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11:07 PM
@DaveRandom Klondike - Add it to your "to be watched" list.
 
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morning :)
 
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@Fabien Da king in da norf!
 
lol
morning @rdlowrey
 
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Got new glasses, so now I can write code at night again \o/
 
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Broke my old pair a couple weeks ago and have been forced to wear contacts all day. By the evening my eyes were always too tired from wearing lenses all day to be productive.
 
11:12 PM
Glasses as a result of too much computer?
 
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Nah, my eyes have been terrible since birth.
 
hiya
asp.net is a bitch xD
 
11:28 PM
@rdlowrey Presumably long-sighted? Or just 'fucked eye syndrome'?
 
@JoeWatkins Enough docs written for tonight, looking forward to continue tomorrow :-)
 
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@Danack -5.0 in both eyes.
 
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can't read chat without contacts/glasses from six inches :)
 
But you can you focus on your nose just great!
 
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My theory about people with poor eyesight frequently being smart is that as children they're forced to compensate by overdeveloping their other senses. This leads to better listening skills and higher retention of what is learned. Once you correct the sight problem with lenses they now have an advantage.
 
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11:33 PM
</theory>
 
@rdlowrey 6 inches. Is really not a lot. I usually look from 25 cm away onto my 15" screen (2880x1800)… You probably could look nicely at a 4" screen with that same resolution 10 cm away :-D
@rdlowrey And what's with those who hear badly? (like me)
 
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@bwoebi Same thing. You learn to compensate in other ways.
 
@rdlowrey btw I didn't really understand what you said the other day about thinking about doing some threads to work around the file-descriptor limit. There is always going to be a limit somewhere; wouldn't it be easier/better to throw an exception if Artax has too many File-descriptors open to accept another request? For anyone doing async requests it shouldn't be to much work to save the requests that weren't accepted and re-process them later.
 
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There's an interesting Malcolm Gladwell book about this phenomenon: David and Goliath
 
Malcolm Gladwell tells nice stories - they often don't have that many facts to back them up with.
 
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11:36 PM
@Danack agree.
 
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@Danack Well we can do that, but FWIW I was talking about worker processes and not threads -- something every basic PHP installation can do.
 
Oh also - I need to send you an updated example app. There is definitely weird shit going on.....possibly a buffer overflow in PHP's crypto.
 
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When you say, "updated example app," what is the original example you have in mind right now?
 
@rdlowrey The one I sent you via DM in twitter....which you possibly may not have seen yet ;)
 
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@Danack In truth I have not opened the zip file yet :)
 
11:41 PM
It's got some pretty obvious bugs in it.....e.g. null being passed to something that is type-hinted to a class, so it doesn't get to the bit that is semi-consistently crashing with zend_mm_heap corrupted.
 
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What php version are you running that you see zend blowing up?
 
5.6.2
 
What App are you talking about?
some php module?
 
@bwoebi no just bastionrpm.com
 
@Danack and how do you get that to make PHP explode?
 
11:45 PM
@bwoebi Make a few hundred requests in Artax and the crypto seems to go boom - github.com/amphp/artax/issues/58
If you have any idea how to get better info about a stack trace for when that happens, I am all ears.
 
> Do you think it's possible that the crypto is just using up so much randomness that the machine is running out of entropy?
 
wow
 
That sounds so bad / funny
 
I am totally out of my league on the issue - but my understanding is that eating a lot of bytes from the urandom file will block until they become available....
 
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@Danack I need to play with it before I can make any statement about the source of the problem.
 
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11:52 PM
I'm not sure where the zend_mm_heap problem is coming from but the crypto timeout could just be a problem in my code.
 
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The "crypto timeout exceeded" failure is supposed to trigger if the remote party takes too long to complete the SSL/TLS handshake.
 
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But it's possible that my code is just failing to correctly recognize that the handshake has already finished.
 
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On the other hand, the non-blocking stream_socket_enable_crypto() could be blowing up internally ...
 
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@Danack Have you tested to see if you get the same problem on earlier PHP versions?
 
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Also, is it always after exactly 140 requests that you observe this behavior?
 
11:56 PM
@rdlowrey I can't currently - it hits the file descriptor limit first and dies. I'd need to recompile first or write a workaround to spawning too many requests.
 
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@Danack it's fine -- no need to mess with it. Was just thinking aloud. I can test that.
 
Also - no idea if it's consistently after x requests.
 

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