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06:00
Cat's Lair

A blog was supposed to be here, but isn't.
Indeed.
Also, does anybody still have the Kyrostat design doc?
@CatPlusPlus "It is a mystery".
@CatPlusPlus works. from ontario canada
Server is braindead
Ontariiiiooooo
06:04
Canada. The land of the undefined.
Oh, it's not that complex.
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BTW, I am just joking
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:p
YUSUF AMIR!
06:08
"Ha"
In large quotation marks
The Jarl is going to destroy that.
Jarl ballin'.
Time to play with dd if=/dev/zero and then finally cancel
I built a processor in my backyard. It's blocking the Sun now.
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Q: Does it matter how long I stay at the strip club with a friend?

animusonSometimes when hanging out with friends, like Brucie and Jacob, I take them to the strip club. However, I'm rather impatient with the whole standing around a strip club doing nothing thing so I only wait a few seconds and then find my partner to leave. When I do that, they always comment that the...

GTA4 the most boring GTA game ever
06:15
@Mysticial Min maxing in the strip club.
Unless you give wheels negative friction
@CatPlusPlus That was fun.
Oh, yeah, did I mention I made an addon for Skyrim?
It's actually quite intense. :Đ
I still can't buy Skyrim on Steam. Jerks
Also, fuck my life. :(
I hate snow so much.
@DomagojPandža Pfff.
What, 4 inches? And some blizzard?
06:23
That's just the beginning. It gets a lot messier. And the best part is the -11.5°C
I'm not impressed.
And diesel engines use pressure to ignite the mixture in the engine. Below -6°C, the engine block loses so much energy that the mixture inside it is not impressed with the pressure applied.
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The coldest weather I have ever been to is probably something like -5°C
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I've actually had to develop a high-power heater for my father some time ago, since he has to go to work in these conditions. Brings up the temperature to a point where internal heaters can take over. Takes 10 minutes though.
Prior to that, he was pretty much fucked.
user1357851
06:27
Get a powerful PC
user1357851
that way you get a powerful PC, & a good heater at the same time :p
I've experienced -40°C
@Telkitty Does i7 @ 4.5 GHz, 32 GB of high freq. DDR3 RAM and 2xGTX690s running two LED monitors count as powerful? :P
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One of the guys I know of has a PC which he does not want to turn on during summer because it generates too much heat
@DomagojPandža why overclock it
06:29
@doug65536 Let me quote my favorite game NPC ever: "We do what we must because we can." :D
just ruins the machine a lot sooner
wait until you have weird issues and going back to stock clock doesn't fix it
I change computers on a yearly basis, mostly GPUs and RAM, although I try to keep up with the processor changes, we're still at i7 3rd gen?
it's probably sitting right against thermal throttle anyway so it really isn't going 4.5 GHz
Don't worry, it's quite stable. I take care of my babies. :D
I've seen systems where the BIOS says it's 38°C then you go into windows and check speedfan or something and it zips right to throttle temp and slows down (under all-processor load)
06:32
But it's not running always @ 4.5GHz, it is usually much lower since it's not required.
It has a way of throttling based on usage.
Also, BIOS is a thing of the past, UEFI all the way. :P
same thing
Not really
so they replaced text printing routines with put-pixel based slowest-possible-renderer library and changed bootup and dropped all the old INT calls
They're still there for compatibility.
But there's much more to UEFI than that, of course.
are they? try booting DOS
06:34
Those are just the obvious things, don't judge a book by its covers. :D
@doug65536 Why would I do that? :D
I'm all in favor of forcing people to better things. People shouldn't really bitch about not being able to boot DOS.
Run it in a virtual machine like anyone else. :P
you claim that all the old BIOS calls are there in UEFI.
good riddance with the old BIOS APIs, but what they replaced it with is not nice IMHO
Backwards compatibility is what I claim. UEFI is not a prehistoric museum. Its compatibility support is reasonable.
What I can agree on is that UEFI is a bit abstracted in terms of kicking users off the "control train".
But it's new, everything that is new has an initial problem hammering period. With something as fundamental as a replacement for BIOS, it might take years.
UEFI rendering is only relevant for pre-boot configuration tools and stuff
It can afford to be ~inefficient~ because it doesn't matter
In and of itself, I find the upgrade to actual rendering of graphical elements in the pre-boot sequence a very welcome change.
I love writing long configuration lines as much as the next guy, but it's lovely to see.
try memtest86 doing the cache-disabled test and press F1 for options. It uses graphics mode text drawing routines, so my CoreI7 extreme @ 3.46 takes about 5 seconds to clear the screen, one putpixel at a time
06:41
ASUS UEFI config tool has mouse support :v:
Yeah, it's awesome. It was weird for the first time to drop into it. :D
And, how could I forget, for a hobby OS developer, the fact I can say a partial fuck you to the CPU while writing drivers is fantastic.
I will be sad when video cards don't have text mode anymore
And jumping around modes from the prehistoric real mode, to protected to long is also gone. Some pre-boot love can now get the full memory range.
Meh, text mode
Good riddance
You can still have "text mode", it'll just look decent now. :P
06:46
BIOS is obsolete piece of crap and UEFI wins in every aspect
Although, I must say that UEFI took quite a while to get here.
because I want it drawing graphics and animating a cursor when I'm trying to adjust some setting that is causing instability
Oh no a cursor
How will my powerful computer deal with drawing a cursor
That's why I never wish to be involved in bringing new stuff to the world. Every time someone makes a change, no matter how good, someone will find a need to bitch about it.
I can't remember ever thinking, "god I wish the implementation of my motherboard's bootup firmware was better"
06:51
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A: Writing For loops efficiently

Barath BushanOne different way of writing a loop may be... register int i; for(i = 0 ; i < count ; i++) { // Loop Code } Declaring the index variable of a loop , as a register storage class , is "supposed" to enhance performance by minimizing access time. Again this is just a suggestion to a compile...

^^ wut
@doug65536 Really? How about MBR partitioning
Is he seriously advocating the use of register?
@doug65536 Well, you can always use pre-UEFI hardware and flip the world the finger. :P
@Mysticial You use it too.. though in this context it's utterly retarded.
adding a new format of bootup information required making it use graphics mode animation did it?
06:53
register does nothing
@Rapptz I meant in this context. But yes I use it, mostly as a hint to the reader.
@doug65536 Jesus it's not required
@CatPlusPlus And mode switching, pre-boot access to the entire memory, separating drivers from the CPU, network capability, telling MBR to fuck off with its old partitioning scheme.
it's no big deal. I believe the CPU should be doing next-to-nothing in the settings screen. to increase the probability of successfully changing a setting that causes some instability without wiping the CMOS altogether
Jesus, some people really are stuck in the old ways of thinking.
06:57
yeah, us "old guys" don't like black-screen issues or the CMOS setup screen freezing up
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Q: Cast Unsigned Ints near Max Value

PumpkinPieThis is probably a pretty obvious question to someone with the know how, but it's giving me grief. My code unsigned char arr[4] = {buffer[pos-4], buffer[pos-3], buffer[pos-2], buffer[pos-1]}; unsigned int size = arr[0] << 24 | arr[1] << 16 | arr[2] << 8 | arr[3]; printf(" \n ...

^^ free rep
Code::Blocks froze on me. Whee.
My lack of interest for reputation accumulation is becoming a concern. :D
@Rapptz if you wait a while it wakes up sometimes lol
07:05
It's definitely gone.
@Rapptz RIP.
lol I reopened it and the source map isn't saved but the files are (obviously)
yeah, I've seen that too... pretty sure its the code completion because I managed to get it to freeze up consistently when I'm editing a certain piece of code and press . (period)
Bullshit... I was trying to catch a Corphish and it used Guillotine on my Skarmory... Fuck.
Wish there were better IDEs for MinGW/GCC
07:07
QtCreator?
I wish gdb actually worked
@Rapptz There is... Write it yourself IDE. :P
@doug65536 Oh that too.
(emacs)
But vim owns anyway fuck IDEs
We'll always have vim.
Ahahah, that's my cat <3
07:09
wait I thought you liked graphics mode and a mouse cursor
I use graphics mode
I don't know about you but I don't write text with my mouse
On screen keyboard master race
Dammit, that's the least significant feature of UEFI, doug. Besides, vim still goes through the rendering routines, it is just emulated to look classic. And the mouse is still here.
really? I thought people had old pocket pc emulators and drew their programs. no wonder my projects take so long
But vim is terminal only program right guys right~
07:12
SSH + screen FTW
in text mode
I suppose you develop your programs in assembly because C++11 is just too damn new :P
I write my programs in hex via debug.com
Fuck assembly, opcodes.
you should see a Core I7 extreme and GTX 580 SLI scrolling in text mode
cat a 16MB text file in 1ms
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Server side C++ on vim (ssh), white text on black background on the left side, GUI visual C++ black on white on the right side - the new super hacker style $
07:17
I really need to get rid of some of these.
I only have one iPhone.
Same here.
Yeah I wouldn't want to have iPhones either
I don't even like it.
Accumulated over development cycles since 2007.
Hard to get rid of, though, everyone* wants the newest one.
07:19
Not me.
:)
*Except those who don't want it or don't wish to make money off it.
@Rapptz There, brodisclaimer. :P
Bleh mobile market
I still have an iPhone 4. Before that I had a Razr.
I don't update phones often.
@CatPlusPlus Fuck the mobile market itself, write backend stuff for poor fools who think they're going to be the next Angry Birds.
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07:21
so hackerish.
480x270.
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Oh shoosh :p
We should play a game
I would like to pass a law to eutanize people who use the word "hacker" in ways other than derogatory. And make Cat Plus Plus the head of the execution board.
I don't know it's funny to watch them squirm and defend YE OLDE MEANINGE
07:26
We would have execution styles which include, but are not limited to:
SSHing into a remote server and using it to send out a command bouncing over several servers until it comes to the execution chamber's computer and activates the electric chair.
Beating them with an oldfashioned chair.
Combining the previous two with rubber gloves.
Making them read CAD
Though that's so hilariously bad they might like it
Hahahahah
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Hello, comrade Abyx. Have you brought us vodka and hookers?
Shit C++. 3 errors but over 100 lines of output?
07:37
Nice, you get 33.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333‌​333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333‌​333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333‌​3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 lines per error. Congrats.
You don't have enough 3's.
They're expensive. :(
Oh hey I remember that I started Witcher 2 playthrough 3 months ago
I already forgot the controls this is going to be fun
@CatPlusPlus Me too, got to Flotsam and sent it to hell.
Btw. get the enhanced edition, much more awesomeness.
It's a free update.
I have EE
07:46
It's quite the experience to play it with an über oversized depth buffer.
Very... Smooth.
@CatPlusPlus Also, apparently CDProjekt Red figured out there's this thing called an acceleration structure, so Witcher 3: The Wild Hunt will have open-ended areas.
@Mysticial When do you begin at YouTube?
Mid-June. But I may postpone if I decide to go on vacation.
Is that usual to have such a discrepancy between accepting and getting to work?
08:02
I still have to learn VIM fully.
It's still mind boggling tow ork with the damn thing..
It takes some time to master the jedi art of text editing.
Just use whatever you're comfortable with.
The whole text editor argument is the dumbest thing since tabs vs spaces
Ah well.
In the meantime,
MODEL OUTLINES q_q
Most sources keep telling me to do a post-processing effect on the stencil buffer.
@ScottW Once, I met people who legitimately spoke/chatted with each other in numbers.
08:04
@ScottW users.find("Scott W").giefVacation();
@Rapptz Looks like foreach C++11 wankery with XML.
it's.. ..kinda sexy.
Speaking of vacations, I spent mine writing damn web server tech.
It looked like a good C++ library so I'm using it.
Sounds like fun.
08:07
lol just looked at the source, 1 .cpp file with 10k+ lines
shit's huge
@Rapptz My linear algebra portions of the engine have several files with 19k+ lines. I'm not proud of them size-wise, but it was necessary.
I've written things with a lot of lines too but 10k+ without it being split up more is kinda eh
The most gangsta of them all is the matrix support
Yeah, splitting is good. But with the math library it seemed out of place.
You can split it up easier with math imo. Ah well.. not really.
It's a pain in the ass just to look at the size of the scrolling bar handle.
08:10
It's a single Matrix class?
Yeah, fully oiled with lowlevel SSE and AVX where applicable.
Ah.
It's funny though, I always try to write as little as I can, but the math stuff just keeps going. There is some unrolling though, especially with higher-order matrices used for dynamic SH calculations (rotations and the like)
I want something like that.
I rolled my own matrix class but
There's no SSE or anything. =[
Arrggg.
Dropbox's context menu refuses to show up in my Windows 8 File Explorer. ._.
08:14
And server is officially dead
Gbye we hardly knew ye
When's the memorial service?
Windows 8 can suck ma dick.
Yes, I'm stuck on Windows 8.
"stuck"
didn't you voluntarily install it?
I got not one, but FIVE emails from OVH that I just pressed the "kill server" butan
I like email notifications that I rebooted the server.
That is truly a pressing issue.
08:16
I had to put that in cron myself
@Rapptz No, it came bundled with it.
I was tempted to nuke it but eh.
first thing I notice, if a property doesn't exist it returns an empty string. Why ;_;
In the end, I just nuked User Account Control permanently through the Group Policy manager.
Why are you "stuck"? You can't downgrade?
I can downgrade. But then that money they forced me to spend to get Windows 8 on this computer (and nothing else) will be wasted.
So, to hell with it. I'm gonna use it and beat its damn idiotic pieces of nonsense.
08:20
"forced"? Are they staring at your computer to make sure you installed it?
It came pre-installed, is what I mean.
I didn't get a choice of changing it.
edit-reject-pls
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Q: class assignment help- read input into a parser

user2125805Here is a starting point that my instructor has provided us. I am having trouble finding a way to read input from a command in UNIX environment such as "ls" or "hist" using the provided parcer gettoks(). gettoks() is linked from a .l that has the code for the parser. how can toks (which is declar...

Ah. I thought someone gave you a license of W8.
what the hell man.
there's nothing C++ about that
Sometimes I forget Lounge<C++> is part of SO.
There is a cout quite inside the loop
08:22
ah.
no <iostream> or using namespace std
There are legs on a cow, does that make it a horse? :$
I kid', I kid'.
lol it got accepted
reviewers man.
You should lose rep if your shitty edit got rolledback
thanks for the rollback
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You can paint a donkey and 'make' it a zebra though :p
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08:25
bye
lol
adios
It's okay, you're Dog.
And apparently, dogs with IT skills are the source of dislikes for cat videos on YouTube.
.......
So.
having a stroke?
Yes.
The reason Dropbox context menus, handlers, etc. were not showing up.
08:30
That's nice
Is because I had turned off User Account Control on my computer.
But not just turning down the Slider all the way.
Mark of the Ninja and War of the Roses are on sale
maybe you should uninstall dropbox, throw your computer out the window and then not worry
strokes are srs issues
Dunno about War but MotN is fun
I had gone into gpedit.msc and turned off User Account Control on a fundamental level,
so I could copy and paste in places like C:/ and Program Files, and do checkouts into those top-level locations without it hiding or nuking the folders I had checked out.
08:33
Turning off UAC is silly
You have UAC on? o_o
Every sane person has UAC on
Also ugh screw Witcher I'll try playing AC2 again
UAC removing any folders I check out into C:\, Program Files, or anything inside or below that,
08:34
Why does this game have no windowed mode :argh:
is not very sane.
I turn off UAC every time. What an annoyance.
You shouldn't touch those folders
....
:3c I see.
Oh I see.
08:35
Program Files being read-only is a feature
Not a very good one.
It's like you'd expect to write to / or /usr on *nix system
I should be able to deposit things in C:\Program Files\Code if I so choose.
Why
Windows is so damn retarded for using the \ to denote folder traversal.
08:36
There's ProgramData for that
Hi guys, not sure if this is the right place to promote my FOSS project, but here it is. CodeQuery, a C/C++/Java code searching/ browsing tool. github.com/ruben2020/codequery
@ThePhD What for
Giving me a prompt to ask me if I want to, letting me hit 'Yes', and then hiding, borking, or deleting anything I checkout, copy, or move into C:/Program Files/Code is just mean.
Program Files is read-only for the same reason Windows folder is read-only
@DomagojPandža Luckily you can use / and it'll work just fine.
08:38
Except it's really not that special of a folder. Programs write into it I write into it.
So it won't be easy to modify executables sitting there and undermining security
Programs don't write into it
Trusted installers write into it
._.
An Admin acccount with full privileges should be able to change that folder.
No
Admin account doesn't have full privileges that's the whole point of UAC
Selective elevation, principle of least authority
(I actually use my own folders that aren't read-only but I also don't moan about UAC being annoying when it does what it's supposed to do)
In either case, turning off UAC shouldn't break the rest of the OS and other software along with it, which is the policy Windows 8 has adopted.
@CatPlusPlus Use Artificial Cock
08:42
Dropbox dies, context menus disappear from File Explorer, and other Windows 8 applications refuse to work period.
That's what you get for fiddling with undocumented switches
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why am I getting this: -30 Serial upvoting reversed
I'd live with UAC if it didn't give me a prompt to copy/move things in Program Files, or if it didn't swallow up my Clones/CHeckouts ._.
user1357851
wth?
You downvoted someone 30 times?
user1357851
08:43
who are upvoting and downvoting me?
Wait that wouldn't make sense.
user1357851
precisely
Ask on meta. That's weird.
user1357851
someone upvoted me about 10+ times these a few days. Then someone removed/downvoted me today
@ThePhD Stop using Program Files in a way it's not intended to maybe
That should help
08:45
Sigh.
Fine.
I'll put all my code somewhere else.
@Telkitty I think that's intended behavior to counteract chain upvoting.
Still, C:/Code shouldn't behave the same way as C:/Program Files
Some of the more hardcore SO users here can verify.
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@DomagojPandža then stop people from chain upvoting in the first place
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a bit retarded to allow that to happen in the first place, then remove the votes a day later.
08:48
@Telkitty Contact the Stack Exchange squad for such comments.
I have no authority over the matter.
I just waste time here, just like the rest of us.
user1357851
I don't care about the reps, just find it a bit weird
Oh it's serial upvoting.
Not downvoting.
Someone upvoted you three times and it got reversed eh.
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lol someone or some people, I don't know how many or who *shrug*
one person
Irrelevant, life goes on. Reputation is worthless. Just get over 1k so that people here don't think of you as a troll and that's it.
08:52
I only have 500. ;~;
Now you have 591. It's an improvement over 581.
Oh. You didn't have to go upvote me. D:
That's serial upvting and shit, yo.
Maybe I read the answer.
And then upvoted it.
Hm. Maybe.
And then it's just a freak upvote.
08:55
.... Or maybe you didn't!
We'll never know. :$
q_q forever unsolved mysterryy.
@ThePhD What's wrong with C:\users\you? All my code is in subfolder sets there.
\ makes me cringe. :(
@MartinJames Nothing is wrong with it. All of my libraries, though, were just kept in C:\Program Files\Code
Installer packages (OpenCV, etc.) would install there, and what wasn't installed there was placed into it manually.
08:59
I keep my code in the cloud.

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