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sbi
11:00 PM
@sehe I can't make head nor tail of your statement, but here, have the brain bleach.
 
@sbi erm. What.
 
sbi
BTW, @sehe, considering that it is your birthday today, and that this is a Saturday night. why are you hanging out here? Don't you have real friends to celebrate with so that you need to put up with us psychopaths?
 
anyways, whatever
why was that ^ starred?
 
sbi
Damn, now you broke my starring streak.
 
oh yea, you took the starboard
 
sbi
11:04 PM
@TonyTheLion Presumably because it seems so fitting for you?
 
@sbi lol
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Well, if that is from "friends" in your FB timeline, then I am not going to ask you why you are putting up with us psychopaths.
 
no that's not from my FB
I found that on reddit
 
sbi
I'd say that, too, if I were in your place now.
 
oh don't start
you've tried that on me before, remember?
 
sbi
11:07 PM
@TonyTheLion I'm on Windows. I have to click on Start even to end the session.
@TonyTheLion No, I don't remember.
 
lol
@sbi well, probably your selective memory turning on just about now
 
sbi
Selective memories turn you on? Um.
 
oh, I wish
lol
 
@EtiennedeMartel right, what other species is in heat 24/7/12? ("in heat" means, ready for reproduction.) just to take the most obvious.
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Why? It's not like they are easier to come by on the web that porn, are they?
 
11:09 PM
Now this is cool.
 
if I want to refer to all the template arguments packed into a variadic template that looks like template < ... A>, would I just type out 'A' or 'A..' or '...A' ?
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Ouch. Look at them bent columns. This cellar is breaking down on him any moment.
 
I hate how every variadic template tutorial is about printing shit, since I'm on the topic. You'd think people would be creative.
 
sbi
@ThePhD How are we to know what you would do?
 
@sbi oh... I wanted you to merely notice the fire. Forget breaking columns
 
sbi
11:11 PM
@TonyTheLion I can't forget them. I'm a gravity.bound creature.
 
@sbi Let's say I want to just stick it into somebody else's template. How do I pass that 'type' or 'collection of types' to another template?
 
Gravity is for wimps.
 
Ell
If you had to uniquely identify every human being on the planet, how would you do it?
 
@Ell Burn mark.
 
sbi
@ThePhD Yeah, recursive printing seems to be the "Hello, world!" of variadic template in the same way that factorial is the one of TMP.
 
11:12 PM
Shotgun Harry Potter Lightning Bolt.
 
sbi
@ThePhD Please do not attempt to stick your A into my templates, ellipsis leading or trailing.
 
@Ell Doesn't DNA already provide a unique id?
 
Ell
@stacked what if they burned over said burn mark? How would you identify them?
@stacked twins have identical DNA
 
sbi
@Ell By the overburned burn mark?
 
@Ell Shoot everyone.
Then there's only one left to identify.
 
sbi
11:13 PM
@Ell Nope.
 
See, that thing can even solve this problem.
 
Ell
@sbi two people could burn the same mark over
And don't they? O.o
 
@Ell By their Irises.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Says a thing made of tin.
 
Ell
Identical twins do? They are an egg split at birth
 
@sbi I think they do..
 
Ell
I mean after conception :L
 
Unless they mutated.
 
Ell
But if they mutate, yiu can't identify them by it - unless you allow a threshold
 
You need a combined key of DNA + fingerprint.
 
sbi
11:16 PM
> ...using the controls made me feel more like I was programming a VCR (remember those?) than having sex.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ouch!
 
@Ell IIRC Spiderman's DNA changed.
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked If they would, nobody could tell them. They do have birthmarks in different places, though, and their fingerprints differ, IIRC.
 
@StackedCrooked Superheroes are not people.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Says a thing made of tin.
 
@sbi Haha, not nobody. Nobody but themselves.
@sbi :(
 
11:18 PM
TLDR: Identical twins have identical DNA but different fingerprints.
 
Not everyone has a fingerprint, though.
 
I have no idea what genotype and phenotype means.
 
(Hint: some people have no hands)
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes I am not so sure. How could a human being even develop a sense of identity if it is constantly confused with another human being that looks exactly the same? And developing an identity is necessary in order to be able to tell yourself from the rest of humanity.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, toeprints then?
 
11:20 PM
@StackedCrooked Some people have no hands and no feet.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Dammit!
You're always one step ahead of me.
 
sbi
Noseprints.
 
Eye prints
 
Some people have no...
 
sbi
...nose?
 
11:21 PM
eyes?
some people are not
 
As a last resort we can use the burn mark.
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked I think genotype refers to what you inherited (through DNA), while phenotype refers to what you acquired along the way.
 
Aha, so std::pair<genotype, phenotype> is unique id.
Ok, maybe add the burn mark just to be sure.
 
@sbi The phenotype is how the genes express themselves
 
@StackedCrooked The phenotype is mutable (e.g. losing your hair). That does not work well as an identifier.
 
sbi
11:23 PM
Really, this trying to find a unique identifier for human beings is silly. You just need to ask them what dish they like most, which movie they loved, and which position they prefer in sex, and you will find no two alike in billions.
@NikiC Yeah, and how is that determined if not by whatever happens to you along your way?
 
Ell
Phenotype is effects of the DNA? Eg blue eyes, genotype is actual genetic data? Idk
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hm.. That's a strange property. It doesn't identify but it does provide uniqueness.
 
@sbi If you mean that the phenotype depends on the environment, then yes. Though the way you say it does not sound quite right ^^
 
Ell
Hmm. Implant a chip at birth, removing the chip stops the heart! Then we can use some data stored on it. What are the flaws of that?
Assuming a wealthy country
 
@Ell How do you ensure that removing the chip stops the heart? Maybe you can find a way to remove it without killing you ^^
 
11:28 PM
@Ell Cosmic rays.
 
sbi
@Ell The flaw is that some guys will find a way to hack this before the first ones having it implanted have stopped drinking their mother's milk.
 
Ell
Darn cosmic rays.
There must be some way
Do yiu think its possible to identify people.over the internet?
 
Ell
How?
 
Oh, I read that as "impossible".
 
Ell
11:33 PM
Ahh kk
It does seem to be pretty impossible
 
OMG fucking rain all day
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
 
Ell
That's Britain.
 
@Ell I think in 15 years your problem will be solved with the introduction of Google Tracking (which will track the moves of every living being on the world in realtime)
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion You live in England, don't you? What did you expect?
 
Hmm, so Twitter in French translates "Followers" as "Abonnés" (litt. "subscribers"), and "Following" as... "Following". Damn.
 
11:34 PM
@sbi I expected sunshine! :P
 
Warblegarble....
 
welcome to Rainyville
 
Variadics are kicking my ass. @__@
 
and I've got a headache
fucking sambooka
 
Ell
Nouveau is kicking my ass atm
 
11:36 PM
The Graphics Drivers?
 
@sbi oh gawd. Nope.
 
sbi
So?
 
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I suck at spelling
:(
 
sbi
You spill at sucking.
 
11:38 PM
or that
 
Ell
@thephd yeah
 
@Ell Haha, well, damn. Good luck soldier.
 
Ell
I'm installing binaries though. And this time following the readme
Going round the houses
 
sbi
Wow. Beginning next year, Daimler implements a system that allows their employees to have all the mails automatically deleted that arrive for them while they are on vacation. (There'll be a note to the senders.)
 
Ell
that's considerate
 
11:47 PM
@sbi WTF? How is that useful?
 
user1174868
scheme
 
Ell
@rmart with smartphones n shiz, vacations can no longer be vacations
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Have you ever come back from a three-week vacation and spent days digging though several hundred emails?
 
@sbi So?
You can always delete them yourself.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, you haven't.
 
11:49 PM
I don't see the point of losing them forcibly.
 
Ell
Oh I got the wrong idea.
 
noting the senders won't do any good if the sender is an automated system
 
sbi
@Ell Yeah, the same article mentions that Volkswagen employees that got Blackberries from their company are unable to received (company) emails on them during the night.
@R.MartinhoFernandes "...allows their employees..."
 
> I really hate the idea of shoehorning std::unique_ptr into situations where RAII and value semantics are way more useble... The real question of something::something should be: "Why does this call 'new'?"
More crazy people...
I think I'll close comments on this. If I can figure out how.
Neither have I.
 
sbi
I am now scheming how to have this C++-unrelated crap binned.
 
11:52 PM
I'm gonna need a serious Variadic Bootcamp to figure this one out...
Maybe I could ask @Xeo, his face is popping up in most of the SO answers I look at.
 
I really love this subreddit.
 
Along with some guy named Kerrek S.B.
 
@DeadMG Ah, I needed a good read on the topic.
 
it surprises me that you would want a refresher
 
11:55 PM
I don't understand some things.
 
I mean, I know that ThePhD is generally an utter scrub who knows nothing, but I'd expect you to know :P
expert sex change
 
Like, IIRC it's possible for ... to expand to "a, b, a, b". ...Or something like that.
 
There, thread closed. No more "but unique_ptr something" nonsense.
 
sbi
@Jordan Have you tried stackexchange.com yet? I hear it's good.
 
Ell
It smells of farts in my room :(
 
sbi
11:57 PM
@Jordan So I heard wrong.
@Jordan Well, that should make you think.
 
Jordan's been questionbanned for eternity
 

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