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00:28
Is there a list of quality books for PHP?
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These aren't PHP-specific, but they'll help you more than any language-specific book.
01:09
@rdlowrey What about learning the language of PHP?
 
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03:30
hey all
04:00
today must be a very sleepy day.. nothing is happening here.. :( Same situation at the Javascript room.. ??
Hi guys whats cooking??
'@ShyamK yup sleepy room, hehe
@tomexsans other than the toast I burnt this morning.. I guess nothing much.. nothing here anyway
 
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05:44
morning :)
06:10
morning :)
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06:30
hello, nerdmigoes :)
06:43
hey @Sam
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@ShyamK hey.......how's it going?
another boring day..
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lol.....it is?
didn't see you the past two days..
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oh yeah.....took the weekend off :D
got busy with friends and non-programming stuff :D
06:46
ya.. getting fed up of this..no work days suck
@Sam weekend?
haha..
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yup......didn't show up on SO at all....sweet!
so....you have nothing to do today?
ya.. nothing.. and I got to wait another 6 hours b4 I can leave for home
got to clock 8 hours per day at office :(
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lol.....so; work on personal project :D
the silence has been broken, hi guys . .
@tomexsans yeah finally
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06:51
hi @tomexsans
@Sam yeah.. doing that.. but it gets boring unless I got music blazing around me..
was learning jquery and jquery mobile.. :D
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lol.....and you are disallowed from blasting music?
@Sam I dont wanna use head phones.. so.. yes
need to learn sencha and all too.. god my list just grows longer and longer each day
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lol...don't wanna burst them ear-drums :P
can still chat with burst ear-drums :D
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06:54
if you spend your time learning frameworks, you'll find out you've wasted your time on non-essentials
frameworks? example..
codeigniter
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Sencha
whooh there are 2 sam's here
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there are?
06:56
yes
@Sam ,@Sam ,@Sam
@Sam @Sam
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no, there isn't
just one at the moment
then why does your name pop up twice after @ is typed?
@Sam
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cause the system hasn't refreshed or something
the other Sam was probably here earlier
but he's currently not here
06:58
this has been the case the last time we spoke also
hey guys whats keeping you busy this days??
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life.....:)
@sam and @ShyamK, hoped i tagged the right sam correctly
life is good
keeping me busy??? gawd.. how I wish I was busy
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lol.....I woke up today with a blistering headache
07:00
time and tide don't wait for no man.. atleast until time machines are invented
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crawled up to my desk
@ShyamK hahaha, were the same
@tomexsans lol
was it hangover??
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grabbed my blanket, and slept on the floor for about 3 hrs; then, I felt good
07:01
@Sam must be the hang over from non-coding activity
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yup......but not from alcohol
from coding....:P
@tomexsans wow..I seriously think we might be the same person..
spiritually or something at least
haha a clone you cloned me . . tomexsans = new clone();
haha
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lol....that's not how you clone, is it?
:P
shouldn't it be
07:04
haha i dont know it just popped in my mind, heh
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$tom = new person();
$shyam = clone $tom;
:P
haha
rofl
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:)
morning
Whats your processor??
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07:05
morning, PeeHaa
@PeeHaa morning
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processor?
lol....someone's a robot here? :P
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tom.......powered by Intel :P
hahaha no i'm not just wanna know what environment your working with
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07:08
at the moment, Win 7 32-bit; got a laptop with Ubuntu on it; will switch on it later
since I'm moving in open source direction, I'm waving goodbye to Windows
Shyam is powered by AMD :P
yup, ubuntu is good, just having trouble installing the latest 12+
it doesn't come with wubi :)
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burn the iso, and just run it from the cd....that should be easier
nah.. got Ubuntu..
@tomexsans 12.04 has got a lot off bugs.. the guys on chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/201/ask-ubuntu-general-room said that an update was soon to be released.
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if it's just released, yet; it's bound to be bug-ful :P
running it live will be a nice option
07:14
my ubuntu is 10.10, i ordered it and it took a year to come :) by that time 12+ is up hehehe
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lol....you ordered a software cd? :P
i hope they will soon have a active-x for ubuntu or something like that . .
do they? yup for free
its free right.. ordering it?
yes its one of my priced installers hahaha
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07:15
lol.....you do realize that by the time they package to ship it to you, an update will be ready online.....:P
lol.. you could just donwload it for free
that way it only depends on your bandwidth
:D
its around 703 mb or so
the earlier versions are less
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ordering a software cd is so..........18th century :P
i'm just trying if they would send it, from the US to the Phil. and they did . .how ubuntu of them hehehe
I heard that the shipping things were stopped.. else I would've ordered one too
while simultaneously updating it online
:D
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lol.....or you can just burn as many as you want online? :P
07:19
why let a free cd go to waste
ya.. but maybe its got the logo or something :D
will look flashy
yup its got the logo. . .
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lol.....you want to increase the expenses of an open source company? :P
well.. no.. but they offered it.. so why not..
now I feel guilty..
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07:22
lol.....they are just trying to be nice....:P
RepWhoring PeeHaa
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PeeHaa, what happened to the Repwhore part?
@Sam so I appreciate their generousity
@Sam he changed it..
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lol....of course he changed it
the question is why.....:P
apparently he aint rep whoring enough to earn the name
07:24
hahaha lol at you two,
@Sam I was getting to that
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really? someone was keeping scores?
haha.. lol at @tomexsans :P
Apr 26 at 9:04, by RepWhoringPeeHaa
@Sam It's not that much. I really didn't try that hard. My name is repwhore, but I mostly don't do that :)
@Sam maybe he was
07:25
Apr 22 at 15:20, by RepWhoringPeeHaa
everybody is a repwhore nowadays: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10269119/jquery-find-closet-id
May 5 at 19:51, by RepWhoringPeeHaa
Fuck I hate those repwhores :( http://stackoverflow.com/a/10465399/508666
:-)
not me.. atleast not yet..
Hi friends, is there a good idea to keep a persistant session without cookie enabled? Actually my PHP file is not visited by a browser but a Windows Desktop Application, and the developer said to me that it is hard to simulate cookie in his application.
sorry for the ignorance on my part, but what is a repWhore??
google it tom
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07:27
@pluto usually, the session id will be appended to the URL
@tomexsans Someone who is answering all questions for rep even the ones who clearly are dupes / wrong etc. All for rep points :)
ok, hehehe if i had not ask this question, i will be misguided by the 'whore' :D
there seems to be a lot of kitty litter here :D
@Sam thank you Sam, is it something like a token? I planned to use token instead
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I was going for something sexual.....:P
07:28
@tomexsans loool
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@pluto I don't know what a token is, but usually, when sessions are not available as cookies, they are usually appended to the URL string
@PeeHaa, hehehehe
@sam
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@pluto but based on your question, if a Windows application access the file, does it access it via the browser? Cause there's no point for sessions if no browser is involved
hey @ShyamK; so, when's your mysql_* supported applications gonna crash? :P
@Sam you really hoping for the worst ain't ya..
:P
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07:33
lol
tell them to hurry up......:P
@Sam It doesn't access via browser, actually it generate a form data with Visual Basic 6.0 and post it to server over HTTP. and then the server responds it in JSON or XML.
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@pluto so, why would you need a session/cookie?
hey does anyone here have a paypal account.. personal one i mean..
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lol.....doesn't everyone?
friend wanted to take one.. was asking if its free to do so or not..
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07:35
of course, it's free to have one
registration is free
@sam, that's what I want to say. the application needs users to login, upload/download user data etc.
I don't.. I'm from India dude.. everything is like 10 years slower than the rest of the world
@Sam totally free?? as in not a dime will be taken?
or as in they have a one cent service charge'
??
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so, does this mean you are replying me from year 2002? Eurreka......time travel is now possible :P
haha
lmao
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I think you get charged when you link your bank account to the acct
to verify that you are the owner of the bank acct
07:37
could you confirm please @Sam
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and if you transfer funds from your paypal acct to your bank acct, I believe you pay also
will need to confirm with a friend tomorrow
he sells stuff online.....so, he transfers money from paypal frequently
so no cash during the registration time.. just will purchases are made.. k
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@pluto so, the application is a windows application, right?
yeah
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yup
no cash during registration
and everytime you use paypal to purchase items online
07:41
so transfer to the bank and you lose money??
damn..
they make hard cash so diff
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lol.....nothing's free
to come by
its nice to dream..
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lol.....you still gotta wake up .:P
ahha
one day you can buy stuff for an ounce of ... nothing..
hahaha..
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lol.....I think that day has already passed
07:43
dreams is what helps developers develop..
squirts out their brain juice
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true
lol....or maybe laziness
a programmer gets tired of inputing the same data everytime; he writes a program to do that for him....:P
ya that too.. my case is mostly as you said.. I just drift off into lala land
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he then realizes his neighbor just got a wrist injury from typing 20 hrs everyday; so, he sells him the software
laziness just got rewarded $20
lol
and my mom always picked on me for being lazy.. said that I amount to nothing..
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lol
now, you've got a reason to be lazy
07:48
ya.. sure.. lazy..
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of course, you better be bringing home a 7-digit salary; otherwise, you are just a lazy bum....lmao
I wanted to be lazy when I was in school/ college.. not when I have no work at the office
@sam sorry to trouble you again. :) I think I could generate an MD5ed string as the session key and stored it in database after a successful login validation and send it back to the client. Every time the client sends a request, the session key must be post together. is it a proper idea?
thats when the laziness kills me
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@pluto when the user login, how does the application confirm that the user is successfully logged in?
well, you can still be lazy....... :P
didn't Einstein sleep 12 hrs a day? :P
07:52
@sam if the username and password passed the validation, the server will responds "OK" with a session key.
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@pluto ok.....how does the application verify when the user has logged out?
@Sam yeah.. sure..Cos he worked his ass off the rest of hours.. its not like I'm gonna be the next Einstein..
:P
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lol......well, if you happen to be the next Bill Gates, that's suffice for your Mom, right? :D
the client will send a "logout" request with the session key. Or the session key will be expired after a period
@sam the client will send a "logout" request with the session key. Or the session key will be expired after a period
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@pluto ok......I don't think Sessions (in the strictest definition of the word) will work in this case
hey @Nick
07:56
braiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnssssssssss
hey @Nick
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if you want someone powered by AMD, he just came in......:P
evening @Sam, @ShyamK
@Nick brains splattered ?
@ShyamK More like zombie me needs some of your brain powers
No haha, I weirdly just got up. It's 3 AM
07:58
@sam anyway, thank you.
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@pluto you can try what you suggested earlier; or you can have a column in a login table (or whatever table you check for login) with a boolean datatype; if the user is logged in, the column is true, and it turns false when the user logs out; that removes the need for Sessions
Nick got pinged all the way from lala land
Why isn't @pluto just using Sessions ?
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me thinks it's got something to do with the AMD processor currently running in his brain :P
@nick the client is not a browser but a windows application
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cause it's a windows application, not a browser-based application
08:00
ahhhhhh, interesting
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you beat me to it....shyam :P
hey @hakre
@Sam I love how our SO score hasn't changed in a while :P
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@pluto does the explanation make sense?
lol.....I'm hoping for a miracle
@pluto, your idea is good, why not try it to see if it works. .
and your cat is cute too
08:03
@sam thanks, your suggestions helps me :)
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maybe SO system accidentally gives me 10,000 points; I'll be extremely grateful :P
did I just say that there was increasing amount of kitty litter here today..
?
lolol same
oh.. yes.. i did
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@pluto you are welcome; that's how we roll on SO :D
Shyam's picture looks like a mugshot :P
08:04
@Sam howie roll on SO
its supposed to be one.. duh.. :P
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criminal......:P
I love the grade school blue in the background lol
haha..
@tomexsans I think I should have a clear thinking and persuade the windows application developer before start. :)
@tomexsans actually what I want to do is just to simulate a session/cookie mechanism. Just bring the session id from request header to request payload.
08:06
@Sam, Finally been working on my application these past two days, flawk.co
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@Nick that site looks beautiful :P
happy new day everybody
@Sam Haha, do you actually wanna see what it's suppose to look like
@pluto, just what i told you your idea looks fine :)
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@Nick of course :P
08:07
@Nick lovely..
@hakre hiya
@tomexsans thank you :), BTW, the cat avatar is the photo of my pet taken by myself. Thanks that you like it, and yours is cute too :)
cute cats..
but I like tom's cat more.. cuter.. maybe cos its younger.. little kitten?
08:10
yeah, this is a cute cat i got from google :D
why did you search for a google cat?
@ShyamK, thanks :) i hope kitten litters here does not bother you anymore :D
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Morning
haha.. no they dont.. want to have a pet myself.. but mom is totally against it
now the second sam is awake :D
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lol
08:12
hi @Sam @Sam
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and there were two.....P
did I ping you both?
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I wouldn't say awake for another half an hour... yawn
just checking
haha
@ShyamK, i just saw @Sam 's comment on you photo . . . hahahaha LOL
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08:13
I wake up with messages that arent for me :p You must be the same @Sam
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@Sam you used to be the blue Sam, right?
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I did
@tomexsans ya.. he always picks on me ...
but his comment is true
@ShyamK Is it actually true, is that a badass mug shot ?
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@Sam you switched colors :P; now, you are black Sam ?
08:15
no dude.. passport size photo..
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or rainbow-ish?
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Wow racism!
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and that's it, folks; don't drink and drive....:P
that was his mug shut for illegal programming and coding :D
08:17
the half-asleep sam, just checked out ur prof pic.. reminded me of a wolverine- light saber thingy
haha
@tomexsans lol
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@Nick Correct i got it from there :) I pinged Mike earlier with a link to it
@ShyamK It was a glowstick party with 2,000 glowsticks for 12 people :p
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seems there's another samsamx in here
@Sam ahhhh I noticed that this morning and laughed
hey i got this problem sometimes chat won't auto refresh, so i need to refresh it my own . .:( slow internet connection or what. .
@Sam RAVE!
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08:19
Lets get some dubstep WOMPing
Random question of the day, how do you backup web servers?
@PeeHaa reading your ping from yesterday, was AFK, sorry. Tight shedule these days. I'll setup a heroku for the new github cv-pls org so the control is spread.
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Ive been looking at using ntbackup to backup all media + system state
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backup web servers? you mean the files on the server?
u guys crack me up
@Sam yes.. too many sams.?
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@Sam The files, the system configuration + databases etc
08:21
@hakre No worries. If you have time to just upload the latest version of the plugin and send me the link so I can test the auto update functionality that would be great.
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@ShyamK that's how the Sams roll; we move in packs :P
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More Sams than you can shake a stick at
@PeeHaa link plus those headers, right? Can you re-link that SO question?
sam-pack
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08:23
@Sam I'll like an expert answer too on that question; currently though, I manually download the files, and use CPanel for the db, although, I'm reading up on mysqldump for the db
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@Sam Ill see what i can find out :)
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if you receive an expert answer, share the love.....:)
@PeeHaa: Looks like this needs HTTPS right?
@hakre Dunno. Shouldn't matter I guess. Not sure though
@PeeHaa We have SSL I just saw. I'll do a quick upload, let's cross fingers if this helps.
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08:28
hi Jerk......interesting name :)
@hakre cool. great
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@Sam Might be worth a read?

http://webmasters.stackexchange.com/a/1829
http://www.amanda.org/
Oh my god... Estimated time remaining : 18 days, 8hr, 7min
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thanks, @Sam
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Its 9.30 here, and my boss isnt in the office... If i was this late id be getting a warning...
@Sam Lol. Yeah They keep warning me everyday ;)
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08:36
@PeeHaa Haha :p
@PeeHaa, just asking you never warned them back?? hahahaha
@tomexsans I have found another job. How's that for a warning ;)
. @PeeHaa haha nice one :D
@PeeHaa Yeah but for some reasons obscure to me, when it needs to go fast, I have no clue where my local repro is :/
Well it's too early, not seeing the wood for the trees.
08:56
linkedin now has salted sha1 hashed password...
hehe, hackers really crashed their party. .
09:19
linkedin got leakedout
Damn.. I got to start rep whoring if I wanna down vote anything...
@PeeHaa, You don't understand Chinese code?? hahahaha
@PeeHaa finally:
$ curl -I cvbacklog.herokuapp.com/cv-pls.0.18.0.crx
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-length: 121705
Content-Type: application/x-chrome-extension
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:51:08 GMT
Etag: "e4e810-1db69-4c25781b66440"
Last-Modified: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:50:01 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.22 (Unix) PHP/5.3.10
Connection: keep-alive
This should match so far the requirements if I read the questions right. Let me know how this turns out.
@hakre Thanks! I've updated the updates.xml file. Now we just have to wait and see whether people get updated.
Maybe you can simulate that for a test?

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