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08:00
I'm soaking wet
8
TMI
Wes
Wes
:P
instastar
!!blame
It's @PeeHaa's fault
08:00
lol
@Jeeves that's hawt
@PaulCrovella James bond.
@Jeeves Plays guitar intro
@Jimbo What's his name?
wut?
!!blame
08:01
It's @PeeHaa's fault
Wait a sec, where's the source for !!blame
I think Jeeves is literally dumber than before
@Jimbo you might want get !!help
stahp hurting his feels
@Ekin HAMMERTIME!
!!alias help say ♪ I need somebody ♪
08:03
rite...
@PaulCrovella Command 'help' is built in and cannot be altered
oh lol, good
I already tried to fuck jeeves up by altering commands
the beatles should take priority, imo
The only thing I successfully broke was the reminder command
08:04
What's this: ?int $commandId
also someone should fix that hammertime thing to not be stupid
Wes
Wes
nullable types @Jimbo
Didn't even know we had this
it's new
Can't we just have int $commandId = null?
Wes
Wes
08:05
basically the same as int $foo = null, but you aren't allowed to skip it
Ohh
So non-optional, but can be null
skip it?
@Trucy $a = function($x, $y = 1) { }
You can then call $a(1);
Because y is optional, you can skip passing it
Wes
Wes
function a(?int $a){}
function b(int $a = null){}
a(); // error
a(null); // ok
b(); // ok
b(null); // ok
Oh, I get it, thanks you two
I fail to see the use though
08:08
It's basically "can be this typehint, or null, but it's not optional"
Where as, previously (with the = null thing we had), it was "can be this typehint, or null, and it is optional"
This guarantees you at least get a parameter of that type, or null, not an empty parameter, in a function, class method etc
!!friday
Morngins all
Wes
Wes
\o
o/
08:10
o/
o*/*
remember when people put effort into fridays?
@PaulCrovella I woke up. That's effort
08:11
not good enough
Wes
Wes
@Jimbo @Trucy and theres' also:
function bar(): ?Foo{ /* can return Foo objects or null */ }
noice
You guys had any more luck debugging gitamp yesterday @PaulCrovella @Ekin?
@PeeHaa I found a super easier way to recreate the problem
I've got to go outside again ... I super hate it ...
08:13
@PaulCrovella oooooooh
1 hour ago, by Paul Crovella
public function onStart(Endpoint $endpoint)
{
    repeat(function(...$args) {
        \fwrite(STDOUT, "\n\nCurrent: " . \memory_get_usage() . "\n\n");
        throw new \Exception("FUUUUUCK");
        yield;
    }, 5000);
}
What / who part is the culprit?
Add any yield into the repeat(), throw fucks before it, profit
Awesome
is that fixed in 7.1.3 ?
08:14
I was about to think / suggest that
It looks like the same thing
Or just more / different nested generator fuckery
@JoeWatkins I don't know if it's a leak leak, or a userland "leak"
can it be reproduced outside of amp ?
can someone try ?
Any Good Websockets documentation to learn about implemementing "Live Notifications" feature like in twitter or facebook in a web app ? I am new to websockets.
08:18
!!? rfc 6455
Nope, we can't have nice things.
if it's not already fixed, we have two weeks to get the fix into the release branches for 1.3 and 0.17 (if 0 is effected)
Search for "rfc 6455" (https://www.google.com/search?q=rfc+6455&lr=lang_en)
• RFC 6455 - The WebSocket Protocol - IETF Tools - Information about the current status of this document, any errata, and how to provide feedback on i… (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6455)
• RFC 6455 - IETF Datatracker - The WebSocket Protocol (RFC 6455, December 2011) (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc6455)
• RFC 6455 - The WebSocket Protocol - The WebSocket Protocol. This RFC 6455 was published in 2011. Abstract. The WebSocket Protocol enabl… (http://www.rfc-base.org/rfc-6455.html)
(see full text)
@Sayuj3 ^ that's all the info you need
what was the nice things about ?
08:18
php rfcs :P
did two plugins just respond to one message, and why did that happen ?
I know why ...
Thanks @Jeeves
@Sayuj3 You're welcome!
FUCKING TEST JEEVES
Thanks @PeeHaa
08:19
I edited the command ;-)
he edited?
¿Pero por qué? Estoy aquí, ¿no?
:P
oh I don't see an edit
08:19
That's because I'm a ninja
ninjas do testing
ninjas throw shurikens
I'm out again ...
I do testing. 1) deploy 2) let you all use it 3) ? 4) fix or don't fix bug reports
@JoeWatkins later
appveyor php-src build is failing it seems
08:22
!!blame joewatkins
It's PeeHaa joewatkins's fault
oh lol
lol
rofl
you're just gonna get him yelling about testing again like that
08:23
looks like It's indeed on @Joe ci.appveyor.com/project/php/php-src
:P
:-)
08:37
How's the first week been @Danack?
Anonymous
@Trucy read the first 5 lines and it's already pure bull shit. Oh it's Washington Post, that explains it.
Anonymous
when he or she tapped in the wrong codes
Anonymous
screen punchable
Anonymous
Heaven help the employee who might now have to face Amazon chief executive Jeffrey P. Bezos. (Emmanuel Dunand/AFP/Getty Images)
Anonymous
08:45
moin v2
hey jameson
yo @Jay
@JayIsTooCommon eh, my shitnews-o-meter is broken it seems :(
also moin Jay init
this is kinda beautiful - the question, answer, and comment make progressively less sense stackoverflow.com/questions/42573878/…
Anonymous
@Trucy aws.amazon.com/message/41926 From the source makes more sense :)
08:48
@PaulCrovella lol
aww, he edited the comment.. it was in korean
No no no but that answer \o/
How to find logs -> install libxml -> read about upgradnig php
awesomesauce
@PeeHaa "upgradnig" damn Dutches
Anonymous
!!wotd
hydra: a persistent or many-sided problem that presents new obstacles as soon as one aspect is solved.
08:52
that's not dutch, just asynchronous
@Jeeves hail hydra
@PaulCrovella I'm pretty sure the whole Dutch language is asynchronous
@Saitama What does that mean?
@Saitama Are you Captain America?
probably... :/
@Ekin it's a date test
what is a @PeeHaa @JoeWatkins ...
08:55
he took your last name... and your first
Anonymous
@JoeWatkins that is a clusterfuck :)
I wonder how such stupid things could be avoided ...
oh oh
TEST JEEVES
Anonymous
ugh
¿Pero por qué? Estoy aquí, ¿no?
3 messages moved to Trash
3 messages moved to Trash
08:59
!!Joe
:(
!!joe
what have you done
maybe he's testing himself
!!uptime
╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗
║ [7 hours, 46 minutes and 28 seconds] without an accident ║
║               since [2017-03-03 01:15:54]                ║
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the thing is so fucking broken
Anonymous
09:02
leave Jeeves alone!
@JoeWatkins PRs welcome
2 days, 2 times I fuck up jeeves
yeah, like I'm going to do your work for you ...
Anonymous
!!Joe
As we say in french, "Never 2 without 3"
Anonymous
09:04
it's probably the bold text
!!unalias Joe
Alias '!!joe' is not currently mapped
@JoeWatkins it's not mine, nor is it work.. it's a toy that you keep pissing and moaning about
!!alias Joe say TEST JEEVES
@Trucy Alias '!!Joe' already exists.
Anonymous
09:05
hehe
wait wait wait
@PaulCrovella because it's being developed badly
Anonymous
it also lower cases the unalias param it seems :P
@Jeeves ಠ_ಠ
@Trucy What?
09:05
@Jeeves go sleep.
@Linus Go.
Anonymous
@DaveRandom github.com/Room-11/Jeeves/blob/master/src/BuiltIn/Commands/… do we need this strtolower ? moin o/
I'm going to moan until it isn't terrible ... deal with it ... by making it non-terrible ...
09:08
you make php non-terrible first
deal?
@JayIsTooCommon everything is supposed to be stored and looked up as lower-case
why should anyone that comes into this room listen to anything we have to say, when the software we put on display is crap ...
Anonymous
@DaveRandom ok, so a strtolower need to be added somewhere in addAlias I guess
!!help
Built-in commands (* indicates admin-only):
 admin - Manage the bot's admin list. Use 'admin help' for details.
 *alias - Add a bash-style alias
 *approve - Approve the bot for talking in this room. Room owners only.
 *ban - Ban a user from interacting with the bot for a specified period of time
 command - Manage command mappings. Use 'command help' for details.
 help - Alias of 'command list'
 invite - Invite the bot to join a room. This can also be done through the chat web interface.
 *leave - Ask the bot to leave the room. Room owners only.
(see full text)
Anonymous
09:09
Joe - 'say TEST JEEVES'
oh, huh
I think that say is le broken
Anonymous
@Trucy no, looks like it's the capital j
@JayIsTooCommon see Jeeves' playground
Anonymous
ughhh effort
Anonymous
09:10
going now
@JoeWatkins jeeves isn't some kind of showpiece, and I don't think anyone has ever pointed at the project as an example of what to do. and if it bothers you so much then go fix it, otherwise you're turning into just a jeeves version of /r/lolphp
The issue Joe has with it is that it is not unit tested, and he's not wrong about that
on the other hand it's 0.0.0.0.0.0.00.0.0.1-pre-alpha
no, he isn't. but bitching about it doesn't test it.
but we should probably stop treating it like that
@JoeWatkins Thanks! All corrections have been made now.
09:15
posted on March 03, 2017 by PeeHaa

Implemented 40% of the API requests.

@Paul Jay said it was mentioned during his interview process looking for a new job, so I'm pretty sure it is being used as an example of at least one of your abilities ...
Jan 13 at 7:05, by Joe Watkins
words are very easy to write ... patches are not, I'm not interested until there is a patch worthy of discussion ...
and regardless, newbies see us using Jeeves for the few things that do work, they are likely to find it's source code ... the same people that we lecture about testing and writing good code are going to see that none of you are bothering to do that ...
^ sadly
you have a lot to say for someone who dismisses any rfc or idea without a patch as a waste of time
09:19
that's a very different thing ... features of PHP require proof in the form of a patch ... we require no proof that PHP code can be tested
@PaulCrovella he has a point though, we're saying that everyone should test and test again their code, yet we fail to do it
(also please don't fight)
FWIW I did write tests /cc @JoeWatkins
So saying nobody could be bothered is pretty much a lie towards me
a patch isn't proof of anything, it's just an implementation.. and while yeah, shit should be tested, that's not actually something we harp on people about all that much - particular if they're dicking around with some toy
not enough of you can be bothered to do it to an acceptable standard
and either can you apparently
09:22
@PaulCrovella no, it is proof that something is reasonable ... we can talk about generics and async for the next 50 years, but it's a waste of time until someone actually has a patch that works ... proof in that sense, of course both things are possible, but are they possible in a reasonable way ...
I don't work on Jeeves ...
!!unalias joe
Alias '!!joe' removed
mornin
then jeeves is no reflection on you, so don't worry about it
Good moaning :)
09:24
from my perspective, everything looks broken, don't know where to start even ... but several of you are familiar with different parts of it, I'm not sure what is so difficult about testing the parts you're already familiar with ?
\o
@PeeHaa I think there's something fucky going on with the umask on your server, new data files are created as 700
I didn't touch anything related to that ever
Maybe libuv
I will look into it
09:41
github.com/Room-11/Jeeves/issues/176 @PeeHaa @PaulCrovella @JoeWatkins @JayIsTooCommon @Ekin
heading to a meeting about the project I'm on… will probably be decisive about me staying in this company or not
@DaveRandom at the moment I'm all out of fucks to give about it
mornes 11
Anonymous
@pmmaga o/
09:49
looks like a reasonable plan to me
@PaulCrovella it's only code :)
and I'm only pushing you to do better, because you are all able to do better ... I wish I had got more involved at the start, and wish I had more time to dig about in Jeeves, but at this point it's this big complicated system and genuinely I don't know where to start ...
@JoeWatkins that you've done well to convince me not to bother with. The thing is I've heard you - we've all heard you - but bitching about it constantly isn't actually all that motivating, it just becomes irritating.
Hey @SebastianBergmann sorry for bugging you in here, but is there anything I can do to help resolve github.com/sebastianbergmann/php-code-coverage/issues/501 ?
@PeeHaa it's the use function..; there's another bug open about it I believe
I don't bitch about it constantly, in jest I bitch about it sometimes, and other times in response to our noticing that things are broken ...
09:59
@PaulCrovella I thought I searched before but couldn't find something related. Will search again
I swear I had it just the other day talking to wes.. i think

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