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7:00 PM
errrr
 
Stop breaking it damnit
 
remove 7 should have removed them up to !!uptime
 
:P
@Gordon wat
That's not how remove works :)
It removes @Jeeves' messages
 
oh
 
7:00 PM
Not random user messages
:-)
 
I see
 
So if we are spamming stuff like !!plugin list or whatever or try to use !!giphy and fail again we can just !!remove it
!!giphy fail
 
2 messages moved to Trash
 
No worries @JayIsTooCommon. I will just defend your work for you
 
so can we add a param to !!remove to allow all teh messages?
you know, for the help vampires
 
7:06 PM
We can. But do we really need that? ROs can delete if needed
 
but it's tedious :D
 
For the real vampires I can use @rlemon's delete user plugin
Sorry for pings lemon
 
you made it easy to move Jeeves messages. Now make it easy for me to move any messages
 
add !!clear to dump all of it
 
user895378
I feel like Jeeves could be used to emulate /kickban ...
 
user895378
7:08 PM
By auto-trashing banned users' messages
 
The thing is @rdlowrey it results in trash messages
 
user895378
:(
 
1 message moved to bin
 
user895378
you could couple it with a jeeves chrome extension to hide those messages from the dom :)
 
user895378
(too much work, I realize)
 
7:09 PM
Yeah. It's right up @DaveRandom's alley though
Bitches love extensions
 
user895378
Bitches certainly do.
 
Anybody here run the official Docker PHP images?
 
The only real solution which is a fucking retarded one is what JS does
If they still do it
Room is in gallery mode and they give people access
 
@taco me
 
meaning kickban just means removing access
 
7:11 PM
#CMD [ "php", "/opt/src/Bootstrap.php" ]
CMD [ "php" ]
@Gordon container stays running with second but not first.
I'm used to using something like nginx and supervisord. Not sure how to keep my app running with this PHP docker image....
 
user895378
It would be so trivial for SO to add that functionality too ...
 
Yeah, but it's chat. This shit doesn't make any fucking money
 
i'm surprised SO still runs chat at all
 
Which is a valid point
 
user895378
^ that
 
7:13 PM
If I exec into the Docker container and run "php /opt/src/Bootstrap.php" it obviously exits, but that's what the Dockerhub for the PHP image says to do for the RUN command: CMD [ "php", "/opt/src/Bootstrap.php" ]
 
@PeeHaa this chat system is better than slack (imho). If they'd monetised it and forget the stupid question and answer rubbish, they'd have way more revenue.
 
user895378
although they did at least invest in a better mobile chat interface in the last year. Used to be that if you tried to use chat on your phone it was total garbage
 
user895378
@Danack agree
 
user895378
this chat is better than slack
 
This message was sponsored by CocaCoLa light. CocaCola the refreshing drink
 
user895378
7:14 PM
yet slack gets all the monies
 
@taco umm, which images are we talking about? link?
 
ah, so you are extending the official ones.
I use them directly
 
I'm not extending it really, am I. I'm just doing that so I can copy my code into the image
Are you just using -v /opt while developing?
 
I don't use them for userland development. I use them as my build pipeline when developing php extensions.
 
7:18 PM
I'll happily use it the "official way"!
ah
 
@PeeHaa at least advertise and plug the links.
god man
so inconsiderate
 
Hey it's your time to shine
Also couldn't remember if it was on the chrome addon store thingy or I got it from the black market
 
@taco but when you run the bootstrap via CLI it will obviously exit unless the script is a long running process
 
Ah, so I guess they expect you to use the php Apache one if you're writing a www app
 
7:23 PM
Alternative link @Gordon cc @rlemon gist.github.com/rlemon/908c4699b85b67bc933e
 
user895378
@taco right
 
user895378
(or nginx)
 
@taco or fpm
 
I think I'd prefer to use an unofficial nginx one with supervisord then. Thanks for your help. @rdlowrey @Gordon
 
Such an artist
 
7:24 PM
 
@PeeHaa lol I forgot about that
 
@Gordon thanks.
 
@rlemon This would fit right into the fucking louvre
 
Anonymous
@Jeeves @PeeHaa @Gordon no this is right, it only stores the last 10 messages, you removed all 10 so now it doesn't have any more messages to remove
 
@JayIsTooCommon <html>
 
7:25 PM
> it's art
 
you arted
 
24 mins ago, by PeeHaa
No worries @JayIsTooCommon. I will just defend your work for you
Already got your back bruv
 
Anonymous
Thanks babe
 
Anonymous
That fucking Gordon always picking on me
 
Anonymous
Just because I'm fat.
 
7:27 PM
He's just a bully.
Just ignore him
 
it's not just because you're fat
 
:P
 
Anonymous
lol
 
@PeeHaa lol
 
@JayIsTooCommon not true. I try to evade you but I keep bumping into you with words… because you know… ah, you know… don't make me say it… full figure side… yaddayadda… pffff.
 
Anonymous
7:32 PM
Did you just have a stroke?
 
my hands are on the keyboard
 
hell of a trick
 
lol
 
7:47 PM
@PeeHaa I agree
 
See @rlemon. Even the french agree!
 
the french don't agree on things. you lie
 
In her defense
(and I don't sound french because I shower every morning)
 
lol
 
who the hell is this jeeves dude?
 
7:50 PM
@CapricaSix Bitch please
Don't think we can let them talk to eachother
 
bot war?
 
ow wait we can
!!tell jeeves he sucks
oh she's gone. Probably shy
 
you suck at vowels today
 
@PaulCrovella what ar you tolking aboot/
 
8:02 PM
2 messages moved to Trash
@Gordon ^
 
@MadaraUchiha pfffff
 
@kelunik Probably because of the react-promises branch. We should just delete that.
 
Hillary Catches Bill Staring at Ivanka Someone Is In TROUBLE! #PresidentTrump #AmericaFirst #Maka #Ivanka #POTUS… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/822514478528872448
 
@bwoebi Fixed. The merge was messy and I didn't have time to clean it up.
 
I loled
lolled even
lolllled too
 
8:08 PM
roflcopter
rotflmao
It's like being back on AOL 3 all over again
 
What's an AOL3?
 
Version of AOL i was most familiar with
America Online
 
I only know the one that died :P
@Fabor How's fapore doing btw nowadays
Don't see you that much anymore so that's probably good
 
ouch dude
 
Not bad, not a lot has changed. Been without internet for a bit.
 
8:14 PM
@PaulCrovella lol
yeah that's not what I meant :P
 
Now i have a house and internet i'll be more regular, unlike my stomach.
 
@Fabor Yeah those STDs are a pain so I have heard
 
Your mother is a wealth of experience, yes.
 
gee thanks. Just trying to make conversation here...
Didn't know you were going to be like that
 
@Crell it's the weekend of my wedding. So............. ;)
 
8:17 PM
Oh good for him
Although... isn't she a dba?
:P
 
Whut, batmax is getting married?
 
@JoeWatkins good thing he didn't schedule it for today
 
I feel like their child will be the beginning of the story that leads to the Matrix.
 
lol
 
@Fabor asl?
(late to the party)
 
8:22 PM
@Tyrael ping
 
@Tiffany That's what you get for still trying to use icq
 
@PeeHaa I still remember my ICQ number
78761879 something like that
 
lol you're weird :P
 
yup
I can remember my ICQ number, but I can't remember what I ate two days ago.
 
tbf over here we mostly did msn messenger
I only used icq contacting people outside of our borders
 
8:25 PM
I used like all four at the time
I couldn't get used to trillian
Then when Gaim came out, that became my new favorite messenger
 
Comparing Obama's 2009 #Inauguration crowd (top) to President Trump's (bottom). Images via AP… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/822539830970253314
gotta hurt a little ...
 
pictures taken at same times?
 
@JoeWatkins Wait wait wait
I just found a really funny comeback
 
@PeeHaa waits with anticipation
 
@Tiffany "at inauguration" ... guess so ...
 
8:27 PM
@JoeWatkins btw, what did you think of Mea's "brexit speach" ?
 
yeah fuck. The timeline moves too damn high
 
@JoeWatkins Well I mean, picture taken at the beginning of the inauguration, at the end?
I know so much about my own country
 
Sorry cannot find anymore
Blame the booze not me
 
@PeeHaa there, there
 
@Tiffany as said. ping the booze please
 
8:30 PM
/me is finishing up his first beer
 
awww cute :P
Goddamnit. Twitter is such a shit service
 
I wish I could have beer
@PeeHaa @tereško drink one for me :P
 
Done
:P
 
@tereško it was a politicians speech ... so the words don't carry much weight ... nevertheless I was glad to hear someone finally say that realistically we cannot have the same access to the single market, I liked the broader focus on international trade, but I don't know if any of it is worth anything until she can get EU politicians to agree to anything she has said, or wants to do ...
 
I'm out people. Cannot focus on anything will try drinking more. If I make it back I am sorry in adavnce
 
8:34 PM
lata
 
@PeeHaa cheers
 
@PeeHaa you will be
 
@Tiffany it doesn't matter ... I hate him ... that's all that matters ... me ...
 
@JoeWatkins my main takeaway was: "people who keep asking us to publish, what out goals and strategy are for the negotiations are, obviously do not understand how negotiations work"
 
@JoeWatkins I hate him too. I just want to share the image guilt-free, because I will hear counter-arguments.
 
8:36 PM
@tereško "Mea"? As in culpa? :-P
 
@DaveRandom as in prime minister of UK
 
Trump or May. Now we have both. What a time to be alive.
 
Oh right well she is called "May" but I think I'm going to start writing "Mea"
 
I spell her name with a C
 
@Fabor Farage May Trump.
In fact I'm willing to bet he frequently does.
 
8:38 PM
@Fabor why?
she got handed a shit-basket
 
Snooper stuff
 
@tereško I don't know how much of the UK news gets beyond our borders, but there is a Scottish politician taking every opportunity to whip up another independence ref for Scotland, a totally pointless thing to do ... she said as much as she needed to shut that particular politician up for a little while I think ... the fact is that none of them do know how this kind of negotiation works, not even the people who are charged with responsibility of conducting it ...
everyone is just left grinding their own axe
 
@JoeWatkins The replies to that tweet. Some of them are funny, some of them are "oh god."
 
@tereško She has been championing a lot of fucking retarded things for much longer than that
 
@Fabor good point ... though I am not sure it wasnt in the works long before here term
 
Hey everyone, I'm making a basic webpage using no frameworks or anything (bootsrap only) how can I have a template for my page? when I click on the link only the main body loads and not the header or footer of mine.
 
@tereško yes, it has been in the works for ages in a couple of different forms, and she has been behind it since the get-go
 
@DaveRandom since you are native, I will defer to your expertise on the subject
 
@qaispak Will you be using PHP?
 
@qaispak what template, where?
 
8:42 PM
@tereško Well I don't know about that but I do know that it's the main reason I'd ever even heard of her before the recent tory leadership contest
 
@DaveRandom from what I have heard, your political system has become a little bit fucked up
 
@qaispak can you post code to pastebin/gist or something?
 
@Tiffany I am only doing front end right now so no php or any language right now.
post code for what?
 
although I am inclined to agree with you that she gets a lot of somewhat undeserved flak over Brexit, she campaigned for remain and she really is trapped between a pile of turd and a bigger pile of turd
 
The page that you said isn't loading your header or footer.
Also, you may have better luck in the HTML/CSS chatroom
 
8:43 PM
No I haven't made the page yet. I am just asking how I would do this.
 
So a turd between two turds.
 
@qaispak It's not trivial
 
The Third Turd
 
> when I click on the link only the main body loads and not the header or footer of mine.
 
@MadaraUchiha is there any resource you can direct me to/
 
8:44 PM
Turdresa May
 
@Tiffany sorry I phrased it wrong. I want the main body to load but header and footer to stay there, no loaded.
 
Ahhh.
 
@Fabor seriously though, at least it's not BoJo in charge#
 
@qaispak Your best bet is to have the entire page reload, and just make sure the header and the footer are there on every page.
That can be done with PHP templates quite easily.
 
Eh, EotD, aside from crippling my savings in the form of currency exchange rates I try not to think about it.
 
8:45 PM
@DaveRandom on the other hand, your Labor party is longing for the return of Blair and it seems like Corbin is the only left-leaning one in the entire party ... then again, here is not so much "leaning" as "far entrenched"
 
@MadaraUchiha the header wont reload will it?
 
@qaispak check out no framework PHP, excellent tutorial on how to get a site up and running
 
@qaispak It would.
 
I like Boris Johnson ...
 
kinda like a mascot for Labor party
 
8:46 PM
@MadaraUchiha then that wont really good look
 
@tereško Labour is a lost cause right now
 
s/labour/*/
 
UKIP :D
 
@qaispak An alternative is to use some sort of client-side routing
And change the center of the page with JavaScript
And finally, you can use iframes
 
AJAX or some kind of asynchronous calls
(I think)
 
8:47 PM
may was home secretary before all of this happened, she's had her finger in many nasty pies, not just the snoopers bill ...
 
@MadaraUchiha also eval and document.write
 
@JoeWatkins affable != competent
 
@kelunik haven't looked at it, was more a star and look at it when I get home :X
 
@tereško Go away
Frankly, to keep it simple, I'd just have the entire page reload. If your website is simple enough and doesn't have a lot of resources, it won't be as noticeable and you don't really need the extra complexity.
 
@DaveRandom name a competent one
 
8:48 PM
@MadaraUchiha yeah but I wanna learn how to do this
 
@qaispak Fair enough
 
@tereško Do they also need to be alive?
 
practically it's not like anyone is gonna visit my website
 
@DaveRandom yes, and also active in politics ... as in you should be able to vote for that person next time
 
Is there a front-end library/methodology that allows creating a header/footer that can be included across multiple HTML files?
 
8:48 PM
@DaveRandom he is not the bumbling idiot he pretends to be, at all ..
 
Well, on the simplest level, what you do is load the page normally initially, and then when someone clicks a link, you send an AJAX request to the server for just the part of the page you need, then you replace the center with JavaScript.
 
@JoeWatkins s/pretends/is being portraid by Guardian as
 
@Tiffany PHP?
 
@MadaraUchiha I see. I guess since I don't have a backend yet it makes it kind of different.
 
@JoeWatkins No indeed, that's the scary part.
 
8:50 PM
@qaispak Well, you can do content replacement without a backend
Assuming you have all the content already in your HTML page
 
@tereško yeh I got nothing
 
Then it's just a matter of deciding which div to show on the screen
 
it wouldn't be fair to call him incompetent either ... I think he's perfectly competent, as a politician ... but he is a politician, an indelible blight on ones character ... and as a leader, we will never know, but not because of anything he failed at, or shortcomings he has ... because of other politicians ...
 
I mean I live in a bullet-proof safe Lab seat anyway
 
@DaveRandom :D
 
8:52 PM
wow I cannot believe how much I don't miss fucking around with domain transfers
 
@Dereleased That's back-end. 😛 With frameworks and shit made from Javascript for the past five years or so, wasn't sure if there was a methodology or framework that did the same as include() or require(). You'd think it'd be in Angular or something. Or do they still need a back-end language somewhere?
 
ah so you're going to google domains ?
I should have got a referral link or something :D
 
Yes, I already did my .com, I'm just doing room11.org
 
it "just works" right ? I very like it ...
 
@Tiffany It's something that really makes more sense on the backend, I think, stitching together pages
 
8:54 PM
well I have to wait for 123-reg to actually do the transfer, I think that means a human needs to look at it
 
Sort-of human at 123-reg
 
@Dereleased I don't disagree, but I do think it would be nice to be able to do without the need for a web server, in the case of a small website used only for very small things
 
@DaveRandom follows is the "csv export" from godaddy to do my transfer
DomainName,TLD,ExpirationDate,Status,Privacy,Locked,AuthorizationCode
"KRAKJOE.NINJA",".ninja","06/12/2017","Active","Public","Unlocked","some junk"

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head id="Head1"><title>
	Download Now
</title></head>
<body>
  <form method="post" action="./DownloadNow.aspx?DownloadId=d41rWdAOhyznVVFRV3AR78YpWenZcy1uSV%2b%2bs1dPuSjsKMlfwZy9qAqJJMV4UWWD&amp;isc=gdbba773&amp;" id="form1" style="text-align: left; width: 100%">
that's it ... verbatim (nearly) ... with a PAGE OF FUCKING HTML IN IT
 
@Dereleased e.g. I used to build websites in high school so I could get out of making powerpoint presentations. BUT, my websites would have more than one page, and Geocities didn't have back-end language support back then. I had to copy/paste, and my code would become a mess.
 
that was the last interaction I will ever have with godaddy ... pretty obviously a bunch of total idiots ...
 
8:57 PM
(That was honestly one of the best decisions I made in high school, I wouldn't have the job I have now, if I never forced myself to learn HTML/CSS for funsies and avoid using powerpoint. It was also self-taught. There were no web dev classes in high school.)
 
I downloaded it several times, it came with the markup in it every time ... total, total idiots ...
 
@JoeWatkins lol classic missing exit;
 
@Tiffany you are oooooold
 
@tereško Yup. That was around '03-'05 :P
@tereško I TURN 30 THIS YEAR D:
 
Wow you are nearly dead
 
9:00 PM
:( damn ... I'm still older
 
me too
 
yes I think most of us are
Except @JayIsTooCommon, who is 12
 
@JoeWatkins My dad uses godaddy and doesn't see anything wrong with it. I am trying my hardest to convince him to switch to bluehost or something else. He MIGHT switch when his service agreement runs out...hopefully...
 
is it just me or developers are actually getting older as a group?
I mean, I have worked in 7 different places and everyone always has been around my age
 
9:01 PM
@tereško I thought you were like 22 or something.
 
@JoeWatkins I love this so much
 
that was a joke, by outrageous comedian Frankie Boyle, about the queen ... but that clip is funnier ...
 
@Tiffany off by ten years
 
@tereško o.o wow.
 
it's like they have stopped producing developers or something
@Tiffany though that picture is like 5 years old
 
9:02 PM
still though
 
@DaveRandom yeah, hilarious stuff ...
 
there was a lot of gold-standard news footage produced by the brand/ross thing
 
@Tiffany actually co-workers at my current workplace had a quite similar impression
 
@tereško FWIW, I don't look my age either, I also don't act my age. Most of the time I am an oversized child.
 
^ that's hoe most of developers are
 
9:04 PM
My mom was in her 40s, and she still got carded
 
:D
here is hoping we all live till life extension options become affordable
 
life extension options?
 
I'm going to be uploaded to the internet at the earliest opportunity ... just don't let me end up on php systems ... I might as well be dead ...
 
"telomere lengthening", "stem therapy", "bone marrow replacement" (those are one currently undergoing human-trials)
@JoeWatkins yeeeaa-no, that's dying and a copy of you living on
"mind upload" has the same problem as "teleportation"
 
or a copy of me sometimes being available, with long periods of unavailability that nobody knows how to fix ...
well not exactly ... teleportation requires the destruction of the living thing ... I could be uploaded and continue to live ...
 
9:09 PM
yeah, but you would begin diverging almost immediately
 
perhaps, but would still be me, probably a more useful, more reliable me ... it's not like I would suddenly love javascript ...
 
@JoeWatkins have you read Chasm City?
 
I have not
 
then I dont have a good example to give you
 
If you uploaded yourself would it really be you or just a copy?
 
9:12 PM
@Fabor copy, which begins changing into someone else
.. unless you are one of those delusional people who believe in soul
 
I don't get the logic of that, why would I change any more than the living me might change ?
 
@JoeWatkins because it would have different sensory input
 
it's rather a leap to say that sensory input defines self, it may effect it in some discrete way ... but it can't define it ...
 
are you stating that your personality is not affected by your experience?
 
sure, but we're not running from the beginning of the program .... there's no blank slate, we are already starting with me, who has certain likes and dislikes, certain things about self that are so deeply engrained that the potential for divergence is surely limited by that ...
 
9:17 PM
Just feel like it wouldn't be like a transfer of my conscious. Would be just a copy then delete the original.
 
if you could speak to a 5-years-younger-you, would you both agree on relationships, politics, social subjects?
what about 8 years?
what about 1?
 
maybe not, but if you could speak to a 5-years-older-me, or 10, or 20, it's likely there would be a lot of agreement, if not total agreement ... I can't see those things changing because they are already so deeply engrained, some of them were when I was 18, or 15 ...
 
but when you would become a different person?
 
(before that I don't really remember, I don't really remember 15 actually)
 
would having one tiny "but" on a thing you agree mostly with your 10-hours-older-you mean that you are not the same person ?
 
9:22 PM
I dunno, I think I change a lot. Mostly from experiences.
Some self reflection, some brute thought.
 
it may mean I'm a different person, but the electronic me and me would have the same potential for divergence is what I'm saying, they wouldn't be so radically different that they could be considered separate beings ... I'm not saying that there would be no divergence, but that the potential for that is limited and presumably equal between electronic me, and me ...
 
nature vs nurture.
 
@Tiffany I turned 30 last year, you'll survive
 
@JoeWatkins ok, lets presume the digital-you has exactly the same path of personality development as you .... what if digital-you this 10x slower than you? What if he thinks 10'000x faster than you?
 
You could always write a framework that renders your content into a predefined template after an AJAX call
 
9:31 PM
@tereško then it would be legitimate to question if that was even me though, right ?
 
and, @JoeWatkins, why do you assume that the digital-you would only have access to the same types of sensory-input as you? What if he can share thoughts with the digital-Hawkins ?
@JoeWatkins well .. it would be a faster or slower copy of you .. but after 30 minutes if you real-time, the 10000x faster digital-you would have lived 200-ish days
 
faster means enhanced here, if all things are not equal then it's too hard to model .... if you could enhance the meaty squishy me to process at the same rate, then all things are equal again and the potential for divergence is too ... an enhanced me may very well be different ...
 
@Dereleased I know. I just remember when my parents were 30. They had their life together. I don't.
but I guess the important thing is, I'm getting there.
 
I'm not conscious ... solved ...
 
Wes
9:41 PM
evenings
 
Hi, anybody can give me an help to this question thanks! stackoverflow.com/questions/41772291/…
 
@JoeWatkins it's an interesting thing to think about
 
@tereško yeah, it is
 
@JoeWatkins there is also this video, if you really want to get uncertain
 
9:58 PM
yeah now my head hurts ...
also, I'm off to bed ... or death ... whatever, I'll be back in the morning ... nn all
 
fascinating
nn
 
@JoeWatkins im not sure whats wrong with that travis-ci.org/travis-ci/php-src-builder/jobs/193544776 but i cant find the causing code in the php-src repo.... (thats the problem why we have an outdated php-nightly for ui)
 
Wes
@Ocramius do you often generate php code at runtime? how bad it is? e.g. generating a class within an autoloader eval("class Whatever...."); worried about performance, mostly
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom 13 soon
 
10:51 PM
Hi guys, is it possible to automatically add an instance to a class when calling the class, thus: I do not require to do xHelper($pdo) every single time.
I had an script and I thought it worked before but when testing now (and I really need it) it doesn't.

I used an call_user_func_array() in an autoloader to addDb($pdo); in the class...
however now when setting the property, it blames me that I am using $this in a non object context -.-
 
Wes
@MikeM. search about dependency injection and understand why its alternatives are bad idea. then check github.com/rdlowrey/auryn. it is a tool that does all the "object wiring" automatically (such as, injecting pdo to your classes automagically)
 
The problem is, I may not use external sources for this project...
it's an assessment, however it really got me stuck on, well, sucks to be me, but I guess I have to build it back to using the constructor...
 
Wes
you can avoid auryn if you want, but you can look up what dependency injection is
 

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