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12:42 AM
Is there a setting to prevent Doctrine from putting values into the message of an exception?
 
 
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2:48 AM
I need to vent this somewhere. I have a fucking bat. In my apartment. The second night in a row. I think I closed the opening it was coming in, but the fucker will not leave.
I thought I had it out, but I come into my living room and see it fucking perching on my blinds on a window. -_-
Can I curl up in a ball and hide from everything? >.<
 
@Tiffany maybe get Bat Repellents?
 
3:12 AM
Today is a too day : D
 
3:52 AM
@Tiffany Tennis rackets work well.
 
 
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5:15 AM
@Trowski I tried a broom, it just kept flying around my apartment.
Even with my back door open to the outside, it would not fly outside
Like it's scared to go outside, but it can't stay in here...
 
@Trowski hah. I grew up in a big house far, far in the country with an (I'm sure it was) actual bat nest in the attic, and they would wander in the house from time to time. There were many of them, I think; my badass mom did burn one of them alive at some point.
@Tiffany it's most certainly scared of everything. maybe try to wrap it in a big towel. that way you can redirect it outside without it cratching you.
*scratching.
 
 
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6:49 AM
@Girgias in the Gmail settings you can define the sender address, just add the @php.net handle which probably already is forwarding to you, then you get a confirmation email as you are the sender and bam, you can select the @php.net handle as your default sender
 
@Danack nikita didn't like that approach, and we started discussing ways to do the inline symbol support ... which I still don't like and feels over complicated, so I lost interest ...
moin all
 
new way to send your file (upto 1 GB without login & 2.5 GB with login):
https://send.firefox.com

1. select either number of downloads OR number of days
2. protect your file(s) with password
3. upload and send the link to your client/employee/whomsoever
That's it..
 
@JoeWatkins Huomenta Joe
 
is that pronounced as it's read ?
 
Yeah, all finnish words are
 
6:59 AM
/me adds to list of greetings
 
@Danack sadly no, this bite me a few times as well, have code to filter htis out now. maybe better to change the exception on doctrine side
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I did put on a jacket and nitrile gloves and tried picking it up when it was on my bathroom floor but it kept croaking at me, and I was afraid of it biting me, so I left it be. but it's making me nervous as fuck
not getting much sleep, thinking aboout calling animal control in the morning
if it hasn't left
 
@JoeWatkins non morning greetings also go like Moi or Moikka here (personally prefer the moi as its close to the southern denmark one at the german border -- moin)
 
I never knew moin was a word, I thought we were just skipping letters out of laziness ... true story ...
 
being from the part of germany that uses "moin" as greeting, i love this because it has this happy touch to it :)
 
7:11 AM
@JoeWatkins in the Schleswig-Holstein region of Germany and the region of South Denmark that is actually a word you say for every occassion, good morning, good day, good evening etc
 
same in Hessen lots of ppl say moin here
 
so everyone else knew it was a word ...
 
morning
 
moin
which is an actual word
 
you can also say moin moin
 
7:18 AM
and you are considered chatty if you do ;)
 
If GH RFCs as PRs are an experiment may I go and join the experiment with object initializer RFC?
That could lead to some conclusions and may help in decision-making if it works in battle, right?
 
@Gordon in finnish saying moi moi is "Bye" xd
 
no, please don't, if you want to conduct an rfc this way, you have to wait until we've had the process rfc I think ...
it's reasonable to perform one test, now we need to decide if we're going to do this formally ...
 
wouldn't that test be incomplete with one RFC at time only?
 
when this rfc wraps up, if nikita doesn't, I'll do the process RFC as quick as possible, but this needs to complete first ...
@brzuchal no
 
7:24 AM
Ok
 
with more than one, it's not a test anymore, it's us deciding we're going to do things differently without the agreement of the entire group ...
there's plenty of time for 8 anyway, no need to panic, and it's too late for anything in 7.4 ... so you might as well wait and see if we adopt this whatever ...
also, before we do another one of these, we all need to agree in which ways the opener of the pull request is allowed to moderate the conversation themselves ... at the moment nikita is not doing heavy moderation, so there's some offtopic creeping in ... we need to make it clear that the author is allowed to remove offtopic stuff (and what they do with it when it's removed) ...
then we need to find out if org members can moderate, or undo moderations performed by opener ...
@NikiC do you know if org members can moderate or otherwise override actions of the opener ? shall I post a comment that you can delete immediately so we can find out ?
 
@JoeWatkins I can't moderate the RFC PR
 
7:41 AM
are you in the php org ? I can delete comments and unresolve things
but I'm not sure if github even supports un-deleting stuff, which is what I want to find out
 
I'm a member of the php-src team on github/php
 
and you can't delete/unresolve ?
 
Negatory
 
I guess that's just a case of misconfiguration in the org and or new repo, we can fix that ...
if it works for me then it works ...
 
gd gd then
 
7:47 AM
172.31.2.146:6379> dbsize
(integer) 23283

$redis = new RedisCluster(NULL, ['foo.euw1.cache.amazonaws.com:6379']);
$keys = $redis->keys('*');
var_dump($keys);
Anyone know what's going on here? :D
 
does exactly the same happen when xdebug is not loaded ?
 
Aye :/
 
where is this happening ?
local machine, prod server, staging ?
 
Just prod at the moment
 
I don't have the energy to try to enumerate what might be going on, but I'll happily take a look myself ... I know you've been struggling with this for days ... so how badly do you want an answer ?
 
7:51 AM
Days? I posted it last night
 
ah was it last night ... sorry, memory is fuzzy ... I knew I'd seen something like this recently ...
 
Funnily, it works if I use Redis instead of RedisCluster, but obviously that breaks the clustering functionality
 
@JoeWatkins opener can moderate only if is a part of org but opener could be anyone like me who is not part of org, what then?
 
Gives me blank answers every other request, since I assume it uses a round-robin approach
 
are you familiar with gdb ?
 
7:55 AM
Vaguely, I've used it in the past for apache segfaults
 
@BenFortune switching from rediscluster to redis fixes it? uuuh, that could be a memory problem on the extension level. but also, keys(*) on a cluster sounds like a really bad idea :D
keys(*) is already O(N) operation in redis
 
Also I'm on 5.5.38, don't judge me
 
adscititious derived or acquired from something extrinsic
 
@BenFortune are you on the latest version of redis at least?
 
4.2, the client
 
8:02 AM
@beberlei but there's only one host, you expect it to behave differently still ?
 
Morning
 
Please tell me how to set a function return value without macros?
It should be somewhere in fci, but how to access it?
 
@JoeWatkins I don't think the opener can do much more than resolve conversations (unless he is also an org member)
 
8:11 AM
Yes, I know about this structure, but can I access it during function call somewhere?
 
@NikiC yeah @brzuchal just said, I didn't know that
it's going to have to be acceptable, but it might be better that way anyway ...
 
@Kalle I think I've tried that but then it asks me to authenticate to the SMTP server (php-smtp3.php.net) which fails with my credentials, or are you talking about something else that I'm not seeing?
 
it takes away the question of trusting opener to moderate reasonably, and charges a few people with that responsibility instead ... it's better I think ...
@Girgias there's no php smtp server that you can use, use gmails smtp
 
Well, I did expect that
But I can't seem to find the correct setting
 
@lisachenko during ?
@Girgias gmail make it quite hard, you have to setup "unauthorized app access" or something like those words
 
8:16 AM
I'm in Settings > Accounts and Import; and trying to use the Send mail as: thing
Ohhhhhhh
 
sorry I done it once years ago and forgot the details, someone might remember them ... the basic procedure was setting up that unauthorized thing, and then just using the gmail smtp settings when adding the account ... but it was quite a hassle ...
 
Well it's still asking me to specify an SMTP server
 
yes, use the gmail one
 
Okay so I just need to figure out what gmail's smtp address is ?
 
let me look at mine a minute
Joe Watkins <krakjoe@php.net>
Mail is sent through: smtp.gmail.com
Secured connection on port 587 using TLS
 
8:20 AM
Is the username and password that you need to specify the gmail ones or the PHP.net ones ?
 
@lisachenko I'm not sure what you mean by during, or why you need to access that structure ... you set fci.retval before entering the call ...
@Girgias gmail
 
Okay
 
@JoeWatkins yes, imagine that this happen during typical user function call. And my code is able to access global execution state and arguments via EG(current_execute_data) but I don't have an access to C stack where return_value ZVAL is passed.
 
@JoeWatkins it works :D
Thanks <3
 
8:23 AM
That was a hassle
 
From what I can see, the return_value is passed as argument to the zend_call_function... And no global pointers to it..
 
it's part of the frame
fci/fcc's are only used to initialize the call frame, they are never actually used at runtime, the thing you are going to be working with is always going to be a frame (zend_execute_data) ... memorize that structure ...
then, actually abstract it, it's going to be the bread and butter of whatever you are doing ...
 
@JoeWatkins It's a little bit crazy, but it works right now. Accessing arguments, class modification, method modifiers changing, opcode handlers...
 
have you tested against 8+JIT ?
 
Not yet, because this will be the next step, anyway we will have something like VMT (metod table) with pointer to raw C functions, yes?
 
8:33 AM
writing something incompatible with the jit at this point in time doesn't make much sense, you have to test there, if what you are doing is just unsupported then you need to find another way ...
 
@Girgias I was trying the same yesterday with no success, the issue I have all emails which I send to my @php.net alias are not coming back, askes Sasha about that he cshowed me some logs that gmail received them but thei're not in my inbox
 
Well I haven't tried sending one but managed to setup gmail to be able to setup
 
It works if I send it from diffferent mailbox then it gets to my Gmail through the alias but not when send from aliasing email
 
That's the bit I was struggling with
 
@brzuchal I don't expect emails I send from @php.net to be delivered to my inbox ...
(they shouldn't be, adjust expectations, there is nothing wrong)
 
8:36 AM
I've just started having connection problems with GitHub Desktop. I can't seem to clone/push etc. I've been searching for a solution, but couldn't find anything that applies to Desktop. Any ideas?
 
I'm slightly open the door to PHP internals, so, there will be JIT API somewhere that can be used like any traditional functions. Give me an access to the memory, and I will find a way how to modify it...
 
Yes, me either but was confused when trying to test if alias works
 
send to me
@lisachenko there's no jit api ...
 
@JoeWatkins libjit?
Like Anthony does in his library, no?
 
@JoeWatkins I find it out working when used gmx account
 
8:38 AM
there's no exported API to interface with Zend's JIT, which is based on dynasm, it's part of opcache and doesn't need to export any API ...
@brzuchal ah right, everything is fine ...
imagine the alternative ... everything you send to an internals thread as @php.net coming to your inbox as mail would be extremely annoying ....
 
@JoeWatkins i have a guess, that I should work on compile stage and AST transformation to produce a code before JIT
Digging into i_init_func_execute_data ...
 
you're guessing ... so ... honestly, without any idea about how the JIT works, yes, you should definitely be working on AST transformations and so completely avoiding the complexities of the JIT ... but it's not quite that simple, you can work with opcodes without breaking the JIT, but first you have to really know about Zend and the JIT ...
I don't know exactly how you're doing everything, which is why I said test ... if at this point everything still works, and you keep testing as you're developing, then maybe you don't really need to know the reasons why (right now), you just can keep spending time on it knowing your not wasting that time ...
 
@JoeWatkins I have best experts here ) And I hope, that Dmitry with Nikita can help me too. At least, I know, that it should be possible
 
sup
 
8:46 AM
@JoeWatkins your help is very valuable for me, especially with stack and arguments! So, it works now and I'm going deeper step-by-step
 
moin
 
Oy
 
@lisachenko that's cool ... I'd also just give testing 8+JIT a higher priority, maybe it should be the next thing you do ... maybe everything works and there's nothing to worry about there, maybe something doesn't work but can be easily fixed, or maybe the whole idea needs to be rethought, it's best to find that out now imo
and as the thing develops, when you do a new thing, test against the JIT just to make sure it's not totally broken, so there's no nasty surprises ...
 
@JoeWatkins yeah, will check this...
 
8:51 AM
@lisachenko the thing to bear in mind is that the JIT'd code is absolutely final, you can't modify it at all without placing super user restrictions on your code ... so if you're thinking of moving to a lower level when you need to move to a lower level, that's totally out of the question ...
 
@Girgias that's because he's using a prehistoric PHP version
And by prehistoric I obviously mean older than PHP 8 :P
 
Oh makes sense then
x')
 
@JoeWatkins )) Assembler-defined functions on userland? This should be funny: to take asm compiler, create a memory region, put machine codes into it and convert it to internal_function )))
Question here is just to learn structures and memory model
 
well yeah, you can otherwise create copies or generated code ... but think about the effect on production servers of duplicating all that memory ... a solution that totally changes the scalability of the software it modifies it not really a production solution ...
 
<?php
class Foo { private $foo; }
class Bar extends Foo {}
$bar = new Bar();
$bar->foo = "baz";
var_dump($bar->foo);
Why this works without any warning? ^^
 
8:56 AM
foo is public member of bar
 
Yes, I know but would expect some notice about that
 
why ?
 
If I'll create Bar in public static method of Bar it would also be public but was instantiaing object from Bar scope so made unexpectedly a public dynamic variable
 
Wat
Why would it throw a notice
The private property is only related to the parent class
That's kind of the point of a private property/method
 
Yes, I know. Cause it's easy to presume that it was unintentional use
 
8:59 AM
I don't agree with that
 
<?php
class Foo { private $foo; }
class Bar extends Foo {
    public static function create($foo): self {
        $self = new self();
        $self->foo = "baz";
        return $self;
    }
}
$bar = Bar::create("baz");
var_dump($bar->foo);
In that case it was unintentional
to create public in my mind
 
I know what you mean
I just don't think it's an issue
If it's your code you know your API
Or you can change it
And if it's a library that you use then you're not using it's public API (because something protected is in the realm of a public API)
 
Yes, I have to define Bar property as private $foo;
then it's ok
 
Well yes?
 
9:28 AM
Lexical scope
Initializer block uses current lexical scope, which means all local variables, accessible properties and methods, global variables and functions are possible to use for initializing object properties inside the object initializer block.

Visibility
Initializer block allows assigning values to properties accessible from the current class context. This means if used to initialize object properties from inside the same class like for eg. using named static constructor all standard visibility rules apply as it is just a simplification of object creation and assigning values statem
Is it expressed properly in english in context of object initializer? ^^
 
@Girgias Did you fix the @php.net alias?
 
Yeah Joe did provide me with the steps needed
Haven't tried sending an email with it yet but I would expect it to work out of the box
 
Awesome, I just checked myself how I did it back then: imgur.com/a/Li72JBK
 
Yeah same setup
I was getting stuck at the next page
Where it asks for an SMTP server and username/password
 
I did not have that, it just sent a confirmation email I had to respond to I reckon
but then again I did set this up like 12 or so years ago
 
9:40 AM
Yeah they changed stuff
You need to authorize non secure apps and then set gmail's SMTP and use your gmail account credentials
no I just need to figure out why I cannot pull php.net's git repo
I really think that it doesn't accept my ed25519 public key
 
Maybe that crypto method is just throwing it a curveball.... curve... ball.... geddit? :P
 
Love the spam mails on php-announce
 
@MarkR sight
I think I'll just create a new RSA key besides my other key
Would this issue need to be sent to systems@ ?
 
@Girgias Most likely yes and CC Sascha there
 
Any idea how many people are subscribed to it Kalle?
 
9:49 AM
Okay now I need to subscribe to the list so I can send an email there
 
@MarkR To php-announce?
 
Yep
 
Wouldn't suprise me if its 10k+
 
If I might suggest so, the Mailgun API is pretty nice and the pricing is competitive. Rather than faffing around with emails, a simple script could use github SSO and handle the emails, RSS and displaying it on the web
 
the problem with mailgun is they share ips between all users, so it can happen (and does frequently) that they assign you to an IP that lands on a spamlist for a few hours. you need to dip into more expensive services to get around that problem :)
 
9:56 AM
On the otherhand they go to a great deal of effort to get those IPs whitelisted, but you can have them use a dedicated IP.
 
I don't really think its that an essential resource to check for new releases, most would just check the website anyhow, given how streamlined release schedule and the fact we don't do PL releases, then I don't think it makes any sense to change the current setup
 
@MarkR a dedicated IP only makes sense if you send upwards of 100k emails every month, better much more. otherwise its too low traffic and gets penalized by receivers (namely google) as well. i hate email (from an application sender perspective) ;)
 
With some midnight hacking, I've created a script to create and update package.xml for pecl packages. https://gist.github.com/jasny/9eb02a0d1c6bc7e49aef29096799b202
@Derick @NikiC @beberlei Give it a try. If something isn't working in your setup plz let me know.
 
@Jasny-ArnoldDaniels Does it keep previous releases/release notes, as per: github.com/xdebug/xdebug/commit/… ?
 
10:05 AM
@Girgias you don't need a key to pull from git.php.net
 
huh
 
Did I setup the remote incorrectly ?
 
mornin
 
10:06 AM
Ah using https
 
The script adds a release and updates the current release info based on the version in your main header file.
It also automatically remove files from contents that no longer exist and adds new .c, .h and .phpt files (that aren't ignored via .gitignore).
 
@Girgias I generally use the github mirror for the remote and set the pushurl ...
 
@Girgias The URLs are found on git.php.net per project at the top of the root of the project: git.php.net/?p=php-src.git;a=summary
 
girgias@DESKTOP-3HAG145:/mnt/c/Dev/php-src$ git remote -v
origin git@github.com:Girgias/php-src.git (fetch)
origin git@github.com:Girgias/php-src.git (push)
php git@git.php.net:/php-src.git (fetch)
php git@git.php.net:/php-src.git (push)
That's how my remotes are currently set
And I get a fatal when I try to pull:
girgias@DESKTOP-3HAG145:/mnt/c/Dev/php-src$ git pull php
git@git.php.net: Permission denied (publickey).
fatal: Could not read from remote repository.

Please make sure you have the correct access rights
and the repository exists.
 
Windows?
 
10:10 AM
WSL
But yeah Windows in essence
 
[remote "origin"]
url = git://github.com/php/php-src
fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
pushurl = https://u:p@git.php.net/push/php-src.git
set u/p
I don't think the git server actually supports keys
 
However that setup works on my tower but not my laptop, the only difference is that my tower has an RSA key and my laptop has an ED25519 key
 
I had a similar issue and my dirty way to fix it was to start pageant (from PuTTy) and auth my private key and it did the trick
 
Weird, because I can pull/push from GitHub/GitLab just fine
 
but it was only when I cloned with the git@... URI, but then again I use a mix of TortoiseGit and git on cli
 
10:12 AM
@JoeWatkins wish me a good morning.
 
@JoeWatkins Use your new found knowledge ^^ ^^
:D
 
I actually got quire accustomed to git on cli
now maybe abusing a bit too much of git rebase buuuuuuuuuuuuut
 
@JayIsTooCommon huomenta
krakjoe@fiji:/opt/src$ git clone git@git.php.net:/php-src.git php-src.git
Cloning into 'php-src.git'...
git@git.php.net: Permission denied (publickey).
fatal: Could not read from remote repository.

Please make sure you have the correct access rights
and the repository exists.
I've never been able to use git@ on git.php.net ... my key is definitely acceptable ...
 
Huuuuuuuuuuum
 
also, your origin push url is set to github not git.php.net
 
10:16 AM
Yeah I know that
 
@Jasny-ArnoldDaniels Trying...
php_ast.h does not contain 'PHP_AST_EXTNAME' macro
 
@JoeWatkins Really? I have only ever been able to use git@...
 
Why is this required?
 
@Kalle really, I thought it didn't work ...
it still doesn't for me ...
 
cmb
@JoeWatkins, you have to enter the public key on master.php.net/manage/users.php?username=krakjoe
 
10:19 AM
@NikiC I guess it isn't. Hold on
 
wat anybody can edit anybodies pages ?
@Kalle can you just check if your key is an RSA one?
 
aw dude, it has my old key still ...
 
I'm pretty sure it is, sec
yeah its an rsa
 
So I do think that's the issue it only accepts RSA keys
Now what's the subscribe email address for system? :(
 
There is none, its invite only based
same for security@ afair
 
10:23 AM
krakjoe@fiji:/opt/src$ git clone git@git.php.net:/php-src.git php-src.git
Cloning into 'php-src.git'...
remote: Counting objects: 817738, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (159095/159095), done.
victory is mine ...
 
aaaa so I can just send it to it without the deamon complaining?
 
@JoeWatkins Wahey!
 
Woop woop
 
@Girgias you should be able to yeah
 
10:24 AM
Okay going to do that and Sascha's email is sascha@php.net I suppose?
 
cmb
@JoeWatkins, that might also have solved your issues regarding downloads.php.net :)
 
@JoeWatkins how are you, you big doofus?
 
@JayIsTooCommon missing you :) where you been at ?
@cmb oh I'll bet it does ...
 
cmb
 
@cmb Thanks :)
 
cmb
10:26 AM
yw
 
Verification code:
krakjoe@downloads.php.net's password:
it doesn't
 
@JoeWatkins just being a hero. I'm back programming though so i'll be around for now. Anything new? Still Spanish?
 
still totally spanish, nothing really new, I'm getting steadily more beautiful with age, but no surprises ...
 
^.^
Are you Alicante way?
 
@NikiC Can you give it another go? If it still doesn't work I can try it out myself for your repo.
 
10:36 AM
@Jasny-ArnoldDaniels It works, though not as I would expect
 
@NikiC in what way?
 
The general process for me is to do the release, and then do a "back to dev" commit that adds dev suffixes and moves the release into the changelog
Which means that now the "dev" release got moved into the changelog
 
@JayIsTooCommon yeah, not far from benidorm
 
@JoeWatkins aw, I was round your way the other week. Maybe next time
 
aww ... what were you doing here ?
 
10:39 AM
ugh how is stdin supposed to work if stdin is closed?
 
@NikiC at which point do you change PHP_AST_VERSION?
You typically pipe to stdin
 
@Jasny-ArnoldDaniels when doing the release I change it to remove dev suffix, and in the subsequent commit I increment and add dev back
 
@JoeWatkins I was at la marquesa, redovan and then benidorm to get slaughtered. Have family out in spain so i'll be out there a lot. Family are more southern though
 
@beberlei Yeah, I'll open an issue. It seems like quite the accidental info release.
 
@Jasny-ArnoldDaniels But what if you don't? That is 0<&-. I don't really get how this is supposed to work in terms of C guarantees.
 
10:42 AM
@JoeWatkins Thanks.
 
@JayIsTooCommon next time you got a day in benidorm holla, you can take me out for a drink ...
 
cat /tmp/release-notes.txt | make package.xml
or use git for release notes if you can, or... anything
 
@NikiC getc on closed stdin in c returns -1
 
@JoeWatkins sure. As long as you know my heart still belongs to @PeeHaa
 
haha
 
10:44 AM
@Jasny-ArnoldDaniels err, stdin is an unrelated discussion ^^
 
ah :-)
@NikiC So the problem is that you might accidentally add a dev release if you forget to remove dev? In other words, if the version has dev in it, give an error instead. Sure..
Does that solve the concerns or still not...
 
@JoeWatkins @NikiC Does the default ./configure yield any build warnings on Unix for php-src?
 
I'm not sure about the default configure, but in general the build should be warning free for recent branches I believe ...
we don't test the default configure and I'm not sure how different it is from anything that's tested or packaged by anyone ...
 
I'm just curious because for Windows its always been spewing out around 1k warnings with a normal buildconf && configure && nmake
 
yeah ... you should fix that ...
we can do -Werror builds now ...
 
10:54 AM
Funny Joe, very funny xD
 
@NikiC I added a check so versions with `dev` don't get released.
Note that your old package.xml is always backed up as package.xml~ for if something goes wrong.
 
I ran PHP 7.4 on windows last night and had quite the annoyance getting the right version of the VS Runtime. 14.0 vs 14.14 or something like that.
The naming is confusing
 
@MarkR The Visual Studio installer allows you to batch install every runtime
 
I eventually found the combined package that installs everything through 2019, but if the linker message is internal, can we maybe stick the actual URL in it?
 
Thats a default build
 
That's 32 bit no?
 
x64
 
@pmmaga I have heard a rumour of numbers that are 1 greater than 9.....
 
11:01 AM
All of those errors suggest building 32 bit to me.
 
cmb
@MarkR, see windows.php.net. There are download links for the runtimes in the left sidebar (that website needs more anchors)
Other than that: 14.0x is VS2015, 14.1x is VS2017 and 14.2x is VS2019
 
Well that's just terrible naming convention on Microsoft's part :-)
 
cmb
@MarkR, which errors? Why 32bit?
 
@pmmaga hahaha you have to be kidding me
 
let me go check the C file
 
11:06 AM
@cmb I think it was a response to my gist above :)
 
@Danack ;D I love the reasoning
@JayIsTooCommon heyooo jay!
 
ah nevermind, the gd library is using 32 bit ints where as PHP is using 64 bit long longs, hence the warning.
 
@pmmaga o/ pedros
 
gdImageEllipse(gdImagePtr im, int mx, int my, int w, int h, int c)

vs

zend_long cx, cy, w, h, color;
zend_parse_parameters(ZEND_NUM_ARGS(), "rlllll", &IM, &cx, &cy, &w, &h, &color)
 
@JoeWatkins okay ... apparently that is true because the underlying fd 0 is closed and everything results in BADFD.
But if something else opens a file in the meantime, all those operations actually succeed
And in PHP we pretty much always open at least one file (the one being executed)
 
11:20 AM
@NikiC that's because c treats/has to treat the first open file descriptor as stdin, we've no reason to do that
so it should fail, right ?
 
12:17 PM
@JoeWatkins it should fail somehow ... just not sure how to actually go about that
We probably need to check whether FDs 0/1/2 are open sometime early during startup, remember that and then create some kind of dummy stream if they weren't open at the time
 
As the mailing list is kind of a chaotic right now, for the record; there are problems with having the discussions on github, just as there are with having the discussion on a terrible mailing list. But they are not really technical problems as they probably don't have a single technical solution. They are documentation problems, that would be best solved (imo) by having a paid member of staff on the PHP project writing lots of words.
 
jesus, bgphp is expensive
 
In particular, explaining what a type system is, or how a particular RFC could be used is too much work for a single RFC author to do, and is something that could be done by someone else. But as it would be boring work, that would need to be carried out in a timely manner that really can't depend on volunteer efforts.
@JayIsTooCommon laughs in Java conference pricing
 
I want phpnw or sw back :C
 
12:35 PM
Allow any functions in ob_start user's callback – #78495
 
@JayIsTooCommon come to Barcelona :)
@NikiC and I will be there... @JoeWatkins mentioned maybe as well (wink wink reminder Joe :)
 
You'd think for a web scripting system, there'd be something custom. But I ain't complaining about github, it's sweet
 
@ircmaxell that's a really good line up of speakers
 
12:51 PM
@JayIsTooCommon 234€ is really expensive? its ok i think, there are php conferences that go for 600+
 
@beberlei as a from price, I think so yes. But expensive is perspective
 
@JoeWatkins What is your key type? Is it ed25519 by chance?
 
@ircmaxell damnit, now you almost have me for a spontaneous trip
 
I can't ever imagine paying £600 for a couple of days conference that would be up on YouTube a few weeks later
 
@DaveRandom php Barcelona - £40 round flights (ryanair) ... tempted :D?
 
12:53 PM
@JayIsTooCommon plus the trees as compensation i hope :p
 
@LeviMorrison he didn't update his key on people.php.net, however I got this issue because I've got an ED25519 key
 
@LeviMorrison ooooh! i have my first one with stack depth segfault :p
 
That lady has been trying to convince me to use GO for quite a few years now :x
 
@beberlei Congrats! You have achieved disappointment.
FYI, I suggest telling the customer to raise the OS stack size with ulimit.
@Girgias yeah, it's another infra issue we have :/
We should probably message someone about it. I suspected that it was my key type that was giving me issues.
 
Yeah I sent an email to systems earlier
And Sascha CCed
soooooo
 
12:58 PM
@LeviMorrison does php-fpm have a setting for that or is that better done globally?
 
@beberlei It's an OS level thing. There literally is not a fix for this issue you can do at the PHP level.
 

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