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6:00 PM
That didn't take long to reopen...
 
How do you view timelines?
 
http://stackoverflow.com/posts/15818281/revisions
http://stackoverflow.com/posts/15818281/timeline
Just edit the URL if there's no direct link.
There's an app to add them as links. But I've never bothered to learn how to use them.
 
Heh, he deleted the comments.
 
Given that I'm not a web developer.
 
thanks I actually was wondering that too
 
Xeo
6:03 PM
So, what's up with @FredO begging for ownership? :)
 
He is a power-hungry lunatic?
 
Xeo
Must be the German nature.
 
29 mins ago, by FredOverflow
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: document yourself about C++ and you will see [c++] [c++11] [no-helpdesk]
 
Xeo
Ah, changing topic. The usual.
 
anyways, Windows still bit me in the output, cause it's stdout is text mode by defualt
 
Ell
6:06 PM
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^Hexapoda logo!
 
@Xeo That's guys for you. They all want the same thing. Changing topics.
 
inb4 CSI hackz0rz.
 
.╚( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)╝...
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@DomagojPandža It's amazing how much CSI can extract from a single pixel or less.
 
Ell
@FredOverflow "Enhance image, zoom"
 
6:07 PM
oh fuck. LLVM Y U NO AUTOLINKING?
 
@Ell In that sense, every pixel in the Lounge is NSFW, because CSI could expand it to an image of a naked lady.
 
@Abyx autolinking? Is that something from the non-C++ world?
 
@rubenvb it's from VC++ world.
@rubenvb #pragma comment(lib, "xyz.lib") in headers
 
@FredOverflow Still well short of Blade Runner standards.
 
6:10 PM
@Abyx Well guess what, LLVM was written with many platforms/compilers in mind.
 
@rubenvb yeah. but it doesn't hurt to have'em. like in boost
 
It does. Cause then you are surprised on some other system or when using another compiler. Like right now. I can tell it's hurting you. You shouted out of agony.
 
lol
autolinking does sound nice though
 
@rubenvb there is #if.
 
yes but at what cost it comes
 
6:13 PM
@Rapptz the MSVC way is highly unportable.
It would be nice to have it, yes.
 
@rubenvb yeah but it doesn't mean it isn't nice to have
 
So, we got the afternoon off to do see Jurassic Park 3D.
(and yes, the film normally comes out tomorrow)
SEE Y'ALL
 
lol. Enjoy
 
@EtiennedeMartel OMG jealous! I love that movie.
 
hey when'd Fred become a room owner?!
 
6:15 PM
> set Variable: "file001" = (cosign)x&.744
> set/ backup / newPath() empty set4
> HALT /prcess..[nDepthx45%] dpth.
> attempting....

> target init bat/root/remote loc. = ac...
inb4
 
all you did was ask?!
 
@DomagojPandža inb4 Hollywood Hacking
 
@Rapptz Sure, why not? People know me, and I have been a room owner before.
 
@Rapptz yea but he was once a room owner.
 
Xeo
6:17 PM
@Rapptz Did you ever try to just ask? :P
 
that's why I had no reservations
 
Yeah I remember
 
He was dishonorably discharged, but he has returned.
 
well so what difference does it do
 
@Rapptz I'm probably at least sort of the guilty party -- I suggested it yesterday.
 
6:17 PM
Imo Rapptz should be an owner not that owner means much but a super nice reg should be enough
 
@Xeo No!
 
Xeo
@Fabrizio He can change topics!
 
@Fabrizio and bin things
 
Xeo
@Rapptz See, there's your problem.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Jurassic Park 3D will not come to German theaters before September :-(
 
6:17 PM
the power!
 
@JohanLarsson There are 12 owners here. Quite a lot :P
 
@Rapptz I don't know how to bin things. I just wanted to be able to change topics.
@ScottW Futurama episode
 
@Rapptz but not really a problem with many?
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow room -> move messages -> select, relocate, "bin"
2
 
6:18 PM
@rubenvb ..and the glory! Almost as awesome as being a plumber and getting to dig nasty stuff out of people's toilets!
 
@Xeo thanks
 
@JohanLarsson Obviously, we cannot allow a 13th room owner.
It's too sad.
 
@JerryCoffin hop mario, hop hop hop!
 
@ScottW You've never watched it?
 
@FredOverflow lol and you should ask the puppy for his bin script. So you can go subsecond
 
6:20 PM
The puppy has a bin script? What is this PHP room?
 
@Mysticial
 
@Mysticial maybe not but he is insanely fast
 
@Rapptz Yes -- early on, there were few enough owners that they all disappeared, so effectively the room had no owners t all. Shog (or somebody with a diamond, but I remember it as Shog) stepped in and made a number of owners. Been kept around a dozen ever since.
 
Ell
lots of people are learning XNA but it is deprecated! :(
 
What's the point of YouTube trailers to 3D remakes? They're not in 3D.
 
6:21 PM
In C# room almost all regs are owners
 
Well if you need a 13th, I nominate myself.
 
and I vote ^
 
13 is the devil!
 
that discussion has been had quite a few times
 
@ScottW this room's ownage is too damn high
 
6:22 PM
We don't take nominations
 
@FredOverflow YouTube back then had a "3D" option
 
1-13 = -12 = sum_n^\infty 1/n
 
@Rapptz "back then"? When? Why was it removed?
 
@ScottW (d)owners?
 
If it matters, I actually suggested a while back that Rapptz become the next room owner. If and when we open up a lot for him or if we decide to increase the limit of 12.
 
6:23 PM
YouTube still has 3D crap
 
@FredOverflow Well I haven't seen it in a long time.
 
Ell
jeff goldblum <3
 
@CatPlusPlus Well, we take them, but only as jokes.
 
It was the shitty stereoscopic 3D.
With red/blue IIRC
 
@JerryCoffin one does not simply become a room owner
 
6:25 PM
@Rapptz Given the number of people with real 3D displays on their computers, they probably didn't figure they had a lot of choice.
@TonyTheLion When/if he creates a room, he does! :-)
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah, I have a 3D TV but I've never used the 3D aspect. I just wanted an LED TV
 
3D sucks.
2
 
I've used the 3D feature of my TV once
 
6:26 PM
I read the novel Jurassic Park and imagined everything in 3D. It was awesome!
 
I really see no benefit to it. It's really confusing that people actually implement stereoscopic 3D in their engines, I guess it is trivial due to the existence of a depth buffer, but still.
 
Ell
How do they do the 3d remakes?
Do they manually position the frames?
 
@Ell They remake it in 3D?
 
lol
 
Ell
I have a 3d tv
I don't use the 3d much
a 4k (or 2k, I forget what the next thing is) would be much better
 
6:28 PM
I'm surprised you found a use for it at all.
 
well with all the good movies coming out...lol
 
@Ell I read an article about Titanic 3D once. Apparently, it's a mix of automatic and manual labor. Lot's of manual labor.
 
@Ell if they have the original matte doing a half-arsed job of it is fairly easy
 
@DomagojPandža AMEN BROTHER.
 
6:30 PM
3D missionary
 
And I can't believe they are wasting ridiculous amounts of money on shooting of 3D movies, mostly in the development of 3D shooting tech. Concentrating on image quality, the dynamic range and the sheer resolution is too mainstream, for the theaters and home displays.
 
Ell
The first time I watched titanic was when the 3d came out
 
@scott-w thanks
 
I have lost interest in TV and movies almost entirely, most is just dumb and annoying
 
@ScottW "You have been flagged."
 
6:33 PM
@ScottW I'm pretty sure reshooting in 3D would take a lot less time than converting from 2D to 3D.
 
@ScottW great
 
Have you seen Titanic 3D?
 
that is hard since the original wasn't that good
 
@DomagojPandža This reminds me. Do you has time to teach me Deferred Rendering? <3
 
@ThePhD I'll have a write up soon, are you in a hurry? :D
 
6:36 PM
@Fabrizio It gets pussy wet, what more do you want?
 
@DomagojPandža I'm always in a hurry. :D
 
user142019
It's shower time.
 
@FredOverflow no need for that movie
 
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Q: Optimizing if statements using loops in Java

BobI'm trying to optimize the large amount of if statements present in this code: public class MyClass{ ArrayList<Stack<String>> positions = new ArrayList<Stack<String>>(); Stack<String> pos1; Stack<String> pos2; Stack<String> pos3; Stack<String> pos4; Stack<String> pos5; ...

 
@ScottW reading about NK and the big red button. Looks like they have a guy who died ~96 and is still president, necrocracy.
 
6:39 PM
^^ oh god...
 
java...burn in hell
 
@Zoidberg how often do you shower? (since you brought the interesting topic up + trap)
 
@JohanLarsson Don't lobsters live in water?
 
@Mysticial jeez
 
Holy shit! Hindu code? — Noofiz 24 secs ago
^^ ahaha
 
6:42 PM
@Mysticial I think they do, I think that makes my stupid q somewhat relevant
 
@Mysticial lol got removed
 
@Rapptz Yeah, profanity in comments will get insta-deleted with a single comment flag.
 
Babies.
 
That's why you should always put zero-width-spaces between the letters.
 
6:45 PM
@CatPlusPlus What?
dafuq
 
bird
Nice.
 
I don't know why but this video is highly amusing
 
@FredOverflow I doubt it. Keep in mind that James Cameron was also the one who directed the 3D movie that turned it from a cheap gimmick for monster movies into at least a borderline mainstream idea. I think he has a pretty fair idea of how much work is involved each way.
 
6:47 PM
@ScottW No, this is the best video on YT:
 
question, boost::begin/end should do adl right?
 
Yes.
 
ADL is argument dependent lookup, think about it
 
ok, correct version. http://coliru.stacked-crooked.com/view?id=fc1a20dcec7199ed745e0031bd5f3072-50d9cfc8a1d350e7409e81e87c2653ba
I should refrain from rewriting examples on coliru.
 
6:53 PM
@CatPlusPlus go!
@ScottW what was about VS2012 again?
 
Oh sorry, boost:begin performs ADL on range_begin.
 
@bamboon When you specify boost::begin, it can only match a begin in the boost namespace. Try just using begin(f);
 
Or you know, you could read the docs. Like I did.
 
@JerryCoffin well, it could do some other stuff under the hood, couldn't it?
 
Ell
6:57 PM
youtube keeps 502'ing on me
 
@ScottW i forgot to add that vs build is broken now :P
 
@LucDanton ah ok thanks, I should of course have done that. I was just confused because I somehow remember someone saying that boost::begin does adl on begin.
 
I mean, C++-not-quite-11
Uh, changing it so it compiles should be trivial
it's mostly =delete
and some stuff of that magnitude
 
Wonder what boost::swap performs ADL on then.
 
@Zoidberg you here? Erlang q in C# if you are interested ;D
 
7:00 PM
@bamboon I s'pose it could, but you seem to be asking for more than it really does.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You should either tell VS to fuck off or macro that difference out.
 
private:
    Texture (Texture const&)/* = delete*/;
    Texture& operator= (Texture const&)/* = delete*/;
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's how I do it now ^
I also keep forgetting I can't use using
 
#ifdef WHATEVER_MACRO_IDENTIFIES_MSVC
#define MY_CXX11_DELETE
#else
#define MY_CXX11_DELETE = delete
#endif
hehe
Obviously use the right macro to decide, and replace the MY_ prefix with your namespace.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that is fucked up even worse
@Ell yes
 
7:05 PM
@JerryCoffin well, I thought it would just do using std::begin and then call begin unqualified (C++11).
 
Anyway @ScottW these are trivial changes, you will be able to do it yourself no prob
 
Ell
anyway I'm off. Later all
 
@bamboon You thought the compiler would do that automatically, or you thought that the code in Boost would do that?
 
@JerryCoffin boost. I was just thinking that that was the difference between std::begin and boost::begin, but obviously I somehow had that one wrong.
 
@bamboon I'm not sure there really is much of a difference between the two at this point (except that Boost is available on compilers that simply don't have std::begin at all, of course).
 
7:19 PM
Every time you assume in programming a kitten dies. — Barış Uşaklı 33 secs ago
 
user142019
@JohanLarsson every day.
 
-8
Q: Opinion: Comments stink

ltwallyI am new to stackoverflow, and have quickly found that the comment box (that is, commenting on someone's answer/suggestion) is really, really, really bad. Reasons why: Hitting Enter while typing results in the "accept comment" button being hit. What? Am I supposed to type HTML codes for CR...

 
@Zoidberg In Finland they will probably kill you if you tell them that, try not to be specific and mention weeks and no after shave.
 
user142019
@JohanLarsson every week.
 
@JerryCoffin yeah, that is what I thought, after my tests, too and then checked back here because I had that different in mind.
 
user142019
7:23 PM
And I don't shave, so I use no after shave.
 
@Zoidberg Why would a cartoon lobster shave? At least to me, the idea makes no sense.
 
I love you guys.
 
posted on April 04, 2013 by Ankit Asthana

I am Ankit Asthana and I am the program manager for the backend C++ compiler. For today's topic I want to blog about a really cool runtime compiler optimization called Profile Guided Optimization (PGO) (we on the team call it POGO or PGO for short). PGO was initiated by the Visual C and Microsoft Research groups in the late 90's and primarily focused on Itanium architecture. PGO was eventually

 
user142019
Hurray.
 
user142019
Another repcap.
 
7:34 PM
Yay repcap
I'm a little sad.
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Q: How come this compiles? : int x = x = 1;

MarcinIn method or class scope, the lines below compile (with warning): int x = x = 1; In class scope, where variables get their default values, the following gives 'undefined reference' error: int x = x + 1; Isn't it the first x = x = 1 should end up with same 'undefined reference' error or ther...

 
@nneonneo Yeah, if this was 2011 and earlier, it'd have about 100 votes now.
 
user142019
 
user142019
This is very nice.
 
user142019
Last week. ^^
 
I think people are starting to hate DRM more than spam. — Mysticial 4 mins ago
 
7:37 PM
@Mysticial My beef with this question is that most of the answers are wrong
The Java scoping and initializer rules are actually quite complex
 
And there's too many answers as well...
 
I claim (of course) that my answer is better, but nobody will ever see it. The first answer there (with almost 50 upvotes) is basically completely wrong
but "right enough" that people think it's the whole story
grumble grumble
 
Xeo
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Q: C++ ampersand '&' at the end of member function declaration

Guillaume PapinI'm sorry I couldn't come with a better title. What the last ampersand & means in the following code snippet: A & A::operator=(A rhs) & { swap(*this, rhs); return *this; } Depending on the answer I would like to know if: it makes sense only for operator= or can also be applied to an...

 
user142019
If you have a 25-vote answer, and it gets deleted, do you lose the badge?
 
Xeo
Why the heck did people vote to reopen?!
 
user142019
7:40 PM
Because they disagree with you.
 
@Zoidberg No -- once you get the badge, you get to keep it, even when the question is deleted.
 
user142019
Nice.
 
Xeo
@Zoidberg I didn't even vote-to-close in the first place.
 
Stack Overflow
I think you dont't have to feel sorry, as this duplicate is not obvious at all. Others looking for the meaning of "'&' at the end of member function declaration" will not easily find the linked question. — Oberon 3 mins ago
That's why the duplicate is linked in the closed question when it's closed jesus
 
@Nil
 
7:42 PM
@CatPlusPlus Exactly -- this is a "good" duplicate that definitely shouldn't be deleted, but should remain closed as a dupe.
@Xeo Good -- now you can.
 
@Nil Abizern removed my right in NSChat ages ago because of a disagreement, do you think you can let me in there please? It's the only good iOS chat room.
 
This is not "nil's personal pager" room, go away
 
user142019
f.lux is great.
 
user142019
When I turn it off, my head starts to hurt.
 
user142019
Such bright and cold colors. :<
 
7:47 PM
It breaks in funny ways when other apps try to adjust gamma ramps too
 
Ironically, f.lux has made it easier for me to work even later in the night
 
user142019
I don't use any apps that try to adjust gamma ramps too.
 
Games do that often.
 
Zoidberg how can you enjoy the orange colour hough?
 
I had a huge problem with ToME doing this
I replaced its SDL.dll with one that disables the adjustment :v:
 
Xeo
7:49 PM
user image
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And thus, the Lounge descended.
 
votes to reopen
 
user142019
@Xeo Nice. :)
 
so that question about ampersand... ampersand is a tag for RVR, like const is a tag for const object ?
 
user142019
Ohhh this is handy for Hexapoda.
 
Xeo
@NoSenseEtAl no
Read my answer
 
7:57 PM
Question.
I have a class that contains indices into a std::vector of objects.
Would it be wise to keep a std::vector<object>* on the class, so that it can provide operations for that std::vector<object> without having it explicitly passed in for every function that needs to use it?
 
@Xeo @ I still dont get the ampersand after function, I get it when it is in the arg list
 
Or, should I just pass in a std::vector<object>& and just let it be everytime?
 

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