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10:00 PM
dammit, no reason to do that
 
Ah, I see @bwoebi contributed the first no vote to pecl http
 
@ircmaxell E_TOO_MANY_RFCS
 
the "pecl_http" falls off the end of the list
 
@NikiC yeah, I'm annoyed by the Client coming with it. Also APIs squeezed into pseudo-OO constructs (class with a single static method??!?)
 
there we go
 
10:01 PM
E_TOO_MANY_RFC
 
@bwoebi pseudo-oo is all the rage right now
 
@bwoebi only 5 votes to pass group use... still no dice FY? :D
 
Also, I found some other things (AFAIK there were no bigger changes recently) which annoyed me… but don't remember exactly which ones…
 
I'm concerned about the deps too
 
@ircmaxell the deps IMO are fine and should be even integrated into Zend later etc.
 
10:07 PM
integerated into Zend is fine
but as ext/, no unless they are non-disableable. At which point why are they extensions, and not proposed for ext/standard or zend/
 
Yay! But why?
Oh, use strict; ?
 
@ircmaxell they can be integrated in a later step I think.
 
> error("You seem to be trying to use a different language. May I recommend Hack? hacklang.org");
5
 
@bwoebi well, once they go in as extensions, they'll have to be forever, since extensions requiring them will need to require the extension rather than the core header... So BC...
 
10:12 PM
@marcio Yep :D
 
"You seem to be trying to use a different language. Err... well, I guess you are using a different language. I meant a different different language... never mind."
 
@marcio It was @Andrea's ide (mostly)
 
@Sara reminds me of google chrome propaganda :D
 
@ircmaxell I mean… change in beta phase of PHP 7
 
@Paul That message only shows if you're in a <?php file
 
10:13 PM
@bwoebi well, then why not do that before pushing?
 
For Hack files it's a different message
 
@Sara I meant that for hack files.
 
Ah, I see what you mean. :p
 
@ircmaxell because nobody likes to do patches which might not pass... (weak argument though…)
 
youtube.com/watch?v=bjEmHAeE4DY <-- my keynote for PHPNW
@bwoebi sure. Perhaps some mention of it then?
 
10:15 PM
feel free to bring it up on-list :-)
 
:-/
 
morning
 
@Sara can you point me to where in HHVM your parser grammar is defined (I'll look from there, just unsure of the file structure)?
 
As in hphp/parser/hphp.y ?
And the _p->onFoo() stuff it calls is in hphp/compiler/parser/parser.cpp
 
cool, thanks!
 
10:19 PM
hphp/parser/hphp.ll is the lexer file
 
/me feels like an idiot for not looking first if it was that obvious
 
Eh, where's the fun in looking first? :p
 
ah, so you have the same ..."interesting"... declare parsing rules
I don't know why I half-expected (or hoped) for different
 
it IS???
holy crap
as is PHPPHP?!?!?!?!?1
who do I need to high-five for that?
 
10:22 PM
And quercus! \o/
 
(the other implementations, not just PHPPHP)
 
@ircmaxell already since a long time…
 
/me needs to come out from his hole
 
@ircmaxell lol, I never noticed that
I guess I always click right through to HHVM
 
/me is happy now
 
10:24 PM
@Sara looking at that grammar file ... hhvm supports a huuuge bunch of extra stuff :)
I wasn't aware you have query support ... whatever that may be ^^
 
@NikiC linq?
 
@NikiC Linq
 
@ircmaxell looks like it yeah
 
@ircmaxell :D
aiui, that's still slightly wip
 
wip, but cool
man, stop making HHVM+Hack look cooler and cooler... I want to dislike it for some reason
 
10:29 PM
Sorry, bro
 
Makes me ashamed I still haven't tried hhvm and hack
 
3.6 LTS is going to be pretty solid, I'd grab that one when the prebuilts are out
 
eh @Sara please invest your time into making PHP cooler… pfff :-D
 
I'm probably afraid that if I install it once I'll ditch php for good :P
 
@bwoebi I'm trying, but.... internals@....
 
10:33 PM
@Sara internals… meh… just sneak it in! :-D
 
I figured out what the new language needs to be: P#
 
JFYI the pecl_http tests are supposed to be merged into ext/standard and main, not as extensions. That's in the RFC, in the discussions and in the POC.
ERM, not the tests, the exts. Stupid mobile autocorrect ion
The deps even
 
@m6w6 oh, did I miss that?
 
Apparently ;)
 
ah, I see that now
fair enough then :-D
 
10:38 PM
@NikiC tip: if you start to compile today, perhaps on Monday the build will be ready for you to use.
 
yield* is totally crazy
My mind just can't wrap around it
Once I get to the point where one generator is part of multiple yield*s and contains yield* itself I just can't keep up anymore
I think that may be a case where the stacking approach breaks down
 
like goto gone wild
 
goto is nothing
 
@NikiC what do you mean by "stacking approach"?
 
@NikiC come on, yield is great at least because of possibility to write - like you've posted - yield or die
 
10:56 PM
what was the name of currency in India ?
I need to know how much is 50'000 in euros
 
yay, going to France in June
 
@tereško rupee
 
shit, it's not indian
 
@bwoebi where you have a stack of generators and directly resume the top one
@ircmaxell can you post another link to your keynote?
 
what is the name of currency which as a symbol that looks like small "d" with underline and a line trough the tail ?
 
11:00 PM
@NikiC Not sure what the issue is here?
 
@bwoebi The issue is that one generator can be part of multiple yield*s at the same time
 
@NikiC is there a reason to support that?
 
@NikiC sounds like non-self recursion
 
@tereško DONG
 
11:02 PM
@NikiC at least I don't see an use case for this now…
 
A currency symbol is a graphic symbol used as a shorthand for a currency's name, especially in reference to amounts of money. They typically employ the first letter or character of the currency, sometimes with minor changes such as ligatures or overlaid vertical or horizontal bars. Today, ISO 4217 codes are used instead of currency symbols for most official purposes, though currency symbols may be in common use in many other contexts. Few currencies in the world have no shorthand symbol at all. Although many former currency symbols were rendered obsolete by the adoption of the euro, having a new...
 
@Danack oh ... it looked kinda like en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogecoin
 
check the table in the currency symbol page.
 
yeah , verified already
 
date.timezone rfc is at 75% acceptance … =)
 
11:07 PM
@bwoebi you tha man!
 
@bwoebi I still think there's going to be a late surge the other way. Certainly one no vote is missing.
 
@Danack Dericks? yeah… I think he has forgotten to vote on it ^^
I'd like to remind him… but not sure if that'd be provocative…
 
11:24 PM
@Danack that was actually a cool ad
 
Yeah, Guinness spend a load of cash in the UK making ads like that.
 
the again, I am not really objective since last TV ad that I was was ~3 years ago
*that I saw was
 
@Danack make a 10 hour version, that's hypnotic
 
11:37 PM
@Danack not nearly as good as the other version
 
After the first 2 hours, you'll probably lose all sanity and ability to distinguish the two....
 
lol
 
@ircmaxell nice :)
@bwoebi yeah, we should likely just forbid it
 
@ircmaxell wait wait what
you're not going to target php 7 with scalar type hints?
 

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