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19:02
I don't even know what he's still arguing about.
The OP himself said thx.
And used bananas of his own.
What's with the stick up this guy's butt?
"Yes.🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌" was clearly a constructive comment: the asker responded with "thx.🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌". Bananas offered, bananas accepted. — nneonneo 14 secs ago
hahaha
@Mysticial :masterstroke:
auto sets = {
        {{0}},
        {{0, 0}}
};  //error: unable to deduce 'std::initializer_list<auto>' from '{{{0}}, {{0, 0}}}'
why not? What else would it deduce as? :(
Btw, I'm not voting for animuson. I don't agree with his stance on bananas.
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I am. <3
19:06
DOWNVOTES
Oh, you can downvote.
Oh wait, animuson
Not nneonneo
Nevermind.
Yeah it's still primary
STV voting starts tomorrow
@CatPlusPlus He gets colored bananas??? I'm so jealous
user142019
Oh TIL Netherlands was first country to legalise gay marriage.
user142019
19:07
Cool.
There's nothing to be jealous about
It's crappy Apple extension so you need the worst OS ever
oh
But if they were dancing
user142019
@CatPlusPlus after Windows.
Speaking of elections, @Flexo has a decent chance right now, if the votes in the primaries are any indication.
@Collin Apple is proposing the extension for standardisation.
@Collin Well... there is also a proposal for animated glyphs in the works :)
user142019
19:10
omg fucking awesome
Animated glyphs would be... really strange.
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's useful when you don't know where to put Umlauts; just let them blink. :)
@Zoidberg better than 8, worse than 7.
user142019
That makes no sense, since 8 is better than 7.
Maybe I need a touchscreen, but I don't think I "get" Windows 8
user142019
19:11
Don't use touchscreen for desktop OS.
@Zoidberg I'm starting to think you actually might be just playing devil's advocate.
user142019
s/playing //
user142019
f.lux is fucking awesome. Best tool ever.
@Zoidberg no. It's very good on, say, iPad. But on my screens I a) prefer hardware calibration b) I want daylight temperature to keep me away
@EtiennedeMartel We clearly need to at least give him the benefit of the doubt, and assume so (since the alternative is that he's an idiot).
user142019
19:13
@BartekBanachewicz I use it in OS X and Linux and it works great.
user142019
I don't like cold colours when it's dark.
@Zoidberg they keep you awake
@ScottW Automatic color temperature changer
user142019
I'd prefer candles over light bulbs but dangerous.
The point is
when your eyes get warm colors, you become sleepy
user142019
Yes.
user142019
19:15
I want to sleep in the evening.
user142019
So that's the entire point.
I change my temperature about half an hour before wanting to go to sleep
but when I am going to code to 3AM, no way
like today
@JerryCoffin Well, he's still young.
user142019
Well, turn off f.lux.
You can't expect him to be wise already.
19:16
I can't stand full temperature at 3AM
@Zoidberg I don't have it installed on my DT, because as I already said, I use my screens' settings
Warm colours don't make you sleepy, the time is
colours have very high impact
Genetic calibration is very strong on the astronomic input
user142019
I wish f.lux worked on my keyboard backlight.
@CatPlusPlus Have you read von Ditfurth, maybe?
19:17
No
he wrote a great series of popular science books
essentially about everything you need to know how humans exist
Never heard of him
it's quite old
Ell
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel what was that sim-city/strategy/simulation kind of game you showed me a while back? Began with a P or A I think :P
@Ell Anno 2070?
Ell
Ell
19:18
That's it
Ouch, typo.
If you want to play, I'm warning you: it's fucking hard.
Hoimar von Ditfurth (15 October 1921, Berlin – 1 November 1989) was a German physician and scientific journalist. He was the father of Christian v. Ditfurth, a writer and Jutta Ditfurth, a writer and journalist. He won many awards in his lifetime including the Adolf Grimme Awards in 1968, the Bambi Prize in 1972 and the Kalinga Prize in 1978. Biography Hoimar Gerhard Friedrich Ernst von Ditfurth (15.10.1921 -1.11.1989) was a German physician and scientific journalist. Particularly he is known as a TV moderator and writer of popular scientific books. Hoimar von Ditfurth was born in Berl...
user142019
Are there LED lights already that emulate incandescent light bulb?
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A: Bananas in comments?

R. Martinho FernandesThose are instances of U+1F34C ʙᴀɴᴀɴᴀ. I use them as a filler in comments. I used to use U+2063 ɪɴᴠɪsɪʙʟᴇ sᴇᴘᴀʀᴀᴛᴏʀ, but since some people complained they were seeing the invisible separators as squares, I switched to bananas. They also have the advantage of being represented in UT...

19:19
I really don't want to know how humans exist
> More than 20 comments posted in the past 3 days
@BoltClock AHAHAHA
user142019
It's illegal to sell incandescent light bulbs in this terrible country. :facepalm:
Ell
Ell
@Zoidberg rgb leds?
19:20
@BoltClock They went a bit bananas, yes.
lol
user142019
Because they produce heat so they "consume too much energy". Yes, genius. That means I need to burn less gas for radiator. Net energy consumption is same.
@Zoidberg I can send you some
Can I have a multi-line string in C++?
user142019
19:21
@ThePhD uh yes?
@BoltClock What.
Mods can edit other people's messages?
> This book was written nearly 100 years ago. Safety standards were different in those days. Please use common sense and contact someone who knows what they are doing before trying any experiment that seems dangerous.
user142019
@ThePhD std::string("foo\nbar")?
@EtiennedeMartel yes
And we still can't know who flagged something?
19:21
@Jerry, you scare me.
What is up with the double standards in here.
@Zoidberg I meant a string literal.
user142019
R"fuck(
meh
moo
)fuck"
yeah raw strings
Hm.
19:22
@ThePhD C++11 only. Or use `\`
user142019
"fuck" can be anything you want including nothing.
user142019
As long as it's the same on both sides.
Hope VC++ supports it!
it does
@ThePhD nope
@Rapptz what?
19:22
It's probably broken
user142019
@Rapptz MSVC supports something?
Last time I've tried it was broken
I used it a while ago, works okay
user142019
You probably used clang or GCC by accident.
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user142019
And now I want bacon.
user142019
19:23
And stars.
@BartekBanachewicz Hmm....a teenager building a battery from 50 pounds of lead and 10 gallons of nitric acid. What could possibly go wrong?
Ell
Ell
Off to the pub. Bye guys
> error C3513: ' ' : unsupported raw string literal delimiter character 1>nymphbatch.hlsl(1): error C3513: '\n' : unsupported raw string literal delimiter character
Lovely.
Space and linebreaks are not allowed in raw string literals.
user142019
Oh maybe it must be a valid identifier.
user142019
lolwot
user142019
19:28
Show your code.
Oh, it looks like I was missing the R"( <---- the paren
@ThePhD Of course they are. They would be useless if they were not.
Pimp my Shaders: pastebin.com/UpfDDf5Y
Now I can #include this one directly.
R"(abc)" does works with with ctpNov2012
what the hell is that
user142019
19:30
Try R"meh(all that shit here)meh".
user142019
Also just load shaders from a file at runtime.
A more robust way would be
#define CPPBEGININCLUSION R"(
#define CPPENDINCLUSION )"
@JerryCoffin Nitric acid?
Then use CCPBEGININCLUSION AND CPPENDINCLUSION in my shaders
user142019
f
19:31
1 min ago, by Zoidberg
Also just load shaders from a file at runtime.
user142019
#define CPPBEGININCLUSION "\n#define CPPENDINCLUSION"
@ThePhD fuck please no.
user142019
@ThePhD that is the same as this. ^
user142019
It won't work.
CPP runs before literals are scanned
19:32
@MartinJames Yes. For a lead/acid battery. Also has directions for how to build your own X-ray machine. Might be just marginally less safe than the one at the dentist's office...
@CatPlusPlus I have not decided how I am going to package external data.
At the moment, I feel like just including the blob of source code into the shader is as good a method as any.
user142019
huh seriously.
For the engine, I am debating between .rc files and embedding in the DLL and using FindResource() and friends,
@JerryCoffin ? lead-acid usually sulphuric, H2SO4, not HNO3
user142019
Wat. I'm confused. stacked-crooked.com/…
19:34
or packaging a separate .zip/.7z/.rar and just reading what I need from there are run-time.
You can't use token pasting outside of macro definitions
Except, I don't have .zip / .7z / .rar support in the engine yet (i will probably use LZMA).
So we went to 'what could go wronger' then?
user142019
Doesn't work without ## either.
Xeo
Xeo
@Xeo: Motivation is to avoid code duplication. If the templatized constructor uses tag dispatching to divide argument types into two or more categories (e.g., integral types should cause the constructor to find initialization arguments by index in a container, while non-integral types should be directly passed to a data member as an initialization argument), the copy constructor should forward its argument to the tag-dispatching function (the template) instead of duplicating part of the tag-dispatch logic itself. — KnowItAllWannabe 2 hours ago
user142019
19:34
Oh.
Xeo
Xeo
Does this make sense to anyone?
user142019
C preprocessor is FUBAR.
user142019
Why is this shit still in use.
Xeo
Xeo
@Zoidberg You're not allowed to make a raw-string-literal prefix through a macro or something, IIRC.
19:35
not⁣allowed
@MartinJames Well, I am going from memory -- could have been sulfuric. I think the "what could possibly go wrong" applies about equally either way...
@Xeo Not at all, but sound like an interesting subject.
@EtiennedeMartel Awesome!
They should go play Conservationalist Creed or something.
@EtiennedeMartel I have to agree with them. It would clearly be better to have one where you hunt and kill PETA (and probably at least a few Greenpeace) activists.
a) shall I prefer boost::begin/end to std::begin/end?
b) what will happen if try call either on nonsuppported type?
Xeo
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel Oh gawd... can somebody just punch them please?
user142019
@MooingDuck haha
@JerryCoffin Hey, I give money to Greenpeace every month.
user142019
19:38
@MooingDuck that's Stack Overflow--.
Xeo
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz a) boost one, does ADL for you b) compiler error, what else.
@Xeo Is the compiler error readable?
i.e. will the unsuspecting victim be able to recover?
> The tone on SO can be harsh on beginners. The idea is that beginners can ask their questions here without being asked to "RTFM".
	Image Image::_internalLoad(std::vector<unsigned char> data);

public:
	template<class Range>
	static Image Load (Range range) {
		return _internalLoad(std::vector<unsigned char>(boost::begin(range), boost::end(range)));
	}
I think a programmer with poor Google-Fu is not a good programmer.
Xeo
Xeo
19:40
@BartekBanachewicz Just try it?
As always, QoI issue.
@EtiennedeMartel I really only have one thing against Greenpeace: they're purely reactionary and completely negative. I think they should try to fund (or at least recognize) improvements, not just whine about what's bothering them.
I think a [computer-literate human] with poor Google-Fu is not a good [computer-literate human].
@EtiennedeMartel I just found this back (using google)
@JerryCoffin Their mission statement is to attract attention.
@JerryCoffin That's why I spray my Greenpeace donation with cyanide. I can't get hold of anthrax or botulinus.
19:43
> Reusing code is not free.
Oh my god.
This is so beautiful.
@EtiennedeMartel I know -- but recognizing (say) a scientist who did something great could still attract attention.
@JerryCoffin Indeed.
But it wouldn't sell as much.
@JerryCoffin I would force them all to live in a skyscraper with the lifts powered by a wind turbine.
I'm wondering if GP is actually in it for the money.
@MartinJames Depends on where you put said turbine.
Wind power works reasonably well if you carefully pick the location.
@EtiennedeMartel On the roof of the penthouse would be fine. I would visit on every windless day for a laugh.
Xeo
Xeo
19:47
@EtiennedeMartel Put it near a solar storm. And because we want fast energy delivery to the GP house, put them right next to it.
In this_thread:: there no more CClasses in my code!
gz
gzzicles, in fact.
I want a banana sticker.
@DeadMG hey, I'll repost something
@EtiennedeMartel I dunno -- and that's not a "I disagree" in disguise, it's saying I honestly don't know. It might or might not. To their credit, they do a little more positive now than they did years ago. I like to think (but certainly can't prove) that I had a little to do with that -- years ago in college went to a presentation by their VP (or somesuch) at the time. After his talk, I asked rather pointedly whether they did anything to recognize positive action.
	Image Image::_internalLoad(std::vector<unsigned char> data);

public:
	template<class Range>
	static Image Load (Range range) {
		return _internalLoad(std::vector<unsigned char>(boost::begin(range), boost::end(range)));
	}
19:56
@JerryCoffin You're cool.
(Seriously)
@EtiennedeMartel [sorry, still finishing] He looked baffled for a minute, and finally said "no, I guess not". Soon after, they started at least doing a little (their list of greenest electronics companies and such.
@EtiennedeMartel I know right?
I wasn't kidding when I said I'd stripdance or poledance to see Jerry as a Mod.
@BartekBanachewicz Looks fine.
@DeadMG yaaay
I wrote something that makes sense!
although
19:57
:grin:
you might wanna consider Range&&.
@ThePhD Can we have good notice so we can book cheap fares and hotel?
after all, if Range turns out to be a complex type, you don't wanna copy it unnecessarily, especially as you're just about to copy it again.
Will Range&& "just work"?
Or does it match only to rvalues?

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