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8:00 PM
The swift keyboard thing is nice(ish)
 
@Fabor I always forget to use that. It's indeed kinda nice
 
Good for when one hand is occupied.
 
I will wait one more day to respond to that one
 
^^
or just when you are lazy af
 
8:03 PM
!!should I fix the guide or make music?
 
You should fix the guide.
 
Seems like @Jeeves is going to the junk.
 
Ekn
!!should he listen you?
 
Dunno.
 
@Jeeves But I hate sysadmining!
 
8:04 PM
!!should a wood pecker peck if a wood pecker could peck wood
 
Dunno.
 
Thanks @Ekn
 
Ekn
de nada
 
!!dad
 
What do you call a pony with a sore throat? A little horse
 
8:06 PM
What do you call a deer with no eyes? No eye deer
 
@Jeeves ?
 
this is a dumb question, I apologize. I'm trying to import a database in phpmyadmin from one server to another server. the import function keeps giving a 404 error. the sql file is approx. 44 MB, but I have the php.ini set to accept files up to 50MB. I tried zipping the sql file, still getting a 404. What could I be missing?
 
I think I am missing it
 
@PeeHaa yeah, what does that even mean?
 
@Tiffany Can you access the db through CLI?
 
8:07 PM
 
!!urban little horse
 
whatchoo talkin bout willis
 
no idea
 
phew. I was fearing for the worse
 
little horse = sore throat
 
8:08 PM
!!dad
 
Can February March? No, but April May
 
My throat feels "a little horse"
 
That's.... just odd
 
scratchy or dry usually
 
@Fabor log into mysql on the server, then what would I do to access it as a .sql file?
 
8:08 PM
How the hell did you guys come up with that? Makes you wonder...
 
Ekn
!!should I get a beer or have some wine?
 
speaking of scratchy or dry, I started watching Mad Max Fury Road during my lunch
 
You should have some wine.
 
Don't get addicted to water
 
8:09 PM
refills water bottle
thanks @Fabor
 
Listening to @Ekn's dilemma makes me think Jeeves needs a "Why not both?" answer
 
Ekn
Let's help him keep us saner, shall we on this?
 
So, I work at a community college, and fall semester started this week. I'm the advisor for an anime/gaming club. Today's the first meeting for the semester. This'll be fun.
 
@PeeHaa this on is a lot better: i.imgur.com/wJ5fcq8.png
 
Sanity? What's that.
 
8:11 PM
@Ekn I must say I... agree
 
@tereško Much better. ty
 
frantically searches for this "the point vs you" drawing
 
frantically
hmm apparent frenetically works too
 
I see you're trying to usurp my title of Capt'n Buttman. Good luck with that
 
You'll always be my Buttman Felix
 
8:13 PM
ffs... :D
 
Y'know, I say a lot of homoerotic things on this very public chat. I should tone it down a little.
 
you do seem to have some kind of a thing for Daniel
 
Unrequited love
 
@Fabor, in reference to the guide you sent, it says mysql database_name < database_exportname.sql ... how do I find out where mysql's directory is pointed to so that I know it's importing the right file
?
 
unre- what?
 
8:15 PM
unrequited
:P
 
!!? unrequited
 
Search for "unrequited" (https://www.google.com/search?q=unrequited&lr=lang_en)
• Urban Dictionary: unrequited love - Unrequited Love. Its the feeling of being completely, hopelessly, desperately in love with someone,… (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unrequited%20love)
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• Unrequited | Define Unrequited at Dictionary.com - Unrequited definition, not returned or reciprocated: un
 
@Tiffany Whut? You dump out to a file. Then import that same file to the other DB.
 
I already have an export
 
Okay, so just import it with the other DB connections
 
8:17 PM
@LeviMorrison I can do such scans very easily. Just give me a name and output format in case you're interested.
 
@kelunik I'm just not sure what projects to point it at.
I've pulled out an example or two from the link you sent earlier.
 
Just added these few lines to an existing tool:
if ($node instanceof Node\Expr\Closure && !empty($node->uses)) {
    if (stripos($this->file, "test") === false && count($node->stmts) === 1) {
        print $this->file . ":" . $node->getAttribute("startLine") . "-" . $node->getAttribute("endLine") . PHP_EOL;
    }
}
 
I guess I'm lost on the "other DB connections" part
 
mysql -h <host> -u <user> -p < file.sql
 
Sorry @kelunik. I'm lazy. Can I tell acme client to output debug data when using auto?
 
8:21 PM
@PeeHaa Currently not.
 
but do I need to give a path to the file.sql?
 
oh :(
 
Same path you used on the dump
 
I used phpmyadmin for the dump :/
 
If you point to a file without sql it wont break anything so give it a wangle
!!urban wangle
 
8:21 PM
[ wangle ] A medieval folk dance as stated by Richard Richard of the tv show 'Bottom'
 
rofl
except I'm exporting from one server, and importing into a new server
 
what do you mean by server?
 
different VMs
 
Can you connect to the DB on the other VM from the CLI you dumped to?
 
uhhhhhh
I'm having trouble visualizing that, let me grab scratch paper
 
8:25 PM
Where are these VMs hosted?
 
for having English as my first language, I'm pretty shit at reading comprehension. I blame it on ADHD.
on-site
 
Nah, tis fine. We all get this way with jargon
Okay the credentials you use to connect to the DB you're importing to. You know them?
Hostname, User, Pass
 
@PeeHaa What's wrong?
 
the server I did the mysqldump, I did not use CLI, I used phpmyadmin, because (this is what I was told, so I'm just following a procedure) I need "disable foreign key check" and "add DROP TABLE / PROCEDURE / etc... in the export, and phpmyadmin makes it easier
yes
 
@kelunik I haven't pinged you yet because I am sure I am being stupid, but since you pinged me back :)
 
8:27 PM
granted, the exports I do, are just an extra form of back up, so the disable foreign key check may be tripping up the new server
 
# cat /etc/acme-client.yml
 
Okay, so on the server in CLI where the .sql file is. Connect to the other database "mysql -h hostname -u user -p".
 
I have the .sql file on the desktop of the new server
 
replace the hostname with your credentials
 
# Storage directory for certificates and keys.
storage: /etc/acme

# Server to use. URL to the ACME directory.
# "letsencrypt" and "letsencrypt:staging" are valid shortcuts.
server: letsencrypt

# E-mail to use for the setup.
# This e-mail will receive expiration notices from Let's Encrypt.
email: redacted@redacted.org

certificates:
  - bits: 4096
    paths:
      /srv/www/blog.room11.org:
        - blog.room11.org
      /srv/www/guide.room11.org:
        - guide.room11.org
 
8:28 PM
windows desktop
of my user profile
 
Does that look ok to you @kelunik
 
@Tiffany Ugh GUI.
In Ubuntus shell CD to the desktop
 
When I run auto nothing happens (guide is not being created)
 
@PeeHaa Looks fine I think.
@PeeHaa Yeah, known bug. Have a look in the issue list. Just delete the certificate (not the key, just the cert.pem) and rerun it.
 
> If a domain is added to an existing configuration, but the certificate is still valid, the certificate isn't renewed to include the new name yet.
Just found it :P
 
8:30 PM
@Fabor yeah, I know :( I'm on a WIMP environment
it's wimpy
 
do you all work as developers for a living, or are you students/hobbiest?
 
i'm logged into mysql
 
\o/ stacktrace
 
web admin/developer/devops/qa/trainer/whatever the fuck is asked of me
 
@Tiffany On the command line?
 
8:31 PM
@Fabor yes
 
does work allow you to answer questions and be on SO while at work?
 
of the new web server
 
@Tiffany You've logged in to the "other" DB from the command line?
Right so instead of logging in do the import < file.sql
 
@rabbitguy depends. I use SO to ask questions for when I can't figure something out myself, and I know there are smarter people than me that can. Sometimes I answer a question, but I don't devote a lot of time to it because I have a to-do list a mile long. :(
 
you @work right now?
 
8:33 PM
yup
 
I'm asking bcz my boss jumped my case for answering a question while at work yesterday and commenting on (ready) 15 separate posts over an 8 hour work day
 
careful, seems @rabbitguy is from some kindof secret service watching you
 
@Fabor is helping me with a problem I'm encountering because I know fuck-all and he's amazing
 
lol
 
He is humble too
 
8:34 PM
:P
 
I upgraded my joke.
 
I think my boss doesn't understand, but interacting on SO helps a developer stay sharp in not only his or her own questions, but in helping others also keeps them sharp
 
@rabbitguy I think it depends on how much time you devote to it, and if you're behind on work. If you're caught up, then I don't see it as a big deal. If you're behind on a project, then you should be working on that project.
 
I turned in a project he is considering completed a MONTH ahead of time, and yet he got mad anyway
 
@rabbitguy Tell him it's like having other devs in the office to help bounce problems off. When we're not making fun of each other.
 
8:36 PM
^
 
@rabbitguy Who gave the time estimate?
 
he did
 
@Fabor other devs who are all smarter than you
s/you/me|us
 
my supervisor and boss aren't developers. I'm basically the only developer on my team, so having others to communicate with when I have problems is a HUGE help
 
Yeah :( those smart wankers
 
8:37 PM
but they understand that, because I've explained it to them.
granted I imply that I'm asking for help
 
I am trying to explain that good developers I've found tend to be going 1,000,000 miles an hour in 80 different directions, and yet he thinks that is not correct... of course, he can't develop HelloWorld.cpp, but he thinks he knows how we think
 
because I'm stuck and I need help
I sent my supervisor the maker vs manager story
 
I can't snack at my desk bcz he thinks that is distracting, nor can I listen to music. He's blocked wiki bcz he saw me looking up something not work related in my history
 
the fuck
 
lol. New job time
 
8:38 PM
do you need that job?
I'd run like the wind
 
yes, I do...
 
not being able to listen to music while working === I can't work
 
I am a single parent with two kids, a house payment, and student loans totaling 50K USD to pay off
 
what I mean is, can you find another developer job?
 
I am a musician in my off time. I play cello, sing, play guitar
 
8:39 PM
Everything should be goal orientated IMO. Hit your deadlines and it doesn't matter if you spent 80% of the time looking at cat photos.
 
not in this town, at least not right now
 
cause it sounds like where you're working right now has crappy rules
 
@Fabor yes, well, he doens't see it that way
 
freelance if you can, then
find telecommute jobs off craigslist (ACTUALLY DON'T DO THAT.... THAT'S A BAD IDEA)
 
@rabbitguy not sure if things still happen over there, but some years ago worklist.net seemed pretty good to get money from home
hummm wait wrong domain
2 sec
 
8:41 PM
If I can find the job I'll just walk in and give him my corp cellphone and leave... No exit interview. No explanation. Nothing
 
oh no, that's right. they just changed their branding
it's not a job as is, and you are not sure to get the work, as it is a bidding system, but they pay
 
I can't even get to linkdin here...
he blocks that as it is not "business related"
though he can and does get to it all day long
 
Meh, LinkedIIn is balls
 
"do as I say, not as I do" kinda boss...
 
he sounds like an asshole
 
8:43 PM
s/sounds like/is
 
this is an electric company I work for. Previous guy had zero development training, and his code was poor and based on .NET which I loath..
 
this is why people get their game reviews on youtube: youtube.com/watch?v=4KIWlcckW0s
 
so first project was to create a system that allowed local users to tell a web app when a certain amount of ppl were without power, text them, then they go to a website to get further details..
that's how I learned PHP, heh
I am the only developer here...
 
my supervisor used to be the same way, but she's changed over the years and has improved. I came close to losing my job more than once, but I had undiagnosed mental illnesses at the time that were untreated that made work an absolute bitch. getting those treated made a difference. TL;DR I'm fucking grateful I still have my job.
 
Got that project done in two months, which I think was pretty good considering I have never worked in the electric industry b4. I had no idea how that db was setup, how PHP could communicate w/a sql server, how to blend php/html5/css together, et al...
 
8:45 PM
@rabbitguy "here" as "in this chat room"... that;s a bold statement
 
that may have been a mistake... if it's your first project, don't get it done as fast as you can
 
Your keyboard is drunk too now
 
no no
in this company
sorry
 
especially if you're working for someone that doesn't understand time tables for development
ahhh
get a project done as fast as you can as your first project == that becomes the expectation and if you slip up... well either shit hits the fan, or you get a peptalk
 
I hear @PeeHaa's boss is a real butthole.
 
8:47 PM
he is
 
@Tiffany I'm bipolar and have epilepsy, so that doesn't help, I'm sure, but I am medicated
 
I have ADHD and BPD :P
I'm a fun mix of mental health
 
BPD?! Ouch! that's a rough one there
 
@PeeHaa windows has given me some strange "latvian standard" layout, which is a combination of all three major latvian layouts
 
well, bipolar disorder
 
8:47 PM
it's a fucking disaster
 
oh... I thought you meant boardline personality disorder
 
@tereško lol that's just bad :P
 
you and I have BD
 
oooh, no :P
I didn't know the exact abbreviation so I've just called it BPD, didn't know that was another disorder
 
I took psychology in college because I already knew I was messed up in the head then, but the mania didn't show up until last year
 
8:48 PM
@Tiffany I like cats
.. this is a bonding moment
 
@tereško I have two
@tereško they're fuzzy and I don't give them enough attention :(
which makes me sad
 
There's user groups for PHP and mental health you know.
 
regardless, here's my boss in a nutshell. I had a seizure one night, had to go to the hospital. My mother picks me up at 2am. I get out of the ER at 11 and get to work by 1pm missing a company wide meeting that morning. I bring papers from the ER to show I was there, he pulls me in his office and says, "[this company] doesn't have epilepsy, so if this is gonna be a problem, you may need to find another job."
I have never been so shocked in my life
and he will never have my respect because of that comment too
 
wow
fuck that guy
@Fabor mysql database_name < database_name082416.sql; I received error 1064
 
8:51 PM
@rabbitguy at least the stupid is not transmitted by contact
 
@Fabor I think @Tiffany and I just made on ehere
@tereško I dunno... my bipolar has gotten worse in the last six months... maybe his stupid is translating to bad mania and depression?
 
@tereško contagious
 
sounds like your boss thinks that "epilepsy" is a type of "headache"
 
I did some stupid things a few months ago while manic, lol
 
anxiety can make it worse
 
8:52 PM
@Tiffany No, you need to use "-h" and "-u"
 
which is why I have xanax
 
Look at the example I gave you
 
OH
 
I've never wished to have a seizure, but if I ever have another one, I want to be in front of him when it happens bcz he's told me straight up that he's never seen someone have a seizure before
 
.... now I feel dumb
 
8:53 PM
@Tiffany I vape CBD oils for my anxiety
 
I'll write down what you said, I have to get ready for my cluuuuuub
I just have pills
 
and it also keeps my seizures at bay and seems to help out with IBS, too :D
 
-h is host address, the IP or something of your other vm db
-u is the username
 
cause I live in a state where marijuana is still illegal and I don't want to take chances
yeah
 
-p means ask for a password
 
8:53 PM
I know what the flags do, just didn't click that I needed to do it all in one line
 
@Tiffany Its illegal here too, but CBD oils are legal in all 50 states
but before this job I self medicated my epilepsy with marijuana in college, yes
 
@Fabor why are you explaining "man mysql" ?
 
@tereško I am filled with dumb, that's why.
 
@tereško ^
 
@Tiffany some day when you have some time if you want to know more about CBD oils feel free to ask me. It's really been my saving grace here in the office
you obviously know what they are if you mentioned that marijuana isn't legal in your state
 
8:55 PM
@rabbitguy I appreciate the offer, but the treatment I'm using now works. I don't want to throw a wrench into it.
 
evening room
 
plus THC can have weird long-term effects with ADHD
I'd rather avoid it.
 
@pinepain can you explain, what manipulations one has to do the feel pain from interaction with pines
 
@Tiffany nope. you don't definitely. Glad you have something that does work
 
8:57 PM
... you might think though the implications of your nick name
 
No THC in CBD oils...
 
well, something with cannabinoids
 
What do you prefer: std C++ classes & containers with it dtors or C struct with standalone function which takes that struct as an argument?
 
it was a study I read that discussed the long-term effects of marijuana on adult ADHD
basically made adult ADHD worse in the long term
 
cyall later, getting back home
 
8:58 PM
anyway, I have to get ready for a meeting. it was pleasant chatting with you @rabbitguy. Thank for your help, @Fabor.
 
@tereško ;) have not idea. That was in some google search output many years ago as a response to my dumb search query
 
You too, @Tiffany. Thank you all for validating my view point, regardless if I will ever see satisfaction here in the office from it
 
Sayonara
 
@tereško like this - imgur.com/a/dmlWz
 
@Fabor that is usually followed by a loud noise
 
9:00 PM
@tereško heh
 
that ^ google suggestion made my day, original search phrase supposed to sth like "how to handle holidays during sprint planning in JIRA" but google really knows what I need
if someone feel string desire to give a look how bad I am in C++ there is a pretty good chance to do that - github.com/pinepain/php-v8/commit/…
 
Ever played an anime game @tereško?
 
Ekn
speaking of.. I bet you haven't seen/read code geass yet @tereško
 
@Fabor if Summoner does not count, then actually - no
@Ekn havent seen any anime for months
@Fabor is there anything worth putting on a wishlist?
 
Yeah I think I may draw the line at games. They look a bit... :-/
 
Ekn
9:06 PM
shame.gif
 
!!giphy shame
 
These are never usually relevant
 
Ekn
But you sure scratched some manga.
 
I have bought "Killer is Dead" ... which might count
 
9:09 PM
Is anything good actually coming out?
 
@Fabor only unreleased game in my wishlist is Prey
 
Oh I meant anime/manga.
Don't suppose you saw Netflix's Ajin?
 
dunno ... I have been reading Douluo Dalu 2 (which might turn out to be yaoi, in which case I will be sad) and Noblesse
that's about it
 
@bwoebi / @kelunik how can I find out why amphp File put fails?
 
basically, there is nothing to read, @Fabor
 
9:13 PM
You might like Ajin
 
all the actually interesting mangas are on monthly schedule :(
 
:( Feels like I wait so long and it's over too quick.
 
@Fabor I have been just reading proper books
just finished "The 48 Laws of Power" .. it was good
 
Eh, I got plenty of those. That'll be most of my life for the coming weeks I imagine.
"The Name of the Wind" was amazing though
 
@Fabor I can recommend you some book series (mostly urban fantasy and sci fi)
 
9:16 PM
I'll ask again once I am finished my current list. Shouldn't be too long honeslty
 
Ekn
I started listening leviathan wakes yesterday, it's going as good as it was mentioned
 
:D
 
Random question. How'd you get that scar?
 
Ekn
Who, me?
/me couldn't follow
 
Open question, whoever wishes to answer. Scars can tell interesting stories
 
9:26 PM
he can't be talking about me: only scar I have is not visible and I have no fucking idea how I got it
 
Ekn
I have one that is from a very depressive time.
 
I am an atheist, cutting myself is against my principles
 
Ekn
Mine's not a cut either.
 
hmm
 
Ekn
In short I didn't want to continue living.
 
9:29 PM
I will refer you to my previous statemnt
 
@rabbitguy Not sure where you live but if it's in the US that would be medical discrimination which is not generally allowed.
To be clear that is unlawful discrimination.
 
Ekn
@tereško there are moments that may make one disregard any principle
 
Anonymous
@tereško I'm confused, what does self harming have to do with atheism?
 
@JayIsTooCommon since there is no afterlife or reincarnation, trying to kill yourself is a really bad idea
you dont get a "second chance"
 
Anonymous
I mean I don't know anything about this stuff but I don't think the afterlife and reincarnation is a common factor in those situations :p
 
9:38 PM
@Ekn You're (somewhat) better now? Not exactly a straight line to stability but maybe the waves are a little less turbulent?
 
@JayIsTooCommon neither do I, because I honestly cant even empathize .. maybe I have lived a very sheltered life
 
@tereško Mystery scar? Did you wake up in a bathtub of ice too?
 
Ekn
Yes that was years ago
 
Good good :)
 
Ekn
I guess the fact that I answered kinda proves it
 
9:41 PM
@Fabor I know that I have had that scare since age of ~15 (I dont have sold memories before that), and since my mother is a general physician, she would know about any injuries before that, which could have caused a 3-4cm scar on torso. She has no idea.
it's either aliens or me being a sneaky bastard and self-medicating before age of 15
 
Definitely black market organ victim.
 
Anonymous
@tereško Maybe :) it's mad how much of a problem mental health is. Apparently it's quite a big problem among developers as well - but I think that's more related to the kind of life that leads many people to coding :P
 
by last count - I have all my OEM parts
 
Anonymous
@Fabor you have ice burn scars ?
 
@Ekn Indeed it does. These kind of things need to be spoken about more openly. Remove the taboo feeling so people know it's okay and they're not alone.
@JayIsTooCommon Not me, @tereško is the victim
From what I am imagining he woke up in a bathtub of ice with a scar and one less kidney.
 
9:44 PM
I am definetly not a victim
 
Anonymous
@Fabor This. The guy with a beard (can't remember his username) summed it up well the other day about people saying 'this isn't the place for it' 'conversation is boring etc..' When talking about racism? I think.. Same concept applies here
 
Anonymous
@Fabor kinda slow tonight..
 
@NikiC I've been playing with not nesting my structures so much and have some sad results to report. I've been using Map, doing a million `put` ops using random ints, 50 trials averaged. Instead of `php_ds_map->ds_map->table` I've managed to get `&php_ds_map->table` to work, so the table is part of the struct not just referenced within. This is as good as it'll get short of completely embedding the table stuff directly in `php_ds_map` which is a step too far imo.

Unfortunately, the performance increase timewise is around ~1ms over 1M items. While I'll still make some of these changes to re
 
hello
 
@JayIsTooCommon It's a little contextual but sure :P
 
9:46 PM
I want to use curl so I have --proxy-user user:password
but where is my user and password?
 
Anonymous
:P
 
wut
 
wat
 
also, @JayIsTooCommon, you killed the conversation ... now you have to deal with the supposedly-on-topic questions as your penance
 
I got just 585 pings in one week… nice
 
9:54 PM
 
Anonymous
@tereško I killed it?
 
@LeviMorrison it was just him and me behind closed doors when he said that, however, I have approached a lawyer already about other actions of his and upper management and we are just trying to find other employees there who have had to deal with the same thing...
 
Anonymous
@tereško You're the like the most blunt human being on this earth, you can't slate me for such things :)
 
@rabbitguy It does not matter if it's behind closed doors.
 
His words vs mine
Do you think he'll say, "yeah. I said that."?
 
9:56 PM
Holy fuck it only took me the entire night...
 
Yes but what about our blog?
:P
 
It's just hidden :P
 
@PeeHaa making a subdomain ?
 
Anonymous
\o/
 
setting up tls and proxying everything
 
9:57 PM
@PeeHaa the promise should fail
 
mostly tls was annoying for some reason
 
I've approached a lawyer about other issues. I'm trying to talk some other CO workers into jumping onto a "hostile work environment" suit
 
@bwoebi Yeah I already debugged it to the point that it just gets deleted :P
tnx anyway
 
ah okay
 
Hard to want to site your employer, though especially in a right to work state....
 
9:58 PM
@rabbitguy you are from USA
 
Kentucky
 
it is not a question
 
@bwoebi Was utterly confused as the promises gave me what I wanted but I couldn't find the file :P
 
lol
 

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