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8:00 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum What do you mean by changes it for everyone? Are you saying it modifies the property on the prototype?
 
I hope so
 
I'm not sure.
brb
 
@Jack Actually it made sense for the structure but not the behaviour and intention...
@BenjaminGruenbaum Should not that give error? Modifying an inconfigurable descriptor?
 
@Ihsan Hmm, actually setting the value doesn't change anything =p
 
8:15 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum well final solution for using prototype and only obtaining alloweds and newly added dynamics: jsfiddle.net/f6ahf/2
@Jack JavaScript is an iron horse.
 
@Ihsan I'm yet to see a single good use case for enumerating properties including those on the prototype. A lot of people like Douglas Crockford forbid it altogether.
Still, I think enumeration is simply not a part of that system.
 
@Ihsan Okay, that's just weird lol
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I use it only to mark a property NOT enumerated on the prototype: I use native prototype as the blueprint or class or wtf... Which keeps it consistent with instanceof and a lot other native functions...
 
Instanceof and typeof are broken in duck typed languages like JavaScript. It's pretty silly to use them.
If all you want is consistency in contracts use interfaces
If you want structural subtyping just go through the properties and copy them in the constructor
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum If it behaved like what I said, it would be heaven.. And what Crockford says make sense since the enumerated attribute is not inherited via prototype chain which is silly alltogether....
@BenjaminGruenbaum No it works very well in my system.
 
8:23 AM
If you use typeof (other than the undefined case) and instanceof chances are your design is flawed. Using instanceof is usually indicative of something wrong even in classical languages like Java
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Too general ... No it works very welll look: jsfiddle.net/qM4Pg
the property magic is done via prepCData and it is not included in the source I give.
 
If its easier you wouldn't ask it here, do you? — shiplu.mokadd.im 29 mins ago
 
Hi @Jimbo ...
 
@Ihsan Hey, good weekend?
 
8:33 AM
@Jimbo Fine. Found a lake and quacked sufficiently for Liskov...
 
@Ihsan That would be LIQUID, not SOLID then
 
pastebin.com/B4nAunYC anyone a solution for this/
 
@Jimbo Yep, but that was not WORKDAY that was WEEKEND. :) And How was yours?
 
I receive the error 'Cannot redeclare getContent'
I have 2 function names in 2 files that are the same.
 
Well, there's your error.
 
8:34 AM
I know
 
@Duikboot Then, you've just answered your own question ;) You could use function_exists()
 
@Jack lol
 
Yeah but is there a way to don't let the scope of the require go that deep .. ( can't explain it right I think ) :p
I only want the first getcontent for admin_projects.php and the second one for add_partner
 
@Ihsan Was good thanks, many teas and days out in the lakes
Oh, and watched the new superman!
 
@Jimbo Did you quack too? Wow. Superman can fly and swim, so he is a duck also...
 
8:37 AM
@Duikboot Have you considered namespaces? That might actually hide the problem though ;-)
@Ihsan Superman doesn't really swim, he flies under water.
 
@Ihsan he also learned how to put his underwear inside his clothes in this episode =oP
 
@Jack So he is a pinguin?
 
@Ihsan Lol, I like the thought process "Unicorns cannot fly. I cannot fly. Therefore, I am a Unicorn"
 
g'day
 
@crypticツ looooool
 
8:39 AM
@crypticツ He still didn't listen to his doctor's advice to wear boxers though =S
 
@Jack rofl.... But doc, when I fly so much air current....
 
@Ihsan Does he look like a butler?
@Ihsan Yeah, all that flapping around may not be good either lol
 
@Jack Always, All superman characters are unicode 32.. great chin and neck...
 
@Jack but if he wears boxers he is not that aerodynamic then, also if he wears boxers they are more likely to come flying off when he is flying at the speed of light O_0
 
@Jimbo lol @crypticツ that is the side effect I mentioned above... :D
 
8:41 AM
@crypticツ You'd like that, wouldn't you?
 
look interesting namespaces.
 
namespace SupermansBoxers
 
@crypticツ He would probably need Super Suspenders then :)
 
@Jimbo C'mon you killed the c(h)at. not nice...
 
;D
The fight scenes were really long, like "c'mon, I've seen 1000 skyscrapers blow up now..." <--- not a spoiler
 
8:46 AM
I hate it when I almost finished a project there are bug comming up
 
@Ihsan no he didn't, just multi-tasking trying to setup my first Symfony project, meh so much reading =o(
 
I hate it when ... a bug comes up.
 
@crypticツ Wish you luck and best of algorithms in a snap...
 
I love it when someone else's code has a bug >D
 
@dragon112 I hate it that software programming has contributed to the unnecessary hatred towards innocent insects.
 
8:49 AM
Oh you are ebil @Jack
@crypticツ Hold your horses, insects are NEVER innocent when they are around me.
 
@crypticツ My daughter loves your avatar a lot....
 
@Ihsan I like your movies
Also what is your daughter doing on SO? This is no place for a child, horrible things are said in these chats, lol
 
@crypticツ Ehm... me too :)
@crypticツ School is over and she is (11yo) with me now. She is not so advanced in english but can understand many things so I try to keep her away from SO chat. when gets bored she comes by me so she occasionally sees what is going on... I know I am a baad father.... :D
 
This is still mild in comparison to the crap that goes on in the JavaScript room, what @BenjaminGruenbaum refers to as "classy stuff" :)
 
Hello Ihsan's daughter!!
 
8:55 AM
@dragon112 She says "Hello"
 
Yay ^_^
Now everyone be on your best behavior glances in @Duikboot 's direction
 
tell her she can use it i.stack.imgur.com/W27e8.png
 
@crypticツ Symfony2?
 
Wut it's a huge uhh... kitty xD
 
@Jimbo yes
 
8:57 AM
@crypticツ thank you... <she wrote that ....
 
@crypticツ I love it so far, only started a few weeks ago - knpuniversity.com has some really cool screencasts that walk you through the most important stuff
Basically a shortcut through the manual
 
@Jimbo I haven't even go to Hello World yet =o\
 
@crypticツ Ah, literally starting today then :)
 
@crypticツ Well she is asking many q... ("did she paint it, if yes how, well if so she is talented ..." I am in twouble)
 
@Jimbo yep, just finished setting up server and all, now have to start it. It's going to be my first real paid project, wohooo monies!
 
9:00 AM
@Jack I'm not really following the conversation, sorry
 
@crypticツ Yay :D
 
@crypticツ Free monies! Okay so a good start (bit out of date, but has core concepts) here
 
@Ihsan no I did not paint it, it's a character from Second Life called a Maine Coon, the full image is not what I would call kid friendly, but I cropped the head then added a hat to it. Oh also the cv-ring broom =oP
 
@crypticツ She says "awesome", and I agree with that...
Oh I can work now, she is making transfer glitter tattoos on herself... Time to woooork...
 
oh wow a Hello World example that is not prone to XSS, Symfony is awesome already!
 
9:05 AM
@crypticツ well .. this could turn out quite bad. It is considered to be a high-probability & high-damage risk to create project with framework that you have not used before.
(just something from my "risk management" lectures for that masters degree in "IT project management" that i never get around to finish)
 
@tereško What kind of risks?
 
@crypticツ you know why bugs dont go to church?
 
@Gordon because they can't give money to the religious establishment?
 
@crypticツ because they are in sects.
 
... deep
 
9:09 AM
*slow clap* =oP
 
afternoon
 
awesome pun is awesome
 
@Gordon loool
 
9:12 AM
@Gordon lol xD
 
@crypticツ Having a cat means having kittens in long run. So you carry out the risks of the framework which you do not know in three ways: 1) The bugs of the framework, 2) Your bugs, 3) The bugs which are the result of misuse of framework.
 
Ya, this was funny Your bugs :p
 
@Ihsan Unless they're neutralized =D
 
@Mr.Alien Does not have bugs. They are alien critters...
@Jack lol
 
@Ihsan My army will kill all the earthlings
 
9:19 AM
Grrr, I'm being forced against my will to write classes that have no dependency injection and are coupled :'(
 
@Mr.Alien Why, we are a good livestock of slaves and food?
 
@Ihsan well I gotta start somehow and someday. Practice makes perfect and I'm a fast learner, just be happy I'm someone who reads the actual official documentation opposed to the crazy posts online =oP
 
@Jimbo Quick, jump out the window!
 
@Jack I can't, I'm coupled to everything!
 
@crypticツ Yep, it seems you RTFM which is a very good start.
 
9:21 AM
@Jimbo Before jumping, write a note blaming @Jack
 
lol
 
@Ihsan Actually we have robots, we don't need slaves which are inefficient ...
 
Blame all you want, it's in a service of a fellow code hacker ;-)
 
@Mr.Alien You can not eat robots...
 
@Ihsan That's a lie. Gingerbread robots!
 
9:22 AM
@Ihsan Robos cultivate food
 
@Jack lol.
 
@Ihsan Have you seen jetsons?
 
@Mr.Alien Come on then... This is spartaaaaaa.....
 
@Ihsan yes, we aliens live jetsons life...
 
@Mr.Alien Bother, we live flintstones life...
 
9:25 AM
@Ihsan aa flintstones was good.. drive cars with legs and wear bone necklace.. sweet memories
 
@Mr.Alien Still most advanced tech is made of silicone ... uchips... So a new stone age.
 
@Ihsan it does the job pretty good, new technologies are expensive
 
@Mr.Alien I love clever technologies. I am not after the newest or most advanced. I love steampunk sometimes because of that.
@tereško did you resign? (I hope not).
 
yes , i did
 
Should we open the champagne to celebrate?
 
9:30 AM
I am also fond of new tech but don't spend money often as the next day, some bigger and better thing releases, I buy good headphones, tabs and what not, at the end of the day... pssshhh I wasted my money, recently my PSP was stolen...
 
@Mr.Alien Should have bought the PSNP then ;-)
 
lol, my 180$ wasted...
 
How did it get stolen?
 
@tereško What will you do now? Do you have an alternate?
 
9:33 AM
@crypticツ heh... while( theyPay){ noProblem();} ;)
 
s/unless/while/
 
@Jack mY foolishness.. It was in my pocket, I was getting in a train, rush hour, I heard something fell down, but didn't realized it was the PSP, when I got down immediately, and it was gone
 
I'm wondering what the odds are that @tereško will eventually work for a company where he won't injure his head on the desk every day.
 
@Ihsan it's summer ... i will be talking a 2 month vacation
 
Summer? Your summers are like our winters..
 
9:37 AM
@tereško Clear your head... Well good option.
@Mr.Alien Not so... Climate change is drastic.
 
@Ihsan well, summers were bad this year, heat waves were killing people, though rains are good now, its raining since a week (continuously)...
 
@Mr.Alien The city I live is schizo... Rain sun rain sun...
 
good mornings
ok... good to have @tereško around. I have a question.
 
@Ihsan That's not schizo, it's fickle rather :)
 
I hate rains
 
9:40 AM
Rain == free shower
5
 
@Jack You are my neighbor.. Singapore...
 
@Jack lol.
 
@Jack I didn't knew you were this lazy..
 
@tereško after your vacation do you have a chance to start your own biz?
 
9:42 AM
@HamZa how in the world :P come on.. we know what he is asking for... and what's the errors.. damn you humans
 
@tereško I have daos: Hotel, Room and Transaction... I need to store a transaction. Am I to do the logic in the controller and just use dao to store or just do every thing in the dao such that I'll have $transaction_dao->save(Room $room, Transaction $transaction)?
 
@Mr.Alien I gave him enough time to edit, but he didn't: close the crap ...
 
@tereško you will find a person to deal with the clients so a dream may come true... You work without stupidness around....
 
@HamZa Already done
 
@Ihsan not enough capital
I currently have two 9to5 jobs + freelancing as available options
 
@tereško We say " you need fate, father or father in law to be rich.."(kader, peder, kayınpeder) :|
I hope the best for you...
Have a nice time all, c'ya later....
 
@Jack there are different degrees of stupidity
 
@tereško Can you elaborate ?
 
@tereško Indeed, as there are different degrees of head injuries ;-)
 
this job has succeeded in lowering my expectations
 
9:58 AM
@tereško How much longer?
 
well ... i have to work 30 days after handing in the resignation (it's the law) .. good thing is that there are solstice holidays and after that i have a short vacation arranged after that
 
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A: Can multiple PHP scripts run at the same time?

Martin PerryIt doesnt matter, if it is PHP, C, Java what ever. At the same time can run max only as much processes, as you have CPUs (and cores). There can be running lets say 100 processes at the same time, if you have only 2 cores. Only 2 are running, rest is waiting. Now it depends what you see under run...

Ehmmmm, maybe never heard of task switching lol
 
How many free days can you take @tereško ?
 
@dragon112 you will have to elaborate on that one. What exactly do you want to know?
as it stands, i will have to be 12 more days at work (that's subtracting the holidays, weekends and that short vacation)
 
@tereško This actually answers my question :)
 
Web2Students - why include file when you are re-directing
How strange, most of them are stuck at -7
 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17137526/php-strings-the-same-but-not
 
done
just posted few questions for general cleanup
 
@Mr.Alien 1 day i will cross 7
 
ARGH
I've been endorsed on LinkedIn for jQuery
KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLL MEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
How you want to get killed?
 
lolwut
 
@YogeshSuthar acid
Please make it insulated, but I don't need a rollback
 
Yeah, when it will be ready we will kill you :)
 
10:44 AM
posted on June 17, 2013 by Fabien Potencier

This article is part of a series of articles that explains how to pack a Symfony full-stack application in one file. The first article explains why this might actually be useful. Sometimes, I'm wondering if I'm not just completely crazy. I like small things, but I'm the author of Symfony, a not-so-small framework (about eighty thousand lines of code excluding comments as of today

 
/me throws acid in @Ocramius' face.
 
11:00 AM
Only I feel that LinkedIn sux?
 
@Mr.Alien why?
 
Good Morning
 
@YogeshSuthar I made a site similar to linked in, and why it sux, cuz it has garbage posts, garbage accounts
@ircmaxell morning
 
That's because people actually use it and people are not kind to things they use most of the time.
 
I don't know, may be I am wrong but I feel that website is crap
 
11:16 AM
It's used by many companies and it's meant to help you connect in a professional manner (unlike facebook/twitter)
 
Actually I don't see anything professional thing there, junk posts, junk info, forms accept whatever values you want to write, and I don't see any professional working there
 
most complex stuff I've seen all day
 
@iroegbu Ah I know this, it's meant to control a space ship. Or it looks like it atleast.
 
hahahahahahaha.
 
11:28 AM
Mr. and Mr. Alien same person?
 
Where do you see a 'Mr.'?
I only see a Mr. Alien
 
@dragon112 Flag it as Not a real question. :P
 
I can't. Let's flag as offensive as Mr. Alien will start getting a split personality if this continues. xD
 
hahaha
 
mornig
 
11:39 AM
 
@Gordon Sorry if my question ended up being annoying -_- , that was not my intention.
 
@PeeHaa埽 morning
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum it didnt
 
So, what's the good word?
 
hey all :)
 
11:48 AM
> I wouldn't say I've been missing it Bob...
 
missing what ?
also , mornin'
 
Ducks, the sea and landfill sites get 4G rolled out before houses in Christchurch East … http://t.co/iKIJAM8qXy
 
12:10 PM
@ircmaxell Nice review on Glass
 
thanks!
 
Especially how you trash the hype by stating its not worth the 1500$ right off the bat :)
 
@tereško go watch the movie Office Space
@DamienOvereem I was trying to be realistic and not just say "it rox" or "it sux", but instead provide something realistic and yet honest
 
Obsessed with CSS -> here
 
@DamienOvereem And I didn't say it wasn't worth the price... Read again, I said it wasn't worth the price to most people... It's a very different thing...
 
12:16 PM
Actually tried them last week - I also think it's more like geek stuff for now
but for me (me) it's worth the price
 
:-D
 
@DamienOvereem Oeh do you have a link for that?
 
11 hours ago, by ircmaxell
For your reading pleasure: http://blog.ircmaxell.com/2013/06/google-glass-first-impression.html
 
Awesome thanks
 
off to work, later
 
@ircmaxell Are you actually wearing your Gglasses right now?
 
Hello world!
 
@zerkms That guy means 4G works nicely when you're on a flat body of water, but not when you're standing between lots of tall buildings? INCONCEIVABLE!
2
 
I am trying to make a foreignk key..
I want all the return of concat('colum','limiter') to be subset of records in another table
Is that possible?
 
@ircmaxell the part about the epic navigation: that is probably going to be groundbreaking in sports like biking, it sounds awesome ^^
 
12:35 PM
Maybe a trigger could help
 
@CarrieKendall I agree, I love to ride my bike and navigation sounds pretty damn awesome. I do wonder what the battery life of the Gglass is when you use it continuously for navigation..
 
but i don't know how to create this trigger
 
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Q: Sprite image returns with "image not found" icon in the middle

jordan6I'm using sprite image with 6 different image line up in a row, each pic is 75x75. When I load the images, they have the "image-not-found" icon in the middle. here's the code of 2 images: CSS img.freebo { width: 75px; height: 75px; background: #fff url('../images/teacher-sprite.jpg') 0 ...

can't debug "image not found"
 
@ircmaxell I just liked the way how you stated it.. For the average person, hell no. For the average geek, hell no. Brought it into perspective nicely,.
 
PHP guys :D
hi there
 
12:49 PM
@CarrieKendall lolz
 
ZeroToOne, OneToMany, ZeroToMany -- the last, ZeroToMany is driving me batty because its 1 more character than the former two.
 
@TobyHinloopen yellow
 
Morning Folks!
 
it's 3PM
but k, Mornin'!
 
12:56 PM
@TobyHinloopen UGT!
where is that btw?
 
@TobyHinloopen GMT +2?
 
uk?
ok
btw, i have a question on zend framework
cooooool! :-)
@Ryan you from?
 
@udaysagar I'm from Ohio, US
 
if i give $mynamespace = Zend_Session_Namespace('mynamespace'); in some controller
i want to know whether that namespace is valid in other controller of the same module
is that also valid in some other module?
 

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