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ThW
4:03 PM
@rdlowrey I don't care that it is an Iterator - I only care that it is an Traversable
 
user895378
Then why should you care about getReturn()? That has nothing to do with traversing something.
 
ThW
Why did you add returns to the generator?
 
user895378
Because functions return values and we need a way to access those values in a context where the return value is unavailable at the time of the call.
 
Because a generator isn't just a pure iterator.
 
@ThW Not all generators are iterators.
 
ThW
4:05 PM
"I don't care that it is an Iterator - I only care that it is an Traversable"
 
user895378
1 min ago, by rdlowrey
Then why should you care about getReturn()? That has nothing to do with traversing something.
 
ThW
In this case a traversable with a result
 
user895378
Then it's a generator.
 
ThW
NO
 
user895378
Then show me a code example. A real one.
 
ThW
4:06 PM
It can be implemented both ways
 
user895378
It shouldn't be.
 
user895378
And demonstrate how you also plan to implement Generator::throw() and Generator::send()
 
ThW
Why?
 
user895378
Because you posit that generators and iterators are interchangeable now as the reason for wanting this special interface.
 
user895378
But they aren't interchangeable.
 
user895378
4:08 PM
Because send/throw.
 
ThW
No I haven't
 
user895378
51 mins ago, by ThW
At the moment a generator and an iterator are interchangeable https://eval.in/private/5b651913d9cc3a
 
ThW
you want to misunderstand me?
 
To be fair, ThW, you did exactly say that "a generator and an iterator are interchangeable".
 
user895378
No, I want you to show me an example of how you would use this in the real world where it makes more sense than actually making your function a generator.
 
user895378
4:10 PM
If you have something that has a return value then it's not an iterator, it's a function.
 
@rdlowrey I think that's slightly incorrect.
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison Iterators have return values?
 
If it doesn't yield any values it's not an iterator.
It's not that the function returned something; it's that it didn't yield any values.
 
user895378
My point is that a generator is only an Iterator because of how they have to be implemented in PHP so that we can traverse them.
 
user895378
A Generator is actually a function. It doesn't make sense to create an interface to allow polymorphism of a function because you can't change how functions behave.
 
4:12 PM
Generator != Iterator. More, in general they have nothing to do with each other. It happened that occasionally in PHP the concept of generators was implemented the way it is now. But that doesn't mean the concept itself of those two things is similar.
 
user895378
The ability to pause the function and resume it later and still be able to access the return value even though it's not available at the time you initially invoke the function is a basic property of functions in the language. It's not an interface you can implement yourself and get the same result.
 
If you can send something to generator and "generate" your response - then it doesn't mean you can "iterate" through those send calls. Well, you can arrange that separately, but generator in general will have no idea about that stuff
 
user895378
If you need a pausable/resumable function then you need a function ... not a userland class instance.
 
@rdlowrey yes, that's it. "iterator" is on top of "generator", it's a separate stuff, which was united in PHP for some reason.
 
@rdlowrey Here's a maybe-legit usecase for having a parent interface: github.com/nikic/iter/blob/master/src/iter.rewindable.php#L83
it's a wrapper around a generator
 
user895378
4:18 PM
@NikiC On first look that seems more like an argument for allowing Generator::rewind()
 
user895378
But why not just create a new instance of the generator instead of faking rewind?
 
that's a different question ^^
I don't think rewind() is of any use in the coroutine case
 
user895378
I don't either. I think it really comes back to whether we think generators should be thought of as functions or as objects.
 
@rdlowrey I'm probably going to get called "uncool" again: reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/2wis24/…
 
#222222
 
user895378
4:22 PM
@LeviMorrison I thought about commenting on the reddit post about @marcio's reserved words RFC but I have a feeling I would be "uncool" too.
 
user895378
@marcio I'm not sure I like the idea of some keywords being reserved and some not.
 
user895378
Special cases don't seem like a great idea to me. I think either everything should be reserved or everything should be available.
 
@rdlowrey drop that thing xD I'll have to change the patch because of the fuk*ng complex trait resolution syntax
 
user895378
lol okay
 
user895378
trait and finally: why we can't have nice things.
 
4:25 PM
we'll need to reserve at least all method modifiers and type hints :) so... 10 globally reserved words.
 
@marcio oooh good point. I thought that at least methods could use everything :/
@marcio Did you see my mail news.php.net/php.internals/83292 ?
 
@LeviMorrison "Do you want to flag this message as spam, inappropriate, or offensive?" - you got two out of three. Not bad.
 
@Danack lol
 
@NikiC because somebody thought it would be nice to have:
class Dumb {
                                             // :@
    use SomeTrait { SomeTrait::someMethod as private; }
}
 
@marcio yeah I know
traits are horribad
 
4:28 PM
There you go; perfectly aligned.
clap
 
LOL
 
@LeviMorrison feels like slippery slope ...
 
@NikiC yaeah, I hate traits.
now even more than before :D it broke my patch on the last second but I can fix it in a few minutes
 
btw @LeviMorrison are you going to separate the reserving of names RFC into stuff we're almost certainly going to use (int, float) and into stuff that probably will never be used (double, boolean) ?
 
@Danack You mean multiple voting options?
 
4:30 PM
Yes.
 
@JoeWatkins That comment is exactly "slippery slope" yes.
 
"INSERT INTO table1 (field1,field2,field3) VALUES ('value', 'value', 'value') INSERT INTO table2 (field1,field2,field3) VALUES ('value', 'value', 'value')" <---- is this correct for inserting values to multiple tables in a single prepared statement?
 
@Danack Probably not. Why? You don't want to reserve double, integer and boolean?
In my opinion nobody should use PHP's past aliases as class, interface or trait names. It would just be confusing.
 
@LeviMorrison i) I don't like reserving stuff that is not going to be used in general, but also it's likely to break some existing code for no benefit - if they're never used. ii) There are reasonable cases where people want to have a class represent an integer, and not having any word available sucks.
 
001+ Termsig=11
001- Fatal error: Encoding declaration pragma must be the very first statement in the script in %s on line %d
 
4:33 PM
morning o/ (yay friday!)
 
yay to segfault
 
@NikiC oh, looks like I missed your email I'll respond now :) looks like the (ClassName $a, $b, $c, $d) ==> $a case you pointed out is already covered
 
@marcio it is, how do you cover it?
 
function fault(){ fault(); } fault(); // yay
 
@Danack Regarding point ii) I can see how you would want an integer with reference mechanics to perhaps be class Integer but the correct thing to do right now would just be to take an integer by reference.
 
4:35 PM
(gdb) print *file_ast
$2 = {kind = 133, attr = 0, lineno = 1, children = 2, child = {0x7ffff707f1d8}}
(gdb) print *file_ast->child[0]
$3 = {kind = 536, attr = 0, lineno = 2, child = {0x7ffff707f090}}
(gdb) print *file_ast->child[1]
Cannot access memory at address 0x0
@NikiC ^^
 
(I would like to remove references, though I am sure it will never happen)
 
@ircmaxell yes?
 
/me backs away from internals ...
 
@NikiC children == 2, yet one is a null pointer... is that not a bug?
 
@JoeWatkins btw, I have problem understanding what Crypto Compress is saying. Like there are words in the mail but I can't extract their meaning...
@ircmaxell there can be null pointers in the ast
for optional elements for example
 
4:37 PM
@NikiC yeah, me too ... I've tried ...
 
@NikiC in an ast_list?
 
@NikiC wait... it's not, because there is no way to detect it's in an arglist... I see your point. It cant besolved with a lookahead for ==> but maybe it can be solved by {LABEL}/{WHITESPAE}"$" to check for a typehint. (\ClassName $a) ==> seems covered though.
 
			/* Encoding declaration was already handled during parsing. Here we
			 * only check that it is the first statement in the file. */
			zend_ast_list *file_ast = zend_ast_get_list(CG(ast));

			size_t i = 0;
			signed char valid = 0;

			/* Check to see if this declare is preceeded only by declare statements */
			while (valid == 0 && i < file_ast->children) {
				if (file_ast->child[i] == ast) {
					valid = 1;
				} else if (file_ast->child[i]->kind != ZEND_AST_DECLARE) {
					/* declares can only be preceeded by other declares */
 
@ircmaxell yes. e.g. in list() or an empty statement ; is NULL too
 
@LeviMorrison I don't think that reference would be a solution. I'm thinking for stuff like custom data protocols where you want to be able to pass in an array of values and have them converted into a byte stream. If you want to be able to pass in something that represents just an int, it's really hard to think of a name that means just 'int' without being able to use either int or integer.
 
4:39 PM
^^ That's segfaulting on file_ast->child[i]->kind
<?php
declare(encoding="ISO-8859-15") {
	declare(encoding="ISO-8859-1");
	echo "ok\n";
}
 
@Danack Why can't you just pass an integer?
 
@ircmaxell there's probably an implicit ; at the end of the file which causes the NULL element
 
sigh... kk..
 
@LeviMorrison Pretty hard for an integer to implement an interface.
 
@Danack My point is why would you need one to?
Maybe I don't see it properly at this distance, but I'd say that's a bit interface-happy.
 
user895378
4:41 PM
@JoeWatkins in one of your mails you advocated for being able to use custom exceptions in your assertion throws so you can react differently at the top level catch block based on the type of AssertionException ... could you give me an example of the different type of behavior you'd want here? To me it seems the exception message should be good enough, but I'd be happy to adjust my thinking given an adequate reason.
 
@marcio label/ws$ would be confused by something like print $a tho right?
 
@JoeWatkins Pierre is losing it. Zend is losing it. Everyone is losing it. Let's go start our own language...
 
@ircmaxell And we will call that new language ... Hack!
 
with hookers. And beer. And a type system. And hookers.
 
@ircmaxell But no blackjack?
 
4:43 PM
@NikiC if you want blackjack, we can have blackjack
 
honestly I'm not a particular fan of blackjack, but I feel that for the sake of completeness we should include it
2
 
@NikiC yes, we would need a state to try to lex the arglist and discard everything and go back to the previous state if necessary or do the lexical feedback (you hate so much) :D At this point I would prefer to have a hand written lexer lol
 
@ircmaxell How about one that has first-class embedded support for HTML, XML, JSON and SQL?
So that heredocs in a given document type would actually switch into parsing and interpretation for that doc type.
 
@NikiC are you a fan of any table games? Poker? etc?
@LeviMorrison sure, why not
 
4:47 PM
@LeviMorrison No HTML, just XML.
HTML as a subset of XML.
 
@DanLugg xhtml
 
^^
<this is=invalid>
 
I'd say that all quilts are bullshit but I probably shouldn't be making blanket statements like that.
 
let id = "trying to be nasty\"></p><script>alert('hello');<p";

// no injection possible! Context-aware escaping!
let fragment = <<<HTMLFragment
 <p id="``id``"></p>
<<<HTMLFragment;
 
@ircmaxell why the weird three-way valid?
@ircmaxell nah, not really
 
4:48 PM
@NikiC ?
 
@ircmaxell -101
 
Oh, in the patch
 
@LeviMorrison meh. In general there are cases where you want to be able to represent a simple type, and have other behaviour associated with it's object, that is encapsulated by an interface. As I said - reserving stuff that we're almost certainly never going to use seems dubious. btw this guys is going to hate you if he's still using that code.
 
I could break I guess
it was a relic from logic where i went into the declare itself to see what it was, so I couldn't rely on 2-way
let me fix that
 
@LeviMorrison Nah, no heredoc style; just let frag = <p id=value></p>;
 
4:50 PM
So this new language will be called Joe and Anthony's Coding Kingdom(JACK), will feature strict types, and will never name anything with the letter Z?
 
@DanLugg I want the heredoc. Parsing gets too hard because you don't know which language to g ointo.
 
@Machavity there is no such thing as "Z"
@Machavity also, I think there are mmore than just Joe and I involved
Andrea expressed interest, as did this entire room. Actually, let's call it 11
 
@LeviMorrison Okay, how about rather than dual-delimiters, just a prefix symbol?
let frag = @<node></node>;
 
do you use PHP? No, I use 11. 11 what? 11. HUH? yeah, exactly. what, I'm lost. 11. Like the number? Yeah. of what?
 
4:52 PM
Call it R11, just because 11 by itself is kinda taken
 
^^ Obligatory.
 
@NikiC I'll do a last attempt to have the semi reserved-words for class names, namespaces and typehints but this time reserving all method modifiers + "array" and "callable". If no dice, then I'll revert the RFC to the v0.2 and propose it again :)
 
@Machavity ohhh, then we can have a mascot!
 
@Machavity lol, great minds.
 
@DanLugg Indeed sir
 
4:54 PM
Don't forget to fill out the new programming language checklist
 
@NikiC fixed
> You have reinvented PHP better, but that's still no justification
 
^^
 
^^ my favorite
 
posted on February 20, 2015 by kbironneau

/* by uknowcreation */

 
@DanLugg expired
 
5:08 PM
Ah, shit. It does that.
@ircmaxell Cleanup ^^?
 
2 messages moved to bin
whoops, did one too many
 
S'all good
 
5:22 PM
:-P
 
5:41 PM
3 messages moved to bin
:-)
 
are there any useful cases in which promises might be necessary in PHP
or multi-threading in general
 
what are we making named 11 ?
 
@JoeWatkins a language :-P
 
French Friex
 
@ircmaxell Hey! I can see how you went from bin->hex->int: github.com/ircmaxell/RandomLib/blob/master/lib/RandomLib/… can I just go straight from bin->int?
 
5:46 PM
If this were channel V, it'd be pizza
 
@Sara french bedding?
@SammyK kind-of...
how familiar are you with C?
 
I'm re-learning from the old college days. :)
But I've learned a lot about bin, hex and the like over the past few days.
 
:-)
don't worry about hex
 
let me worry about hex
 
so
 
when you generate a random amount of bytes
 
@JoeWatkins I guess hex has come a long way since the old witchdoctor days
 
Joe, can you tell me a real life scenario for using threads in PHP. When can they be useful?
 
@ziGi that conversation is exhausting, I'll politely decline to talk about that this evening ...
 
you're generating an array of bytes
 
5:50 PM
@JoeWatkins ok, pardon me for bothering you
 
an integer is an array of bytes either 4 wide (32 bit) or 8 wide (64 bit)
 
I was just wondering
I have to leave anyway
 
ah!
That's a really helpful clue :)
 
one thing first, I think random_int should take 0 or 2 parameters (just like mt_rand)
 
@ircmaxell hey, have you seen this? kickstarter.com/projects/432767873/…
 
5:53 PM
for a hint on how to deal with that, checkout mt_rand: lxr.php.net/xref/PHP_TRUNK/ext/standard/rand.c#317
 
I was discussing that with @Leigh. Adding a min decreases entropy. In Go, Python & Ruby, none of them have a min for their CSPRNG's.
 
@CarrieKendall no, not yet
@SammyK or @Leigh how does having a min decrease entropy?
but either way, that's handlable in the future
namely:
 
@ziGi Consider implementing a randomized contraction algorithm to find the min cut of a graph. You have to run it a bunch of times in order to find it with confidence, and each run is entirely independent. This lends itself well to sharing a single starting state (the graph) and running iterations on it in parallel.
 
Maybe entropy is not the word. But doesn't it allow the user (who might not know about how to maximize entropy) to decrease the randomness by defining a min?
 
what version has the best error? 3v4l.org/PsR2j PHP7 or PHP 5.6 (serious question, I have to decide between lex check or compile time check and PHPs don't agree, maybe PHP 7 has a bug?)
 
5:56 PM
collegedukan.com , Hi guys, this is my website. I am getting those posts by reading the columns Title, Description and price. But I have no clue how to keep the images in the image place holder. Anyone can give me an idea about that?
 
At any rate, it's easy enough to add/subtract later on :)
 
yay more reserved words :) reserve_even_more_types_in_php_7
 
char buffer[8];
long result;
int bits = (int) (log((double) range) / log(2.0)) + 1;
int bytes = max(ceil(bits / 8), 1);
long mask = (long) pow(2.0, (double) bits) - 1;
do {
    if (php_random_bytes(&buffer, 8) == FAILURE) {
        // handle error
    }
    result = ((long) buffer) & mask;
} while (result > max);
return result;
 
@marcio 7's error message is not helpful. The 5 one is clear.
 
something along those lines
 
6:00 PM
VamsiPavanMahesh I am assuming that title, description, price are columns in a database?
 
@ircmaxell Woah! Nice. Thanks. I'm totes going to try this out
 
yeah, exactly
@ronni
 
So a table called product_pictures or something
which have a foreign key that points to the primary id of the product
so you can have multiple pictures for each product .. or didnt I fully understand what you meant?
 
@SammyK you want to do some error detection, specifically around max ints
 
@Danack I think the syntax error on PH7 is a bug, the compile check is still there but became dead code now. Probably the syntax error was not intended.
 
6:01 PM
Yeah, so that it's not past INT_MAX and below 1?
 
actually, let's change one detail
 
@ircmaxell php_random_bytes(&buffer, 8) is in a while loop and php_random_bytes() opens/closes a fd every time. Is that going to be an issue?
 
I have a table called posts, which has title,desc and price as columns. In the index.php I'm just reading those database row wise. Go to collegedukan.com/senddata.php and post something. now go to / . you will get the new post. Now can you tell me in little more detail ? @ron
 
union {
	char buffer[8];
	long number;
} conv;

conv value;
long result;
int bits = (int) (log((double) range) / log(2.0)) + 1;
int bytes = max(ceil(bits / 8), 1);
long mask = (long) pow(2.0, (double) bits) - 1;
do {
    if (php_random_bytes(&value.buffer, 8) == FAILURE) {
        // handle error
    }
    result = value.number & mask;
} while (result > max);
return result;
 
@ircmaxell question: if filea, without declare, calls fileb, with declare, calls filec with a string instead of an int, what happens?
 
6:03 PM
@FlorianMargaine gist please
 
@VamsiPavanMahesh change the desc column name to description
 
sir, that is ok
 
Ok. I'm on mobile right now, so later
 
@SammyK you can add a function to cache the fd for this case...
 
but about the other table you are talking about @ron
 
6:04 PM
pizza or sushi ?
 
@FlorianMargaine also: the rules are clear. declare behavior affects function calls and return values in the current file. Nothing else.
 
@ircmaxell Awesome - thanks so much. I'm going to try this out :)
 
@tereško pizza =]
and beer
@VamsiPavanMahesh yes, you save the images in a folder but you also save the filename to the database along witht the id of the post.. if you want to make it super simple first time, you could add a new column to your current database table for the image, but it would be better to make a new table
 
so this will be an error? ^
 
But I can only store images in folder right?
 
6:07 PM
@FlorianMargaine yes
 
ok, thanks
 
line 8 of fileA will have an "attempt to pass an integer to a function expecting a string" error
 
Do you guys think there is even a remotely possibility of new method visibility modifiers get added to PHP on the next few years?
 
@CarrieKendall definitely cool
@marcio such as?
 
@ircmaxell ok that cleared up my thought, thanks
 
6:09 PM
That is cool, thanks for the help .. can I ping you later If i get any doubt :) @ron
 
VamsiPavanMahesh yes, have fun with the codes [=
 
@ircmaxell no idea, just trying to be the most future aware as possible regarding what's being discussed over the years and my current changes on lexer.
 
@marcio well, without examples, not really sure there :-/
 
/me wakes @PeeHaa;
 
There should be an RFC to deprecate type casting aliases (e.g. double and real).
 
6:13 PM
@ircmaxell I can make some optimizations, but only if this part of the language is 100% stable, otherwise better not. Hence the question.
 
I'd say it's stable
 
@marcio define optimization? For most people who are using OPCache, parsing PHP code isn't really a measurable performance hit is it?
 
@ircmaxell k, that's what I wanted to hear from somebody following the mailing lists much longer than me :)
 
@Danack it's not, but making the lexer go back and fourth in various states can have an impact on the RFC so now that the patch is getting more stable I'm trying to simplify it a bit if possible.
 
Is there a C version of ksort? Or how do you step through a hashtable in key order rather than added order?
 
> Step 1 will be to put together a group of amateur science and space enthusiasts who share a common interest of proving that extra terrestrials do in FACT exis
I'm out
 
:-)
 
So, I think to sort an array I need to do:
if (zend_hash_sort(Z_ARRVAL_P(array), zend_qsort, php_array_key_compare, 0 TSRMLS_CC) == FAILURE) {
	RETURN_FALSE;
}
but php_array_key_compare is a static function and so not available in a module. Is there any reason why it's not re-usable?
 
@ircmaxell Woah! It seems to work! github.com/SammyK/php-src/compare/…
Lol
 
6:31 PM
@SammyK now time for some tests :-D
 
Lol - indeed!
 
> my point is simply that if you are going to use Hack adoption as a sign "that people want static typing" you should clearly explain that your approach is quite different from what Hack is doing.
"quite different" in that i respect the types of internal functions
/me quits
(not really, not until this RFC passes or fails)
 
da faq
Thor now is a she
also: yay, the pizza is HERE
 
6:51 PM
I've figured out the problem with internals
if you leave out something for the sake of terseness or brevity, you get jumped on. If you say everything, nobody reads it and you get jumped on for shit you said but they didn't read.
2
 
someone already did xss :p @ron
 
@JoshWatzman thanks for the clarification :-)
 
@ircmaxell It's almost as people go into those discussion with preconceived ideas and then are looking for justifications as to why their gut instinct is the Right Way To Do Things.
 
@ircmaxell Your expectations of it are entirely too high despite all experiences to the contrary. If you can set your bar lower to better match reality (which is really hard to do, I admit) it'll be far less frustrating.
 
@PaulCrovella nah, I'm just going to see this proposal through, and then leave
 
7:02 PM
For all the progress PHP has made in recent years it's a shame the idiocracy chases good people away. I've wondered how the language would do with actual leadership, but given the options for leaders it's probably better off with anarchy.
 
Interesting: dec64.com /cc @Andrea
 
@PaulCrovella it's up to the community to stand up and demand change. One person can't do it.
 
@JoeWatkins you're right
 
I know it
 
7:12 PM
@JoeWatkins doesn't mean I won't destroy her to let me go :-P
 
Is there a quick way to trim the last char from a zend_string? I tried my_str->val[size - 1] = "\0"; with wonky results. :)
 
@SammyK what are you trying to do?
 
You know, for all the drama and stuff, you guys do a lot of us a lot of good. I probably wouldn't have a job right now if it weren't for PHP
 
@Machavity yeah, and that's the screwiest part of it all...
 
me neither ... or a house ...
 
7:14 PM
@SammyK you must of course adjust the len too, and forget the hash, and make sure it's a dynamically allocated string
 
Other than using a user's IP, are there any other server variables in PHP that allow you to securely verify a user's identity without a password? I would love to rely on IP but a lot of our clients don't have static IPs, does this mean the only way is to password protect?
 
@jskidd3 There's always tokens, but in the end it tends to just be another way to say password
 
@ircmaxell Probably something I shouldn't... lol. Basically I want to have random_hex(string_len) return a hex string. So I grab ceil(string_len / 2) of bin from random_bytes() and then try to truncate the resulting hex string if the string_len was odd
 
@Machavity Ok thanks. If that's the case I think I'll just stick to a secure form.
 
7:17 PM
you need to create a new string, and memcpy the old one
otherwise you'll have an inconsistent string
 
@ircmaxell Cool - thanks!
 
Mornings
@RonniSkansing yo?
 
@PeeHaa yo, just wanted to hear everything is, but bbl watching a tv show.. ttyl
 
later
 
@ircmaxell C is so much fun! :)
 
7:30 PM
I want to create a simple portal to allow a few companies/individuals to be able to edit websites I've built for them, other than building a password protected control panel in a subdirectory on the server, is there any other way I can secure this editor?
Bearing in mind I can't really on IP due to some having static and some not
 
@SammyK Why a random_hex function?
isn't this just bin2hex(random_bytes())?
 
@jskidd3 Securing areas with logins is pretty much the way to do exactly what you're trying to do...
 
@Charles Ok I see. I guess I'm being a bit paranoid, I suppose if I provided a secure log in there shouldn't be any problems. I just feel like having it in open space puts a hacker 1 wall away from doing whatever they want to the site
 
@jskidd3 Then use two-factor authentication. Look up TOTP and things like Google Authenticator. Easy as pie to integrate.
 
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Genius, I love Google Authenticator
Completely forgot it exists, thanks very much :D
 
7:34 PM
Good luck!
 
@Charles Thanks :-) Do you think I should force TFA or just recommend enabling it for said client?
 
@jskidd3 Recommend it if you think that they can use it without it being a level of difficulty. About a quarter of my users would screw it up somehow or whine.
 
Okie dokie brill thanks
 
@SammyK I've got a little bit of willpower before I succumb the temptations of friday night drinking, want me to take a pass over everything? (I wonder if I can PR to your fork of php-src)
 
Can anyone of you suggest how I could speed up query's to speed up a login script?
 
7:50 PM
@AshSimpson I would find out what was slow, find out why it's slow, and then change it to be faster.
aka have you tried using EXPLAIN?
 
and also, seeing the query helps ;)
 
/me hates bloody error handlers
 
Are they bloody because you used them to bludgeon someone to death? :)
 
What do you hate about them?
 

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