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__m128i first = _mm_loadu_si128((__m128i *)arr1);
__m128i second = _mm_loadu_si128((__m128i *)arr2);
_mm_add_epi32(first, second);// this does not seem to work for unaligned values?
 
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@ProblemSlover "hardcore stuff", or "stuff for hardcore lunatics"?
04:05
Hardcore lunatic as opposite to ... a softcore lunatic?
in Android, 15 hours ago, by TelKitty
Just between you & me (and the whole internet), jogging while dancing like a manic at dusk on own private farm makes me tremendously happy. All the adrenaline ... and the thrill of acting like a lunatic while nobody can see is very satisfying.
@JerryCoffin kill me but this stuff i would love to do if i were in my student ages when i had bunch of free time.. which i wasted on video gaming instead so makes me feel quite regretful about time!
04:38
Playing video games is much preferable to web development in C.
 
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@ProblemSlover The word "security" appears zero times in the article.
 
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09:38
I got a fun multithreading oddity on Windows. So one thread does while (true) {std::scoped_lock lk(m);//something} and another thread has set_value(auto a) {std::scoped_lock lk(m);A=a;}. So the fun part here is that "set value" function seems to never, ever get thread quanta. The while(true) loop always, seems to lock/unlock the damn lock.
And writing something more complex seems sad.
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That sucks, but I'm drawn to the probably useless lk identifiers making me think of a macro to make with (lk) { //something } work.
shedding all the bikes
Remember Java's synchronized blocks?
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I never used them, I only looked at them for comparison with other ways.
I used Python's with open("file") as f: quite a bit. I think that also works for mutexes.
10:15
@nwp When you use Python's òpen("file") as f:` what does calling the read(12) method like this do?
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It reads up to 12 characters? This sounds like a trick question.
@nwp hmm, not a trick question. I thought may be it would read 12 bytes.
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I think it defaults to text mode where it reads characters. open("file", "rb") should read bytes.
Isn't rb default?
10:30
@nwp that's very useful to know.
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Aaaaah why does this not compile?
@nwp you got me there. I have zero experience with c++.
In fact c++ reads like hieroglyphics to me.
I'm trying to understand a C++ code base and despite my background in fellow c family languages it looks completely foreign to me.
And what's with c++ projects on github having so many files?
11:08
What is more idiomatic, const int or int const?
@fredoverflow east const and west const is gang war
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It's like tabs vs spaces. People don't agree. There are some cool videos about the topic.
And sadly it's not a formatting option in clang-format or clang-tidy.
Used to be east const, until this happened const int* const
11:37
I guess I'm a west const guy:
return if (underlying is PointerType) {
    underlying.declaration("const$result")
} else {
    "const $underlying$result" // change to "$underlying const$result" for east const
}
Anyway, I'm glad converting types to C declarations (mainly for type error messages) finally works:
val callback = PointerType(FunctionType.binary(SignedIntType, SignedIntType, SignedIntType))
assertEquals("int(*(int(*)(int,int)))(int,int)", FunctionType.unary(callback, callback).toString())
I find East coast more idiomatic.
I could choose between west const and east const in the error messages based on what the programmer actually uses in the source code.
Does a struct in c++ work the same as a struct in C#?
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It doesn't.
struct and class are almost the same in C++.
They merely differ in visibility defaults.
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12:23
If you want serious answers about C++ consider using the Q&A room.
@nwp Whaat? I thought this was the main C++ chat room?
The lounge is casual, not serious.
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It's a lounge to recover from the mental trauma caused by C++ and for hanging out. The other one is for C++ Q&A.
Here is busier so I'll try.
@nwp I can imagine. I thought JavaScript code does a lot of magic, but wow C++ might be worse.
My question is:
12:26
C# classes have reference semantics, C# structs have value semantics. C++ has no such distinction. C++ classes and C++ structs both have value semantics. If you need reference semantics, use (smart) pointers.
What is the difference between a struct and an object since both are named containers for values, and both need to be instantiated?
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That is really a question for the other room.
I don't understand the question. You can have struct objects.
@fredoverflow Okay, thanks. What do you mean reference semantics.
@fredoverflow Let me rephrase it:
12:29
What is the difference between instantiating a struct and instantiating a class since both instances are named containers for values, and both instances need to be instantiated?
@MyWrathAcademia In C++? There is no difference regarding instantiation.
Members and base classes are constructed as private by default in classes, whereas they are public by default in structs.
@fredoverflow I just watched your video. What a great little introduction to C++. Do you make videos like this that get someone already familiar with Java and C Sharp to learn C++ quickly? It may be more effective than reading one of those huge C++ books.
By the way, you're German, yes? You have a similar accent to my friend.
@TelKitty Thanks. So except for those differences, a struct is exactly the same as a class?
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12:55
It's better to think of the struct keyword as making a class. You cannot distinguish structs from classes because they are the same thing. That class exists at all is a historic error.
@nwp great. I'll keep that in mind.
I'll think of the struct keyword as an alias for the class keyword.
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Which is not quite correct because of the default visibility.
You can think of struct as an alias for class { public:. Except you have to fit the name in there and inheritance.
@nwp Okay. I noticed that in C Sharp unless I inherit from an instance of the same struct I have to initialize any fields and properties in the constructor. Is this the same in C++?
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Kinda. You have to initialize things before you read from them, but it's not enforced by the language. You just get more or less screwed if you forget.
13:58
@nwp Thanks, but what I mean is even when I am not reading from an instance field or accessing it via an instance property, in C Sharp I still need to initialize all fields because all fields and properties in a C Sharp struct must be fully assigned before control is returned to the caller of the struct's constructor.
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There is no such rule in C++.
Okay, visual studio is giving me an error with that warning.
user7659542
Network interface cards with a SATA interface, does such a thing exist?
what do mean, like a NIC connected via SATA to cpu or like Ethernet over SATA? I don't remember seeing either
user7659542
@PeterT NIC connected via SATA to CPU
user7659542
14:08
or is SATA really excusively used for SSD/HDD?
user7659542
if yes, won't be long before SATA becomes obsolete
I think it has a certain protocol for storage, otherwise M.2 wouldn't have bothered including additional PCIe lanes
user7659542
why not just use PCI(e) for everything?
user7659542
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High-end SSDs had been made using the PCI Express bus before NVMe...
user7659542
I therefor conclude PCIe is better than SATA, as PCI is for high-end.
user7659542
Yet, most SSD's nowadays still use SATA for some reason.
SATA just wasn't made for SSDs, it's just stuck in an antiquated mindset
most? SSDs, not really
Maybe like 5 years ago and all those bought to retrofit old PCs
user7659542
@PeterT you re right, they mostly seem to use NVME. Thought it was still SATA but with a different/updated connector.
15:08
@MyWrathAcademia When it comes to possible topics, I could probably make dozens of "C++ for Java programmers" videos, but so far I've stopped at 3, they simply don't get a lot of views/feedback.
@MyWrathAcademia What error/warning exactly?
@fredoverflow Aaah, I see. That's too bad. At least you did make three.
@fredoverflow I'm not sure how familiar you are with C Sharp, but here goes:
@fredoverflow took a screenshot of the error:
15:41
Yeah, C# structs are weird. You need to explicitly assign a value to each field (or auto-property) in any constructor.
You can't just leave them to their default values, like you can with classes.
15:57
@MyWrathAcademia line 2653? wow
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> And what's with c++ projects on github having so many files?
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@fredoverflow Oh man, just noticed that.
@nwp I guess putting everything in the same file solves that problem.
 
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23:51
I Changed the lyric to this song, now it sings like this:
Look at this strange photograph
Every time I do it makes me laugh
How did our eyes get so red?
Since then we are getting very fat
This is where I blew up
I think the present owner fixed it up
I never knew we ever went without
The second floor is hard for sneakin' out

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