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10:00
I did completely mean to ridicule you, but it turns out to have been totally undeserved and the robot is the real villain of the story
I feel that I should mention this as often as possible to everyone who will listen
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@BartekBanachewicz Syntax erreur.
@Zoidberg shush Tony.
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#define merde throw
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Damn.
10:02
lol
someone asked to list all possible sub-graphs of a given graph .. why'd someone do that ?
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Because it's his hobby.
All possible sub-graphs?
.. of a given graph G
@DeadMG The robot is the villain of the story more often that the puppy IME
#define kNameLabelFontSize 22
#define kStatusLabelFontSize 12
#define kCommentlabelFontSize 14
...
wtf is that
10:06
^ awesome
@Mikhail exactly
for one note, all of them have k as a prefix
it doesn't mean it's k
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Has anyone ever used -O4 in clang?
number of -O is too damn high
10:09
@Ell This is the final version, made to run as well as possible with the constraints you said before. It'll work with opaque types and integer-style handle types, in OpenGL. Thanks to @R.MartinhoFernandes for helping me clean up swap and making sure movability was all right. It's meant to be 100% drop-in replacable for GLuint. You can customize it with the deleter: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/…
And now, it's time to give up.
@Zoidberg build all my code with -O6 but the speedup is about 1.5. Not worth the hassle.
@KhaledAKhunaifer Convention
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-O6 doesn't exist in clang.
-O11
Xeo
Xeo
-O∞
10:10
@Zoidberg It works and according to my benchmarks it beats -O3, you should try it sometime
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-O4 outputs LLVM bitcode and does link-time optimizations.
@ThePhD Are we cool? I can suggest a couple more improvements if you are interested.
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But I can't find in the documentation whether it will do any other optimizations.
^ clang with -O6
10:11
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's fine, I was just mostly confused. In the end, I might as well just build it on top of std::unique_ptr anyhow, using a deleter_wrapper or something.
@Zoidberg grep the source?
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@Mikhail hahahahaha grep on clang source-code.
FTR, I feel this one is important enough to mention: make that operator bool explicit!
@Zoidberg I use Gentoo and am the master race
@R.MartinhoFernandes But then how do you do if ( myhandle ) ?
10:12
If you make a handle<GLuint> h; and accidentally write glCompileShader(h) instead of glCompileShader(h.get()) it passes a 1!
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@ThePhD :face-fucking-palm:
It's not too far-fetched.
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if is practically explicit cast to bool.
@ThePhD It works :) That's the beauty of it.
... Oh.
I never knew that.
TIL.
10:13
@Mikhail then grep on its source, I dare you
@R.MartinhoFernandes I can see OpenGL doing that, what not being a C api.
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@BartekBanachewicz s/'//
Why not use unspecified-bool-types instead?
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s/[/p/
10:14
@ThePhD It's not the OpenGL, it's the C++ :(
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@kbok Why not use Haskell instead?
@Zoidberg why not shut up instead?
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Why not ban me instead?
The function takes an int, and handle gets converted to bool, and then to int.
@Zoidberg Why not try professional cycling instead?
10:14
Last time I saw someone trying to use Haskell with OpenGL he wasn't able to display a triangle
you even edited this Q
@kbok Well, if you cannot use explicit, sure.
use explicit, we ain't medieval no more
You get "backward" compatibility
Xeo
Xeo
10:16
@BartekBanachewicz inb4 MSVC
and oh, MSVS still doesn't support it, no?
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lol impure explicit operator bool() const.
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So evil.
@Xeo aahaha fucking knew it
Well, not everyone can drop vs2010
Xeo
Xeo
10:17
I think CTP had it
oh well then
But no one can use the CTP.
I don't care as for Minicraft
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In 2017, MSVC will have full support for C++11.
Anyway, you can either implement this simple thing or tell a truckload of people to fo fuck themselves, so.
10:18
@kbok so the latter obviously :)
@BartekBanachewicz Of course, it's opensource after all
@kbok Unless you are writing a library it's not a big problem. Windows users expect binaries anyway.
@R.MartinhoFernandes BUT WINDOWS XP
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And this is why closed-source compilers suck erect donkey cock.
damn you nvidia why the fuck you require separate PhysX dev account
oh wait
10:20
Does it make any sense to specify both of these?
Are you still shopping around, or already picked?
dev.ageia.com
std::ios_base::ate | std::ios_base::app
Xeo
Xeo
ios_base ate the app.
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10:20
Probably depends on a clusterfuck of state. It's I/O streams, after all.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have decided I will go the Carmack way
Nov 17 '12 at 14:48, by Jerry Coffin
@Xeo So, the effect is fairly simple: when/if you specify ate, it should seek to the end as you create the stream. If you specify app, it should stay positioned at the beginning when you create the stream, but seek to the end immediately before doing a write. For example, if you specify app, and call tellp, it should return 0. Only after writing to the file should it have seeked to the end.
Ok. So it is just about the initial condition.
i.e. "do it both (all) ways and see which is the best"
Why do we need such things? Isn't it just simpler to ask the API client to seek() himself?
10:21
So I am going to branch my code into Bullet and PhysX versions
and implement the same basic set of functionality
then pick.
Xeo
Xeo
@kbok have fun seeking a network stream. Or cout. or whatever.
@kbok No, because that is racy.
@Xeo Then ate and app make no sense anyway...
Xeo
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, but you don't have to care that they do nothing, no?
@R.MartinhoFernandes What do you mean by "racy"?
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fopen FTW.
10:23
> Lively, entertaining, and sexually titillating.
@kbok Prone to race conditions.
@kbok Someone can write in between your seek and write
And then you're no longer writing at the end
So it seeks everytime you do a write, not just the first time?
Ah ok. Cool
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10:25
And it's atomic.
I am back. I groped the clang source. References to O4 are sparse. Seems to enable -flto and then the variable literally becomes O3
@Zoidberg can we make a nuke of it ?
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Basically a flag in the kernel that says "this file descriptor is in append mode".
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@KhaledAKhunaifer it's probably being used in nukes…
We should all use real compilers like nvcc
10:26
@Zoidberg ios_base::app is used in nukes?
@Zoidberg I think you just need to define chain reactions
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@kbok No, append mode in general.
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For logging. :v
speaking of <atomic>, time for launch
@kbok Last I checked you cannot use Apple software for nukes.
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10:27
<atomic> is irrelevant.
@R.MartinhoFernandes You can use gcc though
@BartekBanachewicz That's what Kim Jong-un said.
@BartekBanachewicz It's time for launch to me too .. lol
@kbok It was a very lousy joke.
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It's time for lunch.
10:28
The fuck did I write.
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's OK.
@Zoidberg what's on lunch ?
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Bratwurst mit Sauerkraut.
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(Sauerkraut, puke puke puke puke puke.)

awesome c# programmer at ID'S RFQ-hub

We’re looking for an exceptional software engineer with outstanding coding skills and the ambition to play a major role in our company; you would join our talented team of…

Posted on Careers 2.0 on March 29, 2013

Wow, job oneboxing now?
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10:30
Sauerkraut is the worst food ever after After Eight and followed by asparagus.
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@kbok Look at how awesome our company is. We don't use capitals!
We are trying to hire only bright people (so you won’t waste time arguing over stupid stuff).
Do you think, strong of my 6 months of experience with C#, that I should apply? It says "expert" but we're in France so
@kbok do you want to work for them?
Wtf is 'Do you do hallway usability testing?'
It's when you test hallways for suitability of chair racing
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10:32
Given the job posting (you still have to read between the lines) it looks decent enough
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> Professional-level English spoken and written.
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Epic fail.
@Mikhail Testing your product with random people you find on the hallway.
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@Mikhail you ask force random people in the hallway to test your UI.
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10:33
> Outstanding OO development & architecture skills, strong refactoring abilities.
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> strong refactoring abilities
"Our design sucks so much you'll spend most of your time refactoring this shit"
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:)
Also patterns
That's "architecture skills"
The job description focuses too much on the process, not enough on the product. They make heartless software to empower the rich to become richer.
10:34
Including me
What would count as heartful software?
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@CatPlusPlus I tried it this morning and I haven't yet received the quote. :(
@R.MartinhoFernandes Instagram.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes dating site. :v
Datings sites are made to empower the sad to become sadder, right?
10:37
@R.MartinhoFernandes The software I wrote is now imaging heart cells, but this is the exception. I think working on a product that changes the world...
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Okay, software used in pace makers. :v
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If they have software at all.
"Your software fucking sucks, it doesn't change the world, I don't want to work for you"
It is likely their financial products can change the world faster than yours.
10:38
lol
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Changing the world is easy.
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Dig a hole in the ground, whoop you have changed the world.
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Walk around outside, you probably changed the world a bit.
@CatPlusPlus kinda, given a choice wouldn't you work on something meaningful?
I don't care
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10:39
It's all 'bout the money.
Sometimes we can have both?
I don't think investment banks are something meaningless.
There's like .1% of the software industry actually working on something meaningful
healthcare software industry
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Nothing is meaningful since you'll eventually die anyway.
10:40
but their software is terrible
There's also like 1% of the software industry giving worthy compensations
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@TonyTheLion s/but their //
and makes you want to kill yourself after working on it for longer than a month
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@TonyTheLion good healthcare then.
@TonyTheLion jalf has been at it for a while, AFAIK. He doesn't complain much. Except Kerberos.
10:40
It's physical healthcare not mental healthcare
@R.MartinhoFernandes the place where I worked was horrendous
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Suicide is unhealthy man.
Was it a MUMPS system
The finance industry can let you make cold-hearted software with relatively recent technology and make piles of money. Seems good enough to me.
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10:41
Was it a virus scanner?
The less effort and more money the better
patient data management system
and stuff
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Oh a database with a front-end.
Let's be realist you're not going to cure cancer with your templates
10:42
Changing the world is a lot of effort and doesn't really pay that much
So you changed the world by... making it slightly warmer?
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@Mikhail And you printed hello world using them. Congratulations.
@Zoidberg actually I printed their ranks, and then tried to grep the whole lustre from the login node. I also tried to bitcoin mine, but got lazy...
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Bitcoin mining on 10k CPUs.
Hmm...
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Sounds reasonable.
10:44
My bitcoin mining was limited by my bash scripting.
You're supposed to mine them on 10 GPUs inside your room and then dry strawberries using the heat
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You don't write bitcoin mining software in bash.
Does the presence of std::ios_base::app and the implied seek there defeat buffering of the stream? AFAIK, seeks usually flush buffers.
@Zoidberg I couldn't launch the job correctly
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You're a noob.
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10:45
So much badness everywhere.
@Zoidberg Yes, but it was high throughput!
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And what are you going to do with those bitcoins?
@CatPlusPlus ooh
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Let me guess: buy weapons on Silk Road.
I wanted a gun?
10:47
:lol:
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@Mikhail So as I guessed, Silk Road. Now say hi to the FBI.
Buttcoins remain to be consistently hilarious
Butthurt Buttcoins
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Butthurt Dweller
inb4 Cicada
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10:49
lol
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I don't understand how Bitcoin works.
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If you copy your wallet to another file, don't you basically have twice the money?
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I no get it.
If you loose it you have nothing
10:51
@Zoidberg no
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(No, of course not.)
every bitcoin is unique
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How does it prevent me from spending it twice?
you won't be able to pay with the same (i.e. copied) coin twice
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It's decentralized.
10:52
Crypto magic
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Oh.
But really don't do Buttcoins, the entire community is just hilariously incompetent
payment requires some irreversible operation, involving the receiver's key prolly
Bitcoin was made by antiestamblishment folks, who didn't like the government messing with their money. Incidentally bitcoins are 100% trackable, making them the FBI/CIA's wetdream. ITS A HONEYPOT YOU IDIOTS.
10:53
@Mikhail Not anymore.
wait what
how are they trackable
Bitcoin is for the butthurt
It's a honeypot for idiots who invest in it
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I like honey.
Because the early miners own the most of the currency
10:54
Any transaction of the form A->B can be detected as such. If I give you 1 printed dollar nobody would know.
Also every exchange is inevitably hacked and their wallets stolen
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lol
The only tracking point is the exchange, because otherwise there is nothing linking you to a wallet
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Oh how fun.
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I went to school today.
10:55
also thank you IT for first disabling my IP reservation, then sending the message about how it's going to expire
yes, but you can get a 100% complete history.
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But apparently the teacher is gone.
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What the fuck.
And they have basically laundering services that disperse the money across the network or some shit and clean it
Don't worry people who buy on Silk Road know what they're doing
@Mikhail how can it be detected?
@Mikhail example?
10:56
@wilx That I don't know, but I am sure @Jerry does.
@Zoidberg Did the teacher know you were coming in?
(You're still an idiot if you think Buttcoins are a thing)
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Apparently, we have no class today.
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LOLOLOL
that says a lot about your school
when the best thing that can happen is no classes
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10:57
The timetable says we have class.
We should make real Buttcoins to compete with Bitcoins.
apparently noone fucking realized that if people doesn't want to attend really, it doesn't make sense
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And we didn't receive any email. So what the fuck.
All we need is ass-based cryptography.
@R.MartinhoFernandes The DNA of your shit.
10:58
@Zoidberg I shoudn't wind you up over that. I once drove 30km to work, only to find the car park empty. It was Sunday :(
@R.MartinhoFernandes you mean pulling keys out of ass?
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@MartinJames Yeah, but who the fuck goes to work on Sunday.
@BartekBanachewicz Some people are experts at pulling all kinds of stuff from there.
damn
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think I know who you mean.
10:59
Windows failure
(I was going to say "all kinds of shit", but then I thought better)
I only invested 77 minutes into my game of Starcraft
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@DeadMG Faildows
anyways, network is back on my ubuntu
@Zoidberg Linux couldn't even begin to run Starcraft 2, so it can't win.
not to mention that it fails far harder than Windows
10:59
@Zoidberg I had no idea it was Sunday - funny shifts plus too much beer generates stupidity.
Oh noes, not again.
it's ok I'll shut up now
after I reboot my computer

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