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user1357851
1:00 PM
you assumed the cat in the box was on its first life
 
and the icing on the cake is that it's someone else's code I'm deleting :)
 
@jalf Won't that someone be pissed? Or did he get fired because of the code you're deleting? :)
 
@jalf Taking away all their hard work!
@DomagojPandža Not yet.
 
@DomagojPandža Well, first, the someone doesn't work here. it's an open source project we're using (and contributing to). And second, the code works (and works correctly) now that we've deleted that chunk of code. It didn't work before. So I think he'll approve ;)
 
But, but! There are no lulz in good deeds. :(
 
1:04 PM
@jalf Maybe he works for a rival company now and won't approve.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :)
 
We can only hope.
 
It seems like noob SO users are expert at only providing half the data or no relevant data at all to their question. With data I mean mostly code.
 
Just NARQ them!
 
How hard is it to give correct relevant code to your question, I mean seriously?!
 
1:07 PM
Effort? It's hard for debrained people. We must not laugh, as the Cat likes to say. And still laugh, because he's a hypocrite. <3
 
I'd ask how stuff's going, but I'll just defer to point one of the FAQ.
 
user142019
I wonder why mmap doesn't return NULL on failure.
 
user142019
It returns (void *) -1.
 
user142019
1:12 PM
At least, in Linux.
 
is there such a thing as iofstream?
which can read and write to/from file
 
That look on my girlfriend's face in front of my laptop would give me a heart attack.
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion std::fstream :v
 
I CAN EXPLAIN... No, wait... I can't.
 
user142019
1:15 PM
@DomagojPandža s/heart attack/boner/
 
Shouldn't a templated function deduce its types from the parameters (if they're coherent with themselves)? — Paul 1 min ago
good question
I guess maybe it should
 
@Zoidberg To allow mmaping the zero address?
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes isn't that address reserved?
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion fixed the unreadable giant line of death.
 
user142019
1:17 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes By the kernel. :v
 
Which kernel?
 
@Zoidberg thanks
 
user142019
And what if I want to map (void *) -1?
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes The Linux kernel.
 
user142019
Oh wait.
 
user142019
1:18 PM
Paging. :v
 
mmap is defined by POSIX not Linux.
 
Ahahahah, I love you, Zoidberg. You didn't just say that. :D
 
user142019
Oh right.
 
Is having an object at the adress 0 allowed by the standard?
 
user142019
@DomagojPandža say what?
 
user142019
1:19 PM
@kbok the standard doesn't care about a thing such as "address 0".
 
@Zoidberg The reservation of address 0. :D
 
Yeah, well, I don't make any sense
 
@Zoidberg It maps (void *) -1 and returns something like (void*)-0x1000. (void *) -1 is not the start of a page.
 
user142019
OIC.
 
3 mins ago, by Domagoj Pandža
Ahahahah, I love you, Zoidberg. You didn't just say that. :D
1 min ago, by Scott W
kbok I <3 u
Is it valentine's day already
 
1:23 PM
spread ALL THE LOVE
 
Nah, I just love our youngster lobster. I remember him when he was still just a vacuum cleaner. He's grown so much since!
 
juio's stance is probably connected to a Bad Meme that used to float around. there was a series of workstations where the machine stack was optimized for single-threaded execution, by having the top part of the stack accessible as a series of processor registers. to the naive this looked as if there was no stack. — Cheers and hth. - Alf 4 hours ago
I think juio's stance is connected to the fact that he's a moron
 
James Kanze is spot on.
 
@DomagojPandža lol = love of lobster
 
1:26 PM
The execution of any non-trivial C++ program has an observable stack.
 
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Q: Polymorphism in c++

adcdefgAFAIK: C++ provides three different types of polymorphism. Virtual functions Function name overloading Operator overloading In addition to the above three types of polymorphism, there exist other kinds of polymorphism: run-time compile-time ad-hoc polymorphism parametric polymorphism I k...

woah
 
Ell
what is the quickest (code size) way to read a text file into a std::string?
 
I didn't realize this question existed
 
@TonyTheLion document yourself about C++ and you will see — juio 4 hours ago
DOCUMENT YOURSELF, TONY. DO IT NOW.
 
std::stringstream ss;
ss << std::ifstream(file_name).rdbuf();
return ss.str();
It can be made a one liner if you are into ugly casts.
 
Ell
1:29 PM
Thank ye
I'm definately into ugly casts
 
user1357851
why are there so many cat stuff on the internet
 
I knew about a two-liner involving iterators?
 
return static_cast<std::stringstream&>(std::stringstream() << std::ifstream(file_name).rdbuf()).str();
@Ell There ye go.
 
fugly
 
std::ifstream t("file.txt");
std::string str((std::istreambuf_iterator<char>(t)),
                 std::istreambuf_iterator<char>());
 
user1357851
1:31 PM
Doggie!
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion Fugly Betty
 
@kbok Sure. NULL (or literal 0 or nullptr) is an invalid pointer value, but address 0 is just an address like any other. The standard doesn't say anything special about that
 
I live at 0, Sesame Street
 
G'day, @JerryCoffin. If it's not a scheduled autoenter. ^^
 
@DomagojPandža Nope, this is me.
 
1:32 PM
hi you
 
Hello.
 
user1357851
Jerry has decoys! Smoooth :p
 
Get lost, Telkitty.
 
What's up with the regulars from the other side of the pond?
 
Disclaimer: the istreambuf_iterator version is sloooooowwwwweeeerrrr.
 
1:33 PM
@DomagojPandža He/She is already lost
 
@TonyTheLion They're in shelters expecting NK to nuke them! :D
 
hope not
 
> the compiler allocates nothing, by the way C++ is stack-less, C++ is a language that doesn't need or require a stack. A stack is usually part of the actual implementation of a given C++ library and since any given C++ program needs a C++ library, you should refer to the C++ library that you are using.
 
@ScottW for chatting while you should be working?
 
This guy demonstrates a very stronk lack of understanding.
 
1:34 PM
@DomagojPandža C++ has no variables
 
ahahaha
 
user1357851
@ScottW why is that "I'm gonna get nuked" & "I'm gonna get naked" so close
 
user142019
C++ has no headers.
 
user142019
If only that were true.
 
C++ has no minus
 
Xeo
1:35 PM
The language C++ has no headers. :)
 
C++ ain't got no pancake mix.
 
Xeo
At least as far as I'm aware.
 
I live close enough to NORAD headquarters, I used to be able to count on the fact that WWIII would only last a few milliseconds for me. I have, however, decidedly less confidence in NK as an adversary.
 
user1357851
Ok, let's not get there :p
 
user1357851
@JerryCoffin are you in Seattle or San Fran
 
1:37 PM
@Telkitty Don't you know how to read?
 
@Telkitty NORAD HQ is under/inside the base of Cheyenne Mountain, just outside Colorado Springs.
 
NORAD HQ.
 
user1357851
Too lazy :'(
 
Also, NORAD HQ as a target seems more like making a statement than a valid military objective. @JerryCoffin, isn't there a naturally shielded second command center?
 
I'm just finished with breakfast.
 
1:40 PM
@JerryCoffin Oh, that's where they keep Stargate Command.
 
This is so goddamn awesome.
 
user142019
What is it?
 
@DomagojPandža Back when there was a Strategic Air Command, they use to maintain an airborne command post, but SAC is gone, and I'd guess the airborne command post with it.
 
user1357851
I have another profound question: all the food cooked during a nuclear explosion, will they become edible in 10 years? ... will you get cancer from eating them?
 
@DomagojPandža s/awesome/expensive/ FTFY.
 
1:42 PM
@JerryCoffin An airborne command post? Like, a flying fortress?
 
@kbok Like a 747 with lots of radios.
 
a blast door
 
@kbok Well, that's a prudent choice. A high-value target needs to move.
 
@JerryCoffin But did it stay always in the air?
 
@JerryCoffin lol, doesn't sound as fancy.
 
1:43 PM
@kbok I would guess it would lift off on DEFCON 1 or imminent nuclear strike?
 
user1357851
I was looking for NORAD HQ in images, and I found this:
 
user1357851
 
NORAD Tracks Santa is an annual Christmas-themed entertainment program, which has existed since 1955, produced under the auspices of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD). Every year on Christmas Eve, "NORAD Tracks Santa" purports to track Santa Claus as he leaves the North Pole and delivers presents to children around the world. The program is in the tradition of the September 1897 editorial "Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus" in the New York Sun. History and overview The program began on December 24, 1955 when a Sears department store placed an advertisement in a...
 
user1357851
Someone was saying, you can say "one lost battle to cancer", but nobody says "one lost life to a 10 ton truck"
 
user1357851
wait, santa needs to keep up with the modern life, and drive a hercules
 
1:47 PM
You can also say "ten seconds lost to reading crap"
@ScottW Yeah it took me a while to try working out what was relevant
 
@JerryCoffin You could escape through the stargate
 
TIL @JerryCoffin lives near the stargate and never used it.
 
user1357851
He was probably going to on the 21st of December last year :p
 
Ell
Who wants to help me with opengl today? :D ;)
 
yo momma
TIL young swans are called swanlings or cygnets
 
1:51 PM
@Telkitty What's so profound about that? Old bombs, like the gun-type Little Boy dropped over Hiroshima were based on uranium-235 which were not susceptible to early partial fission (premature ejaculation in terms of nuclear devices) of plutonium-based devices. U-235 fission's most notable by-product is Caesium-137, with 30.2 years of half life. But if food is irradiated while it is being cooked, you have no worries of eating it to get cancer. You, the cook, were killed or terminally irradiated.
 
user1357851
I was thinking more along the line of the wildlifes in the forest around the location where the radioaction explosion took place
 
On the other hand I'm pretty sure that you can get cancer by writing Objective-C for 10 years.
 
10 minutes
 
user1357851
Is that what killed Steve Jobs?
 
@DomagojPandža IOW you don't have time to get cancer.
@TonyTheLion Aren't cygnets young cygnus?
Oh wait, that's latin for "swan".
 
1:55 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Swans are of genus Cygnus
 
Nevermind.
 
user1357851
speak of, which Steve Jobs worked with Bill Gates, and he got cancer. Paul Allan was Microsoft cofounder and he got cancer. Maybe Bill Gates is radioactive!
 
Today's nuclear devices are quite a bit cleaner, although I wouldn't recommend detonating them for fun. They usually derive their power from two stages, you initiate fission just enough to provide enough pressure to allow for a second-stage fusion reaction. The range is a lot smaller in standard warheads, but today's ICBMs can deliver a shitload of them anywhere on the planet.
 
> Warning: the following box contains an image that could be considered shocking.
 
1:58 PM
Still, no food to be had after a drop.
 
I'm not clicking it
 
lol what kind of question is this...
 
No you to be had, too.
I'm just glad stupid Russians laid off from building more TSAR-like bombs. Reminded me of swinging your dick around just to show how big it is.
 
user142019
Not clicking what?
 
user142019
I see no links.
 
2:00 PM
A question on homework is "what one or two word titles would you give to the stages of this project's software development?"
Second part they find out double-precision numbers are far too slow... "Double Trouble!"
 
user1357851
If your looks can kill, your eyes must be radioactive
 
user142019
Oh Telkitty, nvm.
 
@Zoidberg it was suggested
@Zoidberg don't think so. Anyways, I might not see it either
 
user142019
Oh.
 
user142019
2:01 PM
@Crowz "bad" and "shitty"
 
@Zoidberg I'm making the corniest titles possible
 
Military: Sure, we'll fund your project to develop ways of generating antimatter in order to improve life for everyone.
Scientists: Oh, okay.

... Some time after...

ANTIMATTER WARHEADS, MOTHERFUCKERS!
 
user1357851
Hercule plane looks so fat, it looks as if it has eaten two smaller planes ...
 
user1357851
 
2:03 PM
@DomagojPandža That sounds like a very very silly idea. What would be the delivery method? Ultra-slow-incredibly-fragile-rockets?
 
Carrying antimatter around in war is a recipe for losing.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, my stance has always been that a contaiment field/method for antimatter will require more research than generating antimatter itself.
 
har har har
 
{| |} The Hughes H-4 Hercules (also known as the "Spruce Goose"; registration NX37602) is a prototype heavy transport aircraft designed and built by the Hughes Aircraft company. The aircraft made its first and only flight on November 2, 1947, and the project never advanced beyond the single example produced. Built from wood because of wartime restrictions on the use of aluminum and concerns about weight, its critics nicknamed it the "Spruce Goose", despite its being made almost entirely of birch rather than spruce. The Hercules is the largest flying boat ever built and has the largest w...
 
2:05 PM
I love how CNN ironically ends their article with Opinion: Kim Jung Un is not Crazy. WTF? Seriously?
 
@ScottW Loved the build up.
 
@ScottW oh, so then you'll be finished with a project in like, 20 minutes
 
@ScottW ahahahahah
 
@TonyTheLion Have you seen the article where Kim Jung Un says "I'm for gay marriage. I'm not that immortal"
 
Do we really have to wait until NK does something stupid to act?
 
2:06 PM
Yeah they should hit them with their democratic hammer.
 
Or are we going to discuss the morality of cleansing violence with violence?
 
It works so well
 
@DomagojPandža If you can get cheap arbitrary-destination teleportation it becomes weaponisable. Otherwise it doesn't seem very advantageous over other weaponry.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Teleporting nuclear weapons sounds dangerous
 
Teleportation is quite unlikely unless the Heisenberg uncertainty principle can be mediated.
 
2:08 PM
@kbok We are talking anti-matter. We already have working delivery mechanisms for nuclear weaponry.
 
@Crowz lol
 
@kbok The duty rotated between a number of different planes, one of which was always in the air (with at least on General on board). If memory serves, they normally carried something like two or three air crews and used in-air refueling so one plane would normally stay airborne for ~72 hours.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Of all delivery mechanisms, teleportations is the most efficient.
 
Basically, it's the problem of capturing state. And the uncertainty principle is a terribad bitch.
 
@DomagojPandža Actually, it doesn't really have to be cheap, because the payout is great.
 
user142019
2:09 PM
Anti-matter weapons?
 
@kbok How do you know?
 
Ell
I thought we've already teleported stuff?
 
user142019
Sounds harmful.
 
@JerryCoffin whoa, awesome
 
Ell
Under the danube river
 
2:10 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes How could you conceive something even more efficient?
 
@JerryCoffin One was always in the air? Was that necessary or just a show of force?
 
> Psychiatrists think they know the answer: Compulsive or pathological gambling, they say, is similar to a drug addiction—just without a drug.
you don't say?
 
@kbok Why are you assuming it is efficient at all? Why are you assuming it doesn't have astronomical energy costs?
 
@DomagojPandža You mean, you want ("the West") to be first doing something stupid? And legitimize their potential stupidity?
 
user142019
@Ell Quantum teleportation is unrelated to the common term teleportation; it does not transport the system itself, and does not concern rearranging particles to copy the form of an object.
 
Ell
2:11 PM
Right, it's just entangling two atoms then changing the spin of one of them? Or something idk xD
 
@kbok Efficient in what way? Teleportation, even if we could bypass the uncertainty principle in measuring momentum/position at the same time with arbitrary precision is far from efficient - E=mc^2
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "efficient" does not imply "cost-efficient".
 
@kbok Then "what-efficient"?
 
time-efficient, risk-efficient comes into mind
 
Why are you assuming it doesn't have large time costs?
 
Ell
2:12 PM
A much more pressing issue is where on earth is my vertex shader getting the color value from :'( [arcsynthesis.org/gltut/Basics/Tut02%20Vertex%20Attributes.html]
 
@TonyTheLion It took me a while to assess whether the italicization marked the bounds of the quote... :)
 
Also, if we ignored all the technical issues of actually making the principle work, imagine interrupting the teleportation by destroying one teleportation pad.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm assuming the teleportation is instantaneous, indeed
 
@sehe oh sorry if that wasn't obvious
 
Rematerializing in a half-assed state would be interesting to see.
Lose the contaiment field and you won't see anything.
 
2:14 PM
@TonyTheLion (well it's mostly a compulsive need to interpret things backwards and/or out-of-context)
 
user142019
 
@DomagojPandža Fixed-destinations don't really lend themselves to weaponising.
 
@Zoidberg better credit the source of that picture
people will think you made it. so ugly
 
Ell
@Zoidberg Dope! I'm an idiot. I read it before, but as soon as you post it I understand now.
I think Zoidberg is magical
 
user142019
@sehe I did, through the grey reply-arrow!
 
2:15 PM
and he didn't even say anything
 
user142019
@Ell Could you put that "I'm an idiot" in a separate message so we can star it?
 
@Zoidberg You know, that's technically incorrect. I do agree, that the implication was strong enough and I should feel bad for failing to click a link on the interwebs :)
 
Ell
I'm an idiot
 
@DomagojPandža I'm pretty sure they thought it was necessary. Whether it really was or not is harder to say.
 
user142019
@sehe you know…
 
user142019
2:16 PM
I knew somebody was going to bitch about it. :v
 
@Ell Spell fail! s/idiot/elliot/
 
user142019
lol
 
@Zoidberg Because you asked for it? Wow, what precognition!
 
@Zoidberg in this lounge, bitching is the one thing you are guaranteed to have to deal with.
 
user142019
Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to write Hadoop in Java.
 
user142019
2:17 PM
Oh wait… Apache. Nevermind.
 
@Ell You register your shader bytecode with the list of inputs and where it is getting them. Also, interleave your attributes, cache misses on GPUs are terribad for your health.
 
Ell
I don't know how to interleave my attributes to be honest :/
 
@Zoidberg who said anyone thought so? they just did. probably because they needed to deliver stuff
 
user142019
@sehe Oh, that's right.
 
user142019
Java programmers don't think.
 
2:19 PM
@DomagojPandža "Interleave your attributes" means "arrays of structures" or "structures of arrays"? I am guessing the former, but I am not sure.
 
user142019
On-purpose misinterpretation for the win!
 
user142019
@ScottW By using unsafeInterleaveIO.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Array of structures, because you have one structure with all the information for a single vertex, hence cache win. SoA would be first the positions, then the colors. And then it would have to jump around. :D
 
user142019
You'll also immediately sell your soul to Satan if you use that function.
 
And a cache miss on the GPU hurts, ~800 cycles sometimes.
 
2:21 PM
@Telkitty One of the most butt-ugly planes ever. They used to have EC-130s, which did surveillance, using a half-mile (or so) long antenna they'd tow around out the back (and reel in before landing). In the middle of a base surrounded with B-52's and Air-Launched Cruise Missiles, an EC-135 would have at least one guard outside it at all times...
 
@Zoidberg :s/\vJava\s+(.)(.*)\./\U\1\E\2 nearly enough./
 
@Zoidberg unsafeInterleaveIO is probably the less evil of that family (note how it doesn't even break the type system).
 
user142019
unsafeInterleaveST >:3
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was gonna suggest boxershorts instead, removing most of the dilemma
 
greater than 3?
 
user142019
2:23 PM
> unsafeInterleaveIO allows IO [computations] to be deferred lazily. When passed a value of type IO a, the [I/O] will only be performed when the value of the a is demanded. This is used to implement lazy file reading, see hGetContents.
 
user142019
Awesome, I finally start to see how this is implemented.
 
How it really gets there, your color, that is? That's a long story. D3D does some compilation in the user and kernel mode drivers before actually arriving on the GPU(s), while OGL implementations compile them on the GPU directly, with access to your command buffer storing how system memory data like uniforms and attributes relate to the shader code. That's why you have to compile shaders at runtime with OGL.
 
blergh
 
Ell
so to interleave my attributes I should have: vertex, colour, vertex, colour, vertex, colour instead of vertex, vertex, vertex, colour, colour, colour?
 
arsed, I cannot be
 
2:26 PM
@DomagojPandža Isn't there binary shader support now?
 
I don't think shaders are compiled on the GPU
 
user142019
I need to read about lazy I/O.
 
OGL just wanted to avoid specifying binary shader protocol
 
D3D shaders are not, they are processed in the user mode drivers and further in kernel mode drivers.
 
(And then someone did anyway so)
 
user1357851
2:27 PM
@JerryCoffin obviously Hercules was chosen for its beauty :p
 
user142019
My keyboard is so nasty.
 
@CatPlusPlus I was starting to type roughly the same (but, as usual for me, a lot more slowly and using more words...)
 
Shaders are compiled on the CPU, then sent to the GPU, amirite?
 
@CatPlusPlus I wasn't really that sharp in specifying, the full story is that the shader compilation is done in something just prior to attacking the GPU, OpenGL has a really subtle API/user mode driver difference, it's all done in the low level kernel driver with final instruction prep on the GPU.
That's OpenGL, mind you. Direct3D compiles the first portion of it in the user mode driver and then proceeds to optimize the bytecode as it goes down the pipeline.
 
@ShotgunNinja Almost certainly -- compilation is a task to which the GPU is poorly suited.
 
user1357851
2:31 PM
Gosh Airbus 380 can have up to 853 people in it, maybe they can convert it for war use
 
@DomagojPandža optimizing bytecode down the pipeline....
 
It has multiple forms, the bytecode. In the D3D case.
 
user1357851
you only need 12 Airbus 380 to transfer 10,000 troops
 
@DomagojPandža For anything that specific, the real answer is: "No, not really." As usual, OpenGL specifies an interface, and leaves such details to the implementation. I'd be at least mildly surprised if there aren't at least a few differences between the ways nVidia, Intel and AMD do things right now, and much more variation is almost certainly possible.
 
user1357851
I was on an Airbus 380 before though, it was horrible (economy class) seat so tiny
 
2:33 PM
I doubt any compilation effort at all is performed by the GPU.
 
There's some effort to actually mapping the final bytecode to the actual hardware instructions, but mostly it is 1:1 triviality.
 
Hey, @Cat you use NERDTree, right? How do you avoid getting quickfix stuff dumped in the NERDTree window?
 
I've never seen that happen
Then again I don't keep NERDTree open or even use it all that often
I either open files from Total Commander or lately through FuzzyFinder
 
Now I want to remind myself how many IRs does the D3D shader code go through before getting on the GPU.
 
Eww, and if after that I toggle the NERDTree window... It opens a new one.
 
2:38 PM
What's NERDTree
 
Oh wait. That was just the "jump to last error" thingy.
 
A tree with a nerd on it?
 
@kbok vim plugin.
 
okay
vim
 
I guess shouldn't :make if the focus is on that window... :/
 
2:41 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes No wonder it's stupid!
 
@Telkitty The US Army usually uses C-130s (technically, the C-130J variant, but same specs) for troop transport, and that has a capacity of 92 passengers.
 
@JerryCoffin Was a PICNIC/PEBKAC, actually :S
 
user1357851
@EtiennedeMartel but that's less than 15% of the passenger capacity of Airbus 380, isn't it?
 
Yes. But you wouldn't send a civilian aircraft in a combat zone.
 
I like how vendor-specific drivers on the OpenGL side are given freeroam to interpret the OGL (and GLSL) spec in terms of their IRs and how they map to the actual hardware instructions.
On three different computers, you could have three totally distinct IRs.
Three totally new ways to fail in new and fascinating ways!
I like vendor-specific extensions just as much as the next guy, but they need to start sailing under the same flag.
 
2:46 PM
Yeah internal IR is very important
 
It is. Your shader might look fine on one computer and go batshit crazy on another.
 
user142019
@brbcoding Yes, and it's terrible. — Zoidberg 15 secs ago
 
Consistency is important. It reduces the number of people who can put the finger on you when they buy your game.
 
user142019
Downvote into oblivion.
 
Hmm, underlined fs in Consolas render differently than regular fs. Weird.
 
2:48 PM
It's a great technology when you have to care about internals
 
It must be a pain in the ass when you get bug reports of things you can't reproduce for the life of you. I'd probably just defer them to the graphics card vendor.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes -- but a well designed UI would prevent those.
 
@Ell What? The vertex should contain color as one of its properties, and perhaps sets of texture coordinates, along with a position and normal.
 
Meh, I need to stop being lazy and map myself some shortcut keys instead of messing up when typing make all the time.
@DomagojPandža I think he meant s/vertex/position/g
 
Well, fuck me running.
TIL GNU less will happily open PDF files, and display them as proper plain text. Woot!
 
2:52 PM
In that case, carry on.
 
@sehe nice
 
Are you serious.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes ahh yes I did sorry
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yup. I found out by accident after I uncompressed n3595.pdf using git.ghostscript.com/?p=ghostpdl.git;a=blob;f=gs/toolbin/…
 
2:53 PM
Wow, not terrible at all.
 
Ell
position, position, colour, colour vs position, colour, position, colour
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Depends on the source actually. Try n3595.pdf, it's perfect for my purposes
 
I drank way too much Pepsi.
 
Ell
I have a driving lesson very soon :(
they suck so bad.
 
oh fun
I have a driving test 14 May
 
2:57 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Anyways, the reason I did was, because I was trying to establish whether Adobe is fucking up, or the document is broken. The quote making me curious was from meetingcpp.com/index.php/br/items/…:
> "ADL rules as de ned today are not always intuitive"
 
Ell
ahh good luck for then
 
I suspect fancy digraphs(?) for fi (that's not the name, right). But Evince just shows it correctly, Adobe shows it correctly too, but fails when copy/pasting it.
 
@sehe Ligatures?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That :)
I can't help but become curious when I see a mishap like that. I have a feeling you might share the feeling
(too much feeling there)
 

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