tho
 
11:22 AM
Thanks Dima
I joke :D @ColdFire
 
i have been serious for about a month or so
@MarkO'Sullivan meh i am only investing 10k INR that is like pennies
wont even look twice if i lose it all
 
#richboi
 
says the guy with a luxury house
 
zsh
3 room apt :(
 
well i am saving for last 3 years for a apartment
 
11:24 AM
Damn, even Tim is loaded
What am I doing with my life?
 
still not when i will get it :(
fucking costly houses here
 
It's India, so probably by the time you have grandkids
 
its amsterdam 2.0
 
Assuming you go and buy it right now
 
zsh raghav
 
11:25 AM
First, the builder will argue and say you haven't paid enough until you bribe them
Then someone will sue them, so the court will seal the project
That'll last for a decade or so
Then, there'll be a new CM, who will unseal it after the builder bribes them
Then, you'll have to pay the builder more since they need money to complete the project after all the delays
 
wait you forget that the builder will be bankrupt and project will never complete
 
Then, after some time, the government will want more money, so they will charge the builder more bribes
The builder will then be bankrupt
Government will take over the land and project
They'll sell it in a scam to a builder that's the cousin of the governor
Then, that builder will claim they lost your deed papers, so you have to go to court to prove you bought the house
So on and so forth
 
i will then sue the government it will take years and probably i will be dead by the time the case is closed
 
CF how many mutagen
 
So yeah, grandkids
@Maurize Welcome! Please read, confirm reading, and follow the room rules before you do anything else: room-15.github.io
 
11:28 AM
4.69M TIM
 
@MahmudulHaqueKhan Access revoked for leaving without talking. Try again after a minimum of 24 hours from this message
 
@TimCastelijns and that is bad for you , you are only 2 people 3 BHK sounds about perfect
 
Wait there are two Tims?
Why are there two Tims?
 
Only one for me <3
When would you use different return types in callback interfaces?
Trying to think of a scenario
 
When I want to confuse Mark
 
11:46 AM
@MarkO'Sullivan well there are cases
mostly people do it in libs
 
what do you mean
 
i mean what more do you need than a 3BHK?
 
I just can't think where you'd need to return an int / string in a callback when they're used to trigger after an event has happened
 
for getting a row house here i will have to sell my organs
 
sometimes information is tied to the event
 
11:50 AM
Oh, I guess you could use it to pass back something to the whatever has triggered the callback event
Like a user token maybe
just seems like a big spaghetti mess doing that though
 
plus I am terrible at naming callbacks :D
 
lol
 
if you have an async operation to get some data, what do you do?
 
@MarkO'Sullivan callback are not only for events
 
11:52 AM
I like the way Fuel library provide callback
 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------^
 
callback returns Result
 
same thing i did in my library dima
my class in not called result
 
and then if (result is Result.Success) { result.data } else { result.error }
 
its probably called response
 
11:53 AM
maybe
kotlin smart cast just does thing here
 
> You earn 185.921 million larvae per second. (×3.26M bonus)
 
and Google Task class for more complex events handling
 
6,444 larvae per second
cf yours is like google chrome and mine is internet explorer
 
zsh
lol people must be wondering wtf is this zsh
 

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