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5:00 PM
I'm not as involved as you and my list is long :D
 
anybody else here interested in Apache Drill? me likey, me likey a lot
and I'm thinking PHP -> mongodb -> Apache Drill. But what is holding me back is mongo is not atomic.
 
nonsense, everything is atomic ...
 
Can't truncate, they're in use. @Danack You're right. Thanks that would work. Though, would it be a problem, say after XY events and XYTZ people applying, each has 1-5 rows of availability summing up a total over 100-150k ? Since there are other tables that'll also end up like that...what measures should be taken if there is any?
 
Atomic as in blows up catastrophically
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@LeviMorrison mine is shrinking, but about somewhere between a tenth and a hundredth of the speed it needs to shrink ...
 
5:03 PM
What are your current projects?
 
so @JoeWatkins I should make the move to mongo?
 
Your moment of zen for today... PHPWorld(Nov) is out of Early Bird. ZendCon(Oct) just announced another week of it.
 
I just want something I can talk to via SQL and scales from my laptop to say 1000 servers.
 
OSS stuff pthreads, apcu, and uopz, and if there hasn't been too many releases then ustring, or another solution that solves the same problem for 7, then various patches I agreed to work on ...
 
@Sajad are you done with configuration of nginx mysql...
 
5:05 PM
and I'm also researching doing php support for flatbuffers
 
@Ekin partitioning the table might help in the future but you are going to be fine into the 10s of millions assuming you have sane keys
 
@Gordon Fuck that. Who needs to get shit done when you can stare at @rdlowrey the entire day
 
but not openly yet, because work ... and haven't really started yet, other than started to look at the compiler/generator which seems to be the best starting place ...
I'm tired, making stupid mistakes, I need a rest for a few days ...
 
@Ekin "what measures should be taken if there is any?" - the only thing to really worry about is to make sure that the data is stored in a way that is easy to write queries. (And I strongly recommend reading the slides from slideshare.net/billkarwin/sql-antipatterns-strike-back ). So long as the queries are reasonably easy to write, it's highly likely that MySQL (or whichever DB) will be able to optimise them.
So long as you're not doing recursive joins, 200k row is pretty much nothing. Even with 1000 bytes of data per row it would all fit in 200megabytes of data. Even having 20 tables like that would still fit in 4 gigabytes of memory.....which costs what, $100?
Oh wait - 32GB is about $200, I hadn't checked recently.
 
@Danack I see, alright noted down. They are easy to query and use currently. In general it takes a max. 0.0465 seconds which I guess should be all okay (tested a few today). I was just reading the slides and separating the table into many per year seems like a reasonable idea. Thanks a lot for the resources.
 
5:12 PM
Unless you have fudged up the way that you're storing data and MySQL has to do a lot of work to do a query (e.g. storing a date as a string, and so each row has to be parsed as string -> date), or if you have 'graph' like data e.g. friends of friends for a social site, then almost all SQL queries are going to be fast these days.
 
16GB of DDR4 cost me £170 recently ... or are you talking about server/cloud pricing ?
 
user895378
 
> Strength working with a major MVC Framework such as Laravel, Zend, Symphony, Cakephp or Yii
Which one will you admit to ?
 
the non-existing one?
 
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5:15 PM
@Orangepill moving to the city
 
(symphony)
 
@Danack I'm sure they'll accept "proud to say I roll my own".
@rdlowrey Going to live in Jersey or NYC or?
@rdlowrey Congratulations!
 
> Experience working in Service Oriented Architecture - developing Microservices is a major plus.
Strength working with a major MVC Framework such as Laravel, Zend, Symphony, Cakephp or Yii
Ha! @rdlowrey ;-)
 
user895378
I'm angling for somewhere in Manhattan. Will see what happens though. Fluid situation.
 
Maybe you can help push working remotely with Anthony so I can join you in a while :D
It would be fun to work with you guys.
 
5:16 PM
@rdlowrey sounds like they are looking for 3 different people
 
Moving to NYC with my family? That would be nuts! Probably a no-go.
 
user895378
The amazing thing about grovo is that it's getting the right people for the job
 
I was reading the careers thing earlier ... they look all right but nothing really jumped out of the page ...
 
user895378
Not about frameworks ...
 
@LeviMorrison woot
 
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5:17 PM
I wasnt excited about it until I actually got to talk to folks in the organization.
 
@ircmaxell Yeah, it's quite exciting and a fairly unique experience.
 
user895378
Those job postings are just standard fare
 
yeah they look it ...
 
@LeviMorrison you don't move to nyc with your family. You move to commuting distance...
 
@ircmaxell Yes, I know. Either way it probably wouldn't happen, hence why I asked about remote.
 
5:19 PM
wow
 
ok
 
it's late already
cya errybody
 
user895378
o/
 
@ircmaxell well ...
the majority of programmers are outside of commuting distance, for any job, anywhere ...
 
user895378
Now I just have to convince Nick to let me write and publish statistical research papers using all the data
 
5:20 PM
I always feel a bit excluded when a company won't consider remote employees ...
 
@PHPeeHaa OK! My technical department is waiting for your API to integrate APCU and OPCache together.
So there is now a whole department waiting on me?
 
user895378
I actually wanted a move so it worked for me
 
No pressure
...
:-)
 
user895378
Insert open source project guilt here
 
:D
 
5:22 PM
Remi got me with some of that today @rdlowrey
I ended up working on apc ... I really hate it ...
 
@rdlowrey Helps that you are single ;)
 
@PeeHaa Help us, OhPeeWan Haanobi... you're our only hope
 
@krakjoe "APCU almost dead" according to XCache upstream... :( https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/xcache/xgEnMwcqpZQ
just after I blogged about working on pthreads ...
 
@rdlowrey That qualifications section reads like my resume :-D
 
@JoeWatkins Funny. I need you for my thing :)
Again no pressure ;)
 
5:23 PM
@Trowski you have a boring resume ...
 
@JoeWatkins Fortunately it seems to be increasingly popular for tech companies. Hopefully these options will be more readily available in the future.
 
@JoeWatkins heh, well I meant that I fit those qualifications as well.
 
@Trowski I only kid ... but resumes are boring though ...
 
@JoeWatkins Generally yes, I pity those that have to read them. Maybe that's why HR people usually are so cranky.
 
@PeeHaa did you hear about my list ... there's a list/queue ... it's a blocking queue, also there are bugs in it ... and it might blow up ...
 
5:26 PM
@JoeWatkins use libev
 
@rdlowrey I'm excited for you
 
user895378
@Trowski do you think that's something you might be interested in? If so we can talk further. Just shoot me an email (gmail)
 
@rdlowrey At the moment, no. Especially if it isn't remote.
Can't just uproot the family right now. Thanks though.
 
user895378
I get it
 
Maybe if I was a carefree bachelor like some...
 
5:34 PM
any questions?
 
do you ever worry that .... you'll spend the rest of your life writing code you don't really care about for things that don't really matter ... or is it just me ?
 
user895378
Emphasis on carefree :)
 
anyone have any idea how i should solve a problem; I have a one-page layout with ajax on my website, and have sorted out most of the issues this have.
The problem I am obviously having, is that my ajaxcontent files, are accesible by typing in the file location, as "www.mywebpage.com/example.php". When this is done, either by link sharing, or refreshing the page, the file is the only thing shown, I want to have it so that it redirects to my indexpage,and from there run's the ajaxFunction to corectly display the content.. Other possibilities I suppose is to use php and save my header, menu, f
 
@tereško ok I'm back, are you there ?
 
kinda
 
5:36 PM
good
 
lets start with the simple part: php-fpm
 
so it's just me ...
 
ok
@tereško do you want to I create a private chat room ?
 
it shouldnt be too much content, it should just fine here
 
ok
 
5:37 PM
Hi, a quick question - PHP CS Fixer and PHPStorm's reformat code for PSR-2 add a newline before namespace, is that a codified rule somewhere? Could you point me in the right direction?
 
and this is kinda the "setting up php development environment" part
 
:-)
good
ok, how should I config php-fpm ?
I'm here now: /usr/local/etc
 
ok, so, first thing: if you press TAB key, ti will autocomplete directories and filenames
in the /usr/local/etc folder there are two php.ini file sample
 
yes
 
the "development" and "production" version
so, first you need to copy the php.ini-development to php.ini: cp php.ini-development php.ini
 
5:41 PM
I have not php.ini
but I have php.ini-development
 
yes, so it will create a copy and rename it
 
ah ok
 
then you need to look up[ the list of service that you have available: service -l
and you need to start the php-fpm service
and I need to open a beer
 
@TomaszKowalczyk try putting whatever you want there, then turn on verbose or whatever error reporting to find the rule that is being violated, and then look for that in the source code to see how to tweak it?
 
@tereško cp: php.ini: Permission denied
I should be as root
?
 
5:43 PM
yes
all the administration tasks must be preformed as root
 
@Danack I know how to debug it, I just want to know if this is a rule codified somewhere. I read thoroughly all PSRs but didn't find anything.
 
ah ok, done !
I wore service -l, It shows me a lot of files
I found php-fpm
so ?
 
start the service
you figured out how to restart sshd service already .. so
 
@tereško what is your mean of start the service ? your mean is this? ee php-fpm
 
no
remember what you had to do, when we diabled root login for SSH?
 
5:48 PM
emm ..
there is something in my head, but I can not tell it ...
but since root login is disables in ssh config, they can try till the end of time
 
format for managing services is: service <name> <action>
 
I need to what service ?
 
php-fpm
you should also read what it is later
 
I need to what action ?
 
you need to start a service
 
5:54 PM
ah
 
@Danack found it, it's not a PSR fixer, it's a contributed one: github.com/FriendsOfPHP/PHP-CS-Fixer/blob/master/Symfony/CS/…
 
so: service php-fpm start
correct ?
 
yes
 
@Danack I used --level=psr2 and it's okay now
 
Cannot 'start' php_fpm. Set php_fpm_enable to YES in /etc/rc.conf or use 'onestart' instead of 'start'.
 
5:55 PM
@JoeWatkins yes, but trying to work on that. It takes time
@rdlowrey You don't have to ;-)
 
@Sajad how do you interpret that message?
 
there is two way :
 
@rdlowrey congrats
 
I edit rc.conf files and set php_fpm_enable to yes
or
 
I can curl to other servers just fine, but unable to curl one specific server. What could be blocking it on server? I'm setting user-agent fwiw
 
5:57 PM
use onestart instead of start
which one ?
 
actually, you should do both
 
oh ...
 
/etc/rc.conf file is used to define some of the things that are done at startup for the OS (you will be returning to that file for nginx and mysql too)
what you need to put in that file is the following line: php_fpm_enable="YES"
 
@ircmaxell sure yeah ... but you're considering it, which is further than most tech companies goes, they just outright refuse ... which has never made sense to me, if you're fishing then casting the net as wide as possible is obviously the best strategy ...
 
and the run "onestart" for that service
 
5:59 PM
I open it like this: ee rc.conf ?
 

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