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6:00 AM
@Insilico hehe, yea my point. :) Given a choice I'd rather code in lisp or haskell. Sadly I don't have that choice atm.
the sbcl source code for their whole compiler is simpler than boost code. x)
 
@nixeagle It doesn't help that C compatibility is a C++ "feature", which makes it really crufty.
 
@Insilico yea, that ought to start getting depreciated over time. I mean it is not even true today.
 
@Insilico It means that C++ is alive. Bad sign would be when people stop bothering.
 
@StackedCrooked I still don't want to be the person to diagnose ICE problems. :-)
 
But nobody is asking you to do that, right? :)
 
6:04 AM
@StackedCrooked Hopefully, no. :-)
 
I'm asking you! :P
 
prepare the poop
 
I've become familiar with parts of C++11. But dammit it is big. I just realized that I haven't looked into constexpr yet. And apparently it's like a completely new language.
 
@nixeagle You can't deprecate it, and even if you did, it wouldn't change a thing.
 
I can probably spend a lifetime learning C++.
 
6:10 AM
There are much better things to do.
 
@StackedCrooked You share Bjarne's opinion on C++11 (the "completely new language" bit)
 
@CatPlusPlus Any suggestions?
You mean like watching anime?
 
Anything else.
 
@StackedCrooked You can chat with the people on Lounge<C++>.... no wait stupid suggestion.
 
6:12 AM
@StackedCrooked constexpr behaves a lot like haskell without monads. :P
 
You mean like ML?
 
Meh, SML.
 
I landed on this page and I can't find a link the the article it is referring to..
Actually in 2006 I plowed through YAHT.
And after that I didn't find a good follow up project.
So that's my Haskell story.
Donations are welcome.
 
6:37 AM
Oh WTF...
I'm playing with my Uncle's new laptop...
and I can't stand this thing they call Windows 8.
 
I haven't had my first encounter with Windows 8 yet. I try to remain oblivious.
 
It's also got the newest line of AMD processors - and it somehow doesn't have the latest instruction set. I hoping to be able to run my XOP code on it... fuck
 
What is XOP code?
 
Like, they fucking took out the start button.
@StackedCrooked The newest AMD processors have the FMA4 and XOP instruction sets. I already support them in that y-cruncher app. But I've never been able to test it.
 
@Mysticial On the plus side, there's a new Fairy Tail ep availabel today :)
 
6:40 AM
I was exited that my Uncle's new laptop was AMD since I would test it... what a letdown...
@StackedCrooked Never had much interest in that show.
At least that laptop has USB3. So I can transfer the entire primary copy of my Anime to the 2 x 3TB before I fly out tomorrow night.
*And leave behind the 2 x 2TB for my dad.
 
So different architectures support different instruction sets. This means that compilers like GCC will typically compile only for the commonly available instruction sets? And thus missing out on potential performance benefits?
 
@StackedCrooked Yeah
All those versions of SSE.
 
That's a pity.
 
And then you have AVX, FMA4, XOP, FMA3, AVX2...
You can set the options though.
-march=sse3 or something like that.
 
Are there any of those options that would lead to big difference on my Intel i7?
 
6:43 AM
-msse3 actually.
@StackedCrooked Depends on what you're doing.
And which generation i7.
 
Hm.. an old one :)
 
The latest two generations have AVX. Big difference if you're running Linpack.
 
I have an iMac late 2009 model.
 
Linpack of course is useless for anything other than flashing your e-penis.
 
Er..
To each his own, I guess..
 
6:45 AM
There aren't a lot of everyday apps that actually use AVX. I use it because it's in HPC...
I picked up a lot of this this black friday.
Almost enough to completely upgrade my Anime boxes.
 
Using these technologies implies writing assembly code?
 
Hi Folks
want your HELP
any idea on this "Construct Binary Tree From Inorder and Preorder/Postorder Traversal" leetcode.com/2011/04/…
 
@StackedCrooked Intrinsic code.
Just look up any SSE question for an example.
 
__m128i a = _mm_set_epi32(4, 3, 2, 1);
Stuff like that..
 
yeah
 
6:47 AM
That's not too bad.
 
Although it gets a lot more hardcore than that to get any real speed out of it.
 
In what way?
 
lemme see if I can find the example I posted here a while back
For starters, my 93-point answer has some heat-producing code for the purpose of consuming as much power as possible using vector instructions.
That's in C with intrinsics.
Here's the one I posted a while back. Real SSE code doing an actual task.
Apr 16 at 4:38, by Mysticial
#define ymi_CVN_u64d19_to_strd_u1_SSE41(T,A){   \
    const __m128d _SCALE0 = _mm_set1_pd(0.000004096);   \
    /* const __m128d _SCALE1 = _mm_set1_pd(4096.); */   \
    const __m128d _SCALE2 = _mm_set1_pd(0.000000001);   \
    const __m128d _SCALE3 = _mm_set1_pd(0.00000001);    \
    const __m128d _TEN = _mm_set1_pd(10.);  \
    const __m128d _ADD = _mm_set1_pd(0.00000000000001); \
    const __m128d _MASK0 = _mm_set1_pd(4503599627370496.);  \
    const __m128d _MASK1 = _mm_castsi128_pd(_mm_set_epi32(0x000fffff,0xffffffff,0x000fffff,0xffffffff));    \
But that's a particularly extreme example. It isn't much different from pure assembly.
 
Do you compile with a C or a C++ compiler?
 
Doesn't matter.
Most of the HPC code I write is clean C.
 
6:51 AM
Perhaps a silly question, but why use a macro instead of inline function?
 
@StackedCrooked The compiler won't inline it. It's too big.
The macro is the entire body of a loop.
 
Interesting. I never thought of using macros as a way to enforce inlining.
Bjarne would frown upon that though.
 
i never heard of it, but it wouldn't surprise me if some compiler did the opposite, to factor out code as routines
 
@StackedCrooked That's not exactly what I'm using them for. Here, a forced inline function is probably good enough. But in a lot of other code, I use macros in place of templates.
@Cheersandhth.-Alf I'd kick the compiler if it did that.
 
e.g. might get a whole piece of code into cache that way
 
6:54 AM
@Cheersandhth.-Alf That particular example above doesn't reduce to a loop. It's not an unrolled loop.
It's a lot of straight-line code.
 
If it did reduce to a loop, I actually might have tried to roll it up. Since you're right, it does hog up icache.
The code in my 97-point answer. That's genuine massive loop-unrolling.
Should not be done unless you're trying to burn your processor. :P
 
Which one is your 97-point answer again?
Btw, I thought you didn't care about rep?
:)
 
Did I say 93 earlier? I kinda lost track.
97
A: how to achieve 4 flops per cycle

MysticialI've done this exact task before. But it was mainly to measure power consumption and CPU temperatures. The following code (which is fairly long) achieves close to optimal on my Core i7 2600K. The key thing to note here is the massive amount of manual loop-unrolling as well as interleaving of mul...

 
WTF, you 5133 upvotes on your top answer.
That's unreal..
 
6:59 AM
I still find it kinda hard to swallow.
 
Ah found the 97-point question.
It's not a reliable identifier though.
 
I didn't think anything could possibly trump the regex question in the near-future - let alone myself and in under 5 months.
@StackedCrooked ?
 
@Mysticial The score of posts can change.
 
ah
 
I'm just rambling in my state of sleep deprivation.
 
7:02 AM
Last time I checked on it, it had 93. I do remember getting votes on it, but I never really bothered to "mentally add them up" if you know what I mean. So much going for me recently for me to care much.
 
@Mysticial The reqex question?
 
@StackedCrooked The 4.4k regex answer.
 
Hm, there doesn't seem to be an answers category.
 
I'm guessing that with >5000 upvotes no need to be concerned about the 2 downvotes.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Are you planning on downvoting? :D
Ah the answer with the messed up fonts. :)
Actually I learned something from the branch prediction question, but not really from the regex question.
 
7:05 AM
no, i just wondered about those downvotes. like, if downvotes had to be explained, then it would take some guts to downvote a >5000 upvote question.
 
I kinda wish that they weren't there. But out of that many votes I can totally accept that they were either misclicks or revenge downvotes from whoever I pissed off.
 
Or Australians.
 
That was a stupid joke..
 
well, living down under, they have no choice, if they're going to vote at all it has to be down there
not many years ago they voted to continue having Her Majesty the Queen as their queen (head of state?)
downvoting the queen
 
7:09 AM
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^ It mentions Tony!
 
I think with 2 downvotes on that. (one was fairly recent) You'd have to suspect that the devs couldn't resist the urge to take a look at who they were. (even though they aren't supposed to)
@StackedCrooked But Tony isn't a pony. :)
 
On a chat anyone can pretend to be a lion :P
I bet he's really a pony.
Ah, and apparently bobince is from Bavaria.
 
@Mysticial He used to be a tiger. Now he's a lion. So he can become a pony.
 
7:14 AM
That's the natural evolution.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Are they even in the same family or class?
I'd expect tigers and lions to be in the same class at the very least.
 
define class?
 
Ponies are horses right? But that's on a significantly branch.
 
@Rapptz Some part on the biological classification tree.
 
7:16 AM
@Mysticial ..Which? That's rather broad.
 
I heard that a horse and a donkey can produce offspring.
 
Because we all share Animalia kingdom
 
@Rapptz I wouldn't know. What lowest level do lions and tigers have in common? Class? Phylum? Family?
 
and we're all in the same class mammalia..
 
And then Ponies/Horses and Lions?
 
7:17 AM
Same Genus for Lions/Tigers. Panthera
 
Oh wow, that's pretty far down.
 
@Mysticial They both growl.
 
For horses vs tigers we're only in the same Class.
Don't share the same Genus or Family.
 
@StackedCrooked Which lowers the enemy's attack.
@Rapptz So that's 3 levels higher.
 
being in the same class isn't very impressive
 
7:20 AM
@Rapptz Which is also true in school...
 
lol
 
Heck, Jeremy Lin was in my freshman bio class in high school.
If I can find my yearbook for that year. It might be worth a lot.
Not that I'd sell it though.
 
Which reminds me that I still haven't watched Kuroko no Basket yet.
 
That name Kuroko scares me... regardless of what context.
 
It has a 8.71 user rating. That's really high for myanimelist.
 
7:24 AM
I don't even know what it means in that context
Is it just a name?
 
@StackedCrooked Shit, I was just about to name Madoka as a counter-example to that. Then I realized that's also yuri...
 
Probably should have clicked the link, seems like it.
Kuroko means mole though
Nice name..
 
You people and your weird cartoons.
 
The only "Kuroko" I know is the one from Railgun...
 
"Natsume's Book of Friends" is way overrated and it's because of those damn female votes.
 
7:26 AM
detective conan best anime
 
It's a shoujo right?
Different category, can't rate them together.
 
I've seen Panty and Stocking and I don't need to see anything else ever.
 
Speaking of shoujo: Tonari no Kaibutsu is really good IMO.
 
@StackedCrooked I watched about half the first episode before I put it down.
 
7:27 AM
Anyone watches K here?
 
@Mysticial Tastes differ I guess...
 
I think Skipbeat and Kare kano are the only two shoujos that I actually liked.
 
@BeyondSora K?
@BeyondSora Your username reminds me that I still need to finish the Sora route of Ever17 :)
 
And if anyone's curious to see whole image of my current AV:
 
dang the seiyu who voices Kuroyukihime is a lot prettier than expected.
 
7:29 AM
@Rapptz Still need to watch that one.
@CatPlusPlus That's like the least representative anime ever.
 
nice tv tokyo watermark
 
@StackedCrooked Ever17 :-) It's the second galgame I played
 
Accel World was an unexpected good show.
 
7:31 AM
K is this anime. link
 
Oh shit.
> Birthday: Jan 13, 1993
 
Younger than all of us, lol...
 
my birthday is Jan 7 (not 1993)
 
Grats.
 
Thank you.
Do I get a prize?
 
7:34 AM
My birthday is noon.
 
Oh hey, I just noticed that it's @sehe's birthday. Happy B-day.
 
@Rapptz who is this?
 
Fuck why does my raunchy anime thing have 3 stars?
 
She is voice actor 1/19445 acording to the URL.
 
the seiyuu of @Mysticial 's past gravatar
 
7:36 AM
@Mysticial just made it 4 stars :)
 
@Mysticial Where?
 
^^ And that's the one before it.
 
@Mysticial That one had a nice musical opening :) 光の旋律
 
ya Accel World is a prtty cool show, I still dun like how the main guy is way too much of a sissy... even by the end he s still like that...
@Mysticial wasn't this in 2009 or something? I remember I watched it when I was in high school.
 
@StackedCrooked One hilarious thing about Sora no Woto, is that the ED is totally out of context in a lot of the latter episodes.
You have all this kana/kuru-shimi, and then you have this happy-go-lucky ED theme.
And there's no transition.
 
7:39 AM
@Mysticial oh wow, so this is where this song came from...
I have this song on my phone for the past 2 years, but never knew which show it's from..
 
ahaha
catchy isn't it?
 
yeah :) though the only lyrics I can recognize are love, friendship in the beginning...
 
Isn't the first phrase just Engrish?
 
@BeyondSora Which one?
 
@Mysticial isn't it aijo yojo?
:StackedCrooked sora no woto ending
 
7:42 AM
@BeyondSora I don't have my Anime box in front of me to pull up an episode to see the lyrics.
But I always thought it was something on the lines of "I joy, you joy". Or something like that.
But now that you mention it, that first "ai" would easily be "love".
 
lolz yeah
so according to youtube, you actually spell it like aijou yuujou :-p
 
I'm listening to it right now...
 
me 2 :-)
 
It disturbs me that I know so many of the words, but I can't make shit sense of any of it.
 
This is a pretty nice adaptation.
 
7:45 AM
@StackedCrooked Sounds pretty good.
I wish I had the ear to instrumentalize something.
 
@Mysticial Me too. When it comes music I don't think I have much talent. But I can really appreciate good music. I wonder if that counts as a musical talent :D
@FredOverflow Given an interesting enough job proposal I would go there as well.
 
Like, I've been trying to instrumentalize the piano part of the long version for this song. But I can't dictate through complicated chords.
Dammit, why can't I find the long version on Youtube...
Oh here it is:
 
@Mysticial damn such a good song
cant believe i never heard it b4... or maybe i forgot...
 
They never released the instrumental version for it.
Kinda annoys me, because the piano part is really nice.
And it's harder to dictate through the voice.
 
7:53 AM
Write a software program that deduces it :)
I should be possible I think.
 
@StackedCrooked I can totally imagine myself running FFTs over the sound to filter out the voice and anything that isn't "piano".
 
If the human can do it, then so can the computer.
 
That's something my Uncle can probably do since it's in his relative area.
 
@ScottW Hey labrador :D
Minimalism piano?
 
etai nani?
 
7:55 AM
@ScottW Ah, you were the one that knew about Spencer Krug right?
I'm still at 50% of Mysticial's song.
@ScottW +1
 
@StackedCrooked I have the first 8 measures of that song written out in midi. But then the complicated chords come in and I can't hear through that.
 
All this talk about anime soundtracks reminds me of Cowboy Bebop.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I saw my first episodes of Cowboy Bebop in 2000.
I could only download a little bit of anime each month due to a 10 GB limitation of the ISP. It was torture.
 
The idolm@aster has a lot of music in it. The one I linked to is one of my two favorites.
But the show is shit, so most of that music goes unheard.
 
@Mysticial It's the first time I hear it (Yakusoku). It's really nice.
 
7:59 AM
Also, I really need to watch Ergo Proxy.
 
@StackedCrooked She's got a really good voice.
Almost all the idolm@aster songs on my list are from that singer.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I started watching it a few years ago, and lost my interest after a few episodes.. Perhaps my bad, I'm not sure...
 
@StackedCrooked I heard it's a mindfuck.
 
@ScottW Ok, minimalistic piano is playing now :D
@EtiennedeMartel I don't remember anything about it.
 
I also need to watch Neon Genesis Evangelion. And maybe finish Samurai Champloo and Bakemonogatari. So much stuff on my backlog.
 
8:01 AM
@StackedCrooked If you like that one, you might like this one as well:
@EtiennedeMartel Bakemonogatari is okay. The sequel is shit.
 
I found a guitar tab of Hikari No Senritsu :-)
 
@ScottW It's sleek.
 
@Mysticial I watched like the two first "arcs" or something. I liked the fast editing and fucked up dialogues.
 
Actually, this is the first time I've ever used the word "sleek" and I'm not sure if it's appropriate in this context.
 
@EtiennedeMartel If you can get all the way to the Yui Horie cat arc, there's one ridiculous scene that took the subbers almost a week to do.
 
8:04 AM
@EtiennedeMartel And pretty people.
 
@Mysticial anime-wise, I agree. But novels, I like the book about the vampire girl the most :)
 
Speaking of which, I bet the cat is like: "Fuck you all you tards and your silly cartoons". :)
 
• (of a person) having a wealthy and well-groomed appearance: his sleek and elegant sisters.
• (of an object) having an elegant, streamlined shape or design: his sleek black car slid through the traffic.
Sounds good.
 
3am, time for bed
Good night, guys :-)
 
@BeyondSora It's 9 AM here...
 
8:06 AM
I like deep, multi-layered stuff that I can mind wank on. That, and cheesy romance. Don't judge me.
 
@StackedCrooked u must be in europe?
 
@BeyondSora Yep, and I still need to sleep as well :D
 
@StackedCrooked haha, :-p good dream then.
 
@ScottW Ah, yes! I probably encountered the word in phone reviews.
@BeyondSora You too.
 
@BeyondSora night
Oh here's that scene that took the subbers a week to sub:
 
8:07 AM
Sword Art Online has become a lot more interesting the last few episodes.
 
Skip the first 15 seconds of it.
@StackedCrooked yep...
 
@Mysticial It's a memorable scene :D
What, they took two weeks for that!?
 
More like, they didn't know how to handle it.
 
They should have just asked a native Japanese person :P
Ah, I see.
 
I don't think it was supposed to make sense either way.
 
8:10 AM
Japanese humor can be a little odd at times.
 
At least you don't sneeze whenever someone mentions your name.
That's gotta be rough.
 
anna ni issho datta no ni (Gundam) has been covered by the London Symphony Orchestra. I think I still prefer the original ♥
 
It took me until now to see that they are dolls.
 
When I noticed I felt really bad for her
 
8:19 AM
If only you had been there..
:D
@Mysticial She has a peculiar voice. I kind of like it.
> In de Patotterij in Waasmunster is gisteravond een 16-jarige fietser levensgevaarlijk gewond geraakt toen hij werd aangereden door een wagen. Dat meldt de lokale politie.
 
16-year old in critical situation after being run over?
 
Impressive.
Or did you use Google Translate :D
 
Na, the two key elements I picked were 'levensgevaarlijk' and 'aangereden door een wagen'.
 
Where are you from?
 
Gisteravond is the day before yesteray I think.
Oh wait, yesterday evening?
 
8:30 AM
Gisteravond means yesterday evening.
Exactly.
You have good language skills it seems.
 
@StackedCrooked What's that translate to?
 
@StackedCrooked France, but I know enough German to make sense of some words. I also roughly know the pronunciation of Flemish and Dutch, because sometimes the words sound similar enough even though they might not look alike.
 
@Mysticial It's from the Belgian newssite. It says: "In Patotterij (street) in Waasmunster (town) a 16-year old person riding his/her bicycle was critically wounded when hit by a car. So reports the local police."
 
@StackedCrooked Sounds like an everyday occurrence in some countries...
 
It is. I somehow felt compelled to share it.
The article continues with: The person was hit by a jeep and has been transferred to the hospital. The driver had not consumed any alcohol.
@ScottW IIRC you know some Dutch.. But I don't remember how come.
What motivated you to learn it? Did you stay here for a long period?
Btw, the word "dutch" appears some 359000 times on the chat.stackoverflow.com domain, according to Google.
 
8:41 AM
What about the word, "fuck"?
 
"american" only appears 24.800 times.
fuck: 148.000
merkin: 1.940
But "dutch" is 359.000 times!
Boy do we like to mention of background!
 
That can't be right. There's no way any word can beat "fuck" other than sentence particles.
 
dutch
 
fuck
 
bavarian
bavarian: 76
 
8:50 AM
I found how to do it and wrote this tut :D bloggerplugnplay.blogspot.in/2012/11/…
 
That's the way.
^ Good memories!
 

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