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8:14 AM
Morning Jo!
 
mornin'
 
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buon giorno
 
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morning every1
 
Hola
 
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hey!
 
8:19 AM
good night
 
8:34 AM
Goede morgen!
 
@MarioS Morning
 
morguh
 
oh man, this sendmail crap is giving me headache!
It's too quiet here treats everyone to a cup of coffee
 
thanks
not that I drink coffee, but still, thanks :P
 
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@MarioS already had 4 cup of coffee this morning (italian espresso coffee)... and i'm still KO
 
8:48 AM
I have a remedy for that.
 
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i want a new drug
 
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one that won't make me sick
 
Weird phenomenon called: Sleep
2
 
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one that won't make me crash my car
 
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or make me feel 3 feet thick
 
8:53 AM
Years ago I wrote a function that if ($_GET['showquery'] == 'true') outputs my db query into my db abstraction
That function still makes into just about non-production code I write
And man, it's just so easy to just add ?showquery=true to the url when you suspect something is wrong with your query!
 
@Jasper i'm more suprised you're still using something you wrote years ago
@Jasper just make it also look for the development environment and set that
 
Mornings
 
@andho I'm not using the same thing I wrote that long ago, it's just that I keep moving and recreating that function
 
@Jasper wouldn't it be better just to log the queries into a file when in development stage?
unless you're not a friend of the command line
 
/me wonders how useful it would be to echo your query when you are using prepared statements...
 
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9:01 AM
@DaveRandom morning... how did you resolved the IS NULL or = NULL thing? xD
 
@andho Probably. It's more about the ease of use here, add to the url once and you have your query right in front of you. And though I do consider myself a friend of the command line, I'm mostly a Windows user and don't do much of my php work on the command line
(I am currently using git from the commandline and I do have the feeling that the day I regularly boot into linux instead of Windows is drawing near)
 
@wes Definitely needs an IS NULL, but I realised it's not that much of an issue. When you are comparing a column with NULL it should be a special case so it doesn't matter that you need a special query. I have modified my abstraction in one project to use IS NULL if the value === NULL and log a message, haven't seen a single one logged yet apart from a couple I mocked up to make sure it was working.
 
@DaveRandom I'll see what to do with it when I get there. I'll probably use prepared statements when I start a new project and the one I am working on right now will probably have to switch over some time (albeit for the performance gain, the escaping isn't an issue)
 
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yes it is a very specific case, but depends how you use null... i use null a lot... and i always fell in the null comparison problem!!
 
@Jasper It's unlikely you will get a performance gain from prepared statements unless you are executing the same query multiple times (from a single ->prepare() call). If anything it's a (microscopic) performance hit in terms of talking to the DB, and while you avoid a bunch of string concats putting the values into the query you lose that advantage as soon as you have a dynamic query as constructing the query can be way more complicated.
@wes Remember that NULL means "no value". I see a lot of databases where people store NULL when they should be storing a default value for the column. But I do concede that I was wrong and you were right about how one should compare with it.
 
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9:13 AM
i'm talking obviously about the cases where casting matters, when "IS" is really required... lot of databases allows null randomly and i don't like that... my fields are always NOT NULL unless i really need NULL
 
@DaveRandom I'll have to take a very close look at things and it may be long time from now before that happens, but I think it might actually give me a better performance in some cases. (However, I'm working on a system that maps user defined objects to a database, and then let's the objects be used by the user, so things like performance are a thorny issue)
 
Oh man I wish someone could've held my hand through this sendmail/postfix bullsh*t
 
@Jasper The key point is that true prepared statements involve two round trips to the server (one for query and one for data). But the second time you execute the query there is only one, and the query has already been parsed and an execution plan drawn up so none of that overhead exists second time around, or subsequent executions. If you executed the query say a few hundred times (say for some custom import/merge routine) there would be a noticeable performance gain.
If you are using PDO with a driver that supports true prepared statements, don't forget to disable emulated prepares (!!)
 
hi all
 
@MarioS I have long held the opinion that the E in Email actually stands for "Evil".
 
9:20 AM
Amen to that brother.
 
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@DaveRandom aren't prepared statements implemented in php?
 
iirc you need to use mysqli or pdo for prepared statements
it's not native in PHP I think
 
@wes How do you mean? Can you expand on that?
 
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i mean... substitution is made within php's internals or by mysql itself?
 
@wes With PDO emulated prepares that is the case. But true prepared statements are handled by the server.
 
9:24 AM
@DaveRandom Seeing that I am basically making a library that can be used to work with your own database and users might indeed do things repeatedly, it's at least worth investigating. But am I right in concluding that you don't think it's a thing that matters performance-wise?
 
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@DaveRandom ok... i will investigate
 
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now i should join paypal again... my head... the wall...
 
Morning all. Freezing fog here this morning, awful journey to work
 
9:39 AM
@Jasper I don't think it matters performance wise in the day to day operation of the site, because usually you only execute a given query once per page load, and the performance difference (in either direction) is a few ms. You'd never notice the difference.
 
@Jimbo M6 north is complete f*cked apparently, some accident around Preston, I guess you're too far north for that to affect you though
 
@DaveRandom Morning :)
 
posted on January 09, 2013 by Derick Rethans

Tweaking the Logitech R400 presenter tool on Linux London, UK Wednesday, January 9th 2013, 09:21 GMT For Christmas I received a Logitech R400 presenter tool as a replacement for the php|architect one that has now fallen apart. However, to use it together with my presentation system—pres2, about which I previously wrote—I need it to

 
hi
to all
i would like to get all the client info using php like hostname,ip & more
how it is possible
 
9:46 AM
@PeeHaa Yo yo. You'd gone to bed by the time I did it but last nights commit completely removes the need to start Chrome to build the crx, and generates an update manifest file for the package at the same time :-) - nearly done the same with FF, once I have I'm going to start work on a unified abstract build system with it's own manifest format, and after that I'm going to finish up the Opera port, assuming I can get mutation events to behave themselves >:(
Then the whole thing is completely modular with a rigid interface and new apps can just be plugged into it with a single controller
Still not sure what to do about settings UIs though, ideally I'd like to take a data structure and auto-generate them but that is not a simple thing to do with XUL vs HTML, need to sit down and have a proper think about it.
 
hi
to all
i would like to get all the client info using php like hostname,ip & more
how it is possible
 
@SVarun Go away and RTFM
 
@SVarun $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] is the best option you have, and it's by no means perfect. That gives you the connected client IP, from which you can do a PTR query to get the hostname (N.B. MAC addresses are meaningless on the internet). What is "more"?
@Leigh lol, I see you're in a fine and helpful mood this morning :-P
 
@DaveRandom Obviously spamming inane non-researched garbage is the way to make me happy!
 
(I remember finding the docs for $_SERVER v confusing when I was a lot greener so I do sympathise with requests like that)
 
9:52 AM
@DaveRandom
 
i'll just go for avatar shrink I guess.
It's not so much the content, but the presentation and repetition ;)
 
@Leigh What you mean by this sir Go away and RTFM
 
@SVarun He's politely suggesting that you read this.
 
ok
thanks
 
I was more suggesting google "php get client ip" etc.
which clearly has 0 results
 
9:55 AM
ok
one more thing
can help me ?
@DaveRandom what is PTR
 
@SVarun Reverse DNS lookup
 
Hi, quick question: I want a regex that checks if a string is not exactly 4 digits. Right now I have a check that cheks only for digits: $pattern = '/[^0-9]/'; checks for everything that is not a number. now I want everything that is not a number or is not exactly 4 digits
 
@DaveRandom thank's
 
It's an abbreviation of the word "pointer" if you're interested
 
@DaveRandom Cool!
 
9:58 AM
@DaveRandom i would like to send custome header in php and connect to a site with custom header is that possible
 
Good day everyone!
 
Hello @Eugene
 
G'day :)
 
Guys, is there something like array_inject in php?
 
@DaveRandom i mean if my REMOTE_ADD == "192.168.0.89" And in php i can Change it as REMOTE_ADD = "192.168.0.66"
 
9:59 AM
@DaveRandom I'll keep it in mind. I'll have to look at it in the context of what I am making still, but your insights are most definitely helpful
 
@Zim84 Should be something like /^(?!\d{4})$/
 
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@Eugene what is array_inject for?
 
untested, negative match, \d (digits) 4x
 
And Connect To A SITE with the CUSTOM REMOTE_ADDR
 
@wes array inject
 
10:00 AM
@Leigh Won't work, lookahead is zero width, the start and end of subject assertions will break it I think. You'd have to do ^(?!\d{4}).*$ which isn't perfect either because it will fail on a string that is not 4 digits but starts with 4 digits.
 
@SVarun You're not making that much sense and it seems you are now trying to do something completely different from your original question.
 
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@Eugene array_fill ? array_sum ?
 
@Leigh thanks. Found this answer in the meantime: stackoverflow.com/questions/4374185/…
 
@Jasper as i am new to it so kindly help pls
 
10:02 AM
@wes what about them?
 
@SVarun No. That's a function of TCP/IP, it's just not possible with anything. It's theoretically possible but not that useful with things like UDP, but with anything TCP based you can't spoof addresses unless you can hijack a router between you and the server (and the route to the address you are spoofing).
 
@SVarun that has nothing to do with talking in a way that's really hard to decipher for us and that's what you are doing right now
 
@PeeHaa Hi!
 
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@Eugene enums don't exist in php, you have to do it manually, i think
 
@Zim84 That checks if a string is exactly 4 digits, I guess you could see if that matches, then just negate the match, but it's not technically a regex to match anything that is not 4 digits :)
@DaveRandom you're right
 
10:05 AM
@wes okay, you completely lost me.
 
/([^0-9].{3}|.[^0-9].{2}|.{2}[^0-9].|.{3}[^0-9])/
 
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@Eugene probably, because i simply can't understand rubys syntax xD
 
@Jasper Pretty horrible :p
 
@Leigh @Zim84 Thing is, it's probably easiest to just match exactly 4 digits and negate the return value of preg_match() - do the negating in PHP and the regex becomes a lot simpler and the logic is just as clear
 
@wes emmm. This is PHP room, you know?
 
10:06 AM
@DaveRandom Aye indeed
 
@PeeHaa codepad.org/tsYfKXCK any thoughts?
 
@Leigh Sometimes the best answer is horrible when talking about regexes
 
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@Eugene yes but you are asking a for a php equivalent that exists only in ruby i think
 
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@Eugene am i wrong?
 
@DaveRandom If he wants to capture the characters in question (and the string is longer than 4 characters) that won't work
 
10:08 AM
@Eugene what is it?
 
@DaveRandom: you can spoof TCP, but there's no way you'd complete the handshake ;-)
 
@Jasper if (preg_match('/^\d{4}$/', $subject) === 0) { // string is not exactly a 4 digit number } - and if he wants to capture, the match is $subject in it's entirity
 
@Jasper Capture which characters? The first 4? why not just substr()?
 
@Eugene Change if ( isset( $array[ $pos ] ) ) to array_key_exists
 
@Oyeme what does it look like? :)
@PeeHaa but isset is faster, no?
 
10:09 AM
(?<!^\d{4})$ might work actually
 
@Eugene im mean,what's the main idea? to merge two arrays into one?
 
@Oyeme no. Did you look at the output?
 
@Leigh He said I want each occurrence of something other than 4 digits, which does suggest a string larger than 4 characters. If the string is 4 characters yours is better, there's no question about that
 
@Eugene ahum micro optimization
Also think about this:
$array[0] = null;
var_dump(isset($array[0])); // false
 
@Eugene yea. test,test1,test2,test4,test5
looks like array_merge
 
10:12 AM
@PeeHaa Ahhh. Now that is a catch :)
 
:D
 
@Oyeme try a pos parameter.
 
@DaveRandom the first occurrence of a four characters that aren't all numbers or something. That's the regex he was asking for and thus he might be doing something with that actually
 
@Leigh (?<!^\d{4})$ does work - do a lookbehind that asserts beginning of string followed by end of string assertion, would also work if you flip that logic.
 
@Jasper I can't find the part where that's what he wants, but it's kind of moot now anyway
 
10:14 AM
Thing is, "I want a valid year" is just "I want a valid integer". PHP_INT_MAX is still a valid year ID, just one that's a very long way in the future.
Assuming it's not after heat death, I'm not sure how long that has been calculated to be but I pretty certain it's larger than the bounds of a 64-bit int,
 
@PeeHaa but main question remains. Do you know is there something built-in php already for, that purpose, or not yet?
 
@DaveRandom how true is this, will Mysql or any other database accept any integer for the year part of a date field?
 
@Eugene Looks remarkably like array_splice() to me...
 
@DaveRandom emm are you sure?
 
@DaveRandom And in the distant future when they use a different calendar, they'll see that your application only takes dates up to year x and take it that the world ends after that year
 
10:18 AM
@andho No idea. I think most DBMS engines store dates as ints, so it won't work for dates larger than the bounds of that int, but different engines store this in different ways AFAIK
 
@DaveRandom no i mean, when inserting a date we send it in the query as '2013-01-09'
will it also except '10423-01-09'
 
@andho Incidentally been looking at the documentation for this, and for MySQL it matters which data type you use, but even the most liberal of types allows no years above 9999
 
hence, "I want a valid date" most probably means atleast today plus or minus 1 century
 
not century i guess
 
hello everyone
can anybody tell me about slug
 
MySQL DateTime: supported range is '1000-01-01 00:00:00' to '9999-12-31 23:59:59'.
 
@RohitGoel Hi! Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slug
 
TIMESTAMP has a range of '1970-01-01 00:00:01' UTC to '2038-01-19 03:14:07' UTC.
 
@webarto so funny
i am talking about slug in mysql
 
10:22 AM
Glad I could help!
 
@DaveRandom nice. Seemes to solve my Q. Thanks.
 
@andho Yeh so what I mean is that the underlying integer for 10423-01-09 is very large. So while it is a valid date, if it is stored underneath as, for the sake of simplicity lets say a unix timestamp, on a 32-bit system it's outside the storable range. But it's still a valid date and (I think, cba doing the math) on a 64-bit system it will be no problem.
@Jasper unix timestamp
 
morning ...
 
10:26 AM
Stupid people using signed integers for inappropriate things.
Man I wish PHP had a native unsigned int type sometimes.
@NullPointer Yo
 
@andho acctualy i want to know how it works
 
and in php when we(idk but i ) dont declare variable of specific datatype
 
@DaveRandom Agreed. Interestingly enough, it's not an implementation detail, as TIMESTAMP is the one that's from the SQL standard and DateTime is the one MySQL has had longer
 
It's weird that they haven't updated it for 64-bit. 2039 is not that far in the future. You can't sign up a 30 year contract with a DATETIME.
 
hey all!
 
10:33 AM
@DaveRandom The real world has updated (or actually, for the larger part wasn't even outdated to begin with). It's just the standard that's falling behind. Not that uncommon a thing to happen...
 
@Dezigo hi
 
@Oyeme hi :)
 
@Jasper Mmhmm (sideways glance at HTTP)
 
@DaveRandom By 2039 we'll all be 128bit+ for sure.
 
@Jasper 2038 date() apocalypse
:)
 
10:38 AM
@Leigh But that's of little consolation if you want to sign a 30 year contract right now
 
@Leigh: if we've finally upgraded to IPv6 by then ;-)
 
Actually what's really odd about that is that they have limited it to the bounds of the positive side of a signed 32-bit int. You can't store <1970 either, which you should be able to
 
@PeeHaa :D It's 2012 all over again (or is that Y2k, or Y2k 2001?)
 
:P
 
@Jasper Why? Just sign it, in 30 years nobody will care due to the whole C'thulhu thing
 
10:41 AM
@NiekBergman IPv6 is a damp squib. Take up is slow because it's half a job. Unfortunately we'll have to go with it for now because of the address space use but I very much hope it will be fairly short lived.
 
@DaveRandom I think the strangest thing is that the standard prescribes dates outside that range should fail rather than just not requiring the DBMSs to succeed. That's basically the root of the whole problem
 
niekie.com currently supports IPv6 through some evilness :-)
(website is hosted on an IPv4 server, but I have an IPv6 server that currently does Varnish cache forwarding to the IPv4 server :P)
 
@DaveRandom I have to disagree, take-up is slow because people are lazy, and it's not really damp, been using it for nearly 10 years myself
@NiekBergman I have native IPv6 on my VPS' too
 
@Leigh But if it's a digital contract in a standards compliant TIMESTAMP field, you're screwed and the signing will fail, so you won't be able to properly benefit from the dark one's coming
 
No native IPv6 on my VPS, only on the dedi I have.
Can't set reverse for that, though. Grrr.
 
10:43 AM
@Leigh People always come out with the argument along the lines of "takeup is only slow because there's so much to change" but that's complete bollocks. Most internet routers already run on hardware that has supported it for ages, and just look at how fast 802.11 advances become available. Takeup is slow because there's a lot to change for very little gain.
The only major internet players that I am aware of who provide IPv6 access to their services are Google and FB.
 
@DaveRandom Screw this, I'm going to build my own internet, with blackjack, and hookers!
oh wait :x
 
One of the other problems is manufacturers are still cranking out devices that ONLY support IPv4. #!@$&*( fu*(@$* dam&$*@!
 
@NiekBergman You're buying hardware from the wrong suppliers :-P
 
@DaveRandom: Try to find an IPv6 enabled networked security camera. You'll find surprisingly few.
 
@NiekBergman It's a little expensive for the average user, but I use one of these: amazon.co.uk/Billion-BiPAC-7800N-Broadband-Wireless-N/dp/…
 
10:46 AM
@NiekBergman Yeh I'd like to find one that works before I worry about how it works.
@Leigh Draytek ftw
 
@Leigh: Oh, I'm not really talking about routing devices.
Those do fortunately support IPv6 most of the time nowadays.
More consumer devices... buy a nice networked radio to listen to web radio, IPv6? Nope!
 
@DaveRandom I got this one because when I switch to fiber I wont need new hardware
@NiekBergman thing is, for LANs IPv4 is still perfectly acceptable imo, you're never going to exhaust the address space.
 
Networked printer, no IPv6 either. I'm looking at you, HP.
@Leigh: sure, but it's a hassle because you're going to have to run dual-stack forever then.
 
@NiekBergman For the interim at least
 
Not that much of a problem admittedly, but ah well.
 
10:50 AM
@Leigh broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=10020 - I already run a DSL and Virgin through that, bullet proof. Only time I have ever seen a Draytek die (touch wood) is when I broke it by putting the wrong fw binary on it, and even then you can hard-reset it into TFTP mode, it took me about 15 mins to fix.
 
But yeah, for networked radios or printers that accept print jobs over the internet (like HPs ePrint tech) it sucks that these things just won't support it.
 
Didn't we have a reference for converting mysql_* to pdo?
 
@PeeHaa I started one, never finished it though.
 
a right. link please :)
 
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Q: How do I convert a dynamically constructed ext/mysql query to a PDO prepared statement?

DaveRandomI am converting some of my code that used ext/mysql (mysql_*() functions) to PDO and prepared statements. Previously when I was dynamically constructing queries I simply passed my strings through mysql_real_escape_string() and dropped them straight into my query, but now I find I need to pass the...

 
@DaveRandom No wifi?
 
^^ everyone please update that as you see fit
@Leigh There's an 802.11n MIMO version but I don't ever use wireless routers for anything. One box for one job. Buy an AP.
Actually that's not true, I have been know to use old wireless routers as APs, but everything still only has one job to do.
 
@DaveRandom Meh, PCs are wired at home, but tablets/phones/laptops all need wifi :)
 
@Leigh £50 can buy you a very good AP these days. It's not like 5 years ago when they were more expensive than routers. I never understood that. I don't see the point in spending a lot on an AP in a non-commercial environment, 2.4 GHz wireless is always going to be crap, there's so much junk in the band, plus most endpoints have crappy cards anyway.
 
@DaveRandom If I can get email in bed, I'm happy
 
10:58 AM
peckfortoncastle.co.uk <-- I put an 802.11 network in there a couple of years ago, some of the wals are 4ft thick sandstone. There's an area that's about 30 cubic metres with 4 APs in it in one part of the building. Was a real bugger to get the channel balances right.
I have been in parts of that building that the owners have never seen
Plus it's Grade I listed so you can't have any cables on show
 
@DaveRandom I worked for a local authority once, and we needed to set up comms links to satellite sites. We set up laser (line of sight) links in the clock tower of the town hall - which meant going through the roof of the town hall (which is a protected building) - loads of weird shit in there.
Link failed during rain, fog, etc :D
 
It's in a pretty neat place, if you stand on the roof of the main tower on a clear day you can see into the centre on Manchester, Liverpool and Chester from the same place.
 
Hey guys I would like to create a landing page for my website and I was thinking to change the landing page to "index.php" and have my actual index named differently.. too sloppy?
 
Don't you have pretty URLs?
 
not yet
 
11:01 AM
@Leigh Yeh we did some work in Oldham town hall once, there's loads of really random antique stuff stored in the cellars, apparently local authorities would rather pay to store that trash it/sell it, even though it's completely useless to them
There was a room with well over 50 type-writers in it
@Leigh Long range hi-band (5.6GHz) radio is way better than lasers these days for that exact reason, although if someone tells you they use Wimax then hang up immediately and talk to somebody else.
 
@DaveRandom This was 10 years ago, and I didn't have any say in the method being used. I just had to hang the laser up and point it in the right direction :)
 
today new updates are available for firefox :)
 
Oh goodie. Let's see what they've broken in cv-pls...
 
Dafuq? Do I have to update firefox every day or something?
 
oh yeah, 18.0 !
 
11:11 AM
> Improvement in startup time through smart handling of signed extension certificates
 
@DaveRandom lol :(
 
smart
I lol'd
 
@DaveRandom Going to be a problem?
 
I am suspicious. It took me a long time to get that right, will have to test...
 
@MarioS It's a new major version every 6 weeks, big changes or no (oh well, this one is actually a week late). It's nothing less than cheap version number padding...
 
I suspected as much
 
> Plugins stop rendering when the top half of the plugin is scrolled off the top of the page, in HiDPI mode (see 825734)
wat
To me that is a "don't release yet" problem
> For some users, scrolling in the main GMail window will be slower than usual (see 579260)
As is that
 
@MarioS My mistake, it's not that this version is late, it's that they decided to take a breather and have three versions starting with 18 take a whole extra week in development
@DaveRandom Well, yeah, that's what you get when you've got a release cycle that is stuck at such a low amount of time...
 
Why would you even consider it to be a "cycle" just fix your issues and only issue an emergency update if it concerns security
 
Probably some of the most interesting examples when talking about that are Debian and Ubuntu. Debian does the things the way you suggest them: no forced release schedule. As a result major versions take years and will have many outdated packages, but because there is a rather strict policy on what gets into a stable, it is considered quite stable.
 
hello everyone
 
Ubuntu does really do the release cycle thing, but does a 6 month cycle and thus they have a very solid system in which backwards compatibility is broken every once in a while, but at a decent pace that doesn't force to come up with new stuff merely for making your version number increase reasonable.
 
I had an issue with connecting to gmail server with pop3, can anyone help
 
?
 
11:31 AM
(Ubuntu also makes sure it's not version number padding by simply making the version number equal to the month the version was released)
 
if( false == $objPop3->connect( 'pop.gmail.com', $port="995" ) ) {
$this->cprintln( 'Error while connecting.' );
display( $objPop3->error );
return;
}
i even tried with $objPop3->tls = 1;
 
@ScoRpion... What is $objPop3 an instance of? What is the output of that code?
 
@Dave its instance of pop3 library class
 
@ScoRpion... so what's the problem?
 
@PeeHaa No we're good I think, it survived the auto upgrade without FF bitching about it and still (at first glance) working - certainly I have oneboxes etc.
 
11:36 AM
How does the PHP chat room feel about cv-pls requests outside the PHP tag?
Like this
 
@dave @Oyeme and i am getting Error while sandysand.
<pre>POP3 connect() - Error: POP3 _getnextstring() - Socket_Timeout_reached.</pre>
Error while connecting.
<pre>POP3 connect() - Error: POP3 _getnextstring() - Socket_Timeout_reached.</pre>
 
@ScoRpion... That's a network error. Is PHP allowed to make outbound socket connection by you firewall? Can you connect to it from another email client running on the same machine?
 
user50049
@Pekka웃 Not entirely uncommon, but the cv-pls tag is more or less tolerated by others in the community as it's in the best interests of users curating a tag
 
@DaveRandom yay!
 
@Dave if i try it with other mail client it works fine
Is there a chance i can use pop3 without touching the firewaal
*firewall
 
11:42 AM
@Pekka웃 Related: github.com/cv-pls/cv-pls/issues/29 - I too would like to know the answer to this question. @rlemon comes in here to cv request JS questions sometimes, and I have on occasion seen cv requests in the JS room. At the end of the day, a bad question is a bad question.
@ScoRpion... It depends how aggressive your firewall is. Most firewalls don't aren't configured to care about outbound traffic but some do. Do you have a link to the code for that class you are using?
 
looks like doxygen.org got a redesign (though it's strange that it's actually redirected to another url)
and I don't really like it...
 
@DaveRandom thanks. (and Tim) yeah, I agree - at the end of the day, a bad question is a bad question, as long as it doesn't take an expert in a non-PHP tag to understand why it is bad...
 
flashes everywhere and too neatly outlined differently colored links make it harder to find what you are looking for..
 
12:04 PM
@Pekka웃 If they are NARQ, too localised, or duplicates, it should be easy for us to pass judgement. I don't care about cv-pls outside of the PHP tag for those, because it still benefits SO if we help clean up other areas too.
 
You should read all the links of this generic comment >Please, don't use mysql_* functions in new code. They are no longer maintained and are officially deprecated. See the red box? Learn about prepared statements instead, and use PDO or MySQLi - this article will help you decide which. If you choose PDO, here is a good tutorial. — shiplu.mokadd.im 48 secs ago
 
Actually I guess we should be able to detect all of the close options in other tags, after reviewing what they are
poor @hakre, we're closing questions before he can edit them :P
 
@cab Thanks I guess :D
 
user1125394
@MarioS 18 stars
 
user1125394
you are famous man --------------------------------------------------------------------->
 
user1125394
anyway just found the only common point between erlang and javascript, it's the undefined syntax word
 
12:33 PM
I just hope the majority of them realize that I was being sarcastic, otherwise I probably don't have a reputation anymore, joking as if I had any reputation.
 
@hakre how is the war on going?
 
@Leigh you missed it?
 
Oh it got synonymed
wow, that was a long time coming
 
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Q: Tag synonym [php5] to [php]

TheLQRight now there are 3 tags for php: [php] (52,704), [php5] (2,477), and [php4] (170). However if you look at the state of the [php5] tag, it seems most questions are tagged blindly with php5, even though it applys to php in general. Should we distinguish languages based solely on versions? Righ...

 
huzzah
 
12:35 PM
time to lunch
 
Yea I knew that some more pressure was being applied there during December, didn't know it had actually happened :D
 
@Leigh We won. Finally.
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php6 is finally empty too
 
I love . Feels like calling in air support in a losing battle
 
12:37 PM
@Pekka웃 Today it feels more like an orbital strike
 
I need more rep, so I can fight 'fo mah peeple'
 
We should probably think more about this suggestion:
yesterday, by Alexander
I want a "RTFM" option in the closing reasons that accepts a link to a documentation page!
 
morning
 
Happily accepting delvs now :)
@NikiC morning
 
@hakre An option under exact duplicate to link directly to the PHP manual? :)
 
12:39 PM
@Leigh Well to have a good close reason and OP must first gather some support for re-opening to make clear why that's a question.
@NikiC Good morning :)
 
How to make FullCalendar to display only select month and date
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14234634/how-to-make-fullcalendar-to-display-only-select-month-and-date
 
@PeeHaa To be fair, it was Christmas day. Even I only logged on on Christmas day to keep the consecutive day counter going (yes I am that sad)
 
@hakre Hasn't that been suggested and rejected countless times on meta?
 
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Q: Introduce a "general reference" close reason

PekkaThere is a certain amount of questions that are absolutely trivial in nature: How to format a date, how to concatenate a string, et cetera. Questions that could be solved by taking a look into the manual. Random examples from the tags I frequent: php timestamp function needed http://stackoverf...

 
12:45 PM
lol
 
I think more about a community redacted top-list where users can place reference (duplicate questions, manual links) and vote up/down these resources per question.
This would make sense in keeping different wording for the same problem and also taking into account that there are often more than one answer to a question.
New beta site: asked-before.stackoverflow.com - Where you can ask if your question has been asked before on SO :)
 
@Pekka웃 The problem there is, it's "general reference" not "specific reference" - And by specific it should be to an authoritive source (i.e. product manual) - However the link thing really only works in the context of SO, because they control the fact that links within their own site should never break.
 
@all Hi
 
I think we can ask again, if we ask only for "canonical documentation" where rather than too simple to answer, the question has to be trivially answered by the documentation of the language/library/...
It avoids all the arguments brought up against it
One could even imagine a list of allowed authoritative documentation domains that are allowed (possibly linked to the tags a question has)
(Ah yes, I see now that @Leigh basically said the same thing (including the same word "authoritative")
@Alex_ios Hi
 
@DaveRandom > visited 750 days, 26 consecutive :(
I killed it when I went to Germany to drink
 
12:59 PM
@PeeHaa Rookie mistake :-P
> 512 days, 465 consecutive
Yay 512!
 

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