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11:02 AM
morgen!
 
o/
 
11:17 AM
~o~
 
/me ordering chinese
looking forward to this evening
 
bwahahaha
 
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Glitch what is the style of that guy wearing those strange clothes, complaining?
 
Umm, maybe fuckwitcore?
 
I want some chinese food now as well.
 
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11:30 AM
Guys, how do you call people that think you are an attention vampire?
 
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actually I really like that style
 
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it is called goth ninja
 
It looks stupid.
 
+1
 
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it looks really cool actually
 
11:33 AM
-1
 
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Wearing your pants around your knees is not cool
 
i'm calculator, lol
that girl is cool and has nothing to do with that guy above
 
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Outside a fashion shoot they'd look really silly
 
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11:35 AM
Hm, you know why? Cause I think you listen to what is modern in the society. If everybody is wearing that, than it would be socially acceptable
 
If everyone was wearing that, they're not being practical
 
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In the future for example. I can tell you, here we have Carnival, so for 3 days in the spring everyone goes out dressed like in halloween and it is so cool.
 
You have to factor in climate
 
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yeah, I live in Belgium dude, here it rains and it is cold most of the time
 
wow. that looks just ridiculous.
 
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11:37 AM
Of course I am not going to wear that if it is 35-40 degrees.
 
Also, those two examples suggests that these people don't talk often
And don't have sinus issues obstructing their nose
 
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this guy is also following that fashion and looks quite normal I guess
 
that is nowhere near the others
 
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11:39 AM
that's some entirely different thing
 
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This one too is considered goth ninja and is still different. Just toned down.
 
They're wearing monotone colours. That's about the only similarity.
 
"toned down"
 
what's the proper answer from that guy when someone asks why do you wear glowes?
 
lol
 
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11:39 AM
To be able to parcour outside of the building :D
 
A: I feel purdy
2
 
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What does purdy mean?
 
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!!define purdy
 
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!!urban purdy
 
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it doesn't work
 
11:40 AM
what doesn't work?
 
cos when I wear bicycle helmet and bicycle glowes in supermarket - no one suprized, and there's my bike parked outside
 
I'm surprised you know we have a bot, for a new user...
 
You mean the Androidbot? How do you know we have an android bot?
Hmm, zigi zigi's alter ego?
 
@DenRimus It's common enough
 
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Lounge C++?
 
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11:41 AM
they have that
 
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@zigi, here?
 
yes, that's what I'm saying. But when I'm like ordinary man in such gloves... not cool, i think
 
^
 
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I agree
 
11:42 AM
lolololol
You can stop pretending now
 
eh. I wanted to work a little at weekend... and I still do... but I don't want to
 
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How so @DenRimus?
 
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@Glitch What is purdy, cute?
 
Purdy = pretty
 
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So guys why did not anyone explain to me why people think other people are attention vamipers?
 
11:46 AM
*help vampires
They're people who constantly demand help, don't try to solve it themselves, and never contribute back
 
I guess I'm tired of this spaghetti-oriented shitcode... btw, I told about current project before, for German Polizei... it appears it's available on market, lol. You can see actual polizei's schedule etc
 
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No, no, not help vampires, ATTENTION, like stealing the attention from others
 
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Haha I think that is fantastic!
 
if anybody downloads, don't ever tick schicht-something checkbox on screen with schicht naming
 
spaghetti-oriented shitcode. lolol
 
11:48 AM
it really is so (
 
Are you mocking our lord and saviour the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
 
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Haha shitcode :D
 
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He is the best monster ever!
 
on one page there were buttons to be pressed and two states - selected/unselected for each. Do you know how the author checked if button was selected?
> Are you mocking our lord and saviour the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
no, it's his enemy, that somehow managed to get out from underground prison and now does bad things to world's programming
 
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So guys what do you think about the Germany - Argenitna match?
 
11:52 AM
It's so sad, I won't be in germany when germany wins the world cup.
 
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Where are you going?
 
Cause that's what's going to happen, right @Emmanuel?
 
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Haha, are you trying to anger him?
 
/got stuff to do
 
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Good luck!
 
12:01 PM
there's what you can find in that police application ))
https://gist.github.com/Den-Rimus/e96a605c0d18f9549522
cool, isn't it?
 
o.0
lol
 
and that's still ok - easy to understand and it works
 
I usually write ugly code when I just have to get a somehow working example
and rewrite everything later on
 
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Ahmad, I think your approach is good but it might be better if you learn to style and write usable code on the spot.
 
@user3774526 Rejected for default username
 
1:07 PM
 
2:00 PM
Shit.
I came out onto the balcony to do some work and spent the last 10 minutes reading chat backlog.
 
:D
 
x_x
 
Might try to finish infamous today.
 
finish infamous?
 
lol
 
someone got some cool new music? I think I'm listening Lindsey Stirling too much
 
Whoa wtf
I just got an invite to join a room
That's never happened before
> Quoc Nguyen has invited you to join Java and Android era . See your invitations.
 
Don't go.
 
lol
 
2:07 PM
Java and Android era is a terrible place.
DON'T LEAVE US ADAM!
 
Hah I had a look.
NOPE.
 
@QuocNguyen Rejected for inviting users to other chats.
 
0.o
 
darpa...
always doing their best to improve the ability of humans to kill each other
 
2:17 PM
sometimes they create robots that can do the killing so humans don't have to
 
yeah, it's way more convenient if you don't need to kill the people yourself
all that bad PR and stuff with the PTSD and everything
anyway, I guess it's inevitable
We were talking about the crazy weapons experiments they did in WW2 at work
Bat bombs were an experimental World War II weapon developed by the United States. The bomb consisted of a bomb-shaped casing with numerous compartments, each containing a Mexican Free-tailed Bat with a small timed incendiary bomb attached. Dropped from a bomber at dawn, the casings would deploy a parachute in mid-flight and open to release the bats which would then roost in eaves and attics. The incendiaries would start fires in inaccessible places in the largely wood and paper construction of the Japanese cities that were the weapon's intended target. Overview The Bat Bomb was origin...
 
heh
 
Anyone got any experience building a glossary? I'm trying to work through building one for our rewrite and wondering if there was a nice way to do it.
It's basically looking like this atm:- ~~Users~~ -> Collaborators
That's markdown, so strikethrough on Users, replaced with Collaborators
 
A glossary?
 
Yeah, terms that should be used. Our current app uses "Deficiencies" in some places and "Logs" in others, to mean the same thing.
So perhaps not a glossary but rather a list of terms?
Actually this is probably the closest thing we have to a style guide for in-app text.
 
2:29 PM
is this for the code, or the end users?
and either way I don't think there would be much of a trick to it. Pick through the provided text, find the words that appear over and over, and have meanings somewhat specific to the context of your app write them down
then go back through them and add definitions
 
For the developers, to ensure a consistent experience for the end users - and for future developers, so they don't have to deal with varying terms for the same object.
 
that big text hurts my face
 
Interesting, that suggests that "Log in" might be more appropriate for a business type application, where as "Sign in" might be better for more casual uses.
Sure, but the original link is down
Actually that probably looks exactly like the original haha. So, er, sorry.
 
it has some kind of weird light shadow around it
and I wouldn't read so much into choice of log vs. sign personally
 
I like all lowercase
it's sleek and apathetic
 
2:36 PM
Sure, but everything we can do to reduce mental stumbling blocks for our users is a good thing. Trying to make things as clear as possible. Need to consider the "Sign up" text too.
 
I hope your users aren't stumbling on the difference between sign in and sign up
pretty sure everyone knows what a registration/login form is these days
 
as long as you keep it consistent within your app I don't think it makes a difference
 
yeah
 
I would venture to guess even on all of those services listed it came down to one day the dude writing that section had to put something there and just picked first thing that came to mind
 
or they spent weeks deciding, and all came up with different arbitrary solutions
 
2:39 PM
and wasted hundreds of man hours
 
Ours is the very first smartphone app many of our users have ever used.
 
have they used the internet?
 
may I ask what the app is?
 
ah, interesting
 
2:41 PM
clicking on the main image leads here
which returns a 404
 
Ah wonderful.
 
=x
 
is it for any/all construction guys? or just umm "reviewer" type guys?
 
the app is beautiful
I like the design
 
2:42 PM
^
 
clicking the free trial took me all the way to the bottom of the page, past the free trial button
 
looks like a cool idea too
 
not sure why you would need to click two different buttons to change to the free trial page either
Cool app though
 
hmm, free trial links to a different page for me
 
there's one a button at the top of the page too
that takes you to that button
 
2:45 PM
Thanks for QA'ing our website :P
If I could deploy it I'd fix it now.
But I'm just a lowly mobile developer :P
 
heh, yeah
 
It's intended for general contractors to manage problems on a jobsite when the build is nearing completion.
 
you do the actual product lol that isn't lowly
 
Currently most are just writing things down by hand, going back to a computer and either getting someone else to type it up into an Excel sheet or doing that themselves, and then manually emailing all their subcontractors.
We make that easier :)
Photo -> description -> location -> due date -> assignees. The assignees then get an email with a unique link so they can mark when their work is done, so the GC can go back and check on it. Subcontractors don't need an app for our system to work :) Most of our competitors require subcontractors to have a smartphone app too.
BTW that link only recently broke, we just rebranded the app from "Bridgit" to "Closeout by Bridgit", since someone else already owns a product called that.
 
:D
btw, app sounds super handy
Did you know? The collective noun for a group of programmers is a merge-conflict.
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2:54 PM
Heh, it's alright. We're doing a full rewrite/redesign at the moment. Got a few problems like it's really tedious to create multiple similar items, and when you have multiple similar items it's really hard to figure out which is which.
Also, the code is spaghetti. So that's getting fixed. I've spent the last week thinking & planning.
 
I like doing rewrites
 
Yeah :D
 
You get to take everything you learned and start over with that knowledge
 
We've learned so much too.
About how our users interact & use the app, how they want to use the app, etc. Also stuff like we need to assume that we never have internet access on site, and write around that.
 
And if you're like me, everything learnt is soon forgotten :P
 
2:56 PM
I hacked an "offline mode" onto our current one, but it's pretty awful and limited.
 
more apps need offline modes
 
Heh, yeah. I've redesigned it so that everything goes through the database and the activities, fragments, etc, don't even know that the internet exists.
 
nice
 
As opposed to our current mess of 1000+ line adapters calling back into the host fragment, calling .getActivity() and requesting new data. twitch
 
yeah I start to jitter a little if a class goes over 200 lines. 1000+ is unacceptable except for very rare cases
 
3:05 PM
Morning!
 
howdy
 
o/
 
trying to get gradle set up for my groovy project in intellij
 
has anyone played with a pebble watch?
 
Raghav has one, foamy
eski: groovy? I wanted to start learning groovy
how do you like it?
 
3:12 PM
it's my favorite language right now
It's super fast to develop with, extensible, and has lots of neat features taken from other languages
plus JVM-compatible
and when you are unsure of how to write something in a 'groovy' way, you can always just do it like you would in Java
 
Yeah
 
hmm interesting
Emmanuel is pretty amazed by it as well
now that I have summer holidays, I might even start it
was planning to learn at least one language
 
how does it compare to Scala?
 
but thought about going for a functional language
scala, to be specific
 
It generates controller and UI in a second on basis of domain class
 
3:17 PM
FFS... I can't export from Eclipse anymore
 
Back to eclipse again?
shakes head
lol
 
Just to get this release out... but now neither build environment works -_-
 
didn't you back up Lux before fiddling around with AS?
 
groovy is super easy to learn for a java person
 
oh
nice!
 
3:19 PM
especially if you have experience with a dynamic language as well
 
Yeah I did, but I think this issue might be related to the new SDK install
 
Yeah I know some dynamic languages
okay then I'll digg into it
 
eski : I really like groovy
because syntax is similar to java and can do your work faster
 
tgm and eski, what do you guys use groovy for?
 
Groovy is awesome
 
3:23 PM
anything that is not android now
 
For making dynamic web application
 
You can use it for web stuff?
 
the other good thing about learning groovy is that you'll get better at gradle
because gradle is a DSL built on groovy
yeah
there is Grails
 
Yeah Ahmad
 
"groovy on rails"
 
3:24 PM
Alright eski
 
yeah I want to write gradle plugins
grails
yeah heard of that
okay, next thing to learn then
 
I set up some decently complex neural networks in groovy in an hour
and evolution algorithm for training
I need to figure out how to integrate groovy with GPU programming though
 
YES. There's a scraping framework for groovy: nekohtml.sourceforge.net
My needs are satisfied
 
:D
I bet groovy would be great for scraping
since it is good for one-off programs
 
is groovy fast?
 
3:29 PM
It's pretty comparable nowadays
 
Agile development
 
And you can compile hotspots if you need to
kind of the same idea behind usage of the NDK in android, write it in java first, and then if you really need to maybe try to optimize in C
 
ah cool
 
Woot! Got my jar file built: Intellij+Groovy+Gradle
 
I need to learn how all this shit works
Is there a tutorial or guide to Gradle etc?
 
3:42 PM
so since it's compatible with the JVM, can I write libs in groovy and use it in java?
@LancePreston Oh my! You're the guy that we once trolled
@Emmanuel check it out
 
I think so Ahmad, but I will have to verify that
it would be really nice to do that
 
Yeah
But I think that should work
since it's the same with scala
 
yeah
 
FFS
 
you can run scala and java code in an android app side by side
 
3:46 PM
All my problems were Google's fault
 
So yeah, @Lance. No, no. Sorry no access of you.
And all your income too
 
LOL
yes that is one of the nice things about Groovy
 
god, that chat was just too amusing
 
that chat was funny
 

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